Krazy's Anime Upick (Game Over)

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m a male child/teenage boy.

[Flavor Leaf]

That's a weak read as well. Unless my wincon is literally kill FL.

No, you started pushing me after I claimed that I could find 3rd party.

You also were theorizing about “no more 3rd party kills that aren’t delayed”

It’s not a weak read. It’s a viable case, even if it ends up being wrong.

There is 3rd party equity within you.

We both know it was a fakeclaim, Ive been arguing against the application of it and not the claim itself.

If you feel I've softed a delayed killing role why would I care about you claiming 3p checker without a result on me. I'd probably be powered up by now. Or at least by night phase.

I didn’t say you were one, but you were WIFOM’ing with it.

I just got to the rock climbing gym with el flippero nippero, so gonna back off of this.

[Flavor Leaf]

You're lying. You're not the lightning rod.

VOTE: FL

I never said I was...?

[Flavor Leaf]

Me being my obnoxious town self

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean, i’m Not annoying when I’m scum. I’m annoying when I’m town.

[Flavor Leaf]

And i was pointing out contradictions in your thought process when you seemed shocked about the mention of a lightning rod because I responded with my not ever thinking that the lightning rod could go twice.

Could have been a Nexus or some variant, but with 0 kills in a 5 kill max game with a powerup mechanic, feels like Krazy’s way of making sure people get to play a little bit.

I believe A50 did this in Overkill 2

[Flavor Leaf]

I still want someone who was on my wagon

[Flavor Leaf]

Like I’m not even continuing to push Panzer, because there’s that possibility he wins with us.

@Panzer - can you win with us? I will literally help you get a joint victory if you confirm you’re 3rd party.

why do you expect him to say anything that isn't yes?

A lot of my posts that come off that way usually is me just being flippant.

[Flavor Leaf]

Unless someone claims LR I'm taking Tet as a clear.

Scum with LR never claim in that scenario.

[Flavor Leaf]

Alchemist, claim

[Flavor Leaf]

What was you claim again

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah I’m the senzu bean guy.

It ain’t much but at least it’s better than Yamcha.

...

You picked him -.-

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: tet

The reason i can't be sure that you're full of shit is cause this game has weird stuff going on, but certainly got fake badged

Oh, you can be sure. I am full of shit. But I am town that’s full of shit.

Like here's why I think without a doubt flavor is scum that's full of shit. If it was just him with the weird flipping between town and 3p that would be obnoxious but not suspicious. The problem is him just saying "panzer town" the instant Panzer said he was town. It just looks so contrived and theatre-y.

Well, it was less about Panzer and more about players coming at me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Or coming with me

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ll be going on one of the three i baited

[Flavor Leaf]

Tet is 3rd party and probably is gonna kill me tonight

[Flavor Leaf]

So like, I could move off him if you go him if I flip

[Flavor Leaf]

Spicy take:

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

:/

It’s not that spicy. I have a wagon.

Which should be indicative that i’m Town

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: tet

The reason i can't be sure that you're full of shit is cause this game has weird stuff going on, but certainly got fake badged

Oh, you can be sure. I am full of shit. But I am town that’s full of shit.

Like here's why I think without a doubt flavor is scum that's full of shit. If it was just him with the weird flipping between town and 3p that would be obnoxious but not suspicious. The problem is him just saying "panzer town" the instant Panzer said he was town. It just looks so contrived and theatre-y.

Well, it was less about Panzer and more about players coming at me.

Or coming with me

Explain?
And btw, don't get it twisted, if you explain how those aren't connected my mindset concerning you is gonna change at least a bit

My making a blanket statement directing my attention towards Panzer, people fight me or push alongside with me. That’s essentially how I get reads. By seeing how people gravitate or fight the gravitational pull through whatever I do. As town, it’s easy because I just say some random shit, and scum get paranoid af. Ask Vorkuta about the “cologne” gambit.

[Flavor Leaf]

Alchemist is still probably a dumb wagon. I'm sheeping FL.

I’m thinking about switching somewhere, because I’m leaning Third Party on Tet, and I don’t think we necessarily need to hit there yet, but I’m wanting to stay on because I think he’s gonna kill me.

Who do you scum read?

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve forgot most of this game, not gonna lie.

[Flavor Leaf]

Alchemist, claim

r u scum?
I genuinely believe you don't dumbtell this badly.

I honestly don’t care about PR’s in most games tbh. Idk why this shocks anyone.

I’m not a mechanical player, I go off the sociological side unlike the majority of players on site.

[Flavor Leaf]

boon what u think of cafe wagon

I can’t remember a single cafe post for some reason. Do you think that’s scum indicative? Pretty null on them.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m ready to move on, though, so Tet and I can double kill each other.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think I'd actually go with Alch, Cafe, Panzer, Creature rn

Why Panzer, and where did the creature scum reads come from?

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Cafe

I wanna see what happens

[Flavor Leaf]

I actually think Alch is conftown from something I saw earlier

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Tet is town too

Tet’s 3rd party.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hot take: Jjh is being bussed by buddies.

One of which is Cafe.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hey FL, are you still gonna vanity vote?

Should I take that as a scumclaim?

Consider me on JJH.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: JJH

I thought we had more time tbh.

[Flavor Leaf]

Look at JJH’s last stuff. It implies he’s being bussed.

Look into it if I die tonight.

I have a feeling Tet’s going to kill me, so.

[Flavor Leaf]

Is Xtoxm town?

Yes.

Don’t trust Mastina/Elsa claim.

[Flavor Leaf]

They might not be groupscum, but they aren’t masons.

And both probably aren’t scum

[Flavor Leaf]

I have a feeling Tet’s going to kill me, so.

Why?

Because he knows I know he’s 3rd party.

I targeted Elsa night 1 and got No result.

[Flavor Leaf]

I trust Panzer this game.

I also think Alchemist is locktown for reasons, look into this if I die.

