Fire on the Mountain [Over]

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Eh not really at this point.

I'm very sure two scums are in this list and rest are town.

- DDL
- Vedith
- MP
- Ligar

This was my last given reads.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Between this and now were some baseless/random "what-if" scenarios and paranoia inside my head so I'm not going to bother posting what went through my minds in that period.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I'll have to get to the other two with this readthrough but Karmeleon yes

I think D1 wagon record itself makes him town to be honest.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What's your confidence on FAslot and Alisaeslot?

I'd get a bit paranoid about my reads on them if the game was nearing the end and they were both still alive.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Xtoxm is scum

And this is after you cooled your head a bit right?
You had him as "near locktown" for very long while and you did mention that you have weakness when people call you scum.
And I'm going to be honest I was kinda sheeping you on that read for a while.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

NerfedBuJ

Why?

He was a counterwagon to scumgrapes.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Ank not scum with DDL.

i told you im not scum period

So are you scum without period?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

There are lot of things that needs to be said aloud.
That was not the one.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What did you gain by ruining what you think was a reaction test?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What did you gain by ruining what you think was a reaction test?

The test is over. I gave it multiple days. I even waited for him to post his results, which he did. I'm contesting his results.

Xtoxm Mar 08, 01:07pm Mar 26, 08:43pm

1 day 15 hours

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I don't know why you conclude the test is over when he didn't even show up to react yet.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Results posted as quoted below.


Xtoxm has posted in other threads since

Reaction test wasn't even really for him, it was to see if a scum buddy would defend him.

Funny how when I finally get around to leading on someone

1) xtoxm despite supposedly scumreading me doesn't even react to it
and
2) suddenly we have a dannflor wagon going to counterwagon it

Huh I must've read that post wrong the first time.
I feel super cranky right now due to lack of sleep, so I'll refrain myself from posting today.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

[Reiuji Utsuho]

oh i guess you are right - that dousing happens during the night, so igniting also must happen during the night. move along folks

Town here is just like oh okay

Scum trying to fake a townslip milks it for all it's worth. HMMM look at all this thought process of how I clearly didn't know that ignite happened during the night

Did literally anyone in this game think scum could ignite during the day?

*looks around nervously*

*fidgets hands*

*slowly raises hand*

[Reiuji Utsuho]

*looks around nervously*

*fidgets hands*

*slowly raises hand*

Well, but then this was because I didn't read the sample role PMs and I just assumed so until I checked the sample role PMs near the beginning of this day.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

my understanding from what others have said is that she's a strong player and i imagine she's capable of putting the kind of stuff on the board that she's done this game.

It's kinda funny actually. This is my second mafia game ever and my first game on this site.
I played my first game in over a year ago.

And yet some people are calling me alt account <_<

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I think lynching Maxwell > Vedith > xtoxm > DDL > Liger will end the game then or somewhere before.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I wish I had time to reread the game now.
I've been bashed by all the writing I had to do for past few days.

Meanwhile

I'm having a hard time with this game, and I can't figure out why. I've solid town-reads, but I can't seem to get any solid scum-reads. I think my vote on DDL upon thinking it through again isn't for the right reasons, and I think a big part of why I'm voting him is because I don't like the way he's been playing and expressing himself. I don't really think DDL's getting lynched today regardless, and I'm unsure as to whether or not I even want that lynch anymore.

I need to give this game a read tomorrow and look at it differently since I'm finding myself lost every time I visit this thread, and it's not a feeling I usually have.

UNVOTE: DDL.

For all the Alisae-slot-doubters, if this post is not gleaming with towniness I don't know what is.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Apparently BuJ is being resisted as a townread pretty hard so it is time for a new list

1. Prince of Renais
   
2. Extrapolated Eagle (I don't know why I didn't put this name here last time. I must've forgotten. Maybe he lacks presence.
   Just kidding
   )
   
3. Karmeleon
   
4. RAE
   
5. Ankamius
   
6. Jingle

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Also I think mcqueen is still town?
I think he's just playing differently compared to others.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Assuming most of us agrees with the townreads in the box above, we just need 3 more and then we can proceed to lynching.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Personally, mine looks like this at the moment.

