Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

[Creature]

My hope is that the day won't end so soon.

[Creature]

@Creature, What are you doing?

School stuff.

[Creature]

Egix is at L-2?

[Creature]

It makes me paranoid how difficult you seem to be to lynch though.

I'm the resistance.

There are also the lurkers and Egix.

[Creature]

Create alts, reveal them and then claim self-meta with them.

Isn't that something 90%+ of the alt users do?

[Creature]

whereas I'm inactive on this account for just a few days & then I'm under high pressure the rest of the game no matter what I do.

I can relate to this, on MU.

[Creature]

So why are we not massclaiming yet?

idk, I'm mostly interested on lynching scum rn.

[Creature]

so far eyes would be my prime lynch candidate

We were assuming he was copped though.

[Creature]

so far eyes would be my prime lynch candidate

We were assuming he was copped though.

wait do you know that or are you just guessing

RC said something something Eyes should be copped something something.

[Creature]

If Egix claims cop now one scum can quickhammer him to trade.

[Creature]

If he's claiming someone should unvote.

[Creature]

I think the last doc should claim.

[Creature]

Oh though, I'm now afraid the doc is one of the peeks.

[Creature]

Egix town
Nips town
pops town
Me town

leaves
Eyes, Shoshin, Titus, Clemency, Iconeum

[Creature]

really would be cool if the last doc was among the PoE so we could win from here just by assuming I'm town.

[Creature]

Lynching a claimed cop based on that is not worth the risk.

[Creature]

Alright, fine.

I claim cop with a guilty on Egix & Titus.

Please lynch them.

was pretty obvious you would counterclaim here.

[Creature]

I think we lynch Titus and have the real cop get another result (or not).

[Creature]

Should I vote Egix or Titus? Actually, it makes sense to me that they're both scum with Clemency

We vote Titus and then both cops either get to claim a new result tomorrow or the real cop dies and we lynch the other.

[Creature]

Even if we assume Egix is the real cop, Titus is in the PoE and the least sortable out of that PoE.

[Creature]

Creature, how can you still think Egix is possibly town? Please stretch your mind, it's not functioning well at the moment.

I just want to take the safety measures and there's also the possibility scum will spare you for another result.

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

[Creature]

Yes, I lied. Get over it.

Yeh, man. Still Egix is an uncc'ed cop.

[Creature]

IF THERE IS ANOTHER COP, YOU MUST CC TODAY.

^

[Creature]

It's pretty likely scum will hit the cop tonight anyway even if it isn't Egix.

[Creature]

More that not counterclaiming Egix today will likely screw town up today.

[Creature]

Eyes, Shoshin, Clemency, Titus left

Not considering you yet.

[Creature]

I think it's Eyed Shoshin and Clemency

[Creature]

Clemency seemed to be softdefending Shoshin

[Creature]

Whatever, fuck this

VOTE: Egix

[Creature]

Also, really.

Stop pulling gambits that obviously won't work.

[Creature]

This game pisses me off.

[Creature]

Oh right, that was a hammer.

[Creature]

That's all I'm saying for the rest of the game.

-_-

[Creature]

Shoshin, if you're town, who else is scum alongside Egix and Titus?

[Creature]

lmao

[Creature]

Icon's obvtown & shouldn't ever be lynched.

Okay, gonna trust this

[Creature]

Me town
Eyes town
Icon town

in-between: Clemency, pops, Emperor

Titus scum
Egix scum

[Creature]

This game is still pretty amusing.

[Creature]

Atleast we get two scum in a row.

[Creature]

I'll probably blacklist everyone in this game except Eyes & the scum.

I didn't try to lynch you at any point today though.

[Creature]

Hi pops, you there?

[Creature]

Hate how players go quiet after a mislynch.

[Creature]

Can we lynch Egix now?

[Creature]

Also, popsofctown, I'm seeing you online.

I recommend you to unvote atleast.