[Flavor Leaf]

They might not be groupscum, but they aren’t masons.

And both probably aren’t scum

So they're town that decided to fakeclaim masons with each other?

Not necessarily.

I don’t think that’s out of the realm of possibility, but I feel either Elsa wanted to fakeclaim masons with Mastina and Mastina ran with it as scum, or Mastina is doing something to cover herself, as any alignment.

Regardless, don’t trust the mason claim.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am leaning town on Creature, but some JJH stuff makes me feel like there’s bussing, however, if Jjh is trying to take someone down after he dies, Creature fits the bill.

Alchemist as well, but I think Cafe is lockscum, probably with Cheeky.

[Flavor Leaf]

I thought Cheeky claimed cop something?

So?

They claimed to learn the gender/age of people and then that learns alignment as well. I think the alignment thing was just thrown on top, which is easy because as scum, they know basically everything bar 3rd party.

[Flavor Leaf]

Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: Gamma

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Jjh

I have a guilty.

[Flavor Leaf]

I didn't even push for you until I realized we were so close to the end of the day, and you were the leading wagon.

Jjh didn't even mention he was informed that I targeted him last night.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am looking for a specific player in the game, I will say that. I am town-aligned, but I can lose with town if I don't find a specific player to link with. My role just upgraded a bit, so I was able to role cop last night. He's a traitor.

[Flavor Leaf]

You target anyone else any other nights?

Yes, but I just had my role upgraded.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am looking for a specific player in the game, I will say that. I am town-aligned, but I can lose with town if I don't find a specific player to link with. My role just upgraded a bit, so I was able to role cop last night. He's a traitor.

I can lose with town winning*

[Flavor Leaf]

Simple. I had a role cop shot, and I checked you. I received Traitor.

I have a role that I am linked with another player in the game. I believe this player to likely be scum or 3rd party. I don't know if they know about me for sure, but I imagine they do. I have a certain objective I have to accomplish or I can't win. I'm town aligned, but I can lose even if town wins if I don't accomplish my objective.

[Flavor Leaf]

boon do you know the flavour of the person you are looking for or what do you have on them

I don't know the flavor of them, but I basically have a targeting ability that helps me look for them. I also gain abilities throughout the game depending on who I target. I'm from Hikaru no Go, so I was semi thinking maybe my target also is from HnG, so I was trying to bait out earlier who is familiar with Hikaru no Go, and I thought by bringing it up in the way I did, my target, if from HnG, would actively try hiding the fact that they knew about the show.

I'm Sai, but effectively Hikaru. I'm kind of not really in this game, and I can have actions pass through me. Sometimes I have multiple actions to use, sometimes I don't, depending on what I picked up. Night 1 I had 2 actions. I targeted Alchemist for one of them, and that caused all actions on me to be passed through me onto him. That's essentially my main ability.

[Flavor Leaf]

All I got was Traitor. If I had more, I'd have said more.

I don't really have that strong of a role, and I believe the role cop to be pretty weak in this game because exactly what you brought up. You just got screwed over because you're a traitor.

[Flavor Leaf]

mm no i think a rolecop would get a full rolecard
what are you doing here boon

I'm not a flavor cop, I'm a role cop. Not even a full one at that. His role is Traitor. Not dragon knight, not anything else. traitor.

[Flavor Leaf]

There are 14 players alive on Day 5. Why would I ever fake a guilty here as scum?

[Flavor Leaf]

You were already likely going down, if I was faking a guilty, I'd go for a much higher priority target.

I don't know that. All I know is you are confirmed traitor.

[Flavor Leaf]

Implies I'm on the right track though

Yeah fwiw I'd vote either of the scumbutts who just voted me, preferentially in reverse order, but I'm guessing there's not enough time or people who agree with me today

the entire scumteam voted me consecutively

I think one of them was even a traitor

[Flavor Leaf]

he was being voted by his scum buddies likely, so he started talking to him.

Maybe he was recruited last night, which is why there was no kill.

[Flavor Leaf]

You tried to push the lynch quick on eod3 and because it didn't work you knew this reckoning was coming

There was always gonna be a 1V1 here and you faked a guilty to try and get a head start

No I didn't.

I was the last one on you, and wasn't there until the last like hour of deadline. I was actively pushing away from you if anything, onto Cafe.

[Flavor Leaf]

I called you out correctly that day, and I was right.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hot take: Jjh is being bussed by buddies.

One of which is Cafe.

Hey FL, are you still gonna vanity vote?

Should I take that as a scumclaim?

Consider me on JJH.

Look at JJH’s last stuff. It implies he’s being bussed.

Look into it if I die tonight.

I have a feeling Tet’s going to kill me, so.

I guess I never explicitly said that, but I feel like I did, if that makes sense. This is why I decided to target you in the first place.

[Flavor Leaf]

NO. TODAY IS ALCH. NOBODY DIED BECAUSE ALCH IS THE ONE WHO'S BEEN DOING THE KILLS. FUCK OFFFFFFFFFF

VOTE: Alchemist21

I have a guilty. I'm not moving off of Jjh.

[Flavor Leaf]

Someone received a demon bullet, I wanna hear about it first.

I think it might be an odd-night thing. Mine came N1, yours came N3. Nobody’s claimed it from N2.

I know who's ability that is, BY THE WAY. Not the specifics, but I know who it is. I think it's only dangerous if you're scum or 3rd party. I no longer think Tet is 3rd party, for what its worth.

[Flavor Leaf]

@PB - I think it's more likely JJH was targeted for a night kill and got recruited considering the day was so fast prior.

[Flavor Leaf]

alch is just semi mechanically cleared from my perspective. I'm not 100% on that, but if I out another role, he's potentially cleared, so JJh is the correct path today.

We remember what you said here, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

Alch is circumstantial but still probably correct whereas if you were blocked N3 then you have been caught in a lie

how so? I didn't say anything about my Night 3 target, and I didn't say anything about it for a reason.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also pass on stuff targeting me to a target, I've said that.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL why the fuck would the scumteam try to kill jjh without evidence that he's a traitor. No scumteam in the world would think jjh as a priority target in this game

There was evidence he was a traitor.