1. Prince of Renais
   
2. Extrapolated Eagle (I don't know why I didn't put this name here last time. I must've forgotten. Maybe he lacks presence.
   Just kidding
   )
   
3. Karmeleon
   
4. RAE
   
5. Ankamius
   
6. Jingle
   
7. mcqueen
   
8. Dannflor
   
9. ???

That "???" was BuJ but because many people are telling me wrong I'm gonna take my time some day between today and tomorrow and look over their cases on him.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Re: Dannflor to some people
While I think their suspicions are kinda justified, I think it is most likely that he is simply town in this game.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

You think a lot differently than I do.

Currently I have no doubt that town will win.
It's just a matter of which day.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Like, 5 people pool with two mafia left.
We only need 40% accuracy or higher.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

that kind of confidence is incredibly daft

Sulking gets you nowhere.
Confidence at least gets you somewhere.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Like, one of the reason why this game feels hard right now is because we have too many obvious towns in this game that scum can't really penetrate, resulting read similarity regardless of the alignment.
That's a

good

thing, if you ask me.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Like I can't stop people from being all negative about this game and whatnot.
But today is only Day 3, and we already lynched one out of three mafia.
It's waaaay too early to feel depressed, anxious, sulky, whatever.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Can we not focus on a pissing match rn? It really doesn't matter who is right or wrong. If the fight happens, everyone loses.

it does matter. If xtoxm overreacted on purpose just to start shit and dilute the focus on him being scum, well then thats an outstanding move.

you dont think xtoxm could pull it off?

Okay mcqueen is definitely town.

But no thanks I ain't commenting on that post.

look Xtoxm can give me flak post game for this, but I can so easily see how his post could be faked.

If it was, Xtoxm is definitely scum.

If not, he’s probably town.

If Xtoxm is scum, prince is not. X- town, p- either

Posts like this, generally.

I don't think "Xtoxm can be scum who is faking the whole hatred thing" is a trajectory that scum wants to pursue ever in this situation.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Can we not focus on a pissing match rn? It really doesn't matter who is right or wrong. If the fight happens, everyone loses.

it does matter. If xtoxm overreacted on purpose just to start shit and dilute the focus on him being scum, well then thats an outstanding move.

you dont think xtoxm could pull it off?

Okay mcqueen is definitely town.

But no thanks I ain't commenting on that post.

look Xtoxm can give me flak post game for this, but I can so easily see how his post could be faked.

If it was, Xtoxm is definitely scum.

If not, he’s probably town.

If Xtoxm is scum, prince is not. X- town, p- either

Posts like this, generally.

I don't think "Xtoxm can be scum who is faking the whole hatred thing" is a trajectory that scum wants to pursue ever in this situation.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Now how did that happen?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Personally, mine looks like this at the moment.

1. Prince of Renais
   
2. Extrapolated Eagle (I don't know why I didn't put this name here last time. I must've forgotten. Maybe he lacks presence.
   Just kidding
   )
   
3. Karmeleon
   
4. RAE
   
5. Ankamius
   
6. Jingle
   
7. mcqueen
   
8. Dannflor
   
9. ???

That "???" was BuJ but because many people are telling me wrong I'm gonna take my time some day between today and tomorrow and look over their cases on him.

Good

Add DDL

Is this more of "Your list looks great"
or more of "Your list lacks DDL?"

[Reiuji Utsuho]

i think karm is the only consensus read

And me, disregarding the conspiracy theories.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

question: is there anybody in the game that disagrees these people are town?

Prince
Reiuji
Karmeleon
Eagle

If you are going to copy my method at least you should outline them neatly with list tags and area tags too.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Prince

Ank

Reiuji

Karmeleon

Eagle

McQueen

Ali

Max

DDL

Jingle

Light

Xtoxm

Dannflor

NerfedBuJ

Sell me on everything below Ali.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

That's a lot of scum.

