Krazy's Anime Upick (Game Over)

[jjh927]

I have not taken an action thus far this game, and I am aligned with the town

I'll give you no more

[jjh927]

Alchemist and Cafe

Growing less sure on Cafe tbh so Panzer might just take the 3 spot but it's not like it matters because I really don't want to lynch anyone other than FL or Alch today

[jjh927]

Are you aware of what FL claimed earlier? I was mostly ignoring it because it's FL but if it's coming into serious play now then he should be really obvious scum to anyone.

He's 100% scum anyway though because scum!FL has gotta be rid of me at some point but thinks he can mislynch me, which is why he pulled that wishywashy bullshit eod 3 to try and get me lynched while i wasn't there- though I think he actually contradicted himself (seriously need some explanation on that one before I press). Then he quickhammered town the next day, and now he's "guilty"ing me. It's not gonna work because I have the whole day and nothing to do with it, hence I am posting

[jjh927]

Yeah I thought that, then I looked back at it and it's very "or something"

[jjh927]

lmao I wasn't

[jjh927]

You target anyone else any other nights?

[jjh927]

There are so many holes in your claim it's unbelievable

[jjh927]

That said, due to the amount of shit you claim that you just retract later, could you give a more detailed claim as to what you are actually claiming right now in this second so I can explain why it's a shitty fakeclaim

[jjh927]

Right now, the pressing holes and questions are:

-How much of your old claims are you going to be reaffirming and how much are you gonna retract?
-You're claiming to have a functionally 3p wincon that includes the town wincon but is harder than it which is frankly obvious scum!boon fakeclaim bullshit
-What is the precise nature of your "rolecop"? What does it return?


I have more but these ones comes first

[jjh927]

-What is the precise nature of your "rolecop"? What does it return?

This is a particularly big question rn

[jjh927]

boon do you know the flavour of the person you are looking for or what do you have on them

I don't know the flavor of them, but I basically have a targeting ability that helps me look for them. I also gain abilities throughout the game depending on who I target. I'm from Hikaru no Go, so I was semi thinking maybe my target also is from HnG, so I was trying to bait out earlier who is familiar with Hikaru no Go, and I thought by bringing it up in the way I did, my target, if from HnG, would actively try hiding the fact that they knew about the show.

I'm Sai, but effectively Hikaru. I'm kind of not really in this game, and I can have actions pass through me. Sometimes I have multiple actions to use, sometimes I don't, depending on what I picked up. Night 1 I had 2 actions. I targeted Alchemist for one of them, and that caused all actions on me to be passed through me onto him. That's essentially my main ability.

In a game where abilities are gated by power levels, this is bullshit

[jjh927]

Honestly this just reeks of Boon doing the kind of overly complex fakeclaim he usually does in a game where the role PMs aren't really that complex and the claim doesn't mesh at all with the setup design. Gaining abilities throughout the game is inevitably going to be covered by power level except in the case of one particular flip, which is still very clear about how those abilities are gained. Now, consider the fact that this role existed and could have consumed FL- who is claiming an active ability that does something and then gains him new abilities. The claim simply does not mesh with this existing role in any sensible mechanical way.

The most critical flaw in just the claimed rolecop is that role titles are potentially ambiguous and yet FL has claimed to receive no more than "Traitor"- but a rolecop that does not receive a full explanation of a role in a game with a roles called "Mech Pilot" and "Dragon Knight" is just not a thing.

[jjh927]

Which is rolling scum and making janky ass fakeclaims

[jjh927]

You wanna know what anime my pick came from?

[jjh927]

Why would you fake a guilty here as town

[jjh927]

Why would you think your fake guilty was even remotely capable of standing up to scrutiny

[jjh927]

How do you intend to spin a character from the 1990 anime adaption of moomins as a traitor

[jjh927]

Likely going down? I'd just started posting again in a big way

Suddenly I'm a threat

[jjh927]

You tried to push the lynch quick on eod3 and because it didn't work you knew this reckoning was coming

There was always gonna be a 1V1 here and you faked a guilty to try and get a head start

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Implies I'm on the right track though

Yeah fwiw I'd vote either of the scumbutts who just voted me, preferentially in reverse order, but I'm guessing there's not enough time or people who agree with me today

the entire scumteam voted me consecutively

I think one of them was even a traitor

?

