no deadlines mafia [game over]

Gamma Emerald · Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:38 am

In post 2264, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2261, mastina wrote:
In post 2253, Kokichi Oma wrote:Has mastina always been in this game lol
If I were, I wouldn't have a need to read!

I also wouldn't be able to entertain you with stories.
Fun fact.
I considered replacing into this game much earlier.
Then I saw that the slot up for replacement was Xtoxm and went "fuck no, that's a scum slot, I've dealt with enough scum role PM shit".
VOTE: Xtoxm.
Welp, thank God, I can finally say this. I’m really glad you and sheep are town in this game. Yep, that’s why I was so certain sheep is town here.

What?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:05 am

Oh, that schadd game, okay
I guess I can follow that.
VOTE: Xtoxm

Gamma Emerald · Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:49 am

Yes.
I'm more sheeping the sheep read, and Xtoxm is also a suspect. Reminder that I'm in a very Gamma Vs. The World mindset here, I don't really give a fuck about associatives between my suspects.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:32 am

In post 2320, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:So, the whole masonry thing makes sense now. Varsoon was tr me and PB and unsure about Xtoxm and when that changed he suddenly thought it was a masonry.

So wouldn’t that make Flavor town?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:36 am

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:06 am

In post 2356, Wisdom wrote:or good play if you are scum

In post 2357, singletonking wrote:???

yeah no Wisdom has a point? What's confusing singleton?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:11 am

In post 2376, Purrcocet wrote:
In post 2372, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: saudade

i dislike an ausuka lynch because she has villagery content and saudade because he's just a null lurker but is in everyones poe anyway shrug

l-2

This is the vote that i want u to remeber when saudade flips town
ok? ok

agreed, the poe part is a super cop out

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:14 am

In post 2386, Xtoxm wrote:her approach to my slot only ever comes from scum here
she knows me well enough that theres 0 chance she believes the angles shes pushing

And you've been off the site for over a decade?
No, your meta expectancy is non-existent. I'd expect most people to be working from a blank slate with you, even having played with you before.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:37 am

Yeah, well I think it's not the best lynch for today anyway if she is scum.
And I've been in and out too and had meta shifts each time. I'm sure this is affirmable.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:42 am

In post 2410, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2409, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah, well I think it's not the best lynch for today anyway if she is scum.
And I've been in and out too and had meta shifts each time. I'm sure this is affirmable.
Why

I just feel like it's too much work to get a mastina lynch rn. You've seen how much I've been stonewalled when I've tried to lynch the slot.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:43 am

In post 2411, Xtoxm wrote:anyway, idrc
im not voting her to get her lynched, im voting her to say that i spent the game voting her and calling her confscum while being ignored

So you don't care about getting a scum lynch, you care about voteparking on scum
this feels like scum who wants VCA points
VOTE: Xtoxm

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:46 am

And you are a scumfuck.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:50 pm

In post 2425, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2413, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2411, Xtoxm wrote:anyway, idrc
im not voting her to get her lynched, im voting her to say that i spent the game voting her and calling her confscum while being ignored
So you don't care about getting a scum lynch, you care about voteparking on scum
this feels like scum who wants VCA points
VOTE: Xtoxm
It’s not VCA points. Mastina’s scum.

If mastina is scum, it actually makes my reasoning stronger. Nice try.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:02 pm

I checked where Dannflor replaces in and I would like to ask:
@Dannflor, what do you make of Nancy townreading two of your scumreads so vehemently?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:28 pm

In post 2666, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2664, Gamma Emerald wrote:I checked where Dannflor replaces in and I would like to ask:
@Dannflor, what do you make of Nancy townreading two of your scumreads so vehemently?
What kind of question is that?

One that determines the soundness of his reads, as I want to know whether he’s factored that in.
I’m not trying to imply you’re scum here, I’m trying to promote thought.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:29 pm

In post 2668, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2666, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2664, Gamma Emerald wrote:I checked where Dannflor replaces in and I would like to ask:
@Dannflor, what do you make of Nancy townreading two of your scumreads so vehemently?
What kind of question is that?
And that is a blatant mischaracterization, Gamma. I was only hard defending sheep.

