Mini 105 - High School Teacher Mafia-Game Over!


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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:48 am

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So far we have had two investigative roles die (uraj and bluesin)
How do you know that BlueSin's was an investigative role? All it says is that he had multiple functions. I have no idea what that means, so how would you, an alleged sex-ed teacher know what these functions were?

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fos: tigris
for that reason and I just don't find your claim as credible as Quailman's.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:28 am

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Well Ygg and Quailman rushed into voting for Tigris, so that showed a bit odd...

Nard and I are confirmed innocent as far as I can tell, so if there are two anti-towns left and we lynch wrong, we'll be in serious(dead) trouble.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:06 pm

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I read death scenes very closely indeed. The death scene for bluesin
Bluesin was spotted in his lab mixing different kinds of potions that would help him to find evil in this game.
To me this indicates ability to search for scum. Add this to the history teacher's ability to check on past activities and we have two cops/copish roles. Adding quailman turns it into three cops, which is highly unlikely imo. With three cops, there is a possibility (not terribly high, but still a fair possibility) to be able to effectively end the game on the first day.
10 people left, 3 investigatees, 3 cops, 4 scum. Additionally, to have a role that can serve as a cop or a doc as needed (bluesin), this effectively negates any advantage that a scum might gain from killing one of them night one. This type of role fits in with a general trend in minis and other games to have back-ups and the like. And might I inquire as to what type of teacher quail claimed to be? He never mentioned it.

Additionally, bluesin commented about the role-blocker with near-certainty (day 2), why would he do that (after doubting coolbot's method, not his actual role)? Because I blocked him the first night and thus he knew that the role existed. I didn't claim then because I blocked zoneace the following night and that information would not have helped (I blocked him because, to me, with him almost certainly dying that night, the only roles that it might not be beneficial to block him would be either commuter (which would have led to gf accusations, which would have harmed the town) or doc, which I was fairly sure he was not).

Furthermore, why in the world would I have de-railed the yggs bandwagon on the first day after his claim if I was evil (not one person unvoted him after his claim until I supported the fact (in my book), that vig is a horrible thing for mafia to claim)? If anyone can answer that, I would be both astonished and bewildered enough to lynch myself, as it would not make any sense in the slightest from a mafia member point of view (saying that I was attaching myself to an innocent is not truly valid in my book, I don't bother with that when I'm mafia).

vote: quail
, I don't buy it and I would sacrifice a fellow mafia member in a heartbeat in a situation like that. The one thing that tips things in the town's favor is Yggs choosing to kill again last night, namely because it does not matter if there are 5 or 6, two wrong lynches lose, so with yggs, blue, and I still around, there would have been a high chance of getting two of us lynched without too much problem, except now yggs is almost certainly cleared as pro-town, unless he is another sk, which I would have words with stewie about. The only thing that made me hesitate is the fear I've had since macros' game where he had an evil mason (who was attached to myself and ID if I recall correctly), she ended up winning, but even if this is the case, we have tomorrow to try and figure it out.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:49 pm

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I read death scenes very closely indeed. The death scene for bluesin
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Bluesin was spotted in his lab mixing different kinds of potions that would help him to find evil in this game.
Sorry....I didn't see that part in my first read-through.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but did Quailman ever actually claim? From what it seems like to me (and I wasn't extremely active in this part of the game), but we all assumed that Quailman was a detective of some sort when he said that he was so sure of Sketchwick being scum. He never actually claimed though. I'd like to hear the entire claim from Quailman.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:34 pm

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I am the Physics teacher. I can use my knowledge to predict movement
and
determine whether or not someone is evil. The first night I got that ZoneAce stayed put and I saw nothing unusual about him. The second night I got that Sketchwick was evil, but the new mod didn't tell me where he went, if he did go out. Last night (I asked specifically about where he went), I got that nard054 is innocent and went to see KingEnigma.

In retrospect, I think I should have investigated BlueSin or Tigris, but there was something fishy about nard054 in my mind, and I figured I'd be getting a double investigation, which I did, but it's just a confirmation of their earlier claim. Had I investigated Tigris, this day would probably be over, but had I picked BlueSin, I'd have nothing except my now-allayed suspicions of the masons.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:09 am

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Quailman wrote:Whether they met or not, I do not know. I didn't know they were masons when I randomly voted one, then the other. I
speculated
about how BadAndie could have reached her conclusion, but I have no such role.
I did not see anyone together last night, nor did I say that I did
. I thought I believed you, but you're still acting wierd.
That quote was from page 4, when I brought up that Quailman had voted for both masons.

