mini 2013: the chorus of i'll call b4 i cum mafia (all done)

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we want to vote you for president :]

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unless Morality has night action shenanigans he's not sharing then scum didn't submit a kill.

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Starting to suspect it's just Ruby

Maybe we should nl and see what happens

this would actually be entertaining


let's nolynch and get ruby to track Morality or Koki tonight?

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Morality is obv town

dats wat I'm getting at

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Azurit
Ruby Red
LuckyOtter


If we lynch from bottom to top is there a world in which we don't win?

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tempted to lynch ruby first here

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why would I go to the bottom? :/

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Azurit
Ruby Red
LuckyOtter


If we lynch from bottom to top is there a world in which we don't win?

needs SIV in it as well. rawr.

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8v1
6v1
4v1
2v1

4 lynches left lol

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if we random lynch we have a 78% chance of winning???? looool

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no we don't nvm me I cant maths on 6 webbed fingers

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still yeah we'd better lynch LO today

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59.36% I think but I am not a counting pilot

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Tonally he sounds good but atm he's in survival mode and I think it's telling. He's like a sprinkler shooting diarrhoea in all directions and hoping it sticks to someone.

If he wants to realign his reads and post them without scumcases I'll gladly revisit them if he flips green but......

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uh sorry for the mental image and any connotations, you're not shit LO, it's just a very difficult position you're in and flailing the way you are is scumtelling

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Is there any scum role in normal games, that can't be tracked?

ninja

VOTE: Ruby

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o yay we summoned ruby

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happy scumday SIV!

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Agreed unless we have a literal cop (and even then we flip them to confirm their reads)

VOTE: Lucky it's good to be back~~

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ruby shld track thru the lynchpool

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that's what I said (just with way better spelling, grammar and articulation)

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Dunn I wanna be you when I grow up

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Designated path for lynches should be Otter—>Azurit—>Ruby—>SIV.

Scum should lose with that path.

following Mora lynch path basically just track within {UnaBombaH, Kokichi Oma} ig of the substantially townier players they're defs on a lower rung

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@worst sorry, I must've mixed you up with Not Mafia.

just reading ISOs and lol, I didn't parse how great this is

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lol ok, I love rereading ISOs and having crazy breakthroughs but... last mafia is indeed probably LO.
strongly suspect they're an encryptor actually, either way probability of a ninja encryptor seems really low

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the cheeky defences of Lucky from other scum d1 is pretty incriminating tho I stopped reading ISOs after that one

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Designated path for lynches should be Otter—>Azurit—>Ruby—>SIV.

Scum should lose with that path.

following Mora lynch path basically just track within {UnaBombaH, Kokichi Oma} ig of the substantially townier players they're defs on a lower rung

^^^^^^^^

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Don’t let potential ScumRuby coast this game

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she* btw

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great avatar dude

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so I Googled the song on d1 to find out what the hype was abt and now it keeps getting stuck in my head

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Koki...please please hammer LO...

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hopefully there won't be a tomorrow

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you're the last scum right?

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...are you trolling because that wouldn't be nice

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I'm sorry for your problematic win condition!!!

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nice NK baiting Kokichi <33
okay Mora why didn't you claim yday?

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so we're 1 day from MyLo and scum is confirmed in

{Ruby, Una, Mora}

nicee

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me so I don't have to deal with this tbh

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anyway ig we lynch ruby today for the inno then have Una and Mora battle it out tmrw

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o yea lol

VOTE: No Lynch

Ruby please track Una tonight

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I think Ruby’s just coasting on the claim. I say we get rid of the WIFOM now. We go to a no lynch scenario tomorrow if Ruby is a mislynch.

If Ruby is town that puts us into 4p MyLo with (most probably) one cleared town, one obvtown and two scumspects

if we nolynch and Ruby eats the NK as town, that puts us into 4v1 with two confirmed townies and one obvtown--and we have two lynches.

If we nolynch and Ruby doesn't eat the NK as town, we have a THIRD townclear but lose one. we enter 4v1 with two cleared townies and one obvtown. we lynch Ruby tomorrow to clear WIFOM then handle the dichotomy.

If we nolynch and Ruby is scum, we lynch her tomorrow and win.

P sure nolynch is like an 80% mechanical town win. Ruby should flip a coin between tracking you and tracking Una.

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btw Mora, why no claim yday?

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HAPPY SCUMDAY UNA

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huh almost. but it's showing as now to me.

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Yus no lynch imo

if morality strongly disagrees I may need convincing tbh

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You don't like my coinflip idea?

