Krazy's Anime Upick (Game Over)

[Tet]

{mastina, elsa, xtoxm, tet}
{shiro, skygazer, cafe stile, ali}
{chaos wind, alchemist, PB}
{Creature, EFN, panzer}
{jjh, Titus, FL}

How/why did I get so high up there?

[Tet]

Give some magic to the people that don't have me at the top.

[Tet]

Right now VRV is for not loading any of my saved episodes.

[Tet]

Game wise idk.

I don't feel good about any of chaos, creature, Alch still (I think there was something that made me doubt myself on this read but don't remember what it was). Cafe can be townish for today.

I get where you are coming from with FL, I'm in the same boat but I don't really want to deal with any of the Mason claims yet. Also Mastina is a twofold read. Their early game felt like they were trying to establish themselves as a town leader. That's reinforced by the early Mason claim but after that they dropped off hard and fell back so I don't think I'll ever truly feel comfortable on them. On the other hand I get the impression Scum!Mastina would have more presence so... Obligatory shoulder shrug.

[Tet]

I don't know how to read jjh so I probably won't. Titus resolves herself. FL doesn't make endgame as either alignment so I'm not super worried about him.

[Tet]

Xtoxm, Alchemist you know titus claimed vig right? Why are you voting a self resolving slot?

i did unvote.
but having thought on it, i dont see why she would play in this way as a vig, and scum having some kind of ability that allows an additional kill isnt implauible.
mostly it feels like a waste cus everyone wants to see her produce a body first.

It's more like, I don't think this is the whole story and it behooves town to leave it for the time being.

[Tet]

But... Town behooves.

Every time I post at work jeez.

[Tet]

If FL is scum his partners are voting right now in preparation for the compromise Lynch to move elsewhere near deadline.

[Tet]

Oh only cheeky voted. Meh I retract that read. I still think running FL up this early is poor play. Just him being alive puts scum in a bind regardless of his alignment.

[Tet]

VOTE: Chaos Wind
@Eragon you had enough relaxing, can you go out of your way to push a read? plz and thank

haven't actually relaxed that much uwu summer is still busy just more fun

still think a Titus/panzer scum team is likely

havent really read much of

anything else that I remember

-chaos

Really like this read tbh.

VOTE: Creature

[Tet]

You don't have more posts than me which is a big prerequisite. We both know you're scum creature.

[Tet]

I like the read. But I don't really townread either of you.

[Tet]

I haven't been prodded. Bless you Krazy.

But don't let this distract you from the fact that Alch is scum.

[Tet]

VOTE: Chaos Wind

[Tet]

If we could refrain from vanity wagons T minus 20 hours from EoD that would be FANtastic.

[Tet]

I assumed wifom. Ki powered fists sounds like a krillin kill btw.

[Tet]

I feel like if someone picked dark magician I'd have a different role rn

[Tet]

Alisae how does chaos' Lynch affect your wincon?

[Tet]

Who are your townreads xtoxm?

[Tet]

I wish I could say Titus was killed to discourage VCA but she openly claimed vig. That being said im still kind of murky on whether scum took action on her night 1 or she was just holstering to get enough power to vig panzer.

I don't really think panzer is scum but scum obviously felt threatened by Titus shot and I think that's a really short list of suspects.

[Tet]

well, i've been told his scum game resembles a sack of potatoes
he's not potating in this game

This is accurate.

[Tet]

Except for that one time. But that was a fluke.

[Tet]

Who are your townreads xtoxm?

well, alchemist is and it looks like he's the next popular lynch candidate
if i were to list them all, something like this:
Creature
mastina
Tet
Elsa Jay
Flavor Leaf
CheekyTeeky
Alchemist21
Emperor flippyNips

i would like to see mast or elsa die sooner or later but i guess i still tr them

So you wouldn't mind anyone outside of this list being lynched? Or do you have someone specific in mind?

[Tet]

VOTE: FL

[Tet]

I'll drop my alchemist tunnel for you xtoxm if you sheep me on this.

[Tet]

I'll drop my alchemist tunnel for you xtoxm if you sheep me on this.

i dont sr any of what boon just did.
i need a lot more than this to sheep you on a boon vote when i tr him.
do you think you have something mechanically? i ask, because i struggle to understand your reaction here to his claim.

