Newbie 1943: Crosswords (Game Over)

[cyrus62]

its ok lich you have 14 hours to pick one

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mod can we get a vote count

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mod can we get a vote count

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no town die by mistake but no scum die either and one town die at night

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why would a towny want a no lynch?

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i wii make this know here and now im not okay with a cyan lynch so i will not vote them

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show me why they anit town

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their is 9 people 5 needed for a lynch my vote doesn't matter today and also like i said case him show me hes not town other wise your openly voteing town to me.

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to be fair its wi bit hard to give info when every time you turn around some one else is replaceing in or out

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now that you gave your reasons let cyan defend it .

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cyan is on ora with are 1st game so im pretty sure hes town im willing to lynch sera since they ran up a pr on day1

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pra

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fine if i have to i will but im going wait i rather lynch sera

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mod can we get a vote count

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VOTE: Cyan. after seeing i have no choise i vote cyan not that i wanted to

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7 hours till end of day 1

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i keep asking for vote count and deadline update but i havent got it yet i think we are down to 4 and half hours

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and cyan is at l1 not that i wanted to but no one seemd to want to vote any one else

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i was very upset that town forced a pr clime on d1 even voiced it

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serea nd spangled forced lich to clime at intent or be lynch they tried to stop at soft

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vt dul

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always vt unless you can find scum then you hard

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letting the cat out of the bag neffs the pr

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the way i see it now the cops been tag d1 scum now have edge with only 4 hours and we dont know who is who but they know the cop so now they just have to think or is most likely the other pr if there is one cuse cop could be alone . and if it is alone then they just have to sniff till they find thire isnt one and in case kill the cop now the cop cant find scum if there is a rb.

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so what good is a cop if taged on day 1?

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right, now the person who claimed is supposed to be experienced enough to know that so lets say they arent cop, what are they, who benefits from that claim? we can talk about the other situation in a sec.

ok good point so you have a maybe cop lich. two town who ran the maybe cop to l1 and with intent who may also be scum which is spangled and sera and spangled and lich are willing to kill off the only person who we all know most liely to be town.

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so one of the three is most like;y scum and the other two town or two scum working together thats my thoughts

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isuse is not enough vote counts this game to find who was on the wagon as cyan came in and gos every one who was voteing lich needs to unvote now so we couldn t see the wagon

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wait so both prs outed them selfs on d1

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yep thats not good

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at this point spangled is two for two

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spanglead has pulled out both prs and no one thinks hes scum

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UNVOTE: cyanVOTE: Spangled lets at least see if the prs can do something if they are prs

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i was also scumm reading you spanglead

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your votes manage to get 2 prs to out them selfs on day 1 and now ones dead

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Spoiler:

yeah my vote isnt moving, You are not cop, My guess is there is a mafia RB, and you are claiming a role that exists 2/3 of the time. you want a CC so you can RB the cop. and kill someone else, effectively canceling out the cop. You are likely not the RB, as you made the claim.

Post 893 has some information that would argue otherwise.

um, sorry, i meant 892. whoops

anyway, consider what i'm implying behind my statement. it would tell you that there likely isn't a Mafia RB if TL is lying with his cop claim

what are you implying? that you are a PR too? because if you are stop. Otherwise you are willing to accept a claim, even though a fake one has already been made. Are you not curious why a PR wouldnt interrogate a fake claim, or atleast ask them a question? also why hard claim when no one asks for it? we had a soft claim, it satisfied everyone apparently up to this point, why be explicit?

Said fakeclaim was most likely an obvious attempt at a joke. I'm not sure how you seem to be seeing it, but it doesn't look like a claim people would take very seriously. He didn't interrogate it because he thought Phone was fucking around, plain and simple.

And yes, I am willing to accept this claim. I hinted at myself being PR because I was (and still am) in danger of being lynched. There's also the point you made that he decided to hardclaim out of the blue; need I tell you that he was being pushed by

you?

