Mini Normal 2066: Catloaves [Game Over!]

Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:22 am

I wouldn't be upset.

Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:55 pm

Oooh...interesting.

Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:48 am

In post 811, ChibiBear wrote:VOTE COUNT 1.14
GrandWazoo (6):
PenguinPower, Elsa Jay, u r a person 2
, Alacrity, nomnomnom,
themilkcartonkid
LYNCH
Elsa Jay (2): Not_Mafia,
GrandWazoo

Eragon (1): Locke113
Not_Mafia (1): rosterfoster

Not Voting (1): Eragon

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-03-31 11:00:00)

In post 1098, ChibiBear wrote:
VOTE COUNT 2.03
themilkcartonkid
(5): Eragon,
PenguinPower
, nomnomnom, Not_Mafia, rosterfoster
LYNCH

Eragon
(2): Locke113,
themilkcartonkid

Not Voting
(2):
Elsa Jay
, Alacrity

With
9
alive, it takes
5
to lynch.

Day 2 ends in
(expired on 2019-04-13 15:00:00)

Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:48 am

I think NM should be the lynch for today.

Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:50 am

Decent scum equity in roster though.

Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:07 am

Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:11 am

Do you have a preference of which one?

Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:20 am

In post 1115, rosterfoster wrote:Do you not think we’d make NM quickhammer instead?

And come on it wasn’t a quickhammer - we’d considered a lot. You’re rewriting what happens.

It's not just a quickhammer - which it was - but were you pushing Eragon (and me) right up until you dropped a naked hammer on milk. That's gross.

I want NM before you because he should never make it to what may be LyLo tomorrow. He's scum because of his D1 dance around GW and participation in milk lynch D2.

Still want Alacrity to do his stuff.

Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:34 am

In post 1120, rosterfoster wrote:He had claimed, and I was believing the push on him. I don’t think I needed to claim intent there.

Yeah but it it was coordinated we’re a team together - I’d argue that the fact that I hammered means we’re not buddies. IDK how to actually read NM, so IDK on his comment.

I'm not saying you are tied together.

It's not about claiming intent. You didn't provide any reason why you shifted your push from Eragon to milk. You didn't state that you were leaning toward hammering. You just hammered. You see how that comes across as scummy?

Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:42 am

Tell me why Eragon is scum without referencing his "slip."

Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:45 am

Your sole case on Eragon's slot is the "slip?"

Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:48 am

Then why say "I can't" instead of "Case coming later?"

What are your thoughts on Locke?

Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:57 am

In post 1135, rosterfoster wrote:Because the slip is quite important to that slot?

I talked about Locke before. He’ s town.

Really? Because your entire ISO - from what I see - is about how he is scum - possibly a traitor - tied to GW. Could you point out to me where you analyzed him and found him to be town?

Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:18 pm

Just an FYI: I'm prodging until Alacrity, Locke, Eragon and NM do stuff today.

Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:27 pm

prodge

Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:35 pm

He's been on site since day start - I assume he's flaking at this point.

Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:53 pm

VOTE: NM

This game died.

Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:18 pm

In post 1164, Not_Mafia wrote:I’m town

Sorry you haven't acted like it. Your D1 dance around GW was bad and that's the only way I know how to read you.

Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:02 pm

In post 1167, Eragon wrote:also xenoblade 2 grinding is pogchamp

You're late to the game...literally.

Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:04 pm

I could vote roster...but if we're wrong that makes Lylo more difficult.

I'm cursed by the fact that I don't have strong town reads.

Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:03 pm

Doesn't help.

Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:29 pm

In post 1201, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1196, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1195, Ankamius wrote:Kinda interesting to me that you shaded my deductions while basing your own around a singular point in the game

But sure I'll look anyways when I can
That's not what I was saying.

I'm saying that you are missing critical elements for your deductions. That's fairly obvious when you do not understand why Roster and N_M are put on the forefront today.
I don't understand why it's those two because roster is pretty town and n_m is an easy scumread to have

Would you mind pointing out to me why roster and nm are town? Specifically.

Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:06 pm

Can't even get decent wagons going today...

Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:26 am

In post 1216, Ankamius wrote:roster is not playing to a scum win condition
not_mafia is the black sheep of this game

Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:39 am

You're proposing that we bring a basically unreadable slot with a bad vote record (weren't you the one that said you need to judge him based on flips...yeah, you were) into potential mylo/lylo.

How do you reconcile that being good for today or tomorrow or ever really?

Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:53 am

Sure...you were voting GW until his lynch D1 became a reality and you hopped to Elsa. Off scum lynch.

You actually did have a good L-1 vote on Eragon (I only say good because you took away the lolhammer from yourself) but then switched to milk for god knows why. On town lynch.

Great voting record, cow.

Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:26 am

In terms of?

Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:32 am

I don't know. That's a fairly broad question given we had a goon flip (and so don't know scum power at all) and there are multiple different ways to balance.

If you want to discuss PRs it's probably better to just massclaim given we're the day before lylo if we don't hit scum.

Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:28 am

In post 1227, PenguinPower wrote:I don't know. That's a fairly broad question given we had a goon flip (and so don't know scum power at all) and there are multiple different ways to balance.

To further my point, here are all of the 10-12p setups back to 1752:

Spoiler:

Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:38 am

In post 1235, Eragon wrote:i dont have a problem with this

it would prevent opposing claims tomorrow

Everyone else okay with this?

Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:39 am

In post 1236, Ankamius wrote:On second thought, I don't have the energy to fight this

VOTE: Not_Mafia

You going to clarify why your question was important before dropping it completely and voting a town read?

Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:44 am

In post 1241, Ankamius wrote:Because it's easier for me to read into the game when I have an idea off what the scumteam looks like numbers wise

How does asking me that question help you?

Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:47 am

UNVOTE:

Want to wait and see everyone else's opinion on mass claim.

Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:49 am

In post 1243, Ankamius wrote:I wanted to know roughly what towns current flipped power level would equate to it

I still don't see why you asked me specifically and no one else. Why was my answer important?

Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:44 pm

*sigh*

If people could be engaged it would really help sort.

Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:40 am

In post 1252, rosterfoster wrote:I’ll kick the massclain off - VT.

I mean - that's not how we do this but, yes, you would have been up in order.

Roster > NM > Locke > Ankamius > Nom > Eragon > me

is my preferred order.

Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:52 am

Scum to town. I prefer the scummiest to claim first so they don't have a greater chance of pulling off a fake claim like they would if they were later in the order.

I believe Eragon's already claimed so we could actually just remove him entirely.

Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:02 am

Ankamius

Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:15 am

In post 1259, nomnomnom wrote:that's very little concession room lol

Anyway, I obviously agree with the first two, the rest of the list is somewhat debatable imo but I believe the two first claims to be the most important anyway.

Sorry, I thought you were asking for one person.

Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:19 am

Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:09 am

Town Jailkeeper - full, ungated. That's the reason why I didn't believe milk's claim - didn't think town would have both a disloyal RB and a Jailkeeper.

N1 - jailed nom^3
N2 - jailed Ankamius

So, if we're in a 2 scum or 2 scum w/traitor setup, both of them are clear. That doesn't clear them now...only if a traitor flips or we make it past tomorrow without a red flip.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:01 am

No, but it’s usually good to lock in claims before lylo.

VOTE: nm

Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:21 am

Thought one of you might be scum who would take the shot due to how GW’s wagon developed and subsequent flips.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:25 am

It’s just obnoxious at this point, nm.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:26 am

That’s typically how a jailkeeper works. Yes.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:29 am

That’s a gross post.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:33 am

What are you on about? I used it to try and block the scum kill.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:39 am

Um...I didn’t block townreads at the time...

In post 1286, PenguinPower wrote:Thought one of you might be scum who would take the shot due to how GW’s wagon developed and subsequent flips.

