Newbie 1951 (Day 4)

[emps]

I don't find Creeper scummy at this point despite his TRing Farkran btw, he's still in null territory for me.

bad post

[emps]

Selynee hasn't posted much, but I like the posts she's made.

good post

[emps]

The reaction test was semi-spicy but I don't know how I feel about it yet.

do u have an opinion on the "reaction test" now?

[emps]

Ah, screw it.

@ NMSA: What's your read on me?

Also, is it scummy to ask what your read on me is?

this is p self concious imo


not asking for someones read on you, but more the reluctance to do so

[emps]

also, what teacher did to "defend" skitter is completely fair and i wouldve done it if i saw the "hiding behind vla" thing (i didnt until recently cuz i was on mobile earlier)

being vla isnt scummy, and

i think teachers reaction is actually townie.

(emphasis mine)

Really? I don't think his reaction was scummy, but I don't think it was townie either. This whole argument about Skitter being on V/LA and everyone's possible reads of her

despite her only having made one post

just feels like NAI semantic squabbling to me.

dont like this, i was mentioning teachers general tone/emotion not really the defense on skitter or even the V/LA thing

[emps]

@Farkran: Quick clarification thing, when you say someone's moving down in your suspects list, does that mean you find them more or less suspicious than you did before?

doubt that fark/sushi is a scumteam tho

[emps]

i dont know how to feel abt skitter backing out

Backing out of what?

fark lynch

[emps]

Teacher wasn't tunneling until last posts, now he's tunneling harshly which does not make any sense to me.

tunneling = maintaining ur scumread and pushing it for a long time

if its recent its not really a "harsh tunnel"

his progression on you is natural imo and it makes sense to me

[emps]

. I didn't have a scumread on Menalque so far and i am still reluctant to read him as scum

"not so sure hes scum whatever fuck it *votes mena* L-1"

Read my 576 or don't even talk to me lol it's pointless if you ignore my arguments

i did, and i replied to it.

[emps]

matter of fact that quote is from 576 smh

[emps]

Used gender-neutral pronouns. Not the best in this case, sorry.

who is it referring to tho

[emps]

hm interesting points on town!fark there skitt

ill think on it a bit

[emps]

i would iso them again but im not isoing someone 3 times when its about 2 or 3 days into D1

[emps]

In before someone, most likely Fark, calls that a "wolfy pop-in".

feels self concious tbh

[emps]

wow, the creeper ISO is bad guys

VOTE: creeper

good vote

[emps]

also ive done the whole "forgetting someone exists woops" before as scum. i dont really think it comes from town. maybe tho?

[emps]

one of the people i forgot was my scumbuddy as well lol

[emps]

self concious isnt necessarily scummy yknow that right

[emps]

being scumread doesnt mean ur playing poorly

one time i was mislynched scum told me they thought i was kinda obvtown

then again maybe i just dont wanna think im bad lol

[emps]

fakehammering is not a thing where i come from, it's considered a dirty play.

wait fakehammering is dirty play but faking that ur a newb and this is ur first game isnt????

imo the whole "rando names lol no meta allowed" is bad imo

[emps]

i think they were referring to mena there sushi

[emps]

also mena didnt post in the middle of it

i feel like hes kinda lazy tbh

[emps]

eh i think forgetting about people is kinda scummy

[emps]

ehhh i kinda changed my mind on fark still kinda unsure tho

UNVOTE:

[emps]

but like idk what to really think of mena ignoring me pushing fark to claim when his intent was "fake"

[emps]

fakehammering is not a thing where i come from, it's considered a dirty play.

wait fakehammering is dirty play but faking that ur a newb and this is ur first game isnt????

imo the whole "rando names lol no meta allowed" is bad imo

It's my very first game on this site, not my first forum mafia game in my life, i even said it in the signup thread, before the game started.

yeah uh i was saying that you said before that people at ur site hid behind a newbie shield when thwy werent newbs

[emps]

i dont think anyone would mind if i gave

intent to hammer creeper

claim and defend urself ty

[emps]

wait why sely? is creeper/mena just not a thing?

[emps]

yeah, I'd rather go here today

VOTE: skitt

yeah, I'd rather go here today

VOTE: mena

[emps]

and this wagon is kinda pinging me for reasons I can't talk about

Or

Radical thought

You could just

Tell us why

????

