Open 753: Nomination Mafia [Game Over!]

[Irrelephant11]

VOTE: Irrelephant
Shoshin is either scum or right
If Shoshin’s lynch order is bad I trust this playerlist to lynch her in lylo
But I do really really really think she’s town so

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I mean at this point im very on board to lynch fus next
Most of my pushback was like one little flash of thinking he was town once and paranoia you were scum att

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Sorry I'm lynching you Irrel if you're town, I'm just paranoid because you townread Fusco.

Why have you never really been paranoid of me before now?

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Sorry I'm lynching you Irrel if you're town, I'm just paranoid because you townread Fusco.

Why have you never really been paranoid of me before now?

I've been paranoid since that townread.

No I mean
This is the first game where my bad read has made you paranoid rather than just bad at early reads

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Volx has invested a lot into today, shos seems like they would be saltiest about their lynch, and irrel seems most indifferent.

I definitely feel like all three of us have invested a lot into today
Did you summarize here for a purpose? Genuine question

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@Irrelephant, Do you think that scum!Shoshin would be able to reasonably predict that you would be willing to sacrifice yourself in order to stop her from getting nightkilled, as long as she could convince you that she is town? I'm just curious if you think that's a reasonable thought process to come from scum!Shoshin based on your history together, because if it is then it substantially reduces her risk in self-nominating as scum.

My prediction of Irrel's behavior around me is that he never sacrifices himself for me ever again because of what happened in Starcraft. I'm amazed he's doing it here and grateful but it's not at all what I ever would have predicted.

I agree that Shoshin could never have seen this coming as either alignment, it’s basically the most surprising thing I could do fhpov. I stand by it, though. I won’t be inviting or fighting my lynch

Don’t lynch Shoshin before lylo - and if I were still alive, I’d sheep Shoshin as long as she hit scum once every two phases.
Don’t lynch Alonzo before the day before lylo
Don’t lynch volxen or Auro unless they push each other’s lynch
Shoshin, save DT’s lynch for after you’ve hit a scum. Of your scumreads, he’s my townlean.

Any other questions about my reads or thoughts?

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*unvoting or fighting

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Do you think Shoshin is scum

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Do you think Shoshin is scum

What about the stark contrast in volx from D1 to d2?

Do you think he is scum?

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Perhaps. I think of the three of you, shosh/vilx/irrel would be my order for today.

Obv your the least survivalistic today, just hope that's not a mistake on your part

Me too
But I don’t see the point in being survivalistic here when I townread the other two very much

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Make the scumcase
That’s what no one has really done except me/Shoshin/Volxen in circles
And that’s part of why I’m so confident we’re all town

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104% chance of scum this dayphase?
I appreciate knowing who you townread/scumread but I still don’t really get *why* you scumread volxen. Pretend I’m dumb and need it spelled out for me entirely

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Yeah yikes
Someone monitor volxen sitewide

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Glhf

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Yeah yikes
Someone monitor volxen sitewide

Activity tell I mean

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Fus first
Yeah nvm about activity tell

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Fus first mainly to bop you so actually just lynch scum

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I mean you've been self-voting for a long time, you've told me repeatedly that you are confident that Shoshin is town, and you didn't want her to be lynched today. What else would you have me do Irrelephant?

Explain your vote in the post you vote me
The silence around it was what weirded me out
I think it’s probably fine, but please don’t fall back in the shadows now that you’re not a nominee

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Yeah just lynch scum do whatever order you’re more confident lynches scum
I believe in you to win this regardless of your alignment so good job if you fooled me

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Wish RC was still here tbh

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I think everyone can pretend that Shoshin doesn't exist this game.
I'll probably do that for the rest of it.

Lynch her or sheep her, are my conftown suggestions to you, sir

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Yeah good point
Shoshin is town until she lynches two town in a row

I forgot I won’t be around to explain my paranoia above is just jokes

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Everyone on my wagon, sheep shoshin in my honor thank u

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I can’t like prove she’s town but she’s my most confident townread and she and I have both made good cases for why she’s is town if you’d like to refresh your memories and she deserves the shot to be sheeped for two phases at least

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I mean you've been self-voting for a long time, you've told me repeatedly that you are confident that Shoshin is town, and you didn't want her to be lynched today. What else would you have me do Irrelephant?

Explain your vote in the post you vote me
The silence around it was what weirded me out
I think it’s probably fine, but please don’t fall back in the shadows now that you’re not a nominee

@Irrelephant, I

repeatedly

expressed concerns over scum!Shoshin this day phase. In part because of her day one play and the GrandWazoo wagon, and in part because of the theory that if she was scum she knew you would sacrifice yourself to stop her from getting lynched. When I asked you the first time if you were confident that Shoshin is town you said that you were "94% confident", and when I asked you again you maintained that confidence. You've also assured me that scum!Shoshin wouldn't be able to reasonably predict that you would sacrifice yourself based on the Starcraft game that you had together.

From my point of view, the reason why I would vote Shoshin over you is if I thought she was scum. You've made a point to repeatedly tell me that you strongly believe that Shoshin is town, and you have gone so far as to self-vote in order to help ensure that Shoshin is not lynched. You clearly don't want Shoshin lynched, and you've done nothing but reassure me that she is most likely town. So again, what else would you have me do?

Volxen I’m not calling for your lynch
Sometimes empty vote posts look scummy at first glance
I do want you to up your game this next phase, tho

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I can’t like prove she’s town but she’s my most confident townread and she and I have both made good cases for why she’s is town if you’d like to refresh your memories and she deserves the shot to be sheeped for two phases at least

Well you flipping town counts as 1 town.
A mis lynch tomorrow means Shoshin is 100% discredited on reads.

That's all.

This lynch was my call
Lynch me for it
(lol)
You and you only have permission to see if you can get Shoshin lynched if she directs a lynch this next phase onto town

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Yay! Gg

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Good job endgame townies! You three were stellar!
I don’t think I agree that scum needed a kill - they could have won in lylo if town had played poorly or scum had played better - and it was pretty easy for scum to get to lylo. Scum all kinda got outted in that one phase, though, which really undid some good work.

Well done town! Shoutout to volxen for being the first to name the scumteam! Shoutout to Shoshin for the well-times 1v1 with SR!

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Scum’s repeated rep outs were pretty classless, but I’m happy about the overall result