He implied in his claim that he shifted to a hardclaim because you were pushing him.

right here

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sounds like he might have blocked you since he knew who the two prs were by voteing you and cyan

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Spoiler:

yeah my vote isnt moving, You are not cop, My guess is there is a mafia RB, and you are claiming a role that exists 2/3 of the time. you want a CC so you can RB the cop. and kill someone else, effectively canceling out the cop. You are likely not the RB, as you made the claim.

Post 893 has some information that would argue otherwise.

um, sorry, i meant 892. whoops

anyway, consider what i'm implying behind my statement. it would tell you that there likely isn't a Mafia RB if TL is lying with his cop claim

what are you implying? that you are a PR too? because if you are stop. Otherwise you are willing to accept a claim, even though a fake one has already been made. Are you not curious why a PR wouldnt interrogate a fake claim, or atleast ask them a question? also why hard claim when no one asks for it? we had a soft claim, it satisfied everyone apparently up to this point, why be explicit?

Said fakeclaim was most likely an obvious attempt at a joke. I'm not sure how you seem to be seeing it, but it doesn't look like a claim people would take very seriously. He didn't interrogate it because he thought Phone was fucking around, plain and simple.

And yes, I am willing to accept this claim. I hinted at myself being PR because I was (and still am) in danger of being lynched. There's also the point you made that he decided to hardclaim out of the blue; need I tell you that he was being pushed by

you?

He implied in his claim that he shifted to a hardclaim because you were pushing him.

right here

at lich

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this is why i was so pisst off off yesterday about both prs being outed now lich may as well just be town but then again it is easy to say your cop as scum maybe the real pr is still hideing still
but i will trust for another day. regardless.

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regardless, my vote's on Spangled, treat this as D1 where not voting is scummy

im wwaiting for others reactions on the nights death before i vote

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Unfortunately I have no idea what you mean by that, and a doubtless clever joke is utterly wasted to me.
But VTs don’t often soft PR, so I can see why scum would consider it an actual claim.

WIFOM except weirder.

yeah, a PR soft is likely to be from a PR.

Still, it doesn't bode well that scum shoots the PR soft instead of the most overpowered role in the setup.

well tl look what pr they took out i think it was a very smart move they took out the doc and blocked the cop. in a way we cant afford a mis lynch today . after all if we lynch any no offince if we cant find the scum as of now the cop role is useless

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=80175 newest completed game proving my town role more

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just showing i am ramdom thats how i play always random

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Spoiler:

Unfortunately I have no idea what you mean by that, and a doubtless clever joke is utterly wasted to me.
But VTs don’t often soft PR, so I can see why scum would consider it an actual claim.

WIFOM except weirder.

yeah, a PR soft is likely to be from a PR.

Still, it doesn't bode well that scum shoots the PR soft instead of the most overpowered role in the setup.

if your cop claim is really true, that means there is a 50% chance of a mafia roleblocker

In the case of a cop+mafia RB, there is a 50% chance of a doctor. Mafia probably doesn’t wanna take the chance of shooting you and have the doctor save you - in that case, there are two PRs alive and the cop got a check.

Mafia has setup knowledge that town does not - so on second thought, even if I do have a bit of a hard time believing your claim, I do think a roleblock is feasible
UNVOTE: lich

if thats the case whats the since of a cop after all they will just keep getting blocked. so even if lich is cop we teat them like just town till the rb is found.

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good now i can do reads took so long for every one to post so here it is

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town
lich cop clime
cyan flip doc
spangled town
red null
rob scum lean
sera scum lean
me watcher
wenmester town lean
adoable townish

sorry to throse who replaced in i couldn't remember all your names yet but there is my read it took 16 days to get enough information to give a good read i dont just hand these out i study carefully and will do cases on why i find you scummy later on also pc isuse still happening but will keep playing though as much as i can looking to get a new charger soon.

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Shooting Cyan (softed a PR) instead of me (a claimed cop) is some major blue liquid in front of me

he literally gave away his role 2 times. HIS EXACT ROLE. If you read the setup information post (2) then you would understand this

you seem to very smart i like your follow though and will most likely sheep your vote . this game is way to far over the place in a 16 day 1st day we should have been able to find all of scum and i get I'm not helping much i just felt it was super bad for us for both prs to out them selfs on d1 if you think lich isn't telling the truth am inclend to have faith in it. been having a pc issue for almost 10days now.