It's not mechanical, his play hasn't been town and he's coasting on "I'll find all the scum late game because I'm the late game carry".

I don't know how anyone can buy his claim as anything other than an excuse not to scum hunt because he was busy 3p hunting. Even if I were to consider his claim true nothing suggests any remaining 3p were antitown meaning they are not a priority.

FL could have claimed this yesterday after SK flipped but sat on it. My reaction was because I feel FL was using xtoxm as a springboard. X gave the initial thought that scum stifling Titus would only mean protecting panzer (I disagree, there is another slot at risk to being vigged). FL's vote looks like a response to X' list of non pushables from his perspective and pushables by proxy.

[Tet]

The fact Panzer didn’t deny it before proves it, tbh.

There is 100% scum in Pink Ball, Gamma, Tet. Maybe multiple.

You haven't entertained placing a vote on any of your confirmed scum so I don't bite.

[Tet]

The fact Panzer didn’t deny it before proves it, tbh.

There is 100% scum in Pink Ball, Gamma, Tet. Maybe multiple.

You haven't entertained placing a vote on any of your confirmed scum so I don't bite.

There isn’t any confirmed scum in there. There’s just 100% scum in there.

That was a misrep.

100% is equivalent to confirmed. There's no misrep here.

[Tet]

He even brought up why I’m not voting, which as town, I am completely known for abstaining my votes, because I know I am susceptible to flip flopping, and people like to push where I push.

I pointed out you non voting because it wasn't lining up with your thoughts on any of the slots mentioned.

[Tet]

Also, Tet said I was using it as an excuse not to scum hunt...when have I ever not been a try hard scum player? Even games where I coast as scum, there’s a clear setup, none of which has been here. I control games when I am scum.

Is there any resemblance to that at all bar the past few pages? As scum, I make sure the gamestate is in my hands at all times. For Tet to push me as doing nothing scum while being a player who claims to be able to read me, that’s just plain coming from scum.

There's nothing to say the gamestate isn't in scums hands. There are no flipped scum and SK flipping is as good if not better for scum. Which is why I'm surprised you aren't more bothered by the gamestate. You don't have to manipulate the game into your favor if it is already there.

[Tet]

I disagree.

Saying there is 100% scum in a group of 3 doesn’t not mean I know which of the 3 were scum. I could say 70 for you, 50 for you, 40 for pink, but there was scum on my wagon 100%.

Fair enough I took it to mean these 3 are 100% scum not 1 of these 3 are 100% scum.

[Tet]

For Tet to push me as doing nothing scum while being a player who claims to be able to read me, that’s just plain coming from scum.

Speaking of misreps your inactivity was never a part of my read and I didn't bring it up.

Im used to you Fakeclaiming. Outside of newbie queue and the normal you were confirmed IC every game with you has had you Fakeclaiming. But the difference is that is usually something to help you make an impact on the gamestate regardless of alignment. Whereas here you're claiming it was a reaction test to sort a single player.

That's an abnormality FL.

[Tet]

You're jump straight to me scum pushing you is concerning as well knowing that I've openly discussed having an accurate tell on you. I have no intention of revealing it until it fails. But you didn't take the time to consider if I was pushing you to find it. Not acknowledging that is something that comes from Scum!FL more than town!FL.

[Tet]

Piggybacking on my issue with your fakeclaim, the early Mason claim with xtoxm was why I initially townread you. It doesn't exclusively come from Town!FL but it's a claim that leaves yourself open to scum pushing which is in line with your townplay trying not to become an early nightkill.

The recent claim casts doubt on my early reasoning for reading you the way I was.

[Tet]

It's something he does as town but hasn't as scum. There isn't really a time limit for it which may be due to him dying early as town and not as scum. Generally it's an early tell, day 2-3 and I haven't seen it yet. Still scum for me.

[Tet]

For Tet to push me as doing nothing scum while being a player who claims to be able to read me, that’s just plain coming from scum.

Speaking of misreps your inactivity was never a part of my read and I didn't bring it up.

