NY 213 - Game Over!

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I was getting pushed for people thinking I was fake claiming mason, but GROB actually did fake claim mason.

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I think Tex was actually defending me, yet still calling me not a mason there, Gamma.

I think that makes Tex more town for me.

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Lalendra, I didn’t have a single post in between. You just jumped from one point to another. It’s not that there wasn’t a reaction, i just wasn’t around

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Also the Hopkirk claim was underwhelming, I'm glad he claimed but I was already townreading him so I was hoping it would be some other slot that would give me more info. I guess at least now I don't have to worry about wavering on that slot later.

Yet you all forced the second mason to claim. There was literally no reason for it.

It would have EASILY been confirmed in a day or two. Never do that again.

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Lalendra is very mislynchable. I think I’d rather let her live a day or so.

I think today need some to be GROB vs Penguin.

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Also the Hopkirk claim was underwhelming, I'm glad he claimed but I was already townreading him so I was hoping it would be some other slot that would give me more info. I guess at least now I don't have to worry about wavering on that slot later.

Yet you all forced the second mason to claim. There was literally no reason for it.

It would have EASILY been confirmed in a day or two. Never do that again.

We have yet to see whether it's a good or bad thing for town.

It’s a bad thing. The second mason claim coming out Day 3 or day 4 would have been 300% better than here.

It’s literally a mason claim. Zero reason to push it further regardless of anything. It’ll always settle itself out.

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Lalendra, I didn’t have a single post in between. You just jumped from one point to another. It’s not that there wasn’t a reaction, i just wasn’t around

And you not being around is why I changed my SR on you.

Pretty sure I literally stated I’d be at work.

I wasn’t around like all of Day 1.

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Hi

Vote GROB or Penguin, please. Don’t fall for the MYLO trap.

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Penguin has been on my wagon, KK’s wagon, mylo’s wagon, and now on GROB after I’ve been pushing that as an option.

He wasn’t on JJD, however. Just noting this down.

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I think I prefer GROB to Penguin, though. All of Penguin’s counter points make sense to me, but it’s not out of his scum range.

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Vote GROB or Penguin, please. Don’t fall for the MYLO trap.

lol we can't even get a wagon going

To be fair, people were so stuck up on me until a couple of hours ago.

Now I’m confirmed conf town, so :shrug:

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G-Rob

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confirmed conf town

I was already conf town before. Now I’m confirmed conf town.

Also, Wheme is scum, but he’s not the head scum.

I want to cut off the head today, and I believe it’s G-Rob.

Which, checking ISO’s, links Wheme and Lalendra somewhat together, especially with lalendra’s unvoting fiasco, but I don’t want to put too much stock into pre flips.

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@JJD/KK - I guess I should have pointed it out earlier, but look what happened Day 1 when Performer called me out. I engaged with him pretty feisty like, scum read him, and through the firey 1v1 I ended up town reading him. I did the same with you two. Wasn’t necessarily flip flopping, haha.

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actually I think that's my problem with some players in this game

too many people care about their own appearance and firmly defending themselves as pro-town rather than trying to solve this game and convincing others through good content

isn't it normal to be scumread?

This is something I say often when I’m scum and town is tearing themselves apart, or something along those lines.

I’ve said it a couple times as town, but when you’re scum, you really really see it, and you sound intelligent saying this kind of thing.

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Mason partner doesn't claim today

There's no reason why we have to go after flavor leaf today, if he were lying we'd figure it out eventually and he wouldn't get away

Thos something to look back at if GRob flips scum.

I 100% agree with what Dunn said. Dunn is lock town from my perspective.

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VOTE: Wheme

I’ll join on PP if need be.

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I feel the fact that Wheme isn’t getting stacked points towards him being scum.

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The fact that Wheme, Lalendra, and Mylo are on PP also points towards PP town. They’re either scum joining on, or town that is being used a scum sheep votes for scum.

Wheme likely has the worst ISO in this game, to be honest. We had Wave, who I think is town, alongside the masons and Penguin being the only ones on the Wheme wagon initially when PP was picking up steam.

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Literally I’m town reading the entirety of the Wheme wagon minus Tehbrawl, but they’re neutral.

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@texcat - I’m the one who basically stated the GEOB vs Penguin thing, then I moved to Wheme first, though. So I’m not too worried about scum controlling this game.

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Honestly, I’m staying on Wheme no matter what the claim is.

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If it’s a PR claim, I’m going to see it as a fake claim, if it’s a VT claim, I’m going to see it as either a fake claim or the correct move for the day because worst case scenario we lose a VT who has debatably the worst ISO sin the game.

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I literally had established town read on everyone on the wagon right now besides Lalendra, Penguin/GROB have their scummy moments, but both can be seen in a town light, so I’m willing to push past.

TehBrawl backing off looks like scum seeing if his partner could potentially get out of this with a good fake claim.