[emps]

awww man someones scumreading me for hopping off a wagon onto someone else

wait

that... sounds strangely similar. got no idea what it could be

[emps]

I’m gonna be online in like 30 and tipsy. Slots happened but leave me any questions you want as well.

Men’s, is like you to put the skit evolution into words, because although I see it I want verbalizatiob.

Emps, same on mena- you earlier said way off scum meta so what changed?

i dont get how he came to scumreading skitter and it feels forced/reachy imo

the time that he chose to hop off the creeper wagon felt off.

he feels different from 1938, but w/o meta i SR him.

i feel like ive kinda been forcing myself to not really sr him because of meta and idk if i really strongly believe in meta

[emps]

huh? why is sush i that high up teacher?

[emps]

'm not going to argue it's a good post, or that it's productive that I wasn't doing this yesterday, but pointing out things like this and just saying "bad post" feels extremely lazy to me, possibly in a scum-motivated way

sushi i did the same thing to the creeper slot i think

pedit : fair i think they seem pretty natural but i quickly skimmed their iso and they have had 2 votes so far... one as a rvs vote on nmsa, and another on fark and she unvoted soon after.

[emps]

i think they feel really fence-sitty tbh

[emps]

but idk i do that as town sometimes tho

maybe its nai for them?

[emps]

Fark, we usually only use VCA when one scum has flipped, or during Lylo. sometimes d2 tho.

[emps]

i was going to say tracker or neap should cc but then i forgot there s a new setup smh

ill see what roles shoulds cc

[emps]

k so onky prs that can be with tracker are fn, doc, and jk

[emps]

its only a safe fakecliaim in 2B and 2C

[emps]

if you are a tracker, cop, or mason, CC this.

[emps]

I find it a really odd play to get us both lynched to avoid Follow the Tracker when you don't even know there's a doctor but okay

VOTE: Farkran

the fuck? i told all masons, cops, or trackers to cc. fark is a mason and they cced...

[emps]

i think its a better idea for the last mason to fullclaim so scum cant cc but im not sure

[emps]

fark did crumb his partner

[emps]

but fark is almost always the nk here

[emps]

oh wait the other mason just claims d3

[emps]

if they get cced we win

[emps]

oh wait if creeper is actually tracker we can just wait for the other pr to cc fark

[emps]

No dont make other mason claim

[emps]

if creeper is legit tracker, we should wait for the other pr to claim.

[emps]

so that explains the nmsa tr

[emps]

i mean why wouldnt you reveal the crumb after youve fullclaimed and are p much conftown now

[emps]

actually it doesnt rly matter anymore

[emps]

and ive been questioning why plenty of times and you just didnt answer fark

thats part of the reason i SRed you lol

[emps]

i didnt really notice too much of the rando nmsa tr on you tho

[emps]

im bad at finding crumbs lol

one time scum thought i crumbed doc when i was vt lol

[emps]

k teacher is 100%town now you think he would make his scumbuddy fakeclaim tracker when he saw a mason breadcrumb?

[emps]

d1 vca

hmmmmmmmmm

[emps]

oh that makes sense

whats ur read on sushi w/o that?

[emps]

how in the what duck is that a mason breadcrumb

[emps]

yeah thats about what i thought no way thats a mason breadcrumb lol

[emps]

my poe rn is mena, sushi, sely ill look over interactions and find which one is the partner

[emps]

Also, credit for the crumbs goes to NMSA. We stopped using crumbs back there because there has been a game where EVERYONE crumbed the shit out of themselves and then any day code was banned.