Im used to you Fakeclaiming. Outside of newbie queue and the normal you were confirmed IC every game with you has had you Fakeclaiming. But the difference is that is usually something to help you make an impact on the gamestate regardless of alignment. Whereas here you're claiming it was a reaction test to sort a single player.

That's an abnormality FL.

How so?

I feel like I got multiple reads from it.

I also put all the spotlight on me and made this the focus of the game, thus getting even more reactions.

How was it for one player?

It was put on you via the vote on you being jarring and slots piling on. I haven't considered their votes yet. But you're taking credit where it isn't due.

[Tet]

And like I said before, in Musicals, I scum read you every single day phase, even to a tunnel, so why is that even a defense?

Why does misreading me in musicals matter here?

[Tet]

Omg. Seriously FL? I'd kick your butt if I was anywhere near you.
It doesn't matter what theory you have, you've basically outted me trying to save Tet. Use your brain cells choose someone else.

Unless you also have a result on FL I don't get what forced you to claim.

[Tet]

Now, you wanna go and say that’s not classic Flavor?

Both Tet and Gamma are fully aware of how I play, would you say that is correct?

They have seen me gambit numerous times as town for better or for worse.

And not once have they ever came after me right away like that. They always do the “just let it happen, we can see after. Don’t know what he’s doing, but he’s doing a thing” mindset.

And that’s because they usually are town that has to figure out if I’m town or not.

I don’t believe that is what’s happening at all here. They, at least Tet, is scum who know that I am town, and chose to make a push on me.

You want to 1v1, so be it. Misrep me harder.

VOTE: Tet

I let the Mason thing happen, played along for day 2 even. You know for a fact I've avoided you as scum and would likely kill you over Titus who was appealing to me throughout the day yesterday.

[Tet]

And like I said before, in Musicals, I scum read you every single day phase, even to a tunnel, so why is that even a defense?

Why does misreading me in musicals matter here?

Because it shows I already have a tendency to tunnel town you as town, something you are pushing like it’s an impossibility.

You've called me scum as town sure but musicals is the only time you've tunneled me, that doesn't suggest a tendency to tunnel my town game.

[Tet]

FL isn't scum. Look at the other people on your wagon.
FL is too dumb to be scum here.

I don't know who's on my wagon.

[Tet]

I'm not reading you for tunneling me?

[Tet]

Like yesterday? I don't remember it tbh. I don't remember A LOT of this game.

[Tet]

As white noise, I don't recall anything outside of claiming mason and other people calling you town.

[Tet]

Yeah no I got that. Your flavor doesn't mean anything to me.

[Tet]

Does lightning rod nullify all actions that night?

[Tet]

Randomly?

[Tet]

Sounds like a big FU button.

[Tet]

Why did you believe that one?

And no, it doesn’t nullify, it redirects

Your recent claim? I didn't believe it...

[Tet]

Dunno if that explains anything for night 1. From the flips I would assume most roles start with no ability or minor abilities. Unless scum had roles without the level up limiting it would be safe to say they have the same idea.

[Tet]

That's a weak read as well. Unless my wincon is literally kill FL.

[Tet]

Or Lynch you, whatever. But then I'd just claim a cop check.

[Tet]

Or Lynch you, whatever. But then I'd just claim a cop check.

I don’t think I’ve ever played against ScumYou, but you’d die after that, and I’ve never actually seen someone do that, but i have seen scum say stuff like that to me.

Normally they pull an Una or Vorkuta and go “we can keep FL in check, and probably mislynch him later” or the more successful route, pocket me, then kill me off a little later in the game during my flip flop stage.

I was scum against you in the newbie queue. You were just kind of there, Varsoon backed scum into a corner.

But still I wouldn't care about dying if it fulfilled my wincon.

[Tet]

His flavour claim is some Hikaru no go char.

[Tet]

That's a weak read as well. Unless my wincon is literally kill FL.

No, you started pushing me after I claimed that I could find 3rd party.

You also were theorizing about “no more 3rd party kills that aren’t delayed”

It’s not a weak read. It’s a viable case, even if it ends up being wrong.

There is 3rd party equity within you.

We both know it was a fakeclaim, Ive been arguing against the application of it and not the claim itself.

