Magical Girls UPick - Heart of Shadow (Game Over)

[Titus]

Sorry RC. :/ When you're ready, come back and let's end this day with a scum lynch.

[Titus]

Yes? It is scum, scum who is probably whiffing. SS hasn't outed what their day role is, which they shouldn't. And it might be something with no real value or no day role at all.

Your position is that scum took a shot at role blocking a major wagon during the day, but then completely ignored it at night? They didn't roleblock obvtown with an ability that would be announced to everyone that it existed. Instead, they went after SS who was widely regarded as scum?

Second, what type of assurances do we have that scum!you wouldn't redirect someone like gameplay and then kill him?

[Titus]

Alright attempt 50000 to sleep.

[Titus]

I recall GIF told me back in fallout mafia that he wouldnt put a scum redirector if there was a town vig.
-Tana

*Pulls hair out*

[Titus]

Or Pops.

Serious RC, bad games happen when the meta shifts.
CS looks near mechanically clear.
Pops role has next to zero town utility.

[Titus]

You have got to be fucking kidding me RC.

[Titus]

I have literally bent over fucking backwards detailing every action I have here with you, and you're derailing an obvious scum redirector that's rolefishing me go to attack me?

I get you're stressed but come on. I haven't slept through the night in a month. Literally all my subtlety is spent here, trying to work with you.

Yet, you can't listen to the underlying subtext in everything I've done this game.

[Titus]

The only crumbs that haven't been tailored to you RC, Shiro missed.

Can we finish this pops!scum lynch so we can ensure big shots are true? K thanks.

[Titus]

The fuck? Why the hell are you laughing RC?

I really can't deal with two town players doing wrong emotions to manipulate me.

Stop the pretend break down.

[Titus]

Then just lynch scum!pops so you can go off into the sunset. It's simple.

You're making this emotionally dramatic for no reason.

[Titus]

Now, if Bitmap gets what he wants, my utility goes down and I am forced to do something risky when we can just clear down the suspect pool.

So can we just end this day? I'm cranky as fuck.

[Titus]

I fucking hate mafia

You hate it because you treat mafia as a competitive game.

I make it competitive or people use it against me

Either to mislynch me or to attack me

Neither will happen here. You're dying. No use.

That's what happens to me all the time. That's why I usually prefer data. With this many conftown around to work with, I literally can't work with all of you and remain subtle. Doubly so with Pops alive.

[Titus]

How close is pops to lynch?

L minus 2 by my count.

[Titus]

I'm not going against Tanas views on GIFs design philosophy.

I went against her and was wrong yesterday

Tana isn't using the right variables RC. I haven't gotten them through to you somehow to give to her.

[Titus]

RC/SH, if upon 24 hour reflection, you still don't get what I have conveyed this game to you and want pops alive, I'll have to work around you. I don't like it but it is what it is. Pops is near certainly scum.

I went for an AP build. (I am only explaining this at full claim or death. This will only make sense then.)

[Titus]

Titus why are you tunneling me so hard?

Because your role has zero functionality for town, you role hinting for the day vig more than scumhunting, you were generally scummy yesterday and your sole detractors have a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation.

[Titus]

*day big = day block my bad

[Titus]

1-shot vig, is probably slightly less likely there wouldnt be a scum redirector, GIF hates to make situations where scum can get a double nightkill tho.
UNVOTE:
-Tana

What about 1.5?

[Titus]

In FO mafia i had an ability that would make anyone targeting me also target my target, i refused to use it because someone had received an item that made them strongwilled and so we started suspecting bus driver / redirector and i wanted to avoid giving scum a 2nd kill, after I was already dead and spoiled GIF told me that "He would never put a scum redirector when there's a town vig", a town vig had flipped in that game.
-Tana

I absolutely believe this happened. I still think GiF did it anyway due to the sheer amount of power town has and that scenario doesn't happen in every instance.

But, if you disagree, I will move onto a policy resolution and drop the matter.