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watcher aka im seeing who comes off as scumist out of all the post and going to push some one on this day.

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yes bit if he flips cop we have no prs and then we have to trust town to find the scum and do you really trust town lol.

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i mean realy so far only two or three town are good at hunting and looking the rest seem to blindly follow. but heres a another random queston . since we know theres rb out there whats to say lich isnt the rb?

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i wanted to add i didnt excastly push for a lynch i was asking what others thoughts were . but also i throw the idea out with out posting a vote. also the game was delay d for 5 days over .these two

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as stetted i am having issues with my pc so i am posting as much as i can

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@mod can you put me on vacation till the 1st

Done

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I do have to agree on eth0s post on #1131 and it's like half of the players have different scum reads and we can't even come to an agreement on who to lynch. Whoever are scum, I start to wonder if they are posting for the sake of posting and plan on having another no lynch.

Since the clock has been ticking ever since Sera left like 10 days ago, and now we even have Cyrus going on vacation until after the deadlin, pretty sure it is gg lol

charger isuse still happening so i asked for that.

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]probably the former, with that in mind it seems it makes sense as a good scumcase, I had thought you scumread cyrus because Cyan claimed doc.

I didn't have a real reason to include that part besides being frustrated. I saw Cyan's flip in the modpost so when I came across Cyan saying Cyrus wasn't playing by his normal meta, I figured Cyan was killed for it. Then I got to the part where he outed his pr and realized literally any scum would kill him for that. Although I'm still trying to come up with a firm reason as to why they would kill him and rb you, rather than rb you and kill him. He wasn't participating much, you were flipping only any wagon that came up. Part of me thinks it makes sense for that reason, the other part of me thinks they would leave you and try to get you to vote with them.

no i can see why cyan over lich think about it cyan said he belived lich post of cop to be true meaning he outed him self as a pr doc scum would kill doc over cop so cyan couldnt save lich

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and im going to vite my strongest scum read VOTE: osuka

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becuse rob felt scummy the whole time to me ever hear of lamist

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rob and osuka appear to be trying very hard to come off as town to every one do a iso on them both and your see what i mean aka look at me im so town

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I disagree wholeheartedly as to Robb, but you do need to look at people's replacements in case your initial reads are wrong.
Hm. I'll look back at osuka.

This post was at cyrus.

that's the point of lamist is to fool every one in to thinking they are town i get scum bumps where i can as to not see me coming off as to townish but rather you agree with my read or not my vote wont change .

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]probably the former, with that in mind it seems it makes sense as a good scumcase, I had thought you scumread cyrus because Cyan claimed doc.

I didn't have a real reason to include that part besides being frustrated. I saw Cyan's flip in the modpost so when I came across Cyan saying Cyrus wasn't playing by his normal meta, I figured Cyan was killed for it. Then I got to the part where he outed his pr and realized literally any scum would kill him for that. Although I'm still trying to come up with a firm reason as to why they would kill him and rb you, rather than rb you and kill him. He wasn't participating much, you were flipping only any wagon that came up. Part of me thinks it makes sense for that reason, the other part of me thinks they would leave you and try to get you to vote with them.

no i can see why cyan over lich think about it cyan said he belived lich post of cop to be true meaning he outed him self as a pr doc scum would kill doc over cop so cyan couldnt save lich

You know they could have just roleblocked the doctor and killed Temporal though, no? And assuming temporal is cop, he will likely be roleblocked every night now until he dies. It would have been the same situation if they killed Temporal and blocked Cyan every night.

However, it does seem more likely that Cyan was telling the truth than Temporal. Not because we can see the flip but because Cyan was the second to claim (which would be SUPER ballsy for a fake claim) and he even kinda called out that there was probably a mafia roleblocker.

Cyrus, I still want to know why you said you wouldn't vote for Cyan (who had already softclaimed) and then very shortly after, changed you mind and voted him.

i felt forced to vote the way sapngled said i felt i was aiming for a no lynch complead me to vote if you read what i said ,i said i did not want to vote him even when i did and after i seen his soft i unvoted preventing scum from lynching him.