Well I don't see your name in "town" list so if you don't mind I'll go ahead and

VOTE: Vedith

[Reiuji Utsuho]

It's because you don't take a stance on me.

This is incredibly shallow.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

We should just lynch Max instead to be honest.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I like max

Can we lynch liger instead

Max first and I'll consider it.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Can we not lynch Vedith

It's fine he just said a lot of dumb things over the course of the game, we're not gonna feed him rope yet, I don't think

Like Shoshin being town?
How dumb of me.

Majority of us lynched Shoshin knowing that she's flipping town deep inside, so.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Also fine I'll yield this time.

VOTE: Liger

[Reiuji Utsuho]

because you have a chip on your shoulder about me and I'm not sure why.

Gee I wonder why.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Do we win if we lynch all of [xtoxm/Max/Liger]?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Do we win if we lynch all of [xtoxm/Max/Liger]?

i'll lynch max if liger is guaranteed to get killed as well if max doesn't flip scum

I did say that once.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Why RAS again?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I don't really oppose Xtomx lynch either.

I will be around if what they called in the other site I played "Chinese Fire Drill" happens here too.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

UNVOTE:

Hammer prevention for now

[Reiuji Utsuho]

like, he was a primary wagon early day 1?

The fact that BuJ wagon was a counterwagon to scumgrapes wagon is one of the reason why I'm still iffy on lynching him.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Oh.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Oh also I think BuJ's mathpost came from towny interest?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Most of his posting around that time is defending himself or that, I could see that coming from scum!him being content with where the gamestate is sitting

I think if I was BuJ and J was scum I wouldn't be content with the gamestate? Like, "spending most of his time defending" and "content with the gamestate" doesn't mesh.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Like if he is spending his time having to defend himself and yet he feels content with the game state that's more town if anything.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I don't know if people are payinh attention to her reads.

Not many are apparently becaue barely any people reaponded to my list <_<

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Like if he is spending his time having to defend himself and yet he feels content with the game state that's more town if anything.

You just sound like your making up reasons to townread him. You reading your posts?

Of course. I double check them too.
Peoblem?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Hah, jokes on me, I typed the same typo twice.
Problem*

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Like if he is spending his time having to defend himself and yet he feels content with the game state that's more town if anything.

You just sound like your making up reasons to townread him. You reading your posts?

Of course. I double check them too.
Peoblem?

As long as you recognize it, we golden.

Oh I was reaponding to "are you reading your posts?" part.

I don't know what you saw in there but clearly I was arguing with Ankamius there?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Like, if the dude is being attacked enough to focus on defending himself, and yet he is being content with the game state and post "scum can't win this" mathpost, doesn't that make him town? Why would scum feel be content with the game state there?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Give me your keys. You have had enough tonight.

No, never, nada, nein, damedesuyo, non bene

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Tebahpla eht.
I am very sober.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

i claim lyncher
my lynch target is liger

if you help me lynch my target i'll work w/ town for the rest of the game

This game doesn't have lyncher...
"Lynch All Liars" is a phrase I've seen somewhere when I read things before.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Is it not possible to have a strong read on people without having to play with them?

Because if that's the case my reads have zero credibility.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

(Well, I would like to think that my reade have at least some sort of credibility)

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Is it not possible to have a strong read on people without having to play with them?

Because if that's the case my reads have zero credibility.

it's quite possible

please tell me something towny that liger has done today

Oh I was asking about it in general.
Specifically you asking him with "have you played with him before" rather than "ok why?"

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Fair.
I've been getting slightly annoyed by all the past games talk that I have no clue of nor want to read.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I could hammer right now.
But I did say that my treatment towards mcqueen will be 5% worse.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

He was talking to me!

[Reiuji Utsuho]

So who's at L-1 again?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Well throw that out the window or ill push u. Dont think i forgot or was joking earlier when i said theres scum in (you, prince, alisae)

But if I defenestrate my 5% penalty towards my treatment of youyou won't pay attention to me

[Reiuji Utsuho]

If he flips scum I may or may not feel a bit embarrassed.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

If he flips scum I may or may not feel a bit embarrassed.