[Creature]

Titus is still a guilty though

[Creature]

tbh I can do both

If players prefer to do Titus, I can hop in

[Creature]

VOTE: Titus

[Creature]

even if this is wrong, we still have three clears, one outed scum and plenty of obvtown for tomorrow.

[Creature]

Shoshin if you are actually the cop you play this very very very poorly. Don't try to pull your 'everyone else is terrible' crap. You managed to convince a bunch of town players you can't be the cop lol.

YOU HAD A FUCKING GUILTY. You let town go round in circles, while we could be working with COP CONFIRMED information? We could be spending our time lynching ACTUAL scum and looking for his buddies, but you choose to sow chaos and confusion probably just because you don't wanna eat a bullet?

/rant over

I didn't have a guilty on Titus.

-_-

[Creature]

That's three innocents for two nights though

[Creature]

Screw that

I don't plan to lynch any of them this game anyway.

[Creature]

If Titus is town I'm afraid we may lose.

[Creature]

Actually not if Shoshin is scum

We'd still be in a fairly good spot

[Creature]

Titus is scum, Creature.

Yeh, she seems to be scum hammered.

[Creature]

It's pointless for the doctor to claim.

[Creature]

I was thinking about lynching scum not Egix today.

[Creature]

However I think trying to scumhunt with outed scum around doesn't help though.

[Creature]

After the tree-stump scum in starcraft mafia it doesn't seem that bad really.

Because you wouldn't feel bad for not lynching them.

[Creature]

Are you gonna lolcat too?

[Creature]

I'm also a shitposter, but shitposting without any content feels like a waste of time.

[Creature]

Eyes, Ico and I are all town and we're not questioning that. I trust Shoshin here.

[Creature]

Also tbh the minimal NK knowledge looks bullshit.

[Creature]

Shoshin doesn't get that convicted I am town when I'm scum.

[Creature]

I also think the doctor should claim rn.

[Creature]

Zzzzzz

[Creature]

Oh, Clemency siteflaked.

[Creature]

idk

[Creature]

I wanted to sort some stuff before putting my stance.

[Creature]

Oh, Iconeum is older than I thought.

[Creature]

I think I'm back to being the only toddler left in the game (besides Clemency who siteflaked).

[Creature]

It's in my profile.

[Creature]

I started at 14.

And I think I lost quality.

[Creature]

Around high school would of been cool.

Not really. Late middle school maybe.

[Creature]

You only get four years to build your fame though.

[Creature]

Mafia is more fun if you play without an ego.

My ego is like my only motivation to keep playing mafia.

[Creature]

[Creature]

I'm waiting for Clemency's replacement before I say anything.

[Creature]

Skygazer is towny af, I think it's between Krazy and Elsa Jay.

[Creature]

-_-

[Creature]

So hows it going godmid?

[Creature]

We would like to speed up.

[Creature]

That would be a drag.

[Creature]

tbh I have a PoE pretty much down to two.

[Creature]

I have my worries, but I really want Godmid to actually do something.

[Creature]

I want to end the game today, not LyLo.

[Creature]

Oh man

[Creature]

town!Pops is more likely then town!Creature

Are you kidding?

[Creature]

I have an innocent on Icon, Eyes, and Creature, though.

We're following this btw.

I am willing to not ever reconsider Iconeum because I think that's what Shoshin deserves atleast.

[Creature]

Also it's gonna suck less if one of us turns to be scum.

But it's really gonna suck if you decide to lynch one of us, we flip town and we lose the game that is practically won.

[Creature]

It can only be Godmid or popsofctown.

[Creature]

I'm having a hard time picking up anything to scumread RC

doesn't mean a townread.

Also usually town does lot of scummy things but also oozes town elsewhere. So that should be a red flag.

[Creature]

If Buki later does something that makes her effectively unlynchable, there isn't any point in me keeping her as a suspect and it makes my job easier if I can eliminate a player from the PoE.

You can also eliminate me from the PoE by trusting Shoshin who sacrificed herself and was locktowning me along Iconeum.