[Titus]

*cries* RC hasn't explained to you my resolution, or anything. RC could probably figure out 90% of my role PM if he looked close enough. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit but I cannot risk being clearer.

UNVOTE: Pops
VOTE: Dann

[Titus]

I do think that's... quite a lot of clears, but if we got no hard investigative power it may make sense, im not that good at setup spec without more info out on the table and im not gonna request more role info when unnecessary.
-Tana

I understand. I literally can't come up with

four

more reasons to explain.

So I'll do what I have to. Either town will be 100% protected, or we get a lock scum in 95% of scenarios.

[Titus]

If everyone is telling the truth, we have a lot of conf town.

That's part of why I think Pops needs to die.

I think SS might be our strongest investigative.

[Titus]

Wow, I didn't think of that

Probably better for everyone if I pick something innocuous to control?

If you DARE touch me, town should quick lynch you with ZERO explanation.

[Titus]

I still don't think the extra gauge is purely a town benefit is what I'm trying to say.

I mean, the redirector with vig in the game is the stronger reason anyway?
I still think that pops not including NK on the spear is more of a PoV slip than scum trying to clear themselves but idk how much pops is capable of faking as scum.
Also there was no CW when pops was driven to an intent to L-1, plus the speed of the wagon, make me think pops is also more likely town than not, but idk who could be scum driving among the voters.
-Tana

There is a very realistic chance I am wrong but you'll understand soon enough.

[Titus]

Titus what is your read on RCEnigma

Could be scum. Neutered.

[Titus]

I'm concerned that I'm not townreading RCE yet, I think I usually townread him 2 game progression units ago or right around now.

Of course RIGHT now his dog is hurt and I wish him/her the best

Agreed on the wishing him the best. Perhaps neutered was a poor choice of words. I remembered he was vla but forgot why.

[Titus]

Shiro can I have an anxiety reducing gif?

[Titus]

@Dann, You're claiming that I'm townreading RCE. I'm not. That should be pretty clear from my last post. I'm not voting RCE, not because I TR him, but because I can't change something. I'm not elaborating further on that. My not voting RCE is strategic, not bc townread.

Here, you're claiming RCE is a PoE possible scumread but you'd want to come after me. There's a wagon that conftown want on your PoE scumread. You cannot have the strategic reason to not vote RCE as its unique to me. Yet you want to divert. This reeks more of protecting RCE/survivalism/OMGUS/convenience than a real scumread.

You want to fight? Bring it on. If I'm overruled on RCE and RCE and Croag both flip scum, be well prepared there may be no night 3.

[Titus]

Happy birthday.

[Titus]

we'd rather

lynch croag and go for a high equity

vig

venge

If there's any chance you venge me, let me know so I can claim. I know you got really frustrated with me yesterday despite my best efforts.

From Tana's perspective, Pops>75% town.

[Titus]

VOTE: Croag

[Titus]

*Long story short, dog will be ok for now*

So I skimmed a bit and I was also hit with a day ability. I'm pretty sure I know who it is but I don't think outing is is very useful yet. Umm if anyone is on right now which page did day start on? Otherwise I'll just read backwards.

Yeah, hmph. I wonder why we shouldn't lynch you today then, venge is ok.

[Titus]

Titus what flipped your read on me? And what flipped your read on pops?

My situation with pops has been discussed ad nauseam. My townread on you grew stale and a bit of PoE. With LLD and Katsuki > random to be town, something had to give. I couldn't remember and recent contributions made.

We need to keep obvious town working together too, so that's why.

[Titus]

I don't think that HH appreciated us still being alive today.

HH isn't the worst choice.

@RCE, Fair from it. I still scumread pops. I think I am the only one. Even if I am wrong, disaster must be avoided.

[Titus]

RC, is there any chance of you venging me? Yes/no. Do me straight here as it takes ages to actually detail every crumb.

[Titus]

I don't think that HH appreciated us still being alive today.

HH isn't the worst choice.

@RCE, Fair from it. I still scumread pops. I think I am the only one. Even if I am wrong, disaster must be avoided.