VOTE: Gamma

Reeeeaaaaally, I’m pretty sure you called mastina town too. I noticed on this page you aren’t doing that so what changed that read?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:31 pm

btw for wall quoting you can just remove what you’re not replying to

Gamma Emerald · Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:52 pm

some people are on mobile

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:30 am

w/e, point is made

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:17 am

In post 2702, Dannflor wrote:
In post 2664, Gamma Emerald wrote:I checked where Dannflor replaces in and I would like to ask:
@Dannflor, what do you make of Nancy townreading two of your scumreads so vehemently?
I'm not really sure of the point of this question.

I don't think she's vehemently defending mastina, at least not anymore, and I don't think she ever was?

As far as sheep goes, I'm just confused by what she sees, and would like an answer from her before the day is out. Apologies if I missed it, but

@Nancy, what about that meta you linked makes you think sheep is town? I sure as hell don't see it

Yeah she never vehemently defended Mastina, I just rolled that in without thinking.

But I do like your response. Feels like logical thought.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:44 pm

In post 2742, Purrcocet wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
In post 2728, Xtoxm wrote:pls wis i want her gone ;-;
i promise to sheep you all day 2mo if you kill her. if im alive
how dare you defend her wisdom
this is off the table
the slot is confscum

Consider that the wisdom/mastina dream team was planning to snow you in lylo

Btw dont block me wis i .. .... .... ........ .... ....... promise ill give you fruit but if im doing the thing i cant give you fruit on the same night

Why do you appeal to Wisdom? I’M the claimed Roleblocker.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:51 pm

Everyone’s being such a fucking stick in the mud whenever someone pushes a lynch they dislike In breaking this out:

@Everyone: what are your top 4 preferred lynches? In order please.

@Wagonimics I want to lynch xtoxm, Vax, Mastina, and Wisdom. I’m aware xtoxm and mastina aren’t scum together ever but there’s plenty of support for multiball both with what has been seen setup/event wise and with how the game is developing. Wisdom I don’t see happening but is one I feel rather confident in.
This also serves as an answer to my own question so thanks for keeping me on top of things.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:57 pm

@Flavor gonna need one more choice from you. Got you logged with Mastina/Light/sheep rn

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:01 pm

In post 2808, Jingle wrote:Ausuka, Sheep, Dann, Xtox. There are others, but you wanted top four.

More importantly, I'll hammer anyone who gets into hammer range that isn't a townread of mine.

This is fine.
The point of this isn’t reaching a lynch in fact, but establishing common grounds for people to talk on.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:12 pm

In post 2811, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2808, Jingle wrote:Ausuka, Sheep, Dann, Xtox. There are others, but you wanted top four.

More importantly, I'll hammer anyone who gets into hammer range that isn't a townread of mine.
Great. That means if Mastina gets one more vote, you can triple vote hammer.

You straight up called her NAI, that is not a town read, and a direct contradiction of what you said earlier.

Gamma, join the Mastina wagon so I can reaction test Jingle Jangle who’s hardcore hatcheting me.

Sure, why the hell not. Let me see if it’s still valid first.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:13 pm

VOTE: mastina
Your move Jingle.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:15 pm

In post 2829, Jingle wrote:
In post 2491, xyzzy wrote:10 players voting for Dannflor (Wagonomics,
Nancy Drew 39
,
TheBrie
, light_ganski,
Trekkie99
, Party Boat, mastina, vonflare,
Ausuka
, sheepsaysmeep, Kokichi Oma)

In post 2771, Jingle wrote:8 players voting for mastina (Xtoxm, Flavor Leaf, Purrcocet, Enter,
Nancy Drew 39
,
Trekkie99
,
Ausuka
, Dannflor)
Where is the scum motivation on the Saudade wagon here?

Lol please this isn’t a point, this is sampling bias
What about the >50% over voters not on mastina as well?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:16 pm

In post 2831, Jingle wrote:
In post 2828, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: mastina
Your move Jingle.
K. I'll hammer when I wake up. Purr gets her ability at 2AM and I'm not staying up that late.