Go spell the alphabet backwards a 1000 times as penance.

But there is no flip for me to see if I'm right or wrong.
Wait a minute...

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I think Prince and EE are doused and the third could be a number of people tbh.

I don't think EE is doused in this game.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Also I don't understand people in this game.

What is this mentality of "I don't want to lynch scummy players because they do not give much info."

Like hello? We're still lynching scum?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Meanwhile I think Liger is town now.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I think I'm just going to sheep PoR for the entire Day 4.

I kinda feel like he is becoming the Cassandra of this game.

VOTE: mcqueen

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Well that kinda contradicts my read but alas

VOTE: Liger_Zero

[Reiuji Utsuho]

1. Prince of Renais
   
2. Extrapolated Eagle
   
3. Karmeleon
   
4. RAS
   
5. Ankamius
   
6. Jingle
   
7. mcqueen
   
8. Dannflor
   
9. Liger_Zero
   
10. Vedith

is what I have for my townlist.

That leaves DDL/xtoxm/Max but I don't kinda feel content with this PoE list? I don't feel like there would be 2 scums in this PoE list. So I think I'm wrong in one of my townlist.
From what I'm looking, basically everyone in the lower list of my reads have shown the "I don't care lynch me" attitude except for DDL. So clearly this is not the towntell in this game.
(Or maybe because only DDL showed the 'hey I don't want to be lynched,' that kinda makes him townish? I have no clue!)

I think Vedith replacing out shenanigan makes him kinda town (although it is unorthodox to read him with that).
Liger_Zero for me is "why would scum play like him" read. Yeah, yeah, it is a bad to assume that people play decently, but still.
Dann looks obvtown to me and he have been poked and jabbed by many people so maybe at least one scum joined the jabbing.

mcqueen I think it's just more 'special' than others.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Your last vote was on a town read as well, but you didn't complain about that?

First time it's fine
Second time it kinda hurts my ego you know

Is your L0 read based on him being too scummy to be scum sort, or he does some things that make him seem townie?

It's more like "if he's scum he is playing way too terribly."

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I don't know it's more like "people keep jabbing him but he's still doing his own thing." I'm bad with words.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Anyway 4468 is kinda why I decided to just sheep him today.

He did catch a scum Day 1 (peer pressure)
We haven't really give him chance to lead again (

Peer Pressure

)
My bottom-end of my reads are unstable (pulls back punches)
So if we let him lead for the entire Day 4 I think we can progress further than we did in Day 3 (

VERY MUCH PEER PRESSURE YES

)

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Also, xtxom also made efforts to express his desire to be lynched - with the intention of making it seem like he also didn't care if people lynched him. Not sure if he was in the lower part of your list or not, also is your list from towniest to least townie or in no particular order?

No particular order.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Um those RAS voter should be voting Liger_Zero, mod.

fixed, thanks.

-nsg

[Reiuji Utsuho]

@DDL

Anyway 4468 is kinda why I decided to just sheep him today.

He did catch a scum Day 1 (peer pressure)
We haven't really give him chance to lead again (

Peer Pressure

)
My bottom-end of my reads are unstable (pulls back punches)
So if we let him lead for the entire Day 4 I think we can progress further than we did in Day 3 (

VERY MUCH PEER PRESSURE YES

)

Stop voting town and join us

[Reiuji Utsuho]

i'm basically going to do nothing for a few days because i have higher priorities then I will go hard in this one and catch scums

not that this necessarily isn't scums but I want the best lynch today

What a turn off

[Reiuji Utsuho]

the douses in that case are probably Prince -> EE -> Me?

if that's the case then I'd think they would ignite n3, I can't think of a particular 4th that would warrant delaying unless they specifically doused someone like karmeleon or something

Me!