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I disagree wholeheartedly as to Robb, but you do need to look at people's replacements in case your initial reads are wrong.
Hm. I'll look back at osuka.

This post was at cyrus.

that's the point of lamist is to fool every one in to thinking they are town i get scum bumps where i can as to not see me coming off as to townish but rather you agree with my read or not my vote wont change .

Are you threatening me with your vote, or am I reading that wrong?

what how in any way did i threaten you i said it wont change my vote

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I would also like to go on record saying that I'm going to need Whemestar and Adorable to start making more posts with some sort of substance or goal in mind. You two are starting to weird me out the the low effort on wheme and low content on Adorable.

I've voted one of my suspects but I feel as if I'm getting ignored.

it happens but you can be my little ace in the hole i know your town by the way your reads are and i can sheep a few people and go off thire reads tl reads seem to say the same and if i can narrow down who is own and not i can fine scum easyer.

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i felt forced to vote the way sapngled said i felt i was aiming for a no lynch complead me to vote if you read what i said ,i said i did not want to vote him even when i did and after i seen his soft i unvoted preventing scum from lynching him.

Hmm. I see now. I think you identified the soft later than I originally thought you did. But your response begs the question, why do you feel compelled to vote the way spangled does? And why did you change your mind about him being scum earlier? You went from saying that he and Sera were rolefishing, to saying that he wasn't rolefishing and maybe Sera wasn't either. And you made that change without any explanation as far as I can tell.

after re reading tl and the way they acted i felt maybe tl was begging to be put to l1 just so they could out them self's . but also felt they could have just said i am tv and maybe advoided the lynch by defending them self's easier better so maybe it wasn't spangleds fault for what tl did and as i said i prefer sera over cyan but didn't want a no lynch and seeing how we were down to 12 hours i had to sheep some one. and the only reason i scum read them is the fire power they did and then fizzed out.

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I would also like to go on record saying that I'm going to need Whemestar and Adorable to start making more posts with some sort of substance or goal in mind. You two are starting to weird me out the the low effort on wheme and low content on Adorable.

I've voted one of my suspects but I feel as if I'm getting ignored.

it happens but you can be my little ace in the hole i know your town by the way your reads are and i can sheep a few people and go off thire reads tl reads seem to say the same and if i can narrow down who is own and not i can fine scum easyer.

I have made cases on players who I think are scum and who I think are town and I guess players are ignoring me because they are town reading me and they would rather focus on their scum read.

to be honest like i said cyan was on pra with thire 1st game so i felt he was town trying to hide. scum aim for better town so being weaker town keeps us off scum radar maybe it is mybe it is good maybe it is bad so i was ignoreing the cyan part.

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this is cute

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i grow weary

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spangled i know your town but dont over do it if there is a rb out there tl cant prove if they are cop or not and scum will pick us off lay low and only do cases if you are sure.

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its best to sheep or make guess until the rb is found. then if tl is cop they can flag the other scum

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if i prove to be to good of town they kill me

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It has been a pretty tiring game, what with the annoying number of rep-outs and catch-ups.

Pedit:
Don’t over do what?

fyi that was a very odd thing for whem to say

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am I really the only one that finds it so weird that every reads all of cyrus posts as being townie? also why does adorable not feel suspicious of cyrus when apparently one of her biggest scumtells is when someone is townread by like everyone? that applies to cyrus here

so 1st im scummy now im to town lets see cyan thought i was off. osaka thought i was scummy sera thought i was scummy so what is it.

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connorcompton
Cyan Talon
TemporalLich (SE)
Robbnva (SE)

I think scumteam is between these people and i think temporal is most likeliest mafia here, least likeliest probably alpha m

I think Wheme is scum. I also forgot to mention these are the list of players Red thinks are the scum team and Wheme agreed with Red's list of scum team players and some of the players listed as the scum team doesn't make sense because Robb and Temp have been scum reading each other. Wheme agreeing with Red looked like he is scum.