Anyway, there seems to be a little contradiction there. You said you saw ZONEACE "stay put," implying that if he would have met with someone else, you would have seen him with that someone.

I feel that this is enough reason to put the last vote on, but I'll wait for you to defend yourself and for the town to add anything.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:21 am

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Put the last vote on whom? Me?

I am a physics teacher. According to my e-mail, I put motion sensors around his room and they did not go off. That was night one. What contradiction are you referring to? Zoneace was a townie. Did you think that he met with someone?

As for your quoting me from day one, I said at the time that I "had no such (investigative) role." There was no need to reveal my abilities at the time. All I had at the time was that zoneace was innocent, which he later turned out to be. If you check, I'm certain that you'll find me saying that "I find nothing suspicious about Zoneace" when random voting had given him a vote or two or three.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:36 am

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unvote: Tigris


I just checked my PM's that arrived when I was traveling on business. It turns out that Sketchwick visited Yggdrasil's classroom night two. This wasn't PMed to me until right before I got the night 3 result, which is all I read. You remember, I had not gotten the where-he-went result for my night two investigation. That sheds new light on the situation. I still strongly suspect Tigris, but Ygg posted his analysis right away. Sheesh! If I had had that prior to sending last night's investigation - or receiving the result, if I could have changed - I would have investigated Ygg for sure.

I don't get it, though. We had a mafia killing. None of the others have claimed vig, and we lynched the SK day 1. I figured Sketchwick would have gone to Zoneace's house, unless it was the other maf's hit, in which case I'd have gotten maybe that they met. WTF?

I need to rethink this. Now the only people I trust are nard054, KingEnigma (less so), and me. :( What would sketchwick have been doing on his way to Ygg's place? Could BlueSin have killed ZoneAce and saved Ygg from a maf kill that night?
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:19 am

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I think that Sketchwick was trying to kill me. That would be the optimal play for the mafia, to have me kill an innocent and to kill me on the same night. However, thorred likely protected me from the kill.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:49 am

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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:09 am

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I have three of the last five posts, not counting yours, Nanook. I was waiting to hear from others.

So Ygg, are you saying you killed ZoneAce night two? Had you mentioned that before?

I am still inclined to blieve the most likely scenario, which involves just that. And since it comes down to the two masons, who (probably) don't have any more solid evidence for us, and Ygg, Tigris and me, I guess I'd have to vote Tigris, and if the game isn't over with that lynch, then it's got to be Ygg.

I must agree with whoever said that there seem to be a lot of investigative/protective roles in this game. I guess that's to counter the two killing groups in a minigame.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:01 am

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Quailman wrote:I have three of the last five posts, not counting yours, Nanook. I was waiting to hear from others.

So Ygg, are you saying you killed ZoneAce night two? Had you mentioned that before?
In post #172, I said:
Yggdrasil wrote:I guess I'll go after ZONEACE tonight. When tomorrow comes and we need to find scum, I'd rather be looking amongst people who have plenty of posts for us to analyze than people who leave us with little to judge their alignment.

I was hoping for a little more time for discussion, though and possibly a claim from whomever you wanted me to lynch, but oh well.
I am still inclined to blieve the most likely scenario, which involves just that. And since it comes down to the two masons, who (probably) don't have any more solid evidence for us, and Ygg, Tigris and me, I guess I'd have to vote Tigris, and if the game isn't over with that lynch, then it's got to be Ygg.

I must agree with whoever said that there seem to be a lot of investigative/protective roles in this game. I guess that's to counter the two killing groups in a minigame.
Okay, so far we know that two mafia, and one SK are dead. Two kills last night means that there are two killing groups out there. Do you really think that a mini would have three evil killing groups? I think it is fairly clear that I am vigilante. So, in my opinion, nard054 and I are confirmed innocents. Me because of the vig kill last night and nard because there is likely only one mafia left. Therefore, if you are lying then you are the remaining mafia and nard cannot be the remaining mafia. If you are telling the truth, then both of you are innocent.