[Creature]

-After reading through the thread, I think that I am willing to risk the game on town!RC

And this is how you lose a game.

[Creature]

-After reading through the thread, I think that I am willing to risk the game on town!RC
-You all seem willing to risk the game on town!Buki and I trust your guyses judgement.

Yeh, we have fundamented reads and gone through them a lot. I think you just have read the thread but that's not enough.

[Creature]

:claps:
FMPOV if it's not you it's Creature.

Yep yep yep

wtf Emperor

[Creature]

Ugh, okay, whatever, RC doesn't look bad on a skim read.

[Creature]

A lynch has occurred.

Votecount 4.1

Egix96 (4)

- popsofctown, Emperor flippyNips, Eyes without a face, Iconeum

Creature (1)

- Egix96

Not Voting (2) - Creature, Clemency

Spoiler: Flip

Welcome,

Egix96

. You are a

Mafia Goon

, along with your partners,

[redacted]

and

[redacted]

.

Abilities

• Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partners here: [redacted].
  
• Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partners may perform the factional kill.

Win Condition

• You win when all members of the town have been eliminated or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

The game thread is here. Good luck and have fun!

[/spoiler][/quote]

Eyes without a face has died Night 4.

Spoiler: Flip

Welcome,

Eyes without a face

, you are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities

• Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.

Win Condition

• You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Good luck and have fun!

[/spoiler][/quote]
This is strange though.

[Creature]

Clemency had siteflaked around the night time and idk how he could've killed Eyes unless it was pre-set before night.

[Creature]

I know this is cheating, but it's not something I can easily ignore.

[Creature]

1) I respect Shoshin, but 2971 clearly wasn't based off of night actions and I really don't follow at all how that is supposed to clear you.

It's not supposed to be a mechanical clear, but it's supposed to be a "trust me".

Also, Shoshin is pretty good, so trusting her at Iconeum and me being town, even if that wasn't a real result, is reasonable.

[Creature]

Shoshin is at least bad enough at mafia to participate in a mislynch d2.

There's a big difference between misscumreading someone and mistownreading someone.

Misscumreading happens often, mistownreading not as often (unless you try to townread everyone).

Also, Shoshin really seemed willing to bet the game on Iconeum and me being town and she's usually a good player, so gotta take that into consideration.

[Creature]

Asking people to just stop forming opinions and replace their opinions with stronger players' is asinine.

Yeh man, but my opinion tells me to sheep Shoshin's opinion and my opinion also tells me we should follow Shoshin.

Like, we just outed her as the cop to lynch Titus and Egix. We should atleast credit her reads.

[Creature]

You seem more and more like you're trying to vindicate a misread from Shoshin and ride it to endgame rather than legimately having a concern that discarding any of Shoshin's high confidence reads would harm our winrate.

I don't know what you're trying to say.

Obviously I'd be pretty insistent on locktowning Emperor, Icon and me because that'd win us the game.

Also it annoys me that I scumread your slot now but there seems to have players who have barely read anything willing to bet the game on RC being town.

[Creature]

Clemency did have logins on site after he flaked so he could have sent in a night action.

Day 28? Day 29? Day 30?

[Creature]

So, I guess thanks for the angleshooty help

Oh right, I'm your most viable 1v1 now.

[Creature]

VOTE: pops

[Creature]

Mod

We need deadline extensions because Iconeum was fucking V/LA and that'd be unfair for town if the deadline was kept the same.

[Creature]

I think her results were Eyes town N1 and Titus scum N2.

[Creature]

She already got pretty mad when we forced her to "out". Lynching inside the three players list she basically told to never lynch will make things even worse.

[Creature]

idk why you are playing to the win condition "make Shoshin happy"

because we'd only have to worry about Godmid and you and we have enough lynches to clear that up.

[Creature]

Also you seem to be working the most towards opening an extra mislynch you need to win the game.

[Creature]

I'd say if I am lynched today you and only you should go down tomorrow, but if town isn't willing to listen to Shoshin post mortem, I doubt town will listen to me post mortem.