I do too but scum redirector makes no sense with T + E targeted, since they rb’d him. So, either this is a brilliant fakeclaim or he’s town.

Maybe he couldn't act n1 or wanted a higher value target.

Scum redirector makes logical sense with the amount of clears. Otherwise, I am waaaaay to powerful in addition with gameplay. We're talking auto lock if your investigative has use if we flavor claim.

[Titus]

*we flavorclaim means town flavorclaims

[Titus]

Titus haven't you hardclaimed already?

No. I've left enough were smart players could figure out what I do. I have not hard claimed. I think you actually deduced half.

LLD thinks I have a gladiate. That's not true bc I'd have more issues with DDL. I just never corrected that assumption bc it was useful noise.

[Titus]

I'm less sure who targeted me now.

No that was me.

[Titus]

VOTE: Croag

Sailor, don't bother beating a dead horse. The situation is what it is.

All I need now is for RC to tell me if I must full claim or not.

[Titus]

I'm less sure who targeted me now.

No that was me.

How does that fit with your flavor?

I'm less sure who targeted me now.

No that was me.

Can I ask how this works? Like without outing the function?

It doesn't really fit the flavor. It's a rough adaptation.

I pm the mod. I state target. Action happens at next vc. Mod may ask for finality.

@SS, He already knows what he's acting.

[Titus]

*asking

[Titus]

I'm shocked your hydra doesn't understand this SS.

[Titus]

We went through it. There's no saving RC.

[Titus]

Well I guess if I'm the venge oh well.

I'm ok with EoD.

[Titus]

Gameplay, let it go.

[Titus]

@RC, I think we can do RCE but he ate the dayblock so it's probably better to lynch Dann.

[Titus]

@RC, I think we can do RCE but he

ate the dayblock

so it's probably better to lynch Dann.

What does this mean?

My transformation was sealed. I didn't really want to throw Titus ability out there but she did herself so.

Your transformation should not be sealed. Just your day ability.

[Titus]

Oh. Ok. I was beginning to think a serious mod error was made.

[Titus]

If everyone presumed you're scum, then scum know about my ability. Second, lynching the scum that cannot act isn't as effective. I mean if people want to, ok but...

[Titus]

It just locks your day ability.

If everyone presumed you're scum, then scum know about my ability. Second, lynching the scum that cannot act isn't as effective. I mean if people want to, ok but...

So wtf are you talking about Titus?

Pretty clear. RCE is playing with less than full abilities. That means, other scum are likely more powerful, thus a more optimal lynch.

[Titus]

If everyone presumed you're scum, then scum know about my ability. Second, lynching the scum that cannot act isn't as effective. I mean if people want to, ok but...

But your ability doesn’t affect Night Actions, does it?

You day blocked us but we were still able to check for DDL’s flavour at night.

Correct. When RCE said he couldn't use his night ability, I flipped because I was worried GiF misinterpreted something.

[Titus]

Well, I don't think that's the right call.

[Titus]

Just call me when I can play mafia again. K?

[Titus]

Can we just lynch and go to night? We're nearly massclaimed.

[Titus]

RC's not getting hate. Wtf? He's just second guessing himself.

[Titus]

I would vastly prefer we lynch HH both today and quickly so no player ends up cornered by a replacement into that slot.

We could just hammer RCE.

Then, there's no problem anyway.

[Titus]

VOTE: RCE

[Titus]

RC, I'm exhausted. I'm trying to keep up with the bouncing pinball. I feel like you're just cycling through at this point. I don't know if RCE is scum. He's not my favorite lynch either. It makes little sense to lynch the man you're going to venge. You said you're locked in, so I'm really confused and exasperated at this point.

[Titus]

@Titus: What do you think about the HH slot?

It can die. I haven't been able to interact with it but not my favorite lynch.

I'd rather lynch Dann and Pops if I was queen.

If we double hit scum and didn't match my choices, I'd probably make sure CS died because the masons and RC don't like it.