Bad post

VOTE: Adorable

I don't think 1198 is a bad post, the vote smells like OMGUS to me.

whem is scared he will get lynchd so hes trying to wagon adorable insted

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VOTE: WhemeStar

Time to put my vote where it matters.

Good case cyrus

i wouldn't call it a case more like a obviation

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connorcompton
Cyan Talon
TemporalLich (SE)
Robbnva (SE)

I think scumteam is between these people and i think temporal is most likeliest mafia here, least likeliest probably alpha m

I think Wheme is scum. I also forgot to mention these are the list of players Red thinks are the scum team and Wheme agreed with Red's list of scum team players and some of the players listed as the scum team doesn't make sense because Robb and Temp have been scum reading each other. Wheme agreeing with Red looked like he is scum.

Bad post

VOTE: Adorable

What about it is so?

The read list is old af. One guy flipped PR the other is a claimed PR. How is that post good? All he’s trying to do is discredit me and it worked cause 2 people just voted me for some reason. Me agreeing with that list In the past doesn’t make me scum lmao

i thought you were phones replacement

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also i think adorable is trying to say reds reads post were wrong

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Spoiler:

connorcompton
Cyan Talon
TemporalLich (SE)
Robbnva (SE)

I think scumteam is between these people and i think temporal is most likeliest mafia here, least likeliest probably alpha m

I think Wheme is scum. I also forgot to mention these are the list of players Red thinks are the scum team and Wheme agreed with Red's list of scum team players and some of the players listed as the scum team doesn't make sense because Robb and Temp have been scum reading each other. Wheme agreeing with Red looked like he is scum.

Bad post

VOTE: Adorable

What about it is so?

The read list is old af. One guy flipped PR the other is a claimed PR. How is that post good? All he’s trying to do is discredit me and it worked cause 2 people just voted me for some reason. Me agreeing with that list In the past doesn’t make me scum lmao

also thats her scum case on you so its so posed to discredit you as town

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also i think adorable is trying to say reds reads post were wrong

Yeah and it was because 2 out of 4 flipped PR.

People can argue with each other and be scum together

this is true but wouldn't that be saying rob/osaka and temp are scum even though temp is are pr?

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It was a bad OMGUS post

but didnt adoable vote you 1st so wouldnt you be omgus her since you voted her after she voted you

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what we have here is a misunderstanding not svt but tvt ok im off for a bit

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watcher out

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VOTE: Cyrus

wow ok that was random and spicy whats your case or reason

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VOTE: Adorable

i pretty sure your town but your not making your self look good mate

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VOTE: Adorable

i pretty sure your town but your not making your self look good mate

Why

the way your voteing you can park your vote k

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nai i think i have discovered hell i am trapped between cold and heat.

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Honestly I'm wondering if we just lynch sera today and look at associates on the flip. Like I really don't know what else to do and I have read this game extensively and can't even form opinions on anyone anymore.

careful i said that basically about connor and phone and got scum read.

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Spoiler:

VOTE: Cyrus

wow ok that was random and spicy whats your case or reason

I’m dumb I thought you voted me

UNVOTE:

what

this is a really weird post from an otherwise reasonably towny slot

Why’s that

there's more than one statement in that post. what's "that"?

Why is my post weird

the way you omgus'd that slot and then backpedaled hard after you realized something was off was just really off-character for you so far in this thread

i think he was just confused it can happen

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Spoiler:

On day 1 most of the players were scum reading you and they voted you. I didn't think scum would join a bandwagon on their scum buddy on day 1. Spangled, Cyrus, and I were the only ones who did not scum read/vote you. The interaction between Robb and Cyrus did not look like a scum team which leaves Spangled left.

i think you're too quick to draw association reads

i don't think this slot was ever in danger of being lynched, so in a world where I am scum, anyone in that train could have been my partner. If we were talking about lich, then that becomes a bit different (since you could reasonably conclude that he was in real danger of being lynched before claiming cop)

Wasn’t Robb run up to at least L-3?
Pretty sure he was definitely in danger of being lynched at some point, IIRC.