I already pointed that out.

He was basically obviously traitor when he was getting pushed.

[Flavor Leaf]

Implies I'm on the right track though

Yeah fwiw I'd vote either of the scumbutts who just voted me, preferentially in reverse order, but I'm guessing there's not enough time or people who agree with me today

the entire scumteam voted me consecutively

I think one of them was even a traitor

he literally basically told them.

[Flavor Leaf]

and I can have actions pass through me.

For starters.

[Flavor Leaf]

Pintu I am just double checking

You are aware you have a hard guilty on FL, right?

No, why

Okay so I've been saying this a lot but since I have your attention:

You RBed him on N3.
He claimed to have just received a powerup of some description due to an action he took, which gave him a "rolecop" action
which he used on N4

Keyword was "just"- implying an action he took on N3 got him an ability to use on N4 which he is guiltying me with

This is also a misrep. I never said anything I did gave me the power up, but it wouldn't matter if I did. I already explained my pass through part.

I'm a spirit, being shown by a male boy

[Flavor Leaf]

Pintu I am just double checking

You are aware you have a hard guilty on FL, right?

No, why

Okay so I've been saying this a lot but since I have your attention:

You RBed him on N3.
He claimed to have just received a powerup of some description due to an action he took, which gave him a "rolecop" action
which he used on N4

Keyword was "just"- implying an action he took on N3 got him an ability to use on N4 which he is guiltying me with

I mean, that may mean he now has enough power level, like all the other roles

No, he claimed a nonsensical fakeclaim that doesn't mesh with power level mechanics at all

This is also a misrep. Power level is what upgrades people this game essentially.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sure honey.

IF YOU'RE NOT FLAVOR LEAF AND YOU DON'T VOTE ALCH RIGHT NOW YOU'LL GET ROLEBLOCKED NEXT NIGHT BABYEEEE

This is probably scum trying to save their scum partner.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also gain abilities throughout the game depending on who I target.

this is true.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, power level is what upgrades people in this game, which is why it's really fucking weird you didn't mention it at all before I did and instead went for

I also gain abilities throughout the game depending on who I target.

i dont get what you're saying. that's true too.

[Flavor Leaf]

pink ball is hard protecting his buddy right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sure honey.

IF YOU'RE NOT FLAVOR LEAF AND YOU DON'T VOTE ALCH RIGHT NOW YOU'LL GET ROLEBLOCKED NEXT NIGHT BABYEEEE

This is probably scum trying to save their scum partner.

FL fuck OFF I can say exactly the same about you in this situation, I wouldn't risk myself for jjh on a guilty claim and you fucking know it

Then stop being dense. There are plenty of other scenarios for a missing kill...

LIKE JJH BEING RECRUITED INTO THE DAMN SCUM THREAD.

If Alchemist is scum, Pink Ball, JJH is still the partner in that scenario. Vote JJH.

[Flavor Leaf]

I literally have a freakin' Traitor result. This is a CONFIRMED guilty. You do not have anything proving that that is the reason that there was no kill.

Is it possible? Yes.

Does it mean JJH isn't scum?

NO!!!!! JJH is CONFIRMED scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Everyone’s trying to call buddies and I’m just trying to lynch lying scum.

I'm trying to lynch CONFIRMED scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

That one was fake, I was on my HxH gambit.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't actually have that much power, tbh. Role Cop is essentially the strongest thing I get. My main ability is my best one probably.

[Flavor Leaf]

Everyone’s trying to call buddies and I’m just trying to lynch lying scum.

I'm trying to lynch CONFIRMED scum.

I can never trust your claims though unless you kill scum.

If scum kill you tonight and I see you were telling the truth then I’ll lynch JJ tomorrow. Pink is happening today.

Or go JJH today and I'm confirmed here anyways.

I am killing scum here.

[Flavor Leaf]

I literally have a freakin' Traitor result. This is a CONFIRMED guilty. You do not have anything proving that that is the reason that there was no kill.

Is it possible? Yes.

Does it mean JJH isn't scum?

NO!!!!! JJH is CONFIRMED scum.

You are Flavor fucking Leaf, do I have to say anything else???? I'm not trying to discredit your claim or anything, but my fucking case on Alch, on why I think I was the nightkill on N1, is now followed by a pretty much correct roleblock. Fuck off saying I'm protecting jjh when in no possible scenario I would do that

JJH is literally fucking conf scum. I don't care if you "think" you were the night kill or you "think" you are "pretty much" correct.

I damn well KNOW JJH is scum from concrete mod confirmed fucking proof.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am willing to talk about that, but we are NOT lynching outside of JJH today.

[Flavor Leaf]

Do you understand this yet?

[Flavor Leaf]

@PB - Alchemist claimed to get a Demon Bullet, as did Tet. I feel this has the potential to be some sort of Arsonist type thing, so if Alch is scum, he's likely dead soon anyways.

I'm actually more leaning towards it being a 3rd party role searching for another 3rd party role or the like, which is why I pushed Tet so loudly as 3rd party, and that seemingly got semi confirmed when Tet received a Demon Bullet afterwards.

But we keep people with the Demon Bullet's alive for now.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dude if anyone else claimed that I would vote jjh. But you're Flavor Leaf. Don't act like I should follow you when I fucking know you. I was in Overkill II

And what happened there? I helped kill 3-4+ scum.

I have caught scum here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dude if anyone else claimed that I would vote jjh. But you're Flavor Leaf. Don't act like I should follow you when I fucking know you. I was in Overkill II

Honestly, that's more of a reason to follow me here. If JJH flips anything but traitor, I would be caught. Either way, by going JJH, you have a caught scum, even if you think it's potentially me.