[Titus]

VOTE: Dann

[Titus]

VOTE: HH

Fine RC. Just let's end this day so I can see if I'm way off. As always, if you're going to venge me, let me know. Just a standing request.

[Titus]

My ideal lunches have all been vetoed anyway.

[Titus]

I fully intend to transform.

@pops you'd have to claim flavor

[Titus]

I have claimed flavor a jillion times because I am elated about it. I am Reflect/Refrain and I'm adorable.
Actually, if you guys are going to ignore my beautiful role PM if it's posted in postgame I need to redirect gameplay onto myself.

I assure you, there is zero need for you to redirect gameplay.

I thought R/R was your abilities.

[Titus]

I agree. Pops should holster.

@SS GiF is not on.

[Titus]

Gameplay, let's listen to music.

Whatcha got on? I am listening to Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez.

[Titus]

But but but
I made 1 point of magic gauge.
By being Reflect.
And now I want to spend it.
And become Refrain.
I wanna be a magical girl

Why can’t you use it without us?

I thought you were just trying to confirm you were redirector.

I confirmed with GiF that the redirection confirmation message is contingent on an actual redirection happening.
I could try to make scum kill eachother or something but that's hard and not really gauge efficient.

But everyone is telling us not to do it.

Spending transform abilities on confirming pops can redirect is a waste when no one doubts that.

[Titus]

But but but
I made 1 point of magic gauge.
By being Reflect.
And now I want to spend it.
And become Refrain.
I wanna be a magical girl

Why can’t you use it without us?

I thought you were just trying to confirm you were redirector.

I confirmed with GiF that the redirection confirmation message is contingent on an actual redirection happening.
I could try to make scum kill eachother or something but that's hard and not really gauge efficient.

But everyone is telling us not to do it.

Spending transform abilities on confirming pops can redirect is a waste when no one doubts that.

@Pops, why are you pushing for us to do that?

I'm not anymore.
I'm making gameplay shoot me and view my beautiful role pm

Gameplay, do not do this.

[Titus]

But why would you want him to vig you?

GiF will post the image in my role PM in the game thread.
It is super kawaii.
Also Dannflor will request it to get posted an additional time in one of the votecounts.
If he loves me the way I think he does.

Is something mechanical going to happen as a result of that and why would Dann be the one to request this?

And why do you keep sounding so weird?

Let it be. I intend on handling the pops situation.

[Titus]

But why would you want him to vig you?

GiF will post the image in my role PM in the game thread.
It is super kawaii.
Also Dannflor will request it to get posted an additional time in one of the votecounts.
If he loves me the way I think he does.

Is something mechanical going to happen as a result of that and why would Dann be the one to request this?

And why do you keep sounding so weird?

Let it be. I intend on handling the pops situation.

Titus does sound like a very strict mother here

Yes. It's better this way.

[Titus]

pops im sorry i can only do kittens

gameplay did you know that you are vigging Dannflor tonight?

But why would you want him to vig you?

GiF will post the image in my role PM in the game thread.
It is super kawaii.
Also Dannflor will request it to get posted an additional time in one of the votecounts.
If he loves me the way I think he does.

Is something mechanical going to happen as a result of that and why would Dann be the one to request this?

And why do you keep sounding so weird?

Let it be. I intend on handling the pops situation.

Titus does sound like a very strict mother here

Yes. It's better this way.

Titus is my godmother IRL

No. No. No. No. No. My Goddaughter is almost 10 and cannot regularly access the internet.

[Titus]

Fucking hell.

Looks like I won't need to resolve the pops situation.

[Titus]

HH will flip.

I am gone until the flip here.

Pops if you redirect, you are getting lynched tmo.

[Titus]

You can visit me SS.

I wouldn't mind you confirming I am a fire breathing hothead who just needs love.

[Titus]

I shot pops. I'll explain crumbs Friday or as soon as I get a chance.