Oh that was encryption

some people started encrypting their roleclaims for massclaims so that scum had to choose to claim PR or not d1

[emps]

at least i had one correct scumread

aka creeper

who everyone else also scumread

now praise me for being so godly at the game

[emps]

smh i just realized creeper is at l-1 teacher you didnt even hammer him

[emps]

we got anything more to discuss or do you guys mind if i just hammer

[emps]

eh fuck it VOTE: creeper

[emps]

Also, if youre a PR who is unfortunately also a universal townread, a lolhammer is a good way to avoid the nk.

bro what are you teaching the newbs

I try to powerplay as every single role out there Tbh

I try not to change my pr play from my vt play so I don't eat NK

[emps]

Teacher did u forget sely existed

[emps]

nah, I'm going to bed, lynch order should be teacher-->skitt-->sushi

but bc you're (town collectively) bad you're gonna mislynch me first, so my revised order is me-->teacher-->skitt-->sushi

although do be v susp of emps if he's in lylo, but then again prob just be susp of everyone

ah yes be sus of me if I don't get NKed instead of the conftown masons

[emps]

the last 4-5ish pages feel like Mena is trying to convince teacher he's scum instead of the rest of us tbh

[emps]

Idk maybe it's coached?

[emps]

I dunno it doesn't seem very tonally different

[emps]

Votecount 1.3:

Menalque (1) -

teacher, NotMySpamAccount

Farkran (2) -

Seleynee, emps

teacher (1) -

Farkran

NotMySpamAccount (1) -

Menalque

Not voting (3) -

skitter30, Sushi Martyr, EpicCreeper9002

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. The deadline is at 9am BST on the 28th August 2019. (expired on 2019-08-28 09:00:00)[/b]

Something is wrong here because Menalque has 1 and 2 votes.


I have no clue how you people can read into things so much - I've barely noticed anything off with anyone. I do think the argument about skitters is getting absolutely nowhere, but that doesn't really help with reads.

Question: What are the rules on modifying quotes? Like, could I cut out the deadline part of the message I quoted since it's not really necessary? Could I take sub-quotes out so a post isn't so long? Could I lie by changing the lynches up?

oh my god I was isoing him for tone his question was actually hella scummy the whole part where they asked if they could lie

[emps]

why didn't we lynch this so much earlier I'm so bad...

[emps]

he has no other posts that use "Jeez" so maybe coached? I'll do some more stuff once I get home if thread is still unlocked

[emps]

I dunno I did something similar in my first scumgame where I was probably more worried about my scumbuddy being lynched than I was

[emps]

we're debating whether or not a post is coached/looking at creeper/mena stuffs

[emps]

I've done the whole "fuck u I'm obvtown smh" as scum before as well

yeah I was really desperate in lylo lol

[emps]

wow mena good skitter case

VOTE: mena

[emps]

Lmao at how hard that kill was meant to set me up

oh fuck they killed a claimed PR man look at me being set up

[emps]

I... still don't get it. Ofc nmsa is going to die n1 and i die n2 before i can even vote you in d3. But in case i can, i will.

No way we're going for anyone else than mena tomorrow

The "we" here implies both nmsa and fark will vote u tmrw so how are you being set up again?

[emps]

how does that even set you up both of them wanted you lynched d2 it changes like nothing

[emps]

oh wow insulting my skill is a great way to flip my read around on you and make me think ur town

cant you show like something that made you think skitter was scum?

[emps]

hi hello im here and alive ill read stuff now

[emps]

actually yeah I'll do this myself, VOTE: menalque

I'm town, lynch teacher tomorrow, if green flip vote skitt in lylo, if they're both town remember that I told you all not to mislynch me so we could do those two first

k thx bye

uhhhhhh

u fr?

[emps]

You think I ever let my scum partner not get an avi?

yeah everylne knows that noavis are always scum

[emps]

You think I push my scum partner in your place?
You think I tell my scum partner to claim tracker after seeing mason claims and knowing I can sell a by claim as town-motivated rather than outing PRs enough to shift the wagon?
You think I ever let my scum partner not get an avi?

You can’t see obvtown either. So maybe stop mocking everybody and try to salvage some contribution.

(1) yes, absolutely if you think he's going down and that it might pocket me
(2) what is a by claim?
(3) maybe, I don't think that's at all AI

i think "by" is autocorrected vt?

[emps]

So you think it’s almost certainly the very experienced players (me, skit, emps) not the ones with total lack (Selene, sushi) that lent creeper limp on like he did all game?

That’s my issue. I have a TR on sushi. I’ve accepted that I’m the mislynch for tomorrow when you will eat crow. I’m trying to help town for D4 in picking btw emps, skit, and selynee. I think I would encourage them to go seleynee. Either live with that advise or convince me why I’m wrong.

im stilk a newbie why am i considered "very experienced"

[emps]

i dunno theae accusations of cheating feel very icky to me and i feel like we just should like steer the conversation away from that stuff. mena is not breaking the rules i dont think.