[Flavor Leaf]

piiiiiiink balllll, you've also seen me in that last Anime Upick. come onnnnn

[Flavor Leaf]

this is what scum boon does because it's what town boon does. Just because I've done specific stuff as scum before doesn't make me scum.

JJh has been pecking at things because he has to. He knows he's guiltied, and has to pull everything and anything out to even attempt to counter.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm down to flip FL to confirm jjh scum.

Flip JJH to confirm JJh scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

i literally just lose if I'm killed here, even if town win.

[Flavor Leaf]

He's brazenly bullshitting, revealing an apparent belief that he's the greatest player of mafia ever to exist, and refusing to compromise

What is okay about that? What is towny about that?

I HAVE A CONFIRMED GUILTY WHY WOULD I EVER COMPROMISE

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean I have effectively got a guilty but I'm more than happy to vote on the other guilty

Pink Ball doesn't have a guilty. He has a theory.

[Flavor Leaf]

Could his theory be correct? Yes.

Is my guilty more correct? 100% yes.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ugh for fucks sake why do you have to be so cool

VOTE: jjh927

thank you, now block another kill and save me tonight.

[Flavor Leaf]

Seriously how the fuck is moominpappa a traitor

dunno.

Looks like you're semi upset that moominpappa is a traitor and using that as a defense.

[Flavor Leaf]

Seriously how the fuck is moominpappa a traitor

dunno.

Looks like you're semi upset that moominpappa is a traitor and using that as a defense.

No, if I was scum I'd have had to have had one of my other picks because there could be no kill flavour for moominpappa

there's specific kill flavor? Alright, good to know.

[Flavor Leaf]

and I can't see myself bothering to fight it off as scum

[Flavor Leaf]

OK now that you all fucked up twice.

And I have(not to brag led you to justice day 1)

Cam you now bloody follow me

Vote:Cafe stile

I agree, that's probably scum, Shiro, but I have a guilty on Jjh here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Your kill flavor using this ability is "was consumed."

During the night, Titus was killed by

ki-powered fists

!

The kill flavor if successful will be "was shot."

The kill flavor will be "was incinerated."

oh.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, you're right

VOTE: jjh

VOTE: jjh

Implies I'm on the right track though

Yeah fwiw I'd vote either of the scumbutts who just voted me, preferentially in reverse order, but I'm guessing there's not enough time or people who agree with me today

VOTE: JJH

VOTE: Jjh

the entire scumteam voted me consecutively

I think one of them was even a traitor

Jjh clearly is communicating with scum team here, we know Cheeky is town, so we can see jjh is probably trying to mess with us, but I feel it implies at least one scum on him, maybe 2. I could see Cafe/Creature or Cafe/Alchemist, with JJH.

[Flavor Leaf]

He was recruited because the day went through so fast so the team probably went hmm, let's recruit him so we can work with him, or something like that. That was just a theory, PB, but it makes some sense. I'm not 100% on that, you could have just blocked the kill, or some protective is out there, who knows. That's not the reason to be voting him anyways, that's the reason to have some doubt with Alch. We have zero doubt with jjh

[Flavor Leaf]

Why would I even signal them

idk, maybe you weren't.

I don't know your team for sure, that was me analyzing. I just know that you are a traitor

[Flavor Leaf]

No because your bullshit guilty is based on that post you're trying to spin as a traitor crumb

i would just die after your flip then.

[Flavor Leaf]

Eww. Like. Literally eww.

Fake duck gets townpoints for being Flavor's target. Something about Pink having/ has a guilty on them? I'm tired but Flavor is being weird and I noticed that more.

VOTE: Flavor

I'm gonna reread this but I'd rather lose this then the duck. Never trusted Flavor since he's been so focused on 3ps and not scum until now for some reason.

Also.... WE'RE ACTUALLY USING THE DAY. NO MORE QUICKHAMMERS. Please and thank you.

Alright, outside pick for scum here. Clear protecting of JJH.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m literally confirmed after JJH flips.

Also, Elsa Jay is more than likely ascetic based off of Pink Ball claiming roleblocker due to my other night 1 action failing on Elsa. This confirms it as bad defending of JJH.

[Flavor Leaf]

Eww. Like. Literally eww.

Fake duck gets townpoints for being Flavor's target. Something about Pink having/ has a guilty on them? I'm tired but Flavor is being weird and I noticed that more.

VOTE: Flavor

I'm gonna reread this but I'd rather lose this then the duck. Never trusted Flavor since he's been so focused on 3ps and not scum until now for some reason.

Also.... WE'RE ACTUALLY USING THE DAY. NO MORE QUICKHAMMERS. Please and thank you.

This is also a misrep, as it’s only been one day.

Plus, I was correct, so not even focused on it. I’m just right.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: jjh

Man think we’re bussing or whatever im just glad this is finally getting lynched

We’re a vanilla town fyi, its confirmed to exist js. We arent gonna get night killed any time soon anyhow

Rolecop elsa at night or something, make sure shes not wolf claiming masons

I checked her night 1 and got a no result.

[Flavor Leaf]

There are so many holes in your claim it's unbelievable

This is actually a town tell by me, and anyone who’s ever played with scum me should know this. My biggest flaw with my scum fake claims is that I’m way too consistent.

[Flavor Leaf]

You werent upgraded n1?
Did i miss something

I got a role cop later.

I had other stuff earlier. I’ve had 2 actions on 3 separate nights.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m literally confirmed after JJH flips.

Also, Elsa Jay is more than likely ascetic based off of Pink Ball claiming roleblocker due to my other night 1 action failing on Elsa. This confirms it as bad defending of JJH.

This shit here is why I'm after you and not the fake duck btw. Kindly screw off.

You don't just start spewing weird shit and assume that'll work.

K be bad or be scum. Idc.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have a feeling Tet’s going to kill me, so.

Why?

Because he knows I know he’s 3rd party.

I targeted Elsa night 1 and got No result.