[Titus]

gosh if I knew titus was going to do such bullshittery I was going to shoot just to crash the magic gauge

Gameplay the song I crumbled you was Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez. The song they collaborate on is "one and the same". I had a resolution for Pops. 1+1 = I am shooting pops.

More crumbs to come. Particularly day 1.

[Titus]

I shot pops because we literally could not chance having a scum redirect. He had to die. This is what I tried to tell T and E.

I also could have elected to be an rb on steroids. My day block could have blocked both night and day (hence why I thought a mod error may have been made n1). Then my transform would be another rb at night.

I made the election for vigs based on town consensus (mostly). Crumbs to explain later.

[Titus]

Wait, did you also have the option of being a cop?

No. I put in filler options to confuse scum.

[Titus]

I'm the dayblocker too.

Shocked I wasn't killed but ok.

[Titus]

Catching up now. If there's repeated questions, I'll answer at the end.

[Titus]

Dannflor looking real bad on that VCA

wait why
he was on rce
titus actually wasnt

This is because I had blocked RCE. I wanted to lynch scum with a full ability set.

Other than that I'm concerned about LLD and Katsuki. Both of them are not obv town, and they mason read each other.

This can be dealt with by PoE and bullets.

How does me unvoting RCE at fake L-1 make me scum DDL

Titus, why did you shoot pops? I thought I was next in your PoE

Two vigs would be problematic if Pops was scum. The only way we could reliably kill was without redirection. I know Sakura said an unknown shot vig with scum redirect was unlikely but she never clarified with multiple town vigs despite me trying to get at that without outright claiming. I did crumb the vig item as close as I could without claiming.

[Titus]

My gut instinct is that this is not a town ability on RC+Sakura's slot.

I'm just questioning whether I wanna spend like 5 days trying to lynch this slot while being screamed at tbh.

Life is hard rn lol

unlike the lion's share of players on this site you have never been responsible for leading a mislynch on me and your ability to read me has never been tested.
as of right now you haven't proven that you can't read me like the vast majority of other players in existence.

are you sure you want to transition that to 'has led on RC when he was essentially confirmed town mechanically' and never have even the slightest chance of lynching me in the future?

lol how do people even let you get away with that?

RC always claims through his vocal patterns when scum.

hard work and perseverance

There is a world where you are scum and scum shot you to pull this plan and that is something I think you could do.

There's also a world where you are third party or something with that ability and scum shot you.

You're not as clear as you think you are and it's hard to tell whether that is attributed to you being scum and this is your gambit so you can't lose it, or if you're town and you just have this false sense of confidence in your own status and obviously in that scenario is you would know you're town so of course you'd be confident in it.

So really I'm actually not interested in lynching you today. This is something that something else will sort out, of that much I am certain.

I just wanted to note that this is a concern I have because if I die tonight and people let you run to the end it's a bit of a problem. You've claimed to be more or less unkillable.

This would explain the two town vigs but that's putting the cart before the horse. RC did not want to lynch RCE yesterday. We'd need independent evidence of RC scum before going down that road, and there are better targets tonight, if I transform.

[Titus]

Titus can you tell me why pops, how your ability works, etc

I answered why pops already. It was a security blanket.

As for how my ability works...I'll explain.

By default, I had a day roleblocker and a transformation ability that's a second roleblocker.

On night 1, I was forbidden to transform. I instead had to pick between two options (an AD and AP build). This choice was compulsive and uninterruptible.

The AD build would have made my roleblock submitted during the day block both day and night actions. [This is why when RCE claimed, I thought a mod error might have been made. I didn't pick this option.]

The AP build changes my transformation from a night blocker into a vigilante which may or may not have conditions or modifiers.

I put the choice to my townreads day 1. The majority suggested rb plus vig over 2 rbs.

That's how it works.

[Titus]

RC did not want to lynch RCE yesterday. We'd need independent evidence of RC scum before going down that road, and there are better targets tonight, if I transform.

so your argument is that sakura hana wanted to bus and I didn't?

Not an argument. It's an observation. I am saying it's not enough.