UNVOTE:

[Reiuji Utsuho]

dann, be the leader you were always meant to be.

dann, be the leader you were always meant to be.

okay by my leadership I say we sheep?? Prince today

dann, be the leader you were always meant to be.

okay by my leadership I say we sheep Prince today

A good leader knows when to follow. I like it.

I will follow ur example

Prince, what are we doing?

anyone else think this is SvS?

If I am tracking everyone's reads correctly, no one else does.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

This is a sorted case on me about why I am town.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I'm me?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Wait
Weren't you in my first game?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

The one and only.

Although seeing your name here kinda brings the trauma of that game back again...

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I don't know but the guy I wanted to sheep replaced out. I was kinda hinging on him to catch scum for me today.
Since you took his spot, naturally the job is yours instead.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Hey creature rank the slots

from scummiest to towniest

yawn okay

Creature
Extrapolated Eagle
Jingle
Dannflor
Xtoxm
RadiantCowbells
mcqueen
Vedith
Reiuji Utsuho
Liger_Zero
RAS
DrDolittle
Ankamius
MaxwellPuckett

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Assuming those are ranked list, explain to me why Ankamius is so low on the list?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I'm glad that I'm not on that end and doesn't need to effort. It is truly the benefit I have for being a new player without reputation!

[Reiuji Utsuho]

no, you're not. this is a good thing. this isn't about me this is about me feeling like you don't do shit as town anymore and me being sick of it. i miss old semi-carry creature.

Reminder that you are still carrying this day.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Ooh
I'll shush then.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

So many replacements X.X

[Reiuji Utsuho]

there's also a world where i'm just overthinking it and i haven't been pulling the trigger on the obvious scum slots like clem because everyone's overthinking it but

Clem is Max though.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

By the way I'm still keeping mcqueen on townlist for a gamble.
If I win I get to laugh at you all. If I lose I go down the trail of embarrassment.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Although, it's really the case of "literally everyone else is disagreeing with me so I must be wrong" for me I think.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I think I have this soft spot for terrible players X.X

[Reiuji Utsuho]

You did it yesterday and now today assuming you are right.

I was right on buj town though.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

If I had a definite answer to that I wouldn't have declared sheeping your slot today.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I can literally find reason for everyone to be town so I'm clearly doing something wrong here. And I won't know which until the game ends.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I guess I could go with DDL slot.

I still can't wrap my head around max town that much though because that means grape wagon D1 was all-town.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

RC is your mcqueen vote final?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I still want to know who is Reiuji?

If this is yet another "are you an alt account" question, then no I'm not an alt <_<

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I don't think we're looking for you to see something specific

We just need outside thoughts

You got a case for me to look at and dive into?

yes
the case is
ddl is town
the counter case is
ddl is scum

look at and dive into it

Stop killing people's mpotivation

[Reiuji Utsuho]

If I had a definite answer to that I wouldn't have declared sheeping your slot today.

Are you RE1031?

A who?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I have no interest in ending the day until RC declares the wagon as final.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

declares that the wagon is final*

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What if I never declare the wagon as final

Then I sigh, be very disappointed at you, and i dunno lead a wagon on max.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I still want to know who is Reiuji?

If this is yet another "are you an alt account" question, then no I'm not an alt <_<

but you're a figure from MU.

With literally the same name.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Hmm should I hammer for fun?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I still get to laugh if mcqueen is town though

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Bam bam batta boom

VOTE: mcqueen

[Reiuji Utsuho]

VOTE: Max

I would laugh, but I'm not in the mood to do so.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

McQueen had awful associatives and even though it was coincidence it was a lynch that had to happen

So let me be clear here.
Did you actually thought mcqueen was scum?
Y/N

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Ok.

Because there was going to be a storm if otherwise.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I feel kinda lost now to be honest.
Lynching my townreads for past two days didn't help either.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

My list basically didn't change since like Day 3.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

1. Prince of Renais
   
2. Extrapolated Eagle
   
3. Karmeleon
   
4. RAS
   
5. Ankamius
   
6. Jingle
   
7. mcqueen
   
8. Dannflor
   
9. Liger_Zero
   
10. Vedith

is what I have for my townlist.