If you feel I've softed a delayed killing role why would I care about you claiming 3p checker without a result on me. I'd probably be powered up by now. Or at least by night phase.

[Tet]

I need to know age and gender.

Is this relevant to your role?

[Tet]

He didn't claim lightning rod, just suggested there was one. I assume you know my roles age/gender then?

[Tet]

i can fullclaim the other parts of my role if that is something that interests people
its not very exciting but yeah
/shrug

What parts of your claim did you call already?

[Tet]

Lol @ PB carrying the game.

You know it babe.

Not but for real, I have a theory, a game theory, that it's pretty cool.

Lol I actually like game theory. Shoot I'm already in.

[Tet]

Cheeky you've double pocketed me. Don't be scum VOTE: Alchemist

Friendly reminder FL is scum this game.

[Tet]

Tet doesn't need a prod, Tet was sleeping. Tet is...talking in 3rd person...now?

[Tet]

I'll be around near deadline I think. Jjh I don't have a read on you either way. Can I assume your preferred Lynch order is Alch, creature, cafe?

[Tet]

Who was hit with a demon bullet yesterday?

[Tet]

NVM it was Alch. It doesn't sound friendly and I was hit with it after Cheeky confirmed me as town. Pretty strongly indicative of Alchemist being town. I'm cool with a gamma or jjh lynch.

[Tet]

In fact maybe we can speed run today VOTE: Gamma

[Tet]

I'm wondering if this demon bullet business works like an arsonist seeing that Alch hasn't kicked the bucket yet.

[Tet]

Someone received a demon bullet, I wanna hear about it first.

[Tet]

Someone received a demon bullet, I wanna hear about it first.

I think it might be an odd-night thing. Mine came N1, yours came N3. Nobody’s claimed it from N2.

I know who's ability that is, BY THE WAY. Not the specifics, but I know who it is. I think it's only dangerous if you're scum or 3rd party. I no longer think Tet is 3rd party, for what its worth.

Well yeah I was cop cleared.

[Tet]

I've got 10% and a cable that won't charge. I'll get around to it in a bit if I can get that situated.

[Tet]

I'm down to flip FL to confirm jjh scum.

[Tet]

Just realized this could be multiball potentially.

Anyway Xtoxm you asked for my townreads, but they're all dead except for Shiro and Alchemist. Stopped caring about the Mason claims, they're negative utility regardless of alignment.

VOTE: FL sheep me.

[Tet]

Like I don't really care who does it doesn't townread FL. If he's town then jjh is confirmed scum. If he flips traitor cool, if he flips goon then scum spent the shot on him and PB can get off his Alch tunnel.

It's really a win/win/win.

Conversely lynching jjh first doesn't confirm FL regardless of flip. And his defense will be that he never busses except for Vorkuta that one time. But we're also playing mafia so.

[Tet]

Yeah well you thought I was 3p this would be....the third day since that read? If you want me to believe you haven't checked me you're gonna have to get creative. You may not even be scum here. I suspect you're 3p but this isn't town FL.

[Tet]

I am objectively town this gamr

You aren't, you lurked out for two days and jumped on the first two people to scumread you. Then immediately claimed a traitor guilty like you had the game solved on the spot. No information gathering, no reaction testing. These are things I expect from a town FL with a red check. Some reasoning on why X is scum with your red check even if it sounds so far out you're in Titus territory.

Not this fit throwing AtE.

[Tet]

Yeah well you thought I was 3p this would be....the third day since that read? If you want me to believe you haven't checked me you're gonna have to get creative. You may not even be scum here. I suspect you're 3p but this isn't town FL.

I can’t fucking claim that, though, now can I?

I can win

with

fucking town.

I’m obviously 3rd party, but JJH is not, he is group scum.

Why is it in towns interest to keep you over lynching you? Our wincons aren't the same.

[Tet]

All my roles help me figure stuff out.

I already tried you, it wasn’t you.

I’ve tried Elsa.

I’ve tried Alchemist.

I’ve tried Panzer.

My guess is Tet’s the person i need to link with, and he needs me to not link with him.

These two things aren't fitting.

[Tet]

All my roles help me figure stuff out.

I already tried you, it wasn’t you.

I’ve tried Elsa.

I’ve tried Alchemist.