[Titus]

at the very least, our odds of being scum should be probabilistically low enough that somewhere between that and the unlikeliness of actually getting scum us lynched the +ev of pushing on us is vanishingly small and not worth anyone's time.

This is where I am at with you LLD and Katsuki.

[Titus]

Like there's a small meta point on LLD and Kats that back in the 2010/2011 era scum would commonly reference buddies in opening. LLD did that. That alone is insufficient for a scumread too.

But it's not worth pursuing because so low odds like I said. Bullets can narrow down more likely targets.

I'm turning my attention to crumbs.

[Titus]

Spoiler: Le crumbs - Part 1

@RC, I'm going to ask you a series of odd-ball questions bc I think you're town and I have an odd decision to make. These questions aren't exclusive to RC. I do give more priority to townreads and strategic thinkers however.

Rank the utility of the following actions for town. Reasons not required. You may or may not factor in your own pm.

1) A cop and a vig
2) 2 roleblocks
3) 2 cops
4) A roleblock and a vig
5) 2 vigs
6) A roleblock and a cop

I claim a guilty on Sailor Senshi.

Lynch them today, if they're town, lynch us tomorrow.

I am inclined to second this, not based on the posting but for the fact

I shut off the cookie machine

and none of them noticed/commented. Yeah moon logic. Shiro got sad I didn't give him a cookie is not relevant.

This is me claiming the rb on Shiro.

Also some can't transform night 1 possibly throwing things off.

Why do you say this?

*cough* Think about that.

Also, my transform ability is different but has the same name as Chaos Wind. :/

I think DDL flip is possibly the most valuable information flip in the game.

+1

Would it be better for the dayblocker to hit LLD or DDL if both are scum?

UNVOTE: DDL

Sailor, did I leave you enough clues to find my flavor?

Spoiler: For Shiro

Apparently there are a lot of LoL fans together here.

I want to be risky and try for a scenario where townies with crappy abilities don't transform and townies with powerful abilities transform and we don't overheat. Worst case scenario our sane cop works every other nightbecause we overheat, best case scenario she acts every night. With the leashing, both best and worst case scenario is every other night.


Pandora and Loki are both represented as dark attribute characters in puzzles and dragons, and are both black. So that's why I picked the names.

Both their mythologies are kind of about subverted expectations.

The issue there is, how crappy do you expect everyone else's abilities to be? How can people judge their own abilities? If we have a gunsmith, should they transform? A tracker? A bodyguard? A motion detector?

Also some can't transform night 1 possibly throwing things off.

Also some can't transform night 1 possibly throwing things off.

Why do you say this?

*cough* Think about that.

Also, my transform ability is different but has the same name as Chaos Wind. :/

I left out the role crumbs.

Spoiler: Le Crumbs Part 2

And they said Gnar wasn't a magical girl but allowed this?

Gnar's a boy?

What if they identify as a girl?

Then the Rito will tell us he no longer identifies as a boy.

For now, I need to prepare for my date with Neeko. /joke.

Why Shyvana over Nidalee, Titus?

I'm a hothead and I'm M7 Shy. I mastered both builds. I'm garbage on Nidalee.

FMPOV SS is town

We can verify that scum nightblocked her then.

@Pops



@RC, Well that's your impetus. We can just agree on Pops then no? We can leave LLD to my sorting then.

[Titus]

Spoiler: Crumbs part 3

Pops feels like the kind of slot that's scummy but is probably not going to get lynched until super late in the game

I am very willing to go after pops RC, we can do it together


I just want to first figure out if we were blocked or lied to.

SS Venus

If you can transform again tonight, I can transform and ensure we can sort at least 2 of of LLD/pops/DDL with the lynch. That is unless scum block us both.

i dont like your lynchpool because im in it

Shiro can sort you.

Town!Titus has a plan.
You in RC?

Pops recent posting is highly scum motivated and worthy of a poisoned cookie too. The GIF is angry Shyvana.

Hey if they wanted to target someone with abysmal reads why not titus
I hadn't claimed or softed anything at that point so

It was p obvious I couldn't transform.