Cool.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:17 pm

In post 2833, Jingle wrote:
In post 2822, Flavor Leaf wrote:This is not how ScumSaudade interacts towards me.
In my experience scum Saudade plays terribly and then flakes.

lolno
Saudade rolled town in a game I replaced into, and iirc he has a track record of doing so. Fucking yawn.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:18 pm

In post 2837, Jingle wrote:
In post 2832, Gamma Emerald wrote:What about the >50% over voters not on mastina as well?
Literally the point of the question, Gamma.

Doesn’t look like it

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:21 pm

In post 2843, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Gamma - let’s change Vonflare for Enter.

Vonflare?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:24 pm

Btw Enter please respond to what I asked for in post 2800

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:28 pm

In post 2853, Enter wrote:I'm gonna be honest of living players I have reads on like six. I had decent reads on potato and cheeks til I found out they were dead.

And why is this?
Also, you unvoting after posting your logic reeks of lack of dedication.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:17 pm

VOTE: Xtoxm
In the mood for this or Flavor today.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:48 am

In post 3163, Xtoxm wrote:if we're looking at one scumteam 5 minimum
party boat out of those three

6 minimum, 8 maximum, from my homesite's standards (24p is standard size there)
If multiball I'd say 4 each?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:48 am

In post 3168, Wisdom wrote:Gamma who did you block?

Xtoxm

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:50 am

In post 3175, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2498, Dannflor wrote:Ausuka: Leaning a bit Town. I skimmed more than I read the most recent pages, so I'm not too clear why there's a wagon on this slot. I think it's probably a mislynch. She never ever thinks the Leo wagon is a good idea, even before it gets really bad and scum can be sure it'll go through anyway. Nothing in her ISO reads scummy to me so I'm gonna need someone to spell out the case on her. I'd would agree with the narrative that two mislynches are being setup today for town to choose between. However, I don't like post #2354 from Ausuka. It feeds into the BS narrative that we HAVE to lynch either my slot or Ausuka today which... I feel is being pushed by scum (more on that later). This is no deadlines mafia, having "no reason to town read someone" is not the best excuse to lynch someone. This would make more sense in a game with deadlines. However, I'm willing to give it a pass because of the heavy narrative being pressed that we NEED a lynch soon and that the game is stalling out. This could very well be a town survival instinct because of that.
this is easily a dannflor buddy

VOTE: ausuka

I'd be fine with you saying this, if you weren't pushing Ausuka earlier
how do I know you're not fitting evidence to reads?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:50 am

In post 3236, Xtoxm wrote:i doubt that

o_rly
mind explaining why?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:52 am

In post 3177, Wagonomics wrote:Okay, you're right, apparently for this mod 5 scum in a 15 player game is acceptable which is not something I quite processed when I signed up -- https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10522230

so I don't know what count we're supposed to be guessing at though. With 25 players with this mod we could have as many as 8 scum LOL. Let's hope not though.

I'd still prefer to believe three, or at least focus on three until it's clear I need to find more.

That was an open setup that plays differently than this
I don't think xyzzy designed it but even then, not a factor here

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:59 am

In post 3240, Xtoxm wrote:because i would be a terrible rb choice whether you're town or scum here
but maybe you're just bad and did it anyway

Why?
I thought you and mastina weren't scum together. mastina flipped town. That elevated your chances of being scum.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:00 am

In post 3241, Enter wrote:To answer GE's question if I could lynch four right now it would be pb -> wag -> xtomx -> vax

I don't need that answered anymore but thanks anyway!

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:04 am

In post 3246, Party Boat wrote:the fact that flavor has been pushing so godamn hard for these bullshit stances of 'oh mastina has to be scum look at all these counterwagons' and completely ignored saud DESPITE half the reason for everyone suspecting jaylow/saud was jaylow's vote on varsoon being the single worst post of all of day 1 should also be AN ENORMOUS FLASHING RED LIGHT

if anyone has opinions of mine they would like on particular players please ask for them

xtomx is still probably horrifically bad town imo while we're mentioning him

I'm down to take this Flavor lynch road

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:18 am

what the hell is going on

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:23 am

So I get the sense Ausuka is scum

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:29 am

In post 3288, Ausuka wrote:
In post 3282, Gamma Emerald wrote:So I get the sense Ausuka is scum
Why?