@Cafe

[Flavor Leaf]

There are so many holes in your claim it's unbelievable

This is actually a town tell by me, and anyone who’s ever played with scum me should know this. My biggest flaw with my scum fake claims is that I’m way too consistent.

He is literally saying he is town because he fakeclaimed badly

I didn’t fake claim badly, i true claimed after towngambiting.

You are caught scum, and I’m undecided if Elsa is just being bad or scum

[Flavor Leaf]

Hurrdurr I'm Flavor Leaf and my greatest weakness as scum is that my fakeclaims are too good

See, now you’re catching on

[Flavor Leaf]

You aren’t a mason.

@Mastina - idk if it was your decision or Elsa’s, but Elsa is probably scum if you aren’t masons.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Mastina - I’m literally coming to you right now.

If you say Elsa is mason, I’ll drop it, but please be up front about it here.

P

[Flavor Leaf]

I know I’ve fake claimed a bunch in the past, and even a little bit in this game, but for the love of all that is flavor, I’m telling the truth here, guys. please lynch JJH.

Powerlynch me tomorrow if he flips elsawise.

[Flavor Leaf]

I always end up claiming eventually as town after my loads of fake claims, usually after I catch scum.

And I have scum caught on the hairs of their chinny chin chin.

[Flavor Leaf]

Your pattern is easily recognisable though

Exactly. And this is my easily recognizable town game.

And it doesn’t matter what you say, I’m not trying to convince you that you’re scum. You know you’re scum, arguing with you just gives you potential ammo to misrep and slide your way out.

[Flavor Leaf]

Either way you simply flood the place with bullshit, a lot of which is stuff I have already refuted, and use quantity and strength of conviction in place of logical argument

You just say random stuff too, and push “oh that claiming oh that claiming”.

I have zero scum agenda with this. My BEST case scenario as scum in this scenario would be getting you lynched, then I just die afterwards. That is not how I play scum.

And as scum, I am able to create much better cases than I can as town, and more logical arguments.

[Flavor Leaf]

This is frankly insufferable

-quote post
-take it out of context to bullshit
-call me scum

Misrep. You’re the one who’s been pushing all my stuff and pushing it as scum, even though it’s inherently indicative of my town playstyle and not my scum playstyle.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have absolutely nothing to gain in this scenario as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Repeating for the people in the back,

I have a role cop Traitor result from JJH. This is a direct guilty.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sure you do; you get to mislynch me, and you claimed the fake guilty because you knew I was gonna go all in on you and your time was up- and this gives you a head start that people will believe since you're not just claiming the guilty halfway through the 1V1

Why the hell wouldn’t I have just pushed you?!?!?! That way, as scum, I could just push off me having an incorrect read.

[Flavor Leaf]

And your scumbuddy Cafe is already setting up to try and set up for you to not be lynched after I flip town

Lol @this distancing.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sure you do; you get to mislynch me, and you claimed the fake guilty because you knew I was gonna go all in on you and your time was up- and this gives you a head start that people will believe since you're not just claiming the guilty halfway through the 1V1

Why the hell wouldn’t I have just pushed you?!?!?! That way, as scum, I could just push off me having an incorrect read.

Because I'd have won the 1V1

Lol, good one. Only because I’m essentially 1v4 or however many scum members you have piling on me. I imagine one is likely to bus you, though, but you’ll probably catch a straggler somewhere, like Tet

[Flavor Leaf]

You also get this whole wifom crap because nobody expects you to be a consistent player

ScumMe is consistent. TownMe isn’t.

It’s pretty Night and day.

[Flavor Leaf]

The fact you can say that means you can fucking mimick it pretty well, Flava flave.

And again... You said you targetted me n1. I'm never trusting you here.

You fakeclaimed mason. Why wouldn’t i target you Night 1? You fake claim more than I do, but you commit harder to it. Terrible reasoning.

I’m pretty Night and day, when I attempt to mimic, it comes off differently. I have a hard time not being consistent when I’m scum.

Town’s easy because i just spew whatever comes to my mind

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't believe a damn word out of your mouth about your self meta

Everything I self meta ever about is always true.

But you don’t have to believe anything. You already know I’m town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Jj if I say something and you agree he'll just say we're scum together dangit. Find something elsa to roast about him.

JJH is confirmed scum. You’re scum or just being bad town, it’s about 50/50, tbh, but i don’t care too much about that. You’re probably town.

[Flavor Leaf]

The fact you can say that means you can fucking mimick it pretty well, Flava flave.

And again... You said you targetted me n1. I'm never trusting you here.

You fakeclaimed mason. Why wouldn’t i target you Night 1? You fake claim more than I do, but you commit harder to it. Terrible reasoning.

1: still not proven as a fake claim at all.
2: mister pot calling madam kettle out for fake claims, much shock, such irony.
3: if you know that much about me then I'm STILL never a n1 check. I literally self resolve.

More like the pot also calling another pot, hey you like me, we the same thing, more than calling the kettle black.

I also disagree. You are always a good Night 1 target. I feel this isn’t even the first game I’ve Night 1 checked you.

You say “not proven as a fake claim”

Which means Implied that it’s a fake claim. You NEVER claim that there Day 1, especially if Mastina was your actual mason partner.

On top of that, you both are still alive, and have gotten zero to little scrutiny on it.

On top of that, I play mafia on a social level, not mechanical level, not a psychological level, a sociological based game, i draw from psychoanalytical and mechanical, but sociological base comes first for me, and that it’s basically confirmed from the very beginning that you two weren’t masons together.

I even called that out Day 1.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't think it really matters what anyone says in this argument because he's following the template

This is frankly insufferable

-quote post
-take it out of context to bullshit
-call me scum

To an extent I think all I can hope for is that people actually read the arguments and evaluate based on merit so I might stop for now

This is exactly why they should town read me. Never in a hundred years, as scum, do I have the less logical merit based arguments. That is through and through townFlavor Leaf.