[emps]

im probs going to do marathon weekend and stuff so dont expect me to be super active here

[emps]

Wagonomics (a Krazy alt) taught me this thing where you look for minor differences in speech from flipped scum, like the way they subconciously refer to their scumbuddies.


ive been looking through his iso to try to find something, but all ive really noticed is he hasnt mentioned skitter like a single time.

[emps]

That's the problem. I'm having trouble looking deep into things the same way you guys do. I probably just need to try harder, but maybe it's not my thing.

As for Farkran not claiming, I don't really read that either way. I don't really see it as a valid play from either town or scum. I think he has a reason for it, but I have no idea what that could be.

how does a chat mafia game play out

So far it's actually been kind of the same as this game. Random votes happen, then other things happen that I've never really been able to understand.

That's the problem. I'm having trouble looking deep into things the same way you guys do. I probably just need to try harder, but maybe it's not my thing.

As for Farkran not claiming, I don't really read that either way. I don't really see it as a valid play from either town or scum. I think he has a reason for it, but I have no idea what that could be.

how does a chat mafia game play out

Mechanically, games are mostly the same. It's just the fact that here, we have so much more time to discuss, analyze posts, etc. Deadlines are measured in days instead of minutes. I've been assuming that makes a massive difference in play, but thinking about it, I guess it's not so different after all. I also realize now that the way I brought up my past was a bit misleading - I have a lot of experience, but that doesn't make me any better at the game. There are people from PS (that's my homeworld) who analyze things just as well as people here. Maybe the problem is I've been comparing everyone on this site to myself rather than other players from PS.

i mean ... does analysis happen in your chat mafia games? like i'm confused why having more time is hindering your ability to analyze here ... ? if anything i think it'd be easier since you aren't rushed?

Problem is I never really had the ability to analyze in the first place. In addition, there's more time to go over posts, but also a lot more to go over. Like I said, it might not really be so different from here after all.

yeah I'm confident on creeper scum now.

Spam - thoughts on fark?

Spam - flesh out your creeper read?

reminder for this page that Fark is L-1

heres two questions for you Spammy.

I'd like you to flesh out your read on me too, teacher. I've shown up pretty low on your recent list, and you seemed to turn against me around the same time as Spam did.

@selynee @creeper @sushi

You haven't been updating your reads for a while (if ever). Please do.

I'll try ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I feel like the whole Farkran & emps thing is just two townies fighting. I still have my townreads on them from earlier and I just think a lot of the arguments came from town perspectives.

NSMA's recent question to me felt town-ish but he honestly hasn't been putting much into the game (of course that's silly coming from me). My reads on him are more or less null.

I think a lot of people are overlooking Selynee and Sushi Martyr. I see good questions from them both, feels like town but could easily be made up.

EC, what is your opinion about teacher's answer to your question?

Spoiler: The question and answer being referred to, for reference

I'd like you to flesh out your read on me too, teacher. I've shown up pretty low on your recent list, and you seemed to turn against me around the same time as Spam did.

You’re an empty slot, but by choice not availability. You haven’t participated in the game. And you’ve resisted doing so when pushed.

I’ve expressed my thoughts on similar slots before:

(im good w/ your lynch......) “for a reason that seems callous -- if red, which I think is >rand, great. IF green, still not bad. I do believe in the 1:1 on and off wagon, so a green flip would have told me to reexamine my townreads. But given that [creeper] has not contributed any scumhunting OR (and the OR is in fact important here) claimed VLA to return at a date certain, even a green flip would have also removed a liability. This a lesson I learned a little later in my time on MS, but it makes sense to me. D1 and D2, you should of course try to scum hunt. But you should also get rid of town liabilities -- nullish folk that scum wont kill. Town liabilities should not make it to lylo because (1) they are an easy mislynch for scum to push and win the game, and (2) they havent been invested enough to have game-saving reads themselves.”

For one, your reasoning with "town liabilities" makes sense. Of course it's better to lynch scum, but as you say you think that's a possibility as well I can see where you're coming from. But I also find it odd that you came in after NSMA did, and also after what I think was my most contributive post at the time.