I’ve tried Panzer.

My guess is Tet’s the person i need to link with, and he needs me to not link with him.

These two things aren't fitting.

I’m fucking 3rd party who was trying to survive. I don’t have to have them fit.

Scum me WOULD have them fit, though, and you know that

But you aren't town, or even objectively town. Why should we trust that lynching jjh helps the town wincon and not just yours.

[Tet]

All my roles help me figure stuff out.

I already tried you, it wasn’t you.

I’ve tried Elsa.

I’ve tried Alchemist.

I’ve tried Panzer.

How did you fit 5 checks in 4 nights?

[Tet]

Tet, Elsa, Alch, Panzer + role cop on jjh.

[Tet]

So you're also multitasking?

[Tet]

Jjh has scum equity just based on how the wagons played out the last few days. So I don't think it's really a defense of jjh more than having a more prevalent scumread on FL.

[Tet]

Zanku fist* that's what it was.

[Tet]

A 3p has no reason to shift the boat anyway. Putting a target on your back like FL is doing isnt 3p no matter how you slice it.

We kill the claimed non-town. We get rid of a threat. We Win. Simple.

So again, vote Flavor and think about it REAL hard.

Thank you.

[Tet]

@Tet - I don't ever kill Titus Night 2. Not over this playerlist. I'm really good at mislynching her.

That's situational. Titus was a claimed vig which is a threat to scum and also makes it tough to mislynch her.

[Tet]

That makes ascetic strongman one of xtoxm flippy or Elsa no?

[Tet]

So. Did someone get a demon bullet last night?

I was shot by a demon bullet.

N3 I was hit by a demon bullet. Different flavor.

I assume because the bullets stacked?

[Tet]

Wtf do the bullets do?

[Tet]

I'm pretty sure. But cafe and shiro are tied via Shiros claim.

[Tet]

Whoops posted early. But yeah. Shiro didn't target Mastina correct? Mastina could still be the ascetic and a lover but I'm fine lynching there today. If anything it makes flippy/xtoxm a 50/50 minimum.

[Tet]

I thought arsonist at first but there wouldn't be a need to target me twice. I was told I was shot at this time but that I wasn't dead.

[Tet]

Was going to say it may have to do with a specific age group but krillin wouldn't be a teen.

[Tet]

If anything it makes flippy/xtoxm a 50/50 minimum.

where the fuck are you getting this from?
and why would i claim miller and make this game 10x harder for myself if i was ascetic
???
people are actually just terrible at mafia

I'll try to be less shit. But if one of you two flips ascetic, shame on you.

[Tet]

Tet seemed to want to setup a push on me, but his conf townieness is off.

Is a godfather possible?

Cheeky checked flavor and then alignment so.

[Tet]

Are we assuming 3v7? Fine with flipping Alch today, Auro tomorrow.

[Tet]

Fair enough forgot more 3p is a thing.

[Tet]

Panzer what are the bullets for.

[Tet]

Doubt panzer is a killing role or there would have been three targets instead of Alch, me x2.

[Tet]

So. Did someone get a demon bullet last night?

I was shot by a demon bullet.

N3 I was hit by a demon bullet. Different flavor.

I assume because the bullets stacked?

[Tet]

Someone spoon-feed me who the nonflipped slots that pushed on Cafe are. I would like them hanged.

[Tet]

You can watch fruits basket - brotherhood from this season but its very very shoujo, probably not everyones cup of tea
This also automatically clears me because mafias flavour is shounen and im shoujo

*finger gun*

This isn't accurate because I'm from a shonen but scum doesn't self clear like this. Errr Cafe!Scum specifically.

[Tet]

Also why are we assuming the N1 was a traitor recruit when jjh flipped traitor?

[Tet]

....wait whut....

[Tet]

Oh fair, I was under the impression that the assumption was Scum were shonen characters.

[Tet]

Because there's a big fat chance that Flavor is scum

Welp I think I love you.

[Tet]

Also why are we assuming the N1 was a traitor recruit when jjh flipped traitor?

I’m thinking that it’s N4 recruitment, not night 1.

He still had no role change which I would expect from a recruitable traitor. I'll reread his flip but ehh.