That leaves DDL/xtoxm/Max but I don't kinda feel content with this PoE list? I don't feel like there would be 2 scums in this PoE list. So I think I'm wrong in one of my townlist.
From what I'm looking, basically everyone in the lower list of my reads have shown the "I don't care lynch me" attitude except for DDL. So clearly this is not the towntell in this game.
(Or maybe because only DDL showed the 'hey I don't want to be lynched,' that kinda makes him townish? I have no clue!)

I think Vedith replacing out shenanigan makes him kinda town (although it is unorthodox to read him with that).
Liger_Zero for me is "why would scum play like him" read. Yeah, yeah, it is a bad to assume that people play decently, but still.
Dann looks obvtown to me and he have been poked and jabbed by many people so maybe at least one scum joined the jabbing.

mcqueen I think it's just more 'special' than others.

It was this, basically.

I think if I'm wrong on Max it's or.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

VOTE: or

I can do this.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

For those Max-towners, please help me get my head around this.

Votecount 1.FINAL

grapes(9)

~ Reiuji Utsuho⁽⁷³⁾, Extrapolated Eagle⁽²³³⁾, Prince of Renais⁽¹³⁵⁾, Jingle⁽¹⁶⁵⁾, Alisae⁽¹⁴⁵⁾, Shoshin⁽¹⁶⁵⁾, NerfedBuJ⁽⁴³⁾, Clemency⁽¹³⁾, Lycanfire⁽²⁵⁾

-- HAMMER

NerfedBuJ(2)

~ Vedith⁽⁹⁰⁾, DrDolittle⁽⁴⁷⁾

Reiuji Utsuho(1)

~ mcqueen⁽²²⁾

Prince of Renais(1)

~ Xtoxm⁽²¹⁾

Extrapolated Eagle(1)

~ grapes⁽²¹⁾


Not Voting (3): Gamma Emerald⁽¹⁸⁾, Dannflor⁽¹⁵⁵⁾, Karmeleon⁽³³⁾

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I don't think the grapes wagon is all town btw

This was literally the one reason I've been putting Max in scumpile even when basically everyone else was telling me that I'm wrong.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I think I can't not do a reread at this point, which is the moment I've been secretly dreading for, with 246 flipping pages.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Ugh I gotta actually

READ

all the Enter posts??
The mere though of it is filling me with

determination

pain.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Something I do on rereads is take people who have particularly large post counts or who are particularly difficult to read and I assume they're town and then read the thread based around that assumption. After doing so, I go back and read the individual players by themselves. This might help a bit.

Do not tempt me you foul lizard

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Alisae - I try to put this slot on townslot, but every time I try to do so, I get this weird gut pain.

Hmm

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Oh

I think I finally found why my gut twitched back then.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

About Ali I have a bunch of mixed feelings that I'm sorting out rn. But they definitly gave their town read on me "Too early" for my liking. They even said it was too early afterward but I have a hard time digesting it. Waiting for more context from ali tbh.

before I read anything gun to head what am I?

pedit: You're cute ali. As I said mixed feelings. The gun on your head is not helping.

Alisae is likely to be scum this game.

Strongly disagree
Disagree
maybe
eeeeeh
agree
strongly agree

where u at

who do you want dead?

also btw there's no neutrality in that case in this case eeeeh is moreso leaning towards teh town side but the weaker side of town.
Sorry if that wasn't clear, if this changes things you should probably state so.

What do you remember about my scum meta?

VOTE: Frozen Angel

These were Alisae's initiate to start sorting Frozen Angel. Now that I look at them, they actually look kinda forced, asking for a read on self when e barely posted anything substantial before.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Hmm, would grapes bus during Day 1?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I concede re first point then. I think I might've missed some posts while reading. Although

FA asks for the same from ali. :/

Do you not see the difference between that and the other?
When FA asked Ali for reads, it was like, natural.
It was not when Ali asked her read on self.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Ok, screw this, I'm going with my guts.

