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In post 195, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 60, Dannflor wrote:To add to what Taly said, pairs should probably be decided near end of the pre-dance so we have the most info when making them. ...or we just pick a date we think is cute.

I like this realism about the chances of an effective pairing strategy

In post 74, Vedith wrote:

In post 72, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Yes, Vedith seems too eager and isn’t trying to sort the ladies.

My main concern is making it to the dance.

In post 82, Vedith wrote:Trying to plan the dance setup in 2019

In post 204, Ankamius wrote:I'm really confused how suddenly coins matter this game when most people didn't care at all last game despite me ramming it down peoples throats all game

In post 87, Krazy wrote:

In post 70, Dannflor wrote:I mean ladies know how many coins they have yea? Can we just pair town read gents with high coin ladies, or am I missing something?

This is another strategy but it presents all the same risks of strategy 1, which is if we are wrong on some reads Dance 1 risks getting really, really stupid

I guess partly I just want to make it so there is less scum motivation in scum claiming and speed lynching town

But you may be partly right. I might need to think about this. But I think this is why we basically just have to no lynch. Otherwise if we mislynch once, and scum have 8+ combined coins, the game gets really stupid really fast.

I don't know if you noticed this yet but I really don't like the coins since they risk making pre-dance pointless and/or risks turning apparently optimal d1 play for town into a disaster.

But you maybe right--maybe we want the ladies with coins 5-8 to all hardclaim, and actually just pair in order of townreads there?

Otherwise if we have 2 scum gentlemen that, combined, have 8+ coins, dance 1 is just awful for town

In post 204, Ankamius wrote:I'm really confused how suddenly coins matter this game when most people didn't care at all last game despite me ramming it down peoples throats all game

In post 190, Ankamius wrote:

In post 186, Allomancer wrote:

In post 177, Ankamius wrote:I agree that high coin ladies should claim since I did it last game

But I vehemently deny that skipping first dance is a good idea in any stretch

I agree

In post 180, Ankamius wrote:Dann is a scumread too btw

I disagree

He's done nothing that's town and the way he's dancing around the setup discussion feels too "scum trying to post a lot to hide how little they're saying" for my taste

In post 190, Ankamius wrote:

In post 186, Allomancer wrote:

In post 177, Ankamius wrote:I agree that high coin ladies should claim since I did it last game

But I vehemently deny that skipping first dance is a good idea in any stretch

I agree

In post 180, Ankamius wrote:Dann is a scumread too btw

I disagree

He's done nothing that's town and the way he's dancing around the setup discussion feels too "scum trying to post a lot to hide how little they're saying" for my taste

In post 211, Dannflor wrote:

In post 190, Ankamius wrote:

In post 186, Allomancer wrote:

In post 177, Ankamius wrote:I agree that high coin ladies should claim since I did it last game

But I vehemently deny that skipping first dance is a good idea in any stretch

I agree

In post 180, Ankamius wrote:Dann is a scumread too btw

I disagree

He's done nothing that's town and the way he's dancing around the setup discussion feels too "scum trying to post a lot to hide how little they're saying" for my taste

A lot of people are posting a lot, very few people have said anything of value.

Vedith’s self preservation is town, also

In post 98, Krazy wrote:However, given that a mountainous in dance 2 can be really exhausting for town, I do think there is merit in going with at least some of the logic of scenario 2 -- have the top 4 coin ladies choose a man they townread that they can enjoy solving with or enjoy sorting rather than having it be over-determined by group consensus

In post 214, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 98, Krazy wrote:However, given that a mountainous in dance 2 can be really exhausting for town, I do think there is merit in going with at least some of the logic of scenario 2 -- have the top 4 coin ladies choose a man they townread that they can enjoy solving with or enjoy sorting rather than having it be over-determined by group consensus

Reminder that deadline doesn't reset off a lynch in Dance 2
So with that plan we'd have 8 days to sort 14 players

In post 101, Krazy wrote:So basically, top 4 coin ladies still get to pick their partners. *town does not pick for them*, but *town can by consensus reject a pairing*?

That is, top 4 ladies just have 1 extra step.

1. Dude offers
2. If Lady likes the dude, Lady asks, "who all scumreads this guy?"
3. If it's less than half the town, she accepts. She only rejects if more than half the town rejects the pairing

whereas the other 4 ladies are just like
1. Dude offers
2. Lady decides

something like that?

In post 197, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh boy so the IC is deferred to later. That's interesting and negates the chance of it getting killed. I like.

In post 156, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

First dance will end if there are 12 players or fewer left alive or deadline is reached. During the intermission, Mafia may secretly force one of the dance pairs to leave.

Mafia also picks another player, whose alignment will be made public at the beginning of the Second dance

. Second dance will then begin, and continue until the game's end.

In post 106, Dannflor wrote:

In post 101, Krazy wrote:1. Dude offers
2. If Lady likes the dude, Lady asks, "who all scumreads this guy?"
3. If it's less than half the town, she accepts. She only rejects if more than half the town rejects the pairing

I like this quite a bit

No lynching after the first day also gets us down to an odd number of pairs after the NK, yea?

In post 198, Allomancer wrote:oh no anka might be scum here what do i do

In post 199, Dr Worm wrote:

In post 189, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 175, Ankamius wrote:Are you all forgetting that RC is in this game and that scum would take an opportunity to remove him ASAP if they could?

RC hasn’t even posted. Why are you defacto already assuming he’s town here?

nancy why aren't you angry at anklemouse for using all caps?? thats not fair

In post 221, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 199, Dr Worm wrote:

In post 189, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 175, Ankamius wrote:Are you all forgetting that RC is in this game and that scum would take an opportunity to remove him ASAP if they could?

RC hasn’t even posted. Why are you defacto already assuming he’s town here?

nancy why aren't you angry at anklemouse for using all caps?? thats not fair

When did Ank type in allcaps? And

no one

should make a habit of this.

In post 203, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 74, Vedith wrote:

In post 72, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Yes, Vedith seems too eager and isn’t trying to sort the ladies.

My main concern is making it to the dance.

I do recall Vedith being similar in the last one we were in together and he was town