Creeper, come tell me why you're town. Selynee, please do the same.

I'm gonna be completely honest here: I have no idea how to do this lol. I feel like anything I say will just make my case worse.


I've said this before, but I think a lot of people think my amount of experience playing Mafia in the past correlates to my skill level. That is very much not the case and I am still horrible at the entire analysis thing

I kinda wish this thread didn't feel like a minefield where one wrong word or post and suddenly half the players are shouting for your head

this is me

ive searched for epic's usage of "you" and he mostly uses it to refer to a group of people.

he has 2 posts directed towards sely and teacher that use a lot of "you"s

[emps]

look for the replies to 506 and 605 to see the usage of "you"

[emps]

he uses a lot of "they"s to refer to people, and the only 3 people i could find from a quick skim that he referred to as he/she were NMSA, Fark, and I

[emps]

im starting to realize this method of scumhunting is probably useless with a flipped scum with only 24 posts...

[emps]

Everyone is gone cuz of labor day wknd

[emps]

sushi is long overdue a prod

Or have they already been prodded

[emps]

double checked, sushi hasn't been prodded.

@mod prod sushi and skitter pls

Idk if skitter is due a prod but im p sure they are

[emps]

oh right the fri/sat vla thing

[emps]

im starting to realize this method of scumhunting is probably useless with a flipped scum with only 24 posts...

ya i'm not sure this is such a great technique tbh

I’m vacationing/camping this weekend.

I kinda want to talk to skit in realism time, and still haven’t reread sushi (school).

Like sely, I kinda think I should be the lynch for today, because I can’t be tomorrow.

hey, i hope you enjoy ur weekend

had a weird weekend, just checking in for a few min now, but i'll be around for a lot of tomorrow

i'm not sure scum!you and scum!selynee encourage a wagon on either of themselves; scum i feel like are more survivalistic
i'm reconsidering emps; i still haven't read the game that you linked; it's on my to-do list
sushi is in my scum pool rn

idk i feel like teacher could fake that, doubt sely could.

selys a tr/tl for me rn tbh.

[emps]

No. No posts all day two. If anything. I think slightly town indicative. I think emps is my preferred lynch that is not me so would love you to read that game at some point.

huhh? why me over sushi?

[emps]

No. No posts all day two. If anything. I think slightly town indicative. I think emps is my preferred lynch that is not me so would love you to read that game at some point.

how is having 0 posts during d2 town indicative

[emps]

so who was voting you then ... ?

i'll prioritize looking at it today! (irl today!)

what are you planning on look at later today?

[emps]

ohh my scumgame right

[emps]

i feel like teacher is town here but idk ive never seen scum!teacher before tho

[emps]

sely is town here imo

[emps]

FWIW I don’t think there is a good universal fakeclaim in this setup at all.

• tracker - established countered 66%
  
• cop - countered 66% in all columns, pluses forced to create clears.
  
• doc - Countered >66%
  
• neighbor - proven false next day
  
• jk -countered 66% in all
  
• mason - lulz

So I don’t think I can use the claim as a reason to think the partner isn’t experienced. Still think that, but this reason wasn’t good.

[*]traxke

tracker : countered 77% of the time
cop - countered 100% of the time
doc - countered 89% of the time
fn - haha no
jk - countered 89% of the time
mason - haha no

[emps]

ok

i didn't read all of emps 1941, but i read the first 200 posts in his iso

emps a couple of questions before i share my findings:

1. is that your most recent scumgame?
2. is it common for you to do this 'be very teacher-y/explain-y to newbies' thing? have you ever done it as town?

1. Yes, its also my only one.
2. tbh ever since that game ive kinda been paranoid about acting teacher-like towards newbs because i might get scumread for it. ive never done it to that extent as town tho

[emps]

i made a post in mafia discussion about the fakeclaims in this setup, and the fakeclaims w/o being cced are ridiculous. you cant fakeclaim in 5/9, unless you cohnt fn as a legit fakeclaim, then its 4/9.

also, if you want to fakeclaim without being cced, you need to correctly guess the setup. tracker and fn(i dont really count fn though) that are safe fakeclaims in multiple situations. however, they are in diff columns (tracker fakeclaims are B1 and C2 if i recall correctly? fn fakeclaims are in A2 and C2.)