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exactly :3

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Dunn savage af (but also truuu)

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VOTE: no lunch

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I am not hungry

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yeah track UnaB

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VOTE: NO LUNCH WIRH EXTEMEE PREJUSICE

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Yup coin flip again :3

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If Unah or I die, you lynch Ruby BEFORE the other.

Making sure that is 100% clear.

Promise.

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you've seen scum!me
I broke my scumrange on page 3 LOL

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that's hammer

poor no lynch, worst neutral survivor ever

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VOTE: Ruby

result?

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either you shot X who Mora protected, you shot Mora, or Ruby shot Mora

not all that important, let's get Ruby's inno then lynch her. if she's scum we win, if she's town we lynch the last possible scum

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if she's scum we win, if she's town we lynch the last possible scum

..and that apparently being me? -_-

d=(´▽｀)=b
dw though ruby prolly flips red

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Is vigilante still town only?

eh town!Ruby wouldn't add a fakeclaim to a guilty, she's either scum or a tracker. also I'm softconftown by play so if Ruby does flip town you're goin' down.

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I'm down w waiting
if she's still unwell she'll be replaced otherwise we'll see

UNVOTE:

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tw I don't get your feelings on ruby slot? I feel like you should be townreading her just by meta.

I townleaned earlier but she's done nothing outside her scum meta unfortunately and later phases when I expect her to SMASH the mold of her scum meta, she was afk.

So there's no clearance there.

by like mechanically confirmed townies were down to either {Ruby(MM4), Una, tw}

I've been called obvtown by two players who know my meta insanely to the extent they can read me like an open book so I feel pretty comfortable calling myself softcleared here.

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Thank you so so much for taking the slot : (
If you're town this flip wins us the game fwiw


VOTE: mm4

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Yay one confirmed townie one obvtown and one scumbutt
what an exciting time to be alive : ]

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who do each of you think is the last scumbutt here

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huh. gimme a sec.

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oh my bad. mechanical derp.
VOTE: UnaBombaH has to be the last scum rereading isn't required

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clearly don't play enough normals. this is my first game post rule change for some reason I was thinking mafia vigilantes could be a thing now.

I feel stupid considering I towncleared a vig by rolecopping them in 2003 zzzz

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anyway ruby red and Mora are players who have read me like a book before. if you have any qualms or concerns here let me know Dunn.

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also ftr since the scum encryption theory was literally based on a slip we thought LuckyOtter made we very well could have had a mafia ninja. azurit was the wrong kill to make last night.

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scum vig is a thing
it's just not considered normal

what do you think I'm above?

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we can talk about that post-game it's pretty clear you didn't come up with the idea of NKing Dunn and trying to weave the ninja!zurit theory, which was my #1 paranoia coming into today.

quick self meta moment in case Dunn wants any extra links or info.

the last time I tried to bus in front of Ruby's main, she called the scumteam d1 and called out ALL of our theatre resulting in a perfect scum loss. I do not have the range to push the performer wagon the way I pushed it as scum.


this kinda feels obvious to me at this juncture and all of my experience with Dunn has him pegged as a highly competent town player so I'm just gonna chill unless he wants to talk more.

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what do you think I'm above?

Firstly a duck.
Secondly scum.

It's actually funny being at the opposite sides of the table for the first time (I think?).
A situation where you absolutely know that I know, but you have to pretend that you don't, because from your forced PoV, I shouldn't.
Agree?

this is indeed the first time we've been anything but TvT :>

you've actually played this really smart considering the skill level of the town in general. I understand your towngame is generally stronger than your scumgame? so sticking to the sidelines while the town strung together a "probable" mechanical win was a very good call.

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oh? my experiences with town you have actually been pretty good. like your reads are solid most of the time and when they aren't you play to gamestate well (baiting that nk off a spewed JK in that one newbie was a stroke of genius).

remind me to talk about that post-game as well. <~<

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it's 6.30pm here and I'll probably crash earlyish tonight. if you wanna talk through anything let me know when suits.

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Now while you claim that you would never bus performer the way you did

no no I am literally incapable of smoothly bussing
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=76359
this is what happened the last time I tried to bus

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VOTE: UnaBombaH we keep rolling town together so gambler's fallacy dictates that this logically MUST be scum

also very weird limited access for the next couple of days, I'll try my best though!