[Tet]

we dont have claims from auro or tet? did i miss that somewhere

I flavorclaimed as Boogiepop. I won't be role claiming.

[Tet]

thats fine, you're cop cleared

Is anyone else cleared? Who was cop?

Cafe is soft cleared.

[Tet]

Panzer let's not play again.

[Tet]

FL I'm cleared as town twice just pretend I'm not here.

[Tet]

Oh I didn't consider panzers claim. If he's town then I'm cleared three times.

[Tet]

I'll bite on this 1v1 VOTE: Elsa

[Tet]

A hunter/hunted like situation, which would also fit the 4 third party claims.

Doubt this. This would mean both leaving which would make it a theoretical 6 in one night.

That's just the claims. Someone outside of Elsa/panzer could be lying.

[Tet]

Nah I'm good.

[Tet]

Oooo. VOTE: Flippy even better.

[Tet]

I guarantee there will be at least one vanilla town and at least one mafia goon

Stop calling me GF FL.

[Tet]

Who cares, we 50/50 on a guilty claim.

[Tet]

Well Im actually picking between you and panzer who are also mechanically in a 1v1.

[Tet]

Mastina died day 6. You said you checked Alch night 4.

[Tet]

Do you only have 3 shots? You don't have anything for the last two nights.

[Tet]

You missed 3 checks then?

[Tet]

Flippy directly contradicts panzers claim. We Lynch flippy and on a scum flip Alch is confirmed and Elsa is confirmed scum. Town flip and Alch+panzer are confscum and Elsa is pretty much cleared.

[Tet]

No seriously, how the hell are you coming up with me and flippy being partners?

You're scum irregardless of Flippy's alignment

Sorry. I hate to be this guy. Irregardless isn't a word.

[Tet]

Panzer can only target town if town and Alch received a bullet. He's townclearing Alch. Elsa isn't conf!town if Flippy is town but it's unlikely he's bussing right now in particular unprompted.

[Tet]

Irregardless isn't a word

Please just irregard Mr Grammer Nazi here.

The prefix is just redundant. Irregardless is without without regard when regardless already means without regard. Fite me.

[Tet]

Ihy all q.q

[Tet]

Don't mind me I'm just angry with my choice of charcoal and the consequences of said choice.

[Tet]

No u VOTE: Alchemist

[Tet]

Elsa tomorrow. If we don't have numbers then meh probably for the best.

[Tet]

Elsa and then FL probably.

[Tet]

Why was PB the night kill, as opposed to confirmed town such as Tet?

A.) So FL can keep pushing me as godfather
Or
B.) So we can push FL for pushing me as godfather

Also I'm 0 efforting and scum know I'm VT by now.

[Tet]

That's what I meant by confirmed twice.

[Tet]

As I'm the only unclaimed and no one claimed VT which there is at least 1 guaranteed. No reason for scum to feel threatened.

[Tet]

Did they, thought they flipped named townie.

[Tet]

No you're right they were VT. Well fuck me.

[Tet]

Yep.

[Tet]

Why is Elsa not scum? What makes you believe there are 2 scum and not 3?

I don’t know who the 3rd is.

Elsa could very well be, but that requires them to have triple bussed, which I kinda called out.

Flips being Town makes me less sure on Elsa.


I think Xtoxm wins this game as a SK.

If we mislynch here he doesn't.

[Tet]

And by that I mean tomorrow.

[Tet]

Jesus I am not into this game at all. Kill me dudes.

[Tet]

VOTE: Tet got me, I was solo godfather.

[Tet]

I mean like, we could have tried to convince xtoxm to townside after we lynched flippy but that was...effort. and idk if "I promise scum won't shoot you in the two nights to lylo" really gets him onboard.

GG everyone.

Also, do I lead a lynch on the cop with 2 guilties over panzers guilty out of spite again? Probably every time.

[Tet]

I didn’t want to kill you necessarily the first time we shot you.

The second time it just made sense to keep the other people alive.

I wanted Tet alive and you were the other conf townie.

I also figured out Tet was Vanilla pretty early. Cheeky helped with that, along with knowing I was a Vanilla.

I'm faking the guilty on you next time you roll scum. And I will know, you haven't figured out your town tell yet.