The way you're playing around PB, the way he's playing around you, and the Dannflor interactions PB pointed out that implicate you
VOTE: Ausuka

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:33 am

Basically I don't think PB reacts to your play this way as scum. I don't think to same holds true vice versa.
As for the Dannflor interactions, it doesn't always do so but the way in which it happened makes sense as scum defending a buddy

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:43 am

In post 3302, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3294, Gamma Emerald wrote:Basically I don't think PB reacts to your play this way as scum. I don't think to same holds true vice versa.
As for the Dannflor interactions, it doesn't always do so but the way in which it happened makes sense as scum defending a buddy
I was set up by scum!Mastina recently as her scumbuddy, so I know that is a thing and PB’s reasoning for Jingle NK, don’t really make sense but Ausuka’s does. Town triple voter, you don’t need any other reason.

Ok, never mentioned the NK?
The setup thing I guess makes sense. Still don't like how Ausuka is playing here.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:46 am

Actually hold up, why does a mafia flip mean one team? there could be wolves

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:50 am

wait a second I think it could be singleball, and there's probably a design philosophy I just cracked, the setup seems very based on kills and kill stopping.
Which calls into questions an investigative, Ausuka, have you claimed what your role is?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:01 am

In post 3317, Ausuka wrote:
In post 3315, Gamma Emerald wrote:wait a second I think it could be singleball, and there's probably a design philosophy I just cracked, the setup seems very based on kills and kill stopping.
Which calls into questions an investigative, Ausuka, have you claimed what your role is?
Yes, n2 cop. Also how do fruit vendor shenanigans fit into this, like, at all.

who is a FV?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:01 am

ohkay
why do you know who gave them to you?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:04 pm

In post 3449, light_ganski wrote:Want xtoxm or flavour today

Not sure on gamma anymore will have to reread

I have been like this since yesterday lol

Gamma Emerald · Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:05 pm

In post 3450, Flavor Leaf wrote:Just saying, besides Mastina, all my reads have been correct. Push that as TMI, I guess, but I’ve lost all grasp on this game.

Lol these are conflicting af
VOTE: flavor Leaf

Gamma Emerald · Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:22 pm

In post 3461, Flavor Leaf wrote:I would say if I go down, lynch off the people who have been pushing FL/Xtoxm.

There is lazy scum in there.

Gamma’s probably scum with Light.

I usually lose grasp of games when I can’t hold on to Gamma for support.

He also doesn’t push me when he’s town after having gotten to a town read.

So Gamma’s likely scum, and I have no interest in arguing further with it. He’ll win the 1v1 in this scenario.

It took you this long to come at me like this?
Hell no, you’re scum.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:26 pm

In post 3516, Xtoxm wrote:i think she kinda does, shes posting like she KNOWS im town
obviously the guilty isnt real
dont mind going gamma today
VOTE: gamma

Lol hell no
VOTE: Xtoxm
I was already gonna do this but you wimping out on the guilty is signing your own death warrant.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:37 pm

Because it was easier to just ride out a lynch on me
Tbh at this point I don’t mind to much if I get lynched IF you lynch through Flavor/Xtoxm/Wisdom after. Problem is, don’t see it happening.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:27 am

In post 3702, Purrcocet wrote:
Wisdom wrote:
In post 3533, Purrcocet wrote: Then explain to me what gamma has done that you think is town so I can show you how its bullshit. Until then you are actively trying to help scum, especially seeing as you are not even pushing singleton or Brie.
Ok lets see the flip

VOTE: Gamma

Promise to kill through the three I listed if I do get lynched?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:30 am

Like what I’m seeing is Wisdom stonewalling anything that isn’t a lynch on me and everyone just bending over like bitches to his will.

Fucking wake up.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:35 pm

In post 3741, Enter wrote:I'm gonna be honest w/ you gamma, I'm not really interested in this day taking forever again. After the jester my enthusiasm kinda dropped and while your posts don't seem particularly scummy to me, I don't know you and you haven't done anything I've seen that's particularly town, either. So if you can give me really good reason to put my vote elsewhere, sure.

Practically everyone who's been defending me is giving up. Do you think that happens if I'm scum or town?