[jjh927]

Oh okay you think you can spin that as a traitor crumb I guess that explains why you're doing this

[jjh927]

Uh what

[jjh927]

You vagued it up and said there was a MYSTERIOUS THING that you couldn't tell people right then and there for no apparent reason but faked concerns that you might die before you got to say it in order to try and push the last couple of votes without having to commit to this frankly terrible plan

[jjh927]

You made me look up that game but I was wrong and traitor was off-wagon, which kinda makes the feat of coordination I was commenting on redundant but still

[jjh927]

NO. TODAY IS ALCH. NOBODY DIED BECAUSE ALCH IS THE ONE WHO'S BEEN DOING THE KILLS. FUCK OFFFFFFFFFF

VOTE: Alchemist21

I am also willing to vote Alchemist fwiw, just FL is confscum from my perspective and Alch is only extremely likely to be scum

[jjh927]

VOTE: Alchemist


There's 2 guaranteed scumflips rn

[jjh927]

lmao that also proves FL was fakeclaiming

[jjh927]

He couldn't have gained this supposed rolecop in night 3 for use in night 4 if he was roleblocked

[jjh927]

Look
Idc in which order alch or pink ball die in
But
They’re dieing
Alch adding more to his claim is sus
And jjh I’m okay with lynching especially with a guilty.

So I’ll move my vote between those 2

Ali wtf you are capable of reading

[jjh927]

FL, you literally just got guiltied way harder than Alch

[jjh927]

Alch is circumstantial but still probably correct whereas if you were blocked N3 then you have been caught in a lie

[jjh927]

You target anyone else any other nights?

Yes, but I just had my role upgraded.

I just had my role upgraded.

just

[jjh927]

FL why the fuck would the scumteam try to kill jjh without evidence that he's a traitor. No scumteam in the world would think jjh as a priority target in this game

There was evidence he was a traitor.

I already pointed that out.

He was basically obviously traitor when he was getting pushed.

Why the fuck would the scumteam recruit me at this stage if I was a traitor?

[jjh927]

Pintu I am just double checking

You are aware you have a hard guilty on FL, right?

[jjh927]

Pintu I am just double checking

You are aware you have a hard guilty on FL, right?

No, why

Okay so I've been saying this a lot but since I have your attention:

You RBed him on N3.
He claimed to have just received a powerup of some description due to an action he took, which gave him a "rolecop" action
which he used on N4

Keyword was "just"- implying an action he took on N3 got him an ability to use on N4 which he is guiltying me with

[jjh927]

LOL LOOK AT THAT CLAIM HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAHA

mood

[jjh927]

I might stop refreshing this page and finish this episode of Dark Matter

[jjh927]

Pintu I am just double checking

You are aware you have a hard guilty on FL, right?

No, why

Okay so I've been saying this a lot but since I have your attention:

You RBed him on N3.
He claimed to have just received a powerup of some description due to an action he took, which gave him a "rolecop" action
which he used on N4

Keyword was "just"- implying an action he took on N3 got him an ability to use on N4 which he is guiltying me with

I mean, that may mean he now has enough power level, like all the other roles

No, he claimed a nonsensical fakeclaim that doesn't mesh with power level mechanics at all

[jjh927]

I also gain abilities throughout the game depending on who I target.

[jjh927]

Yeah, power level is what upgrades people in this game, which is why it's really fucking weird you didn't mention it at all before I did and instead went for

I also gain abilities throughout the game depending on who I target.

[jjh927]

Looking through your old shit and I can now pinpoint two times when you have claimed that your target unlocked you abilities as opposed to anything to do with power level manipulations.