Xtoxm is town, and so is Clem/Max.

Finished. Done. No going back. No regret.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I almost forgot that weird push grapes did to xtoxm with that weird past game shenanigans.
I don't think that's how scum bus his partner.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I think Ali's pointed desire to read the FA slot makes that post seem natural
and as someone who has played with FA before I understand the importance of sorting her early

I never played with her before. Therefore your view may contain some sort of bias, but I can guarantee that mine does not.
Therefore I win.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I feel surprisingly enlightened right now and I don't know why.
But I like this feeling.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Imagine you're living in a world where you're dead wrong (otherwise known to the rest of us as reality), where do you do then?

You make it sounds like that wasn't the case since Day 2.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

xtoxm's was also p fake, tbh

How competent is grapes?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I think Alisae's scumbuddy was clemency actually

I hate you

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Liger why am I town

I think you're literally the only player in the game who hasn't been paranoid of me at some point

Watashi

[Reiuji Utsuho]

RU- the lost post 5845, then the talk about having to reread, but then gut towning 2 people just a few posts later. And a lot of what looks like fluff posting.

I stopped my reread when I got what I wanted to achieve. Honestly, I'm glad that happened too. I was not thrilled of reading Enter posts again. Also those two reads that I guttowned.... has a very long history.

Fluffposting is literally what keeps me in this game. I will go insane if I'm denied of that.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

This game hardcounters how I approach games.
And I hate it.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

UNVOTE:

This is Shoshin v2

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Thats three times in a row you did something opposite immediately after I said something :/

[Reiuji Utsuho]

But then like I'm really weak to AtE, as this game is teaching me.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl

[Reiuji Utsuho]

But if I use logic I would vote you again for 6645

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Who are you voting atm

[Reiuji Utsuho]

It wont.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

VOTE: FF

[Reiuji Utsuho]

This game hardcounters how I approach games.
And I hate it.

How do you approach games?
Other than fluffposting?

Do you think RC could be scum?

There was a moment in Day 4 (well, actually, pretty much all Day 4) that I was paranoid, but no.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

UNVOTE:

This is Shoshin v2

Why?

What are the similarities?

I decided to stop ignoring my inner conscience and accept that things he've posted today is from town. That was what my mindset was during D2 as well, except for tuat I did not accept it then.

I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl
I must not use logic to read ddl

Why not?

See above

VOTE: FF

I need some stream of consciousness from u when u get the chance

Literally this whole day was that for me so

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Actually hold on just a minute.
Did I really post fluffs that much to warrant to hear "Rei's posts have been mostly fluff?"
Brb checking my own posts.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

...ok I barely posted fluffs
Whoever said that I mostly fluffposted the entire time
From my bottom of my heart, screw you.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I see.

To be straight, you have the same feeling about DDL that you had about Shoshin, and that is the limit to the similarities in the push for either of their lynches?

Former, yes.
Latter, I have no idea what you are saying.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What are you not showing me?

I have intentionally hid all my paranoias for this game, but that shouldn't affect anything?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Nah
I'm not afraid to be direct about my insults.
I legit don't remember who said that to me.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Dunno.
I can only hope for the best though.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Oh yeah Dann.
I think he's just simply town here too.
But then I never understood the paranoia on him in the first place.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

How do you approach games?

I was talking about how I sort people.
And that... is my trade secret!

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What does this mean?

That means "I" in Japanese.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What Enter posts?
What do you mean by your first paragraph here?

I was just poking fun at you.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Am I wrong to state that FF is your only real scum read at this point?

Nah you're not wrong, as much as I hate to admit it.
I have few people that my read oscillate at the rate of 1.3 kHz.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What is the relevance to the situation quoted?

I basically townread Dann the entire time too, so

[Reiuji Utsuho]

No I think Liger is town.
And it's one of my read that is not oscillating.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

But then, I'm not really trusting my non-solid-townreads and mostly relying on other's reads because as I said this game counters me.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

This is truly a terrible game for my second game :[

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Is it weird if I'm constantly wishing my reads to be proven wrong?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What reads?