LMFAO FIRST POST OF TBE GAME

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minor error in the vc - Una is venusaur's ass not a whole venusaur

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VENUSAUR'S ASS, MASTER OF SIN

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what a moment to pagetop

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hey Dunn.... hope you're having a good day man.....
just LMK when you have time for us. no hard feelings no damage done

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the other alternative is morality targeted ruby while signalling that scum!Una had no option but killing Ruby

which is mechanically brilliant bodyguard play

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basically save it for post-game but I'd bet a beer/coffee that he wasn't the nk target there

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Wow shit didn't even think to double check that

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I mean in {Azurit, tw, Una, Mora, Dunn} with townflipped Ruby the optimal lynch order is probably

Una=>{TW Vs. Mora}

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now that I'm thinking about it there was no option other than Mora

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the n4(?) no kill p much had scum at like 90% in {Una, Mora} actually

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will you be around for a bit Dunn? Might actually NKA the lead up to LyLo

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d4 players in terms of lynchability

Dunnstral

~ conftown via normal rules

Azurit

~ softclear via tracker inno
Morality
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UnaBombaH
Ruby/MM4 ~ townflip needed for win

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hit submit too soon zzz

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shooting ruby wasn't an option for scum!una tho

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honestly

NKAing against me being scum is fucking with me because I just would not have brought you to lylo

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d4 players in terms of lynchability

Dunnstral

~ conftown via normal rules

Azurit

~ softclear via tracker inno
Morality ~ probtown, turns out TPR, pushing good lynches, etc.
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UnaBombaH ~ v/la + lurked thru 2 scum lynches
Ruby/MM4 ~ townflip needed before lylo. ruby godtown and mm4 goodtown but ruby has been sick which made her midgame consistent with lurky scum meta >:C



firstly: nolynch was the correct decision for the dice roll

option 1: optimal scum!una play from d4 onwards

d4 : nolynch
n4 : shoot mora
d5 : mora flips after asking us to promise to lynch ruby. rubyflip gives us softclear on azurit. powerlynch ruby for the azurit clear hype
n5 : shoot dunn
d6 : points out that assumption there's a mafia encryptor was based on what we interpreted as an incorrect slip from LuckyOtter, in 3p LyLo with no townclears

option 2: ok scumplay

d4 : nolynch
n4 : shoot mora
d5 : mora flips after asking us to promise to lynch ruby. rubyflip gives us softclear on azurit. powerlynch ruby for the azurit clear hype.
n5 : shoot softcleared townie over mechanical conftown ???
d6 : 3p lylo with one cleared townie, tw v una deathtunnel

optimal scum!tw play from d4 onwards

d4 : nolynch
n4 : shoot ruby
d5 : azurit towncleared by ruby flip, dunn conftown by normal rules, {tw,mora} mutual TR = Una lynch
scum!tw then:
n5 : shoots dunn
d6 : points out that assumption there's a mafia encryptor was based on what we interpreted as an incorrect slip from LuckyOtter, in 3p LyLo with no townclears. una and i have been hanging in schat a bit lately and generally get along really well + low key, azurit's posting made us all want to lynch her. so tbqh i'd softpocket una.

OR

d4 : nolynch
n4 : shoot Mora
d5 : powerlynch Ruby for the Azurit clear
n5 : shoot Dunn
d6 : points out that assumption there's a mafia encryptor was based on what we interpreted as an incorrect slip from LuckyOtter, in 3p LyLo with no townclears. una and i have been hanging in schat a bit lately and generally get along really well + low key, azurit's posting made us all want to lynch her. so tbqh i'd softpocket una.


i feel like i would have gone with the first option here, as i said the last time i scummed against ruby red's main she absolutely fucking thrashed me

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i feel like i'm at risk of giving away a lot of self meta here lel. i wouldn't bring you into 3p lylo dunn. if a self meta case will help or if there's anything else you want to jam about let me know.

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i might have shot you n4 tbqh, at this point it's just semantics

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that fakeslip was so bad I'm almost offended on dunn's behalf

Actually fuck it Una, I wanna hear your selfmeta case. for post-game if nothing else.

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YO DUNN HIGH FIVE!!

thank you heaps for modding schadd_ and well played everyone, this game was fantastic. and so so close

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sorry ;n;

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these threads are entertaining to read

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performer calling for my death repeatedly both makes me happy and hurts my feelings

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he doesn't sound like vonflare tbh i'd be impressed

can't wait to read vensaur's ass talking to itself o.o

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I was just saying in schat last night how impressed I was with your reads here profii :']

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I think d1 he was just too hard to read, whereas you had that iconic aroma of scumminess. guiltying him was definitely a good call tbqh.

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Woah Una you got intense by the end there!

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I bet that's what Vonflare would say if he were...... PERFORMING
that's right I called u out!!