[emps]

ebwop, meant to say that tracker and fn are the only claims that arent cced in more than one setup

[emps]

so basically its even worse than u though

[emps]

so basically its even worse than u thought

ebwop

[emps]

he does a lot of the coaching thing too

like what do you mean by this

is this referring to the fact that i coached kani? i kinda just gave them advice, does that count as coaching? i thought coaching was more like "hey copy paste this into thread and get townread lol : [thing here]"

[emps]

tbh this post is kinda a prodge.

i dont think we really have that much more to really discuss until the sushi replacement comes in.

[emps]

are you kidding me

ugghhhh ill probs prodge till a hectic replacement is found...

[emps]

prodge again.
imo the gamestate is weirdly stalled because i feel like all of us are scumreading the sushi slot so we are all kinda akwardly waiting for a replacement

[emps]

whats "BoP" mean

also pls point out what posts from me struck you as slightly scummy.

[emps]

last scum for me is in pops/teacher/skitter

i dunno if i can sort skitter/teacher tbh...

[emps]

i should probs meta teacher and skitter...

[emps]

VOTE: emps

I really don't like emps' reactions to Farkran's attacks. Most notably, he seems to be getting desperate in his recent posts (specifically 303, 304, and 305).

Also, what point are you trying to make with that "scumreading two of the above" post?

i think his reaction test was at least somewhat genuine? but it seemed sorta rushed tbh because he only brought up recent posts and made no even semi-decent points on me, however i dont think scum does that

yeah I'm confident on creeper scum now.

i dunno i could buy creeper/fark as the gamesolve but that feels wayy too easy

Here’s my issue w the wagon right now: fark has been put on L-1 twice (five votes, as skitter replaced sushi). I know I’m town and I lean heavily that way on spammy. So unless we are saying the team is exactly creeper-fark, farks likely a Mislynch.

Skit- talk to me about Menalque because I melded w you a bit there. I disagreed w the early townread on darque and his reads (there, emps) have seemed a little swingy. The meld was strong on the 180-220 bit of reaching to scumread spam after what was to me an extremely towny reaction test - like Nigeria at the player Nd looking for a rationale.

I’m not saying that’s not the team btw. But if people are inclined there, I think the higher value play is to lynch creeper.

UNVOTE: Menalque
VOTE: creeper

it should be mentioned Fark is at L-1

What exactly made all of this happen? I know it's probably something in my previous post, but what?

at the time

i felt like the reaction test was the fakest shit ever and i felt like it was an excuse to back out of the SR on me

I spent some time in isoland and don’t get this sequence emps? Like maybe there’s a chronology I’m not getting? At the time of these you have a whole sequence on creeper trying to sort them, but I feel those two somewhat contradict?

notice the "at the time"

[emps]

i think hes trying to say ive played with sushi before, and they have no scum meta, so i dont really need to meta them

[emps]

what do you mean by "reacting to the first 30 pages"

in order to replace in they have to confirm their role pm, yeah?

[emps]

oh thats what you meant

[emps]

i apologize.

It's just that a meta argument isn't generally applicable to my improvement as a player, so it's like, "aw dang, that explanation is valid but won't help me personally"

If I had also played 3 games with emps before and had come to a different conclusion and then he flipped green here

then

I would have something to learn here but I have never played with him and am not waist deep enough into this one to research

no

don't give me townpoints cause i'm minimally invested in the game given I'm a replacement and I'm currently in several other games right now

give him town points because he is heavily engaged in did full read pivots this game and has been playing his postcount meta which would amplify the cost of tossing that away

You'll be really stressed out tomorrow when you have to scumcase that player tomorrow since he's your lowest ranked player for LyLo, I'm pretty sure.

But it's not my problem :hitoshrug:

is the "him" referring to teacher?

[emps]

huh? how did i end up quoting multiple posts? I didnt press the multiquote button i dont think

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Fark - please get an avi. It is a courtesy version of “facial recognition” for who is writing a post. If you’re not graphically inclined, describe what you might want and I can size it.

I like the new setup too. I think it might encourage tracker claiming. I do encourage all players to wiki their roles, and in general to read the introductory mod post spoiler on the first page.