L-3 in a newbie d1 means you have two votes on you. That's completely meaningless

Sorry, he was L-1 briefly.
Phone RVS'ed him (I hope) when he was at L-2.

your right he was l1 before i told phone he was could have been hammerd very quickly.

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so helping others not look bad is scummy makes a note on this dont help others .

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you realize whem looked bad from day 1 but i think hes town

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two mis lyches away from loseing so im trying to only look out for others

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two mis lyches away from loseing so im trying to only look out for others

but you don't know who anyone else's role is.. unless?

this is true but im mostly trying to helpo thorse i twon read such as whem 'i'd hope others would help me

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cyrus, what is your lynchpool at the moment?

oshiak /rob spangled who was able to find both prs on day 1 entohs who seems more willing to lynch town then to scum hunt that's it.

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btw every one playing this game neeeds a medal its not every day that a game takes over 24 days to reach day 3 so win or lose good game all

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The same thing can be said about Wheme.

#788 Town reads Spangled, Osuka, Temp, me
#802 Says if he's wrong about Cyan on day 1 he will look at Cyrus on day 2
#1191 Responds to Cyrus post and says he doesn't see scum making this post
#1197 Says if I flip scum he will look at Spangled or Cyrus
#1247 Says Spangled is town
#1316 Says he thinks Cyrus is town

I don't understand what Wheme is doing here and he is also voting without even providing a reason which is very frowned upon.

relax man they need a lynch other wise they wont lynch any one so its cool notist how spangled hasnt done nothing but follow he didnt excatly push linch or cyan he let sera do it and then let lich do it hes basicly doing pusshes after some one starts them and then acting like he is.

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Spoiler:

The same thing can be said about Wheme.

#788 Town reads Spangled, Osuka, Temp, me
#802 Says if he's wrong about Cyan on day 1 he will look at Cyrus on day 2
#1191 Responds to Cyrus post and says he doesn't see scum making this post
#1197 Says if I flip scum he will look at Spangled or Cyrus
#1247 Says Spangled is town
#1316 Says he thinks Cyrus is town

I don't understand what Wheme is doing here and he is also voting without even providing a reason which is very frowned upon.

Things is, you can TR someone and still say who you would look at if they flip scum.

And, also, Adorable, you’re missing the main point of my cyrus case — most of the flip-flopping is based around his perceptions of the same event — me and Sera pushing TL to claim.

wait is that your may point that i been trying to see if your town or scum becuse you ran the cop to l1 and forced a clime in whice case they could die tonight and bioth prs were ran up by you lol. so baslicly your saying hey i fucked town royaly but dont be mad at me town always trys to get the prs to out them selfs.

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@temp who’d you investigate last night?

temp cant tell you cuse spangeld put them to l1 abd made her clim so scum has it to where temps useles and this is why i was so upset about spangled and sera running them up to l1 and forceing a clim basicly.

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just stating what was already knew if he had read the game. completely so the question was pointless if he caught up right

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thats a racap of day 1 sorry the game has been going on since july 1st

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it reads very strangely if you go day by day

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temp whats your longest game?

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this game should be going on day 4 but still in day 2

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i mean rl time from day one to day 12 how long did that take was it on here

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this ones going on a month for two days i

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this ones going on a month for two days i

yeah... this game feels stalled and we need to do something...

too bad people think you're scum who needs to be lynched

look who is stalling it ethos and spangled .

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Spoiler:

Temporal still making bad posts with bad logic, game still being hard to read, cyrus still being cyrus, wheme still defending cyrus. idk what's going on anymore
VOTE: cyrus62

I know this game is stalled and no wagon is catching on, but why vote cyrus especially considering cyrus is being cyrus?

We absolutely need a lynch, since the town freaking No Lynched on day 1.

@temp who’d you investigate last night?

I checked Spangled and got NR'ed.

@temp who’d you investigate last night?

temp cant tell you cuse spangeld put them to l1 abd made her clim so scum has it to where temps useles and this is why i was so upset about spangled and sera running them up to l1 and forceing a clim basicly.

why are you still answering peoples questions

regardless this is why I can't bring myself to vote cyrus

Answering other people’s questions is anti-town; you can’t let someone slip up or actually show their mindset in a game if their questions are answered for them.

you upset about the truth dose the truth make you look bad?