Looking forward to it..

GJ Gameplay on shots.

I was targetted by an apparent scum day ability that informed me at the beginning of night that I needed to choose between no-transforming N1, or no transforming N2 and skipping all day abilities D2. The PM was flavored but I think I'll withhold the flavor. I think it's scum because the wording didn't seem to suggest it would inhibit factional NK and now with the scum role PM flip it looks even more like that.

I am not claiming which of those two options presented to me that I chose.

This has high odds of being bullshit since GiF has not posted a VC since daybreak.

I know GiF resolves day abilities submitted as he does VCs.

Spoiler: Part 4

Don't hammer before we can give final thoughts and out our target

I would like to give LLD a theoretical chance to defend herself, even though I am like 95% sure she's scum. I'd want the same in her place.

We're not lynching LLD. She has the whole game to self defend

Facepalm. I agree we aren't lynching LLD.

Implication that LLD would die if not talking to me.

Katsuki is confirmed town to me.

Mechanically confirmed or intuition confirmed?

Mechanically confirmed.

Explain

I decline.

Is it worth incurring me ensuring that one of us dies?

I have literally bent over fucking backwards detailing every action I have here with you, and you're derailing an obvious scum redirector that's rolefishing me go to attack me?

I get you're stressed but come on. I haven't slept through the night in a month. Literally all my subtlety is spent here, trying to work with you.

Yet, you can't listen to the underlying subtext in everything I've done this game.

I slip I am the dayblocker here.

[Titus]

Spoiler: part 5

I'm not going against Tanas views on GIFs design philosophy.

I went against her and was wrong yesterday

Tana isn't using the right variables RC. I haven't gotten them through to you somehow to give to her.

RC/SH, if upon 24 hour reflection, you still don't get what I have conveyed this game to you and want pops alive, I'll have to work around you. I don't like it but it is what it is. Pops is near certainly scum.

I went for an AP build. (I am only explaining this at full claim or death. This will only make sense then.)

*cries* RC hasn't explained to you my resolution, or anything. RC could probably figure out 90% of my role PM if he looked close enough. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit but I cannot risk being clearer.

UNVOTE: Pops
VOTE: Dann

I do think that's... quite a lot of clears, but if we got no hard investigative power it may make sense, im not that good at setup spec without more info out on the table and im not gonna request more role info when unnecessary.
-Tana

I understand. I literally can't come up with

four

more reasons to explain.

So I'll do what I have to. Either town will be 100% protected, or we get a lock scum in 95% of scenarios.

The number 4 is italicized, harkening back to the ranking questions. 4 is rb and vig.

[Titus]

@Dann, You're claiming that I'm townreading RCE. I'm not. That should be pretty clear from my last post. I'm not voting RCE, not because I TR him, but because I can't change something. I'm not elaborating further on that. My not voting RCE is strategic, not bc townread.

Here, you're claiming RCE is a PoE possible scumread but you'd want to come after me. There's a wagon that conftown want on your PoE scumread. You cannot have the strategic reason to not vote RCE as its unique to me. Yet you want to divert. This reeks more of protecting RCE/survivalism/OMGUS/convenience than a real scumread.

You want to fight? Bring it on. If I'm overruled on RCE and RCE and Croag both flip scum, be well prepared there may be no night 3.

Ok I'm just done with crumbs now.

[Titus]

11 Alive, 2 scum, 4 people need to die.

Let's do a worst case scenario

If we went lynch kill lynch kill it would be 5-2 another lynch kill would be 3-2 and a final lynch would make it 2-2.

So if I'm confident all the scum are in that pool, we literally have enough mislynches to just lynch them all and it'll end. Literally the game would have to have 0 scum in that pool which isn't happening.

How many more times can our vigs shoot? Can we have them shoot some of these people on my list?

I will transform when I can and shoot on list. I'd rather be vague about the amount or conditions on transformation. Obvious reasons.