I don’t need arguments, i have a guilty. I have literal confbias against you, so I can point out literally everything in your ISO and no without a doubt, that it is coming from a scum mindset.

[Flavor Leaf]

And again: Notice it was Mastina who claimed first and not me? Why must you smudge important details like that?

I was talking about the collective of you two.

I understand why town of both of you guys would do it, as non masons. But you don’t do it as actual masons.

You’re probably neighbors. That i could believe. You’re probably trying to manipulate Mastina in there.

[Flavor Leaf]

You both are literally just speaking and talking to make it look like you are doing something. You are waiting around for me to say something so you can an respond to it directly to try and discredit me further without having an actual lick of analytical content.

[Flavor Leaf]

I've literally been pulling a potato but you call ME the manipulator? Against someone like my Lord Mastina? That's a no-go my friend.

Okay, you’re right, you could still be town, but you can see my point here.

And if you were actually masons, there’s no reason for you to argue with me about that, because if you are masons, I am actively helping you hide from scum by putting doubt on the claim. You fighting it is sociological evidence— proof that you aren’t.

[Flavor Leaf]

This is exactly why they should town read me. Never in a hundred years, as scum, do I have the less logical merit based arguments. That is through and through townFlavor Leaf.

I don’t need arguments, i have a guilty. I have literal confbias against you, so I can point out literally everything in your ISO and no without a doubt, that it is coming from a scum mindset.

I can find a huge amount of proof to the contrary in the two games I've played with you

And i can point out 5+ that prove otherwise.

[Flavor Leaf]

Just realized this could be multiball potentially.

Anyway Xtoxm you asked for my townreads, but they're all dead except for Shiro and Alchemist. Stopped caring about the Mason claims, they're negative utility regardless of alignment.

VOTE: FL sheep me.

No, i literally can’t fucking win at all then. Whatever fuck this game

[Flavor Leaf]

I have a fucking confirmed guilty.

THAT is how we confirm this.

We go JJH today.

I literally can’t fucking win as town if I die here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like I don't really care who does it doesn't townread FL. If he's town then jjh is confirmed scum. If he flips traitor cool, if he flips goon then scum spent the shot on him and PB can get off his Alch tunnel.

It's really a win/win/win.

Conversely lynching jjh first doesn't confirm FL regardless of flip. And his defense will be that he never busses except for Vorkuta that one time. But we're also playing mafia so.

This is why it’s fucking stupid.

lynch me tomorrow then. I literally have scum on a silver platter.

If you’re thinking I’m bussing.

Good. Go fucking me tomorrow or later. Don’t let me end game.

It’s not a win/win/win, because that’s just actively pushing me to lose

[Flavor Leaf]

This isn’t anti scum it’s anti flavor leaf

[Flavor Leaf]

This is not town Tet. I don’t know if it’s scum, but town Tet never ultimately fucks me over here

[Flavor Leaf]

If he's town then jjh is confirmed scum.

That’s not how it fucking works for me.

Even if town win, I can’t win here, so it’s just against me

[Flavor Leaf]

Like why the fuck am i even playing if that’s the case

[Flavor Leaf]

Its fucking simple, you lynch the fucking guilty

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean assuming it is one shot and we haven't lynched a single red it makes sense to open with a claim like that.

There are 2 minutes and 10 seconds between the day start votecount and Flavor Leaf opening the day by posting that he has a guilty on me

I was online when Day was starting and I got my result back a couple minutes before the day start.

[Flavor Leaf]

If you are town he is dying tommorow

[Flavor Leaf]

Hell no, if yiu flip anything other than traitor, I will be the first to vote him.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like I don't really care who does it doesn't townread FL. If he's town then jjh is confirmed scum. If he flips traitor cool, if he flips goon then scum spent the shot on him and PB can get off his Alch tunnel.

It's really a win/win/win.

Conversely lynching jjh first doesn't confirm FL regardless of flip. And his defense will be that he never busses except for Vorkuta that one time. But we're also playing mafia so.

This is extremely anti town, because even if you think I have potential in being scum, it’s not confirmed scum like JJH.

You say I could be bussing

Fan fucking tastic, then even more confirmed JJH scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Tet is 3rd fucking party.

[Flavor Leaf]

Just realized this could be multiball potentially.

Anyway Xtoxm you asked for my townreads, but they're all dead except for Shiro and Alchemist. Stopped caring about the Mason claims, they're negative utility regardless of alignment.

VOTE: FL sheep me.

Tet’s town reads are also siding with me.

This is not town.

[Flavor Leaf]

You know what fucking proves I’m town?

The fact I haven’t once brought up anything about me later being able to be conftown.

[Flavor Leaf]

I can’t do that, but I can get you a scum in JJH.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have a dumb role and can’t win unless i can do something else first, Day fucking 5 and still haven’t finished that.

[Flavor Leaf]

People are trying so blatantly hard to protect JJH.

[Flavor Leaf]

My guess is Tet’s the person i need to link with, and he needs me to not link with him.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m not positive on that, but it makes sense given his play being so differently than his town game

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean assuming it is one shot and we haven't lynched a single red it makes sense to open with a claim like that.

This this this this this

[Flavor Leaf]

I am objectively town this gamr

[Flavor Leaf]

This game even

[Flavor Leaf]

and if we lynch JJH, i will shut up and not post this much for the rest of the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah well you thought I was 3p this would be....the third day since that read? If you want me to believe you haven't checked me you're gonna have to get creative. You may not even be scum here. I suspect you're 3p but this isn't town FL.

I can’t fucking claim that, though, now can I?

I can win

with

fucking town.

I’m obviously 3rd party, but JJH is not, he is group scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

All my roles help me figure stuff out.

I already tried you, it wasn’t you.

I’ve tried Elsa.

I’ve tried Alchemist.