So, it comes down to Tigris, Quailman, and KingEnigma. Right now, I'm still most suspicious of Tigris since I'm not too comfortable with the idea of a good mason and a bad one, especially since both of them passed up a good chance to put the lynching vote on Tigris (though I'll the good masion/bad masion a possibility) and I don't think that Quailman would have sacrificed Sketchwick yesterday.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:53 am

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The way I see it, we have this game won. Lynch one of them today and if they're not the one, the two remaining members will lynch them tomorrow (Or Ygg can kill them tonight). Anyone object?
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:01 am

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Here goes.
vote: Tigris
Let's end this.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:00 pm

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Yggdrasil wrote: So, it comes down to Tigris, Quailman, and KingEnigma.
Except Ive(or BadAndie for that matter) has also been outed with Nard, both being masons and such. Thought this was pretty clear from the first day?
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:57 pm

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Quailman wrote:Here goes.
vote: Tigris
Let's end this.
:? Sure, why not? If its not tigris, its (obviously) quailman.

vote: tigris
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:06 pm

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*light laugh* And so it ends *shrug*, the only way I could see getting out of this alive was getting Quail lynched, killing nard, and then trying my hardest to get either KE or yggs to vote for the other. A really improbable possibility, so meh ^_^. At least I through a temporary wrench in a lynch that should have been no issue at all, good game all.

Incidently Quail, it is for the best that you didn't investigate me, godperson-thingy, which might have allowed me to pull something off. Hope everyone has fun (whistling the song from 'Life of Brian') ^_^

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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:11 pm

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Tigris gets dragged out of his classroom to the gym, where they have decided to beat her senselessly with rulers. After beating her, they decide that that isn't enough, they have to finish her off by stringing her up on the basketball hoop where she slowly chokes to death while swinging back and forth, then suddenly the rope breaks and she gasps for air, but it didn't take long for the ruler batters to come back for some more, and it was then that Tigris was announced dead.

Congratulations Town you have defeated the Ela Teachers. Left standing are you math teacher masons, and Mr. Yggdrasil the Botany Teacher.

Here is the PM that I received from Stewie earlier that describes the roles pretty much in full.
Stewie wrote:nard054 - 8
Tigris - 1
Someone - 2
ZONEACE - 12
CoolBot - 10
CurtainDog - 3
Quailman - 5
Yggdrasil - 11
BlueSin - 4
thorred - 6
Uraj45 - 9
BadAndie - 7

1. ELA Godfather. Fiction reading focus, imaginative enough to come with plots to always look inocent to cops.
2. Non-fiction Ela teacher.
3. Non-fiction Ela teacher.

Town

4. Chemistry. Throuout the day, he can sneak symbols for elements into his post. The more, the better. At the end of the day, this person has to PM me telling me all the element symbols used in purpose (to ignore the ones that are concidence and make my job easier) and to an ability, acording to how many different were used.

MOD NOTE: 0: no ability; 1-5: 20% self protect; 6-10: 40% protect someone else; 11-20: cop investigation 80% sucess; 20-70: doctor protect; 70+: doc protect + 30% cop invetigation. Symbols MUST be in proper notation, one capital letter (I, O, N, W, etc.) or one capital and one lowercase (He, Li, Ne, Ag, etc.). symbols in the format of "i," "aG" or "ne" won't be accepted.
5. Physics: cop (knows movement, follows people around)
6. Biology: doc (knows how to heal)
7. Math teacher Mason
8. Math teacher Mason
9. History teacher (Can target someone and know all the people that person targeted, but has 1 result randomly messed up, unless that person targeted nobody)
10.Gym teacher (SK, if he targets mafia and mafia targets them, only mafia dies, since gym teacher is stronger. Same with vigis)
11.Botany teacher (knows many plants, and uses posionous ones to kill anyone bad, vigi)
12.Business teacher (townie)
I hope that you guys enjoyed the game even with me as a replacement mod, and I am sorry for all the inconveniences given. Hopefully, you can have the chance to see me at my best in one of my own games. I want to thank Stewie for trusting me with his game as well.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:36 pm

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Good game, Tigris. You almost had me convinced with your roleblocking Blue Sin explanation. Had Quailman been more suspicious, your plan probably may have worked.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:09 am

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Yay, town! I like the concept of the chemistry teahcer sneaking symbols into his posts, though I got confused trying to follow the explanation of abilities.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2004 4:28 pm

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