[cyrus62]

Spoiler:

The same thing can be said about Wheme.

#788 Town reads Spangled, Osuka, Temp, me
#802 Says if he's wrong about Cyan on day 1 he will look at Cyrus on day 2
#1191 Responds to Cyrus post and says he doesn't see scum making this post
#1197 Says if I flip scum he will look at Spangled or Cyrus
#1247 Says Spangled is town
#1316 Says he thinks Cyrus is town

I don't understand what Wheme is doing here and he is also voting without even providing a reason which is very frowned upon.

Things is, you can TR someone and still say who you would look at if they flip scum.

And, also, Adorable, you’re missing the main point of my cyrus case — most of the flip-flopping is based around his perceptions of the same event — me and Sera pushing TL to claim.

wait is that your may point that i been trying to see if your town or scum becuse you ran the cop to l1 and forced a clime in whice case they could die tonight and bioth prs were ran up by you lol. so baslicly your saying hey i fucked town royaly but dont be mad at me town always trys to get the prs to out them selfs.

This is the biggest misrep that I think I may have ever seen. You have been flip-flopping on how you

feel

about me and Sera pushing TL to claim. That is most of my case. You can’t really change your feelings about an event like that — sure you can look back on it and realise something else — but you have changed your

views

on the event four times, and without real reasons for changing them either.
I never said that what we did was good, either. I did screw town over pretty badly — but not intentionally, and not because I thought I was, but because I thought I was

helping

town.

yet you only helped scum i bet your lieing saying you was hunting scum but you were realy hunting prs thats why you got the doc and cops to clime

[cyrus62]

bo the wgole thing was at spangled getting upset that i pointed out the whole him getting mad over me pointing out that he got you to clime on day 1 and akso got cyan to clime costing us the doc and cop prs which is the truth, so he was getting upset about the truth

[cyrus62]

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON

For some reason you and osuka seemed to blend together

could you try to sell me on whem

[cyrus62]

VOTE: whem takeing liches word i hope your right

[cyrus62]

out today tommrows my bday so i may not post

[cyrus62]

VOTE: cyrus then lets get it over with im sick of this i have provein im town and yet you lot dont seem to understand town wouldnt run two prs up to l1 and force a clime so lets hurry this up

[cyrus62]

ok then i say im vt

[cyrus62]

notist im not goimg to fake clime since i trust you are cop

[cyrus62]

notist im not goimg to fake clime since i trust you are cop

What the hell is that supposed is prove?
Only scum know for sure whether or not TL is cop.

the funny thing if you ever played scum which i haven't yet you would know scum doesnt know who is pr sure scum knows what row we are in

i think

but im pretty sure the only ones that know who is pr is the pr however i trust lich since no ones cc her yet and until they do i have faith in them which is funny that every one besides me doubts her since the only ones that would doubt a cop clime with out proof of reason to doubt her would be scum hoping to lynch the cop before the cop can check them.

[cyrus62]

Spoiler:

notist im not goimg to fake clime since i trust you are cop

What the hell is that supposed is prove?
Only scum know for sure whether or not TL is cop.

the funny thing if you ever played scum which i haven't yet you would know scum doesnt know who is pr sure scum knows what row we are in

i think

but im pretty sure the only ones that know who is pr is the pr however i trust lich since no ones cc her yet and until they do i have faith in them which is funny that every one besides me doubts her since the only ones that would doubt a cop clime with out proof of reason to doubt her would be scum hoping to lynch the cop before the cop can check them.

First: TL uses masculine pronouns; he, him, etc.
Second: I have played scum, cyrus, and CC’ed at that. What I meant in that statement was that either TL is a PR, or he is scum. He can’t be a VT. So therefore if he’s scum (which I doubt), he and his partner know that he isn’t a PR... but if he is, scum know that he is, especially since their RB of him succeeded.