As to # of scum left, that’s why I outted who I checked and provided the caveat in which they are clear.

I get the feeling you aren’t really reading.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:49 am

I didn’t townread you for the reasons I mentioned but the fact that you could have been town to others made it more likely you would be the one to take the shot.

You’re reinforcing my point.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:51 am

It’s possible. There’s enough town power.

Read through the archive I listed.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:03 am

Calling that out seems like you’re lining up a lynch. Hence gross post.

If town, you should have kept that to yourself until tomorrow.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:19 am

Unlike you, I’d prefer not to provide a roadmap for scum.

I would evaluate based on the flips from today/night.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:22 am

NM...who do you want to lynch today?

Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:03 am

Sorry - what has changed to remove roster from your towncore?

Walk me through this.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:08 am

Walk me through the D1 movements that make you suspect roster and locke, because I think NM's movements around the GW wagon were pretty bad.

p-edit

I agree with the first point which is why I'm somewhat ok saying that the D1 lynch on scum could be all town.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:11 pm

I'm glad people are realizing why I think NM and roster are scum.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:12 pm

Or, maybe, expressing why is a better way to say that.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:13 pm

Eh, both work.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:16 pm

In post 820, Eragon wrote:if anyone really wants me to analyze how alacrity is confirmed town, i will

It would be cool if you did this btw. Not sure how I missed it earlier.

I keep having gut issues with the GW wagon being all town, and given posts today by Ank, this would help ease my mind.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:21 pm

In post 1332, Eragon wrote:I definitely see reasons that N_M could be town, as i've expressed earlier, although he has been getting grating recently.

You don't see NM's voting around the GW wagon to seem bad for him?

Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:25 pm

I don't think they're confirmed scum. I also don't think they hammer tested anything so if you could point that out, that would be great.

I think it looks bad coupled with the fact that a slot with as little content in possible lylo is bad.

Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:40 pm

357 Was 3rd vote on
Locke took it to L-2 in 373
Roster to L-1 in 386
NM fakehammered in 395
N fakehammered again in 611 as a response to a prod

And the wagon dispersed (roster, locke notably).

NM stayed on until I started to get the GW wagon going again at EOD. Then he hopped off onto Elsa once it hit 4 votes.

Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:54 am

In post 1352, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm here, lynch someone

Who do you want to lynch?

I've asked this already.

Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:40 am

In post 1360, Ankamius wrote:Is it worth bothering to case

Because I'll outright case Locke if I have to but I won't bother if everyone is going to be like nom

My preference is NM for my reasons outlined earlier. I could be swayed if your case on Locke is better than NM's dance around the GW wagon + not wanting to take the slot into Lylo.

Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:08 am

I'm with nom atm.

Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:09 am

In post 1389, Ankamius wrote:you understand that with a scum lynch, penguinpower becomes a cop, right?

How is this helpful in the conversation going on atm?

Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:28 am

Well - if he's not even going to say who he wants to lynch today I'm not moving.

Why did you have to read NM's games when you were previously able to comment on him via your experience?

Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:44 am

Jailing Locke tonight if NM flips scum btw.

If he flips town, I'm not telling you who I'm jailing.

Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:47 am

NM is lynched, bird.

Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:07 pm

Glad you were around at EOD, Eragon. Super helpful of you.

Locke posted more post hammer than he did the past two days*

*I didn't actually check so may not be true but seems to be true ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:09 pm

Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:10 pm

Locke...if NM flips scum, who should I jail?

Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:17 pm

Just wanted to get your take.

I'm jailing you.

Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:17 pm

^
if NM is scum

Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:33 am

In post 1667, rosterfoster wrote:I think it's immoral to replace out fro strategic reasons. `just don't do that in the future, please? <3

It's against site rules to do that.

It's also now against site rules to make a post like 189.

Good job, Eragon, turning the slot around. Nice move with the intentional scumslip - that got you totally off my radar.

Wish nom had made that kill N1...