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Like, waiting for a claim is just going to cause issues and get us a potential no lynch, which is absolutely terrible after this day phase with the mason claims.

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Along with a couple other claims

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Ausuka, Pine, Texcat, Dunn, Android need to switch their votes to a non vanity. None of those are happening this day phase.

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@Ausuka - TehBrawl guy seems to be subtly protecting while projecting a scum read on a Wheme. Wheme flipping scum lends towards TehBrawl scum pretty hard. You can get your lynch tomorrow.

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@Ausuka - TehBrawl guy seems to be subtly protecting while projecting a scum read on a Wheme. Wheme flipping scum lends towards TehBrawl scum pretty hard. You can get your lynch tomorrow.

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Heads up: I don't have internet ATM because of Frontier shenaniganry. I can mobile post so I'm still here but it'll be pretty stilted. Will address a18 hopefully tonight on my PC.

Seemssomeone got speedhammered with no claim recently in mini2010, and that was town on town, so I've got good reason to be wary on it.

This isn’t speed hammer. It’s been 13 days coming down to this. We have 1 day left...

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But I understand why scum you would want to use that as a reason to stay off of Wheme here.

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Dude, I'm here, and I said I wanted to lynch him, chill out. I can just revote him after the claim or near deadline if he doesn't.

That’s precisely why I am scum reading you, tbh.

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Someone just hammer. Literally no claim should save him. Ever. We’re 1 day away, and i will hard fight the Penguin lynch right now

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Mylo, just hammer. I’ll defend your hammer tomorrow.

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His claim literally is meaningless. We’ll find out when he flips.

He claims the strongest role ever, I’m still wanting him lynched, and he should still be lynched.

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UNVOTE: wheme

This vote's coming back tonight but I'll give you a few hours time.

This is also not town.


If we’re switching wagons after a claim, which no matter what the claim is, this goes.

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I'm in full agreement that we should lynch regardless of the claim, but if he's got a night action, it's important to hear what he did with it, especially if it's investigative.

Pushing for a lynch pre-claim gives us absolutely nothing.

I’m holding you to this.

Even if he is investigative, he is to be lynched.

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However, i likely won’t believe an investigative role with masons and an ic

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Aight. Hammer it.

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Do not counter claim this if there is a protective out there.

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Do not counter claim this if there is a protective out there.

Can’t emphasize this enough. Do not counter claim this.

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I thought scum wouldnt kill the IC N1 because of protective and thought that they wouldnt kill creature cause hes not doing anything so targeted hopkirk

Shows he had some knowledge of the game which leans scum anyways since his ISO wouldnt suggest he knew anything.

I’ve never claimed masons with neighbors before either.

I’ve had Gamma claim masons with me in a neighborhood, and then I outed it as false.

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I’m the mason, though. I’ll take that chance.

It’s a scummy claim because it will out other protective roles with it fake.

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I think it’s scummy and i town read the majority of the wagon.

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But Teh’s hella scum

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I’d rather just stick with Wheme. We only have 9 hours. It’s not happening.

This is EXACTLY why I didn’t want to wait for claim. Easy fake claim

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The worst case scenario for them was a protective would counter claim, and they’d out a protective.

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It’s No Lynch or Wheme. I’m fighting any other lynch.

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You have 3 confirmed town on Wheme and he’s getting hard wagon stalled.

This is scum.

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Remember who is stalling back and forth.

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Good stuff, Creature.

Wheme’s gotta go, though.

Especially now that there’s four PR/3 with a potentially dangerous WIFOM.

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Wheme’s only pushed me as scum like that when he’s scum :shrug:

I’ve thought this all game, i just didn’t have the steam or actual evidence to prove it.

Now it’s speaking for itself with the fact that 3 conf town’s are on it, and it’s still being stalled. Even before the doc claim.

Strong fake claim, though.

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would be disappointing to have posted the entire scumteam on the thread, find out we mislynched the doc and afterwards town completely ignore me

Creature, i won’t ignore it

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tbh Wheme and PP should like be cleared based on scum having dominance

u havent been here. Wheme has been the wagon w/ the most resistance. It's been TOUGH getting these 11 votes on there.

Seems like it happened pretty fast

It didn’t...it took a lot of coaxing. The PP one happened fast

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He’s already posted reads for the most part in his ISO. We can look stuff up later.

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But i don’t mind waiting for reads, i just think he’s done decent at spreading it already

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Way to lynch me on my birthday guys

Holy hot damn, this AtE almost got me to unvote. I’m so sorry.

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creature just hammer it's scum. I pre-absolve you of any blame if it flips green.

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One of my posts in the mason thread.

That’s a bold move if GROB is scum. Hmm. Actually...GROB as scum would get the ammunition to kill me off in the night, and then he’d get conf town’d until he gets in a 1v1 with you.

Fuck. Good play, ScumGrob.

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And then, I died in the night, haha.