I’ve tried Panzer.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am objectively town this gamr

You aren't, you lurked out for two days and jumped on the first two people to scumread you. Then immediately claimed a traitor guilty like you had the game solved on the spot. No information gathering, no reaction testing. These are things I expect from a town FL with a red check. Some reasoning on why X is scum with your red check even if it sounds so far out you're in Titus territory.

Not this fit throwing AtE.

Read the most recent

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah well you thought I was 3p this would be....the third day since that read? If you want me to believe you haven't checked me you're gonna have to get creative. You may not even be scum here. I suspect you're 3p but this isn't town FL.

I can’t fucking claim that, though, now can I?

I can win

with

fucking town.

I’m obviously 3rd party, but JJH is not, he is group scum.

Why is it in towns interest to keep you over lynching you? Our wincons aren't the same.

Because I literally do nothing to hurt town, and I can catch our scum with some of these abilities, like JJH.

[Flavor Leaf]

All my roles help me figure stuff out.

I already tried you, it wasn’t you.

I’ve tried Elsa.

I’ve tried Alchemist.

I’ve tried Panzer.

My guess is Tet’s the person i need to link with, and he needs me to not link with him.

These two things aren't fitting.

I’m fucking 3rd party who was trying to survive. I don’t have to have them fit.

Scum me WOULD have them fit, though, and you know that

[Flavor Leaf]

I also tree stump during death, for what it’s worth, so you won’t even get rid of me right away.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also tree stump during death, for what it’s worth, so you won’t even get rid of me right away.

This is a lie, i just am salty

[Flavor Leaf]

All my roles help me figure stuff out.

I already tried you, it wasn’t you.

I’ve tried Elsa.

I’ve tried Alchemist.

I’ve tried Panzer.

My guess is Tet’s the person i need to link with, and he needs me to not link with him.

These two things aren't fitting.

I’m fucking 3rd party who was trying to survive. I don’t have to have them fit.

Scum me WOULD have them fit, though, and you know that

But you aren't town, or even objectively town. Why should we trust that lynching jjh helps the town wincon and not just yours.

Because I was giving you guys a free scum for some town cred so I could coast by and just play until I win.

Jjh is lock scum. I know for a fact he’s a traitor.

[Flavor Leaf]

Tet, Elsa, Alch, Panzer + role cop on jjh.

I have 2 actions. I’ve said this.

Jjh wasn’t a link check he was a role cop.

[Flavor Leaf]

Night 1 I targeted Alchemist and Elsa, i knew my thing with Alchemist went through, my thing with Elsa didn’t.

I didn’t link check with Elsa, but i know it’s not her.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have to use one of my abilities.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s more of a passive ability, that I also target with, if that makes sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

Just vote JJH...

I’m fucked if I’were scum here no matter what. I’m not, though. He will flip traitor.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, seems plausible. We’re probably missing something in that. I don’t necessarily think Mastina is scum.

Jjh is the play here, and I don’t understand the pushback

cafe was kinda townie today, but could be distancing. They seem like they’re okay dying after JJH if they have to, though

[Flavor Leaf]

I was able to role cop last night. He's a traitor.

Uh huh.

Surrrrrre he is.

Sure he's a traitor and you're in no way just fucking bullshitting with a fakeclaim.
In no way could he actually genuinely just be town with you pulling a shitty ass gambit.

Mastina, can you just like...trust it just this once?

I understand what you must be feeling about this, if town, which i believe you to be, but that seems to be the minority here,

Please just trust me this one time here. Simple way to find out. We lynch JJH, who should have already been lynched anyways the day we had the no lynch.

[Flavor Leaf]

-You're claiming to have a functionally 3p wincon that includes the town wincon but is harder than it which is frankly obvious scum!boon fakeclaim bullshit

Oh and by the way.

As an expert in Krazy setup design.

Can confirm that Flavor Leaf's functionally-3p claim is absolute horseshit.

It is absolutely not a role Krazy would design.

So Flavor Leaf is 100% fakeclaiming that shit.

That was before I came out as 3rd party, Mastina. That one was me fake claiming.

[Flavor Leaf]

Please, Mastina...?

If I’m lying powerlynch me tomorrow. Hold everyone here accountable to it.

I’m telling the truth about JJH.

[Flavor Leaf]

Wow. Things have popped off. Is it necessary for me to get into it or is it basically FL going off on tet & how he has a guilty on JJ?

You just need to vote JJH is all. I role copped him, and he’s a Traitor.

Jjh was also stopped as the Day 3 lynch.

There’s zero reason for me to go after JJH of all people if I’m going for a mislynch.

[Flavor Leaf]

Please, Mastina...?

If I’m lying powerlynch me tomorrow. Hold everyone here accountable to it.

I’m telling the truth about JJH.

If we Powerlynch you tommorow you did your job TODAY. It's prime scum tactic 101. "Lynch me tommorow if wrong".

But i don’t play like that. I play to never be lynched. This guarantees me being lynched.

[Flavor Leaf]

There are 14 players alive on Day 5. Why would I ever fake a guilty here as scum?

Well for a start, because you could get away with it on the basis of being Flavor Leaf.
Because Flavor Leaf absolutely fakeclaims a guilty as town, so.

:/

Please?

[Flavor Leaf]

He’s doing what he tends to do.

Which is fakeclaiming out of his ass.

And people are actually voting jjh?

Well to be fair. Jjh was supposed to get lynched almost everyday from what i remember. Not saying FL isn’t pulling this gambit out of his ass but i find it a little weird that now a lot of people are defending him when he was a leading wagon multiple days.

If I’m going to fake guilty someone, it’s not going to be someone who could be lynched with me doing nothing instead.

[Flavor Leaf]

Another tbf you have been doing nothing & he hasn’t gotten lynched every time he was put on the chopping block

I have 377 posts dude. He was put on the chopping block because his partners didn't know he was their traitor until he started crumbing to them.

[Flavor Leaf]

Another tbf you have been doing nothing & he hasn’t gotten lynched every time he was put on the chopping block

I've participated in every single day, I haven't been doing nothing.