Well just about all of my non-solid reads that I'm townreading time to time.
It's kinda hard for me to reanalyze things without being wrong on something.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I feel sorry for you if you are finding this game more interesting than a birthday party.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I don't know. I've never been in birthday parties before.
I don't bother to go and I just pass my birthday quietly.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Is it sad that creatures boring birthday party is more interesting than the game atm

No that's normal.
Creature is weird that he finds this game more interesting than any other things.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

CFD about now would be fun.
I just don't know who.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

It would be hilarious if I hammer here despite my read on him.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

btw if Liger flips town I'm leading tomorrow.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

So far, I have two laugh-at-people stocks. Will I gain a third one or will it reset?
Only a next vote can tell.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I have zero idea right now why we are not lynching from grapes wagon.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

rei why don't you lead right now

Because I'd rather not.
And I still like to think that I'm wrong somewhere.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Why would I counter that?

UNVOTE: or

This is Shoshin v2

[Reiuji Utsuho]

No?
I should be voting FF right now actually.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Oh. I should be voting FF.

Which means if he ever reached L-1, then he would be actually lynched right now.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Darn.
It would've been really hilarious if he reached L-1.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I think Liger is gonna flip town and I have no clue why we are not lynching from grapes wagon when it literally has the most chance of netting scum.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

FormerFish.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Although I'm already voting FormerFish right now the vote counter counted my vote towards or so I'm going to revote.

VOTE: FormerFish

[Reiuji Utsuho]

FF is possibly scum because I was never particularly convinced on Alisae - ey only once really made any attempt at a push and then it was never much at all, some of the ways he says and does things makes me uncomfortable but over all that slot has done relatively townie things.

Hop on. We're CFDing FF.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Alright walk me through why scum is on grapes and if we think scum is on grapes why we aren't lynching mp who doesn't believe scum is on grapes

Why are you even asking me this when you scumread two of the people in grapes wagon?
Because I want this one. I want a flip that I do

not

townread for once so I can clear my head.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

But if we lynch liger we don't have to deal with him anymore

I have no problem dealing with him.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Like can I please not have my townreads lynched three days in a row?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

If you ask me why I think Liger is town, my answer is "I disagree with that his posts look forced."

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I'm terrible as scum. I'm possibly the worst scum player in the history of the world but xtoxm thinks I'm legit good scum because in 2059 I played like liver. I was snarky a lot of the time and I white knighted everyone

1. You != Liger
2. Sure, he

could

be scum snarking. I simply don't think so.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

1. so? what's ur point

Something that might be easy for you might be hard for him. Who knows? Assuming self playstyle to be equal to others is not a good method in general anyway.

2. why not?

Because I think so? Like, this part is literally "disagree if you must, but I think this."

[Reiuji Utsuho]

The change in personality doesn't make snark difficult to fake. If you can snark as town, why would it be difficult to snark as scum? O_O

For an example, one can easily hyperpost naturally as town and yet can not do that as scum without looking forced.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

But I can't work with "I just think so."

That was intended.

I don't want to get into argument with my townread. It builds needless frustration for me.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I mean this is enough to lynch him really.

VOTE: Formerfish

This wagon is scummy as fuck. This guy is scummy as fuck for this vote. Dann can get it as well with a side of scattered, topped and chunked hash browns.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

Ok, then let's go back to the original discussion.
Can you put aside your hate and vote FF for me? :3

[Reiuji Utsuho]

*sigh*

What discussion?

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What was the first game you played in?

It was in MU. It was a terrible game.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

I could link you the game but I and RadiantCowbells do not want to remember that game again.

[Reiuji Utsuho]

What was the first game you played in?

It was in MU. It was a terrible game.

Alright.

I think FF could be scum.
I'll vote him but only if you sell me both of your laughing rights.

You

monster

You are asking for my only reason to stay in this game that I achieved with my own blood and tears.