If you have lied at any point, TL (are not cop, were not actually RB’ed, etc) — though I don’t think you have — now is the time to announce it.

i didnt say he was vt i said i was vt lmao btw you confused me please use small words i cant keep up . lol

[cyrus62]

Spoiler:

notist im not goimg to fake clime since i trust you are cop

What the hell is that supposed is prove?
Only scum know for sure whether or not TL is cop.

the funny thing if you ever played scum which i haven't yet you would know scum doesnt know who is pr sure scum knows what row we are in

i think

but im pretty sure the only ones that know who is pr is the pr however i trust lich since no ones cc her yet and until they do i have faith in them which is funny that every one besides me doubts her since the only ones that would doubt a cop clime with out proof of reason to doubt her would be scum hoping to lynch the cop before the cop can check them.

First: TL uses masculine pronouns; he, him, etc.
Second: I have played scum, cyrus, and CC’ed at that. What I meant in that statement was that either TL is a PR, or he is scum. He can’t be a VT. So therefore if he’s scum (which I doubt), he and his partner know that he isn’t a PR... but if he is, scum know that he is, especially since their RB of him succeeded.

If you have lied at any point, TL (are not cop, were not actually RB’ed, etc) — though I don’t think you have — now is the time to announce it.

i didnt say he was vt i said i was vt lmao btw you confused me please use small words i cant keep up . lol

I’m afraid that that is another misrep. Probably not intentional, but...

how did i mis rep now i said i was vt ?

[cyrus62]

Spoiler:

notist im not goimg to fake clime since i trust you are cop

What the hell is that supposed is prove?
Only scum know for sure whether or not TL is cop.

the funny thing if you ever played scum which i haven't yet you would know scum doesnt know who is pr sure scum knows what row we are in

i think

but im pretty sure the only ones that know who is pr is the pr however i trust lich since no ones cc her yet and until they do i have faith in them which is funny that every one besides me doubts her since the only ones that would doubt a cop clime with out proof of reason to doubt her would be scum hoping to lynch the cop before the cop can check them.

First: TL uses masculine pronouns; he, him, etc.
Second: I have played scum, cyrus, and CC’ed at that. What I meant in that statement was that either TL is a PR, or he is scum. He can’t be a VT. So therefore if he’s scum (which I doubt), he and his partner know that he isn’t a PR... but if he is, scum know that he is, especially since their RB of him succeeded.

If you have lied at any point, TL (are not cop, were not actually RB’ed, etc) — though I don’t think you have — now is the time to announce it.

i didnt say he was vt i said i was vt lmao btw you confused me please use small words i cant keep up . lol

I’m afraid that that is another misrep. Probably not intentional, but...

how did i mis rep now i said i was vt ?

Because in my post, I didn’t talk about you being VT, I talked about how TL can’t be a VT at this point.

oh lol i also i said i was confused so maybe i didnt read it right.

[cyrus62]

I don't want to play anymore since I'm getting scum read for no reason and I'm on vacation. I'll might as well copy paste my role pm and get myself modkilled and everyone will see my town flip.

please dont kill your self just vote me then relax k when i flip town your know who is scum by the ones who pushd for it

[cyrus62]

ok ty happy birthday all

[cyrus62]

longest flip ever lol

[cyrus62]

spangled i responed to your message in pt why havent you answerd yet

[cyrus62]

Adorable/osuka/wheme if cyrus flips green. I guess flippynips isn't off the table but I don't see osuka and adorable being scummates, nor do I see adorable and wheme being scummates. Spangled if you're scum then gg but I think if adorable is red then her partner is emperor, and if she's town then it's prob team osuka/wheme. Also I think I'm getting shot tonight

you name every one but lich yet you said lich was a high lynch @ethos

[cyrus62]

lol he told me to tell you adable will die tonight spangled did

[cyrus62]

I remember someone saying cyrus might be scary as mafia lol

He played pretty well as newb!scum... but there were just a few things that made me realise that he was probably scum, ISOing. Mostly a higher than average number of game-advancing-contentless posts.

plus you repaced me giveing you a slight advantage since you knew how i play.

[cyrus62]

spingled replace me emps remeber. when your in some ones shoes like that you know when they are scum

[cyrus62]

hey i did good for keeping up for 27 days basicly by my self.