I actively was pushing Tet Day 3. I discussed with Panzer a lot there too. I've been doing more than the majority of this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

And me flat out claiming a guilty is doing something, not nothing.

[Flavor Leaf]

Unless its a light defense on JJ but mainly a offense against FL for claiming to have rolecoped him & not have the full role. Am i getting this right

That and the hammer but people do that anyway so bleh.

Besides, notice he also just claimed 3p but also NOT 3p?

Ahh i didn’t notice he took back the claim
I only noticed the claim of 3p

Yeah that hammers happened multiple times now, but i wasn’t thinking too much of it.

You didn't notice it, because Elsa is misrepping me.

Lynch JJH today, if I'm lying lynch me.

It's that simple. After he flips traitor, you don't have to worry about me the rest of the game unless you think I'm bussing him, in which case, lynching JJH is still catching scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Also Flippy - Multiple players are also stating Mastina/Elsa as likely scum. At least Shiro is recently, so please don't take what they say at face value.

They have been lying about being Masons this entire game. If they were masons, theyd be dead by now.

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean. I never said i didnt believe you. On JJh at least

Fair. Can you join the JJh wagon? I don't want them to be able to change the wagon.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, you're right

VOTE: jjh

VOTE: jjh

Implies I'm on the right track though

Yeah fwiw I'd vote either of the scumbutts who just voted me, preferentially in reverse order, but I'm guessing there's not enough time or people who agree with me today

VOTE: JJH

VOTE: Jjh

the entire scumteam voted me consecutively

I think one of them was even a traitor

Jjh clearly is communicating with scum team here, we know Cheeky is town, so we can see jjh is probably trying to mess with us, but I feel it implies at least one scum on him, maybe 2. I could see Cafe/Creature or Cafe/Alchemist, with JJH.

There's better posts to look at, but mafiascum's going really slow for me right now.

This does it anyways. I feel like he could have potentially been trying to frame people after he went down and flipped traitor as well. I talked about some stuff here at the end of Day 3 as well. This is when he should have been lynched, but we got a no lynch.

And that Solar Flare thing Mastina just brought up is extremely nitpicky. Krillin clearly does the Solar Flare, he does it in the Frieza arc on Namek, and that's a pretty memorable moment even for me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Jjh has scum equity just based on how the wagons played out the last few days. So I don't think it's really a defense of jjh more than having a more prevalent scumread on FL.

I'm not scum, though. Just kill JJH first.

If I were scum, you'd have been dead a long time ago.

If I were 3rd party with a killing mechanic, you'd have been dead a long time ago.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have played in multiple games with Alisae and TW, and I've played as scum in games they modded.

I don't play recklessly as scum, everything I do is extremely calculated. It might be way out there, but I generally like to win with all scum alive, so I set that up as scum. This is not that.

The easiest way to confirm if I am telling the truth is to lynch JJH. He will flip scum.


@Tet - I don't ever kill Titus Night 2. Not over this playerlist. I'm really good at mislynching her.

[Flavor Leaf]

Mastina's pushing bad cases. They shot JJH BECAUSE he was their traitor.


I literally can fucking prove it. Scum are pushing me right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

A 3p has no reason to shift the boat anyway. Putting a target on your back like FL is doing isnt 3p no matter how you slice it.

We kill the claimed non-town. We get rid of a threat. We Win. Simple.

So again, vote Flavor and think about it REAL hard.

I'm not a threat to town.

And that's LITERALLY how I played as 3rd party when I won this banner.

[Flavor Leaf]

K, Mastina's just scum. JJH is L-3. hammer this, prosper.

[Flavor Leaf]

Mastina's pushing bad cases. They shot JJH BECAUSE he was their traitor.


I literally can fucking prove it. Scum are pushing me right now.

Well when you called me and Mastie both scum I already knew your reads were bad. I just want you gone now before you somehow get me killed too.

Me and Mastie aren't scum. Plain and simple.

I'm not even the main one calling you both scum. Plain and simple. And I've called you scum or bad town, dont fucking misrep me.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Alchemist - Bus your buddy, JJH.

[Flavor Leaf]

You keep quoting Pink Ball, but Pink Ball's voting with me.

Elsa's probably just bad town.

Mastina's lock scum here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Mastina reads me as scum no matter what alignment I am.

She's only been correct once.

PEdit:

Apparently she thinks I'm town...wtf. VOTE JJH THEN!!!!!!!

[Flavor Leaf]

I always back out of my fake guilties when I'm town. I only have fake guiltied once as town and didn't back down, and that was in 2014.

[Flavor Leaf]

pink ball is hard protecting his buddy right now.

I'd be more inclined to think you're hard protecting Alchemist.

That's fair.

Pink Ball is town, though, and Alchemist is pretty high up on my scum list.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Mastina - If you think I'm town, take a leap of faith and go JJH. My krazy wacky gambits have had much more success than they have any right to have, and you know this.

After JJH flips, I will personally HELP you get your Alchemist lynch.

[Flavor Leaf]

You're just wrong, Mastina. I don't know how else to help you here.

[Flavor Leaf]

You're just wrong, Mastina. I don't know how else to help you here.

this isn't in regards to the Alchemist, it's in regards to everything else.

JJH is 100% scum. He will flip traitor. Alchemist case gets stronger when you consider JJH scum traitor too.

[Flavor Leaf]

Everyone’s trying to call buddies and I’m just trying to lynch lying scum.

I'm trying to lynch CONFIRMED scum.

You're trying to lynch obvtown that you think you need to fakeclaim a guilty on in order to get a lynch--and you're right; you do need to fakeclaim a guilty in order to get a lynch there...because it's on a player that is fucking obvtown.

EXCEPT HE'S NOT TOWN!!!!! You literally just have an incorrect read there.

[Flavor Leaf]

I signed up for Krazy's Anime Upick, not Flavor Leaf's backstory.

I'm not seeing the difference.