[Creature]

I have a bad feeling about that.

[Creature]

Godmid doesn't look any survivalistic.

I think him and I are just mislynched lined up.

[Creature]

Loooks like creature first

If I'm going down today pops is going down tomorrow.

[Creature]

The person that replaced RC tried to get a wagon started on Egix from what saw before pop came in soooo

but was quick to hop on Dr Worm.

[Creature]

Plenty of times I tried to push a wagon on Egix, but instead it was diverted elsewhere.

[Creature]

Egix town

Nips town
pops town
Me town

leaves
Eyes, Shoshin, Titus, Clemency, Iconeum

You were throwing shade his way all up until this point. What was going thru your mind right here?
Also. You threw shade & had voted him once up until this point.

Oh right, that was when Egix claimed cop.

I was pushing him way before that.

[Creature]

It's fucking annoying because there's literally onl four slots playing.

[Creature]

Solution: if someone's not going to play for more than five days (for a reason or not), they should just be replaced and no questions asked.

[Creature]

Whatever, let's not nolynch

VOTE: Creature

[Creature]

Just lynch pops tomorrow.

[Creature]

I take no responsibility if I am wrong considering I should've just been locktowned.

[Creature]

Mod

Force-replace Iconeum out of the game or I am taking this to the listmod.

[Creature]

I think Creature is more using it to escape a terribly moderated/participated game.

lolwhat?

[Creature]

I would like just take the win by waiting the day to end in a nolynch.

[Creature]

Though yeah, this game is pretty much unplayable by now.

[Creature]

I'd VOTE: game abandon

[Creature]

It's not mod's fault, it's just that the level of inactivity and apathy this game is just too damn high for any of the sides to ever deserve a win or even have a fun game.

[Creature]

Could you explain how selfhammering as town helps the town?

Better than a nolynch.

Also scum won't selfhammer anyway, so town will have to go down today to reduce PoE tomorrow.

[Creature]

If you think I am gambiting scum, then just hammer.

However if it ends in a nolynch because you decided to not hammer, then in honor you should refrain from ever lynching me the next day because I gave you the opportunity to not nolynch and you refused.

[Creature]

I'll consider this a draw.

[Creature]

can't say town deserved to win because D1 and D2 lynches were terrible.

[Creature]

Well, now it's a definite abandon.

[Creature]

Creature's point about how unlikely it is that Clemency submitted a NK as he siteflaked is kind of gamekilling and yucky

One of the reasons I called for a game abandon.

[Creature]

Just couldn't ignore that.

[Creature]

Even if mod waited for a replacement, likely it would've been another week long night.

[Creature]

People say Creature is very easy to townread when he is town.
This game was maybe anomalous in that some people weren't townreading him because they weren't reading the game at all.

After Shoshin died there were only meh players that can't read anyone.

[Creature]

I don't really get Wizzerd lynch, that didn't make sense to me at all.

Me neither

It has been RC overreacting and something, but The Wizard was painfully obvious town.

[Creature]

I think modkill sometimes is the only solution. I think then there should have some sortof compensation for the harmed team.

[Creature]

It's technically already over as pops outed.

[Creature]

She'll get over it eventually.

[Creature]

She'll get over it eventually.

No, I wont. You called to abandon a won game. I'm never playing with you again. Do not join my games.

It's a game that was pretty much compromised considering Godmid was gonna be cleared due slot being empty during the night.

[Creature]

Lynch Godmid.

Go into LYLO with you, Icon, and Pops.

Play the game out.

The day was gonna end in a nolynch though.

[Creature]

lol I'm thinking this game was mod abandoned anyway

[Creature]

lol I'm thinking this game was mod abandoned anyway

[Creature]

Anyway, I wasn't gonna continue to play a game nobody else is playing, hence why I just voted game abandonement.

[Creature]

Yeah, we didn't play very well yet this game still felt pretty winnable considering the cop and the doctors.