New question

I also have a Day Shounen Cop from my first night target.

Have you used this? There's doesn't appear to be a shounen flavour mechanic

[jjh927]

VOTE: jjh
if this is scum boon im fine w/ him winning

This is exactly what scum boon does though

[jjh927]

He's brazenly bullshitting, revealing an apparent belief that he's the greatest player of mafia ever to exist, and refusing to compromise

What is okay about that? What is towny about that?

[jjh927]

I mean I have effectively got a guilty but I'm more than happy to vote on the other guilty

[jjh927]

Seriously how the fuck is moominpappa a traitor

[jjh927]

Seriously how the fuck is moominpappa a traitor

dunno.

Looks like you're semi upset that moominpappa is a traitor and using that as a defense.

No, if I was scum I'd have had to have had one of my other picks because there could be no kill flavour for moominpappa

[jjh927]

Pintu, what do you actually believe about FL's claim

[jjh927]

Like, I know you are capable of reading me whereas it honestly looks like you're just taking the easy way of agreeing with FL, which is only the easy way because he's so fucking obnoxious about this, and I can't see myself bothering to fight it off as scum

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Seriously how the fuck is moominpappa a traitor

dunno.

Looks like you're semi upset that moominpappa is a traitor and using that as a defense.

No, if I was scum I'd have had to have had one of my other picks because there could be no kill flavour for moominpappa

there's specific kill flavor? Alright, good to know.

Are you seriously trying to shade me with this

[jjh927]

Your kill flavor using this ability is "was consumed."

During the night, Titus was killed by

ki-powered fists

!

The kill flavor if successful will be "was shot."

The kill flavor will be "was incinerated."

[jjh927]

Are you seriously trying to dumbtell here

[jjh927]

Pintu, if I was traitor why would I be recruited last night

[jjh927]

JjH cLeArlY iS cOmMuNIcAtInG wItH sCUm TeAm hErE

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Because it's fucking FL

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He thinks he can fakeclaim but the actual content is shite. He just does it with enough confidence that people don't seem to doubt it and honestly I wouldn't put it past you to let him survive after I flip

[jjh927]

Are you fucking kidding me

[jjh927]

Why would I even signal them

[jjh927]

If I get bussed as scum I don't even have to play a scumgame anymore

[jjh927]

No because your bullshit guilty is based on that post you're trying to spin as a traitor crumb

[jjh927]

jj a fake claim makes zero sense from scum fl , none, nada. It never happens unless they somehow win with your lynch tonight which spoiler alert makes even less sense.

Well explain why it's such an obviously fake claim then?

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Name like 1 thing in the claim that makes it believable

[jjh927]

You know what

I don't think any of this actually matters if Pintu and Alisae actually think I'm scum here

[jjh927]

That's egotistical crap

[jjh927]

You basically just ADMITTED YOU WERE FAKECLAIMING

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There are so many holes in your claim it's unbelievable

This is actually a town tell by me, and anyone who’s ever played with scum me should know this. My biggest flaw with my scum fake claims is that I’m way too consistent.

He is literally saying he is town because he fakeclaimed badly

[jjh927]

Hurrdurr I'm Flavor Leaf and my greatest weakness as scum is that my fakeclaims are too good

[jjh927]

Yeah I dunno if I'm doing this again after last time since it wasn't really worth the effort

[jjh927]

Meh even if its fake claim i dont think it comes from scum leaf

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[jjh927]

He thinks he can fakeclaim but the actual content is shite. He just does it with enough confidence that people don't seem to doubt it and honestly I wouldn't put it past you to let him survive after I flip

[jjh927]

This is moronic

[jjh927]

Your pattern is easily recognisable though

[jjh927]

I say a thing, you bullshit in an unrelated manner and say I'm scum

[jjh927]

The other pattern you do is where I say a thing, you bullshit in an unrelated matter and say you're town

[jjh927]

Either way you simply flood the place with bullshit, a lot of which is stuff I have already refuted, and use quantity and strength of conviction in place of logical argument