I like the new setup too. I think it might encourage tracker claiming. I do encourage all players to wiki their roles, and in general to read the introductory mod post spoiler on the first page.

I think it might encourage tracker claiming.

hmmmmmmmmm

I think it might encourage tracker claiming.

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oh i thought it meant it encourages scum to fakeclaim tracker

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ah, for something like follow the tracker?

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ah, having an "innocent child" like in newbie 1938 when u claimed doc d2?

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Well, either you get an ic, or you force scum to cc

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idk gut tells me to vote skitter

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I am strongly assuming EC ignored his scum PT no matter his partner

then again this feels kinda tmi

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uhhhh i really dont know here tbh

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im leaning skitter but ill skitter and the pops slot

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meant to say ill iso the skitter and the pops slot

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emps, why has your posting dropped off so majorly this day phase?

just rl stuff. been busy lately and dont have very much motivation to play tbh

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i dont get this convo you guys are like talking about mafia but also making some small talk abt skitters avi while doing so

pedit : i honestly dont know after the pops unvote, dont get why scum!him would unvote there either

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i think teacher may actually have pocketed me and kind of just let this 1v1 between u two happen

but then again he has taken a stronger stance than i have and if pop flips town, hes likely to be the lynch next day

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If you needed to greylist or blacklist me for this tendency that'd be understandable

no i wouldnt stop playing with someone because they made small talk in a game...

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ugh ima go to sleep soon and i should vote someone but idk whooo

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im leaning towards teacher tbh but im considering skitter

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oh yeah ill have some time in the morning as well thought deadline was like 6 or 7 hours from now woops

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wait what why do i have to choose

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uhhhhhhhh idk if scum teacher makes those posts saying that we should go for skitter tmrw when there clearly isnt any chance that skitter will be lynched today

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ehhh idk im still leaning teacher and we kinda have to make a descision...

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oh well i hope im right...

VOTE: teacher

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im pretty tempted to just deadsheep teacher tbh

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emps why did you end up voting teacher over pops yesterday?

kind of a gut read tbh.

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emps why didn't you lynch me?

tbh i dont really have a great reason... some was kinda being paranoid abt teacher, and some was just i thought you were somewhat towny

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Not hammering im town lel

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aaaaand now im sad because i have to choose in lylo

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hey scum do me a favor and self hammer pls and ty

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i dont see why scum!pops votes skitter here i feel like scum!him would try to get skitter to vote me or me to vote skitter

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Hey pops if it scum self vote pls

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tbh i really dont have much effort to put into this game...

if u guys could case each other thatd be great ty

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hi hello this is kinda a prodge but i read the wallpost but i havent quite proccessed it its a very large wallpost and i hate wallposts so uh ye

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woah deadline is in 1 1/2 days oh no i dont want a no lynch

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uhm im leaning skitter here tbh

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but ill probs wait for their case thingy and response stuffs before i hammer

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yea dw i dont wanna get stabbed post game for no lynching lol

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skiddddddddddddder

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intent to hammer someone, not quite sure who it is rn tho

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still leaning skitter tho

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no i think its only killing skitter

VOTE: skitter

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please be right

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hi pops ur on r u town

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hi pops ur on r u town

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can you be town

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its not too late to change alignments yknow

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ah yes ofc u were town

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haha yeah im good at this game and had no doubts about myself whatsoever and i wasnt dying inside for the past like minute or so

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wooo i cant wait to see dead thread yell at me for being stupid

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scum can you guys like kill me before lylo or something its too stressful pls and ty

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wait what how is that a bah post

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Did it, emps?

it was a wallpost so uh maybe? im honestly not sure myself lol i feel like i chose skitter mostly based off of gut because i was too lazy to reread lol

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woooo yeah i played kinda maybe somewhat well in someones eyes woohoo i feel good about myself

dont beat urself up about being bad at pr, and claimed at like the shittiest time ever in my first pr game lol

also masons are different from other prs so like thats probs even harder than playing normal pr...

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hell yeah i had votes that werent half bad lets go

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i feel like the whole ranking thing is kinda ehhhhh but like the MVP thing is ok but ranking the worst player is bad imo

ranking is just akward tbh, you can compliment/give people advice but outright ranking people is meh