[jjh927]

AAAAAAAAAAH

[jjh927]

This is frankly insufferable

-quote post
-take it out of context to bullshit
-call me scum

[jjh927]

Sure you do; you get to mislynch me, and you claimed the fake guilty because you knew I was gonna go all in on you and your time was up- and this gives you a head start that people will believe since you're not just claiming the guilty halfway through the 1V1

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And your scumbuddy Cafe is already setting up to try and set up for you to not be lynched after I flip town

[jjh927]

If I'm gonna get lynched though I'm gonna make absolutely certain that people don't let this slide though

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Sure you do; you get to mislynch me, and you claimed the fake guilty because you knew I was gonna go all in on you and your time was up- and this gives you a head start that people will believe since you're not just claiming the guilty halfway through the 1V1

Why the hell wouldn’t I have just pushed you?!?!?! That way, as scum, I could just push off me having an incorrect read.

Because I'd have won the 1V1

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You also get this whole wifom crap because nobody expects you to be a consistent player

[jjh927]

I don't believe a damn word out of your mouth about your self meta

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I don't think it really matters what anyone says in this argument because he's following the template

This is frankly insufferable

-quote post
-take it out of context to bullshit
-call me scum

To an extent I think all I can hope for is that people actually read the arguments and evaluate based on merit so I might stop for now

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This is exactly why they should town read me. Never in a hundred years, as scum, do I have the less logical merit based arguments. That is through and through townFlavor Leaf.

I don’t need arguments, i have a guilty. I have literal confbias against you, so I can point out literally everything in your ISO and no without a doubt, that it is coming from a scum mindset.

I can find a huge amount of proof to the contrary in the two games I've played with you

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That's literally impossible

You claimed a thing is not present in your scumgame and I'm saying it's all over both the scumgames of yours that I have seen

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Yeah due to a certain lack of content

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About half the playerlist is aware of what my towngame looks like though, and I have a lot of time to commit to the game this week

Was just starting to get back into things eod3, which is why FL wanted to quickly lynch me there while it was still easily possible

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Then because he tried to lynch me there, there's no way he couldn't predict what was coming- especially after he hammered Gamma

[jjh927]

I for one gave a huge fuck about the hammer

[jjh927]

He's not even trading himself here because people like you are still gonna deny that FL is scum

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Maybe he'll claim he has no idea what happened, or maybe he'll just outright admit he was fakeclaiming but you'll still think he's town for dumbass reasons

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I don't need people to townread me on the spot to make a convincing argument

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I'd hope logic would prevail although because he fucking camped out the thread start in order to fake a guilty on me it's impossible to have a straight 1V1

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There are 2 minutes and 10 seconds between the day start votecount and Flavor Leaf opening the day by posting that he has a guilty on me

[jjh927]

Do you not think there's something off about actually camping the thread with that

The claimed action behind the guilty is so weak you couldn't reasonably expect useful information out of it

[jjh927]

I think I'm voting Alch rn but since Pintu ditched

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

[jjh927]

VOTE: jjh

Just shut up please

Let him get banned

[jjh927]

VOTE: Alchemist

[jjh927]

Boon has really had to overcommit to this one lmao

Somehow I don't think any of this was planned



Yo Boon, give us a full rundown on the parts of your role that are relevant to right now and I'll even fullclaim

[jjh927]

But that means you actually believe the claim

Have you actually looked at the claim

[jjh927]

Like, are you reading it and going "Yes that is a role that Krazy would design and put in this game"

[jjh927]

There will be no jesters and no lynchers.

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But I guess I can't count on people to actually read the game

[jjh927]

Yeah you've actually got 9 votes on me and you needed 8 ah well

[jjh927]

FL I feel betrayed why did you kill me D:

I hardcore fear killed you.

MVP scum feared me so that automatically makes me MVP town, my logic is sound and I can blame all of you for losing and claim my play was perfect.

Take that Alisae.

MVP scum also feared me so take that as you will