[Titus]

so potentially 2 vigs if we control the transformation gauge

the PoE can be taken care of very quickly

That's why I am not concerned with LLD, Katsuki and RC.

The protective, if any, will be on me/gameplay allowing us to cultivate the herd.

[Titus]

11 Alive, 2 scum, 4 people need to die.

Let's do a worst case scenario

If we went lynch kill lynch kill it would be 5-2 another lynch kill would be 3-2 and a final lynch would make it 2-2.

So if I'm confident all the scum are in that pool, we literally have enough mislynches to just lynch them all and it'll end. Literally the game would have to have 0 scum in that pool which isn't happening.

How many more times can our vigs shoot? Can we have them shoot some of these people on my list?

I will transform when I can and shoot on list. I'd rather be vague about the amount or conditions on transformation. Obvious reasons.

Yeah I dig. I don't need you to reveal shit, just need to know you're not 1-shot so I can plan at least a little in advance.

I can confirm that.

If it was one shot, I would have just submitted the ultra rb path.

[Titus]

Gameplay, if you want your choice in the pool post lynch, you can pick first. That or I can.

[Titus]

VOTE: CS

Should we have DDL gladiate?

[Titus]

I'm off to bed.

I'll check the thread for my civic duty Thursday afternoon at the earliest. That's if surgery goes swimmingly.

[Titus]

Just let us submit a motivate and have our green flip be one final fuck you to rc lmao

motivate me pls

+1 I am more likely to be blocked.

[Titus]

Shyvana (HoL)

Closest I can come without quoting my role PM.

[Titus]

Whats hol

That phrase in all town role PMs

[Titus]

I mean I wasnt the one posting 8 times thinking Kats scumclaimed over his stupid joke on shooting E

If you think you can intimidate me into unvoting you, think again.

Did you visit me?

[Titus]

Just let us submit a motivate and have our green flip be one final fuck you to rc lmao

motivate me pls

+1 I am more likely to be blocked.

I thought you and T + E were the only roleblockers?

Then how did you end up blocked?

[Titus]

My block is locked.
I
will not change it because of vacation and limited access until after my surgery today.

[Titus]

VOTE: DDL

[Titus]

Just let us submit a motivate and have our green flip be one final fuck you to rc lmao

motivate me pls

+1 I am more likely to be blocked.

I thought you and T + E were the only roleblockers?

Then how did you end up blocked?

We were only dayblocked. I thought you dayblocked us D1?

I did. I forgot you weren't nightblocked

[Titus]

Yeah there was the confusion over your DDL result. I forgot you recanted that.

[Titus]

Why didn't you target me? I thought there was a bonus to matching flavor?

[Titus]

Yeah there was the confusion over your DDL result. I forgot you recanted that.

Yeah, GIF was late in confirming, so we thought no result meant he was lying and then we found out he wasn’t but since flavour isn’t tied to alignment, we clearly misinterpreted what the result meant.

I don’t think flavour is entirely meaningless however, it think it may be tied to abilities. I wouldn’t know enough about Magical Girls to be too much of an expert on that though.

Based on my PM flavor is loosely tied. Everything related to Shyvana's ultimate makes sense, can't use Day 1 because it comes later. It's targeted at a target. In LoL it displaces and does damage. It does less if you don't build AP.

The Q is a bit of a stretch but more visually rewarding to the imagination if you see Shyvana grabbing with Twin Fangs.

[Titus]

By capture you mean jail right?

[Titus]

Surgery went fine. Docs recommend no attention to detail for 24 hours. Excuse sloppiness. Obviously no VCA until Friday minimum.

Co-host all games.

[Titus]

That should be X-post

[Titus]

dis·cred·it
/disˈkredət/
verb
harm the good reputation of (someone or something).

Which of your reputation did I harm

That’s

slander

.

Are you seriously going to force me to post the dictionary definition?

A discredit is not slander if the discredit is truthful.

[Titus]

I am ok. The surgery went well. I am calm as fuck but foggy because of pain meds. This may last up to a week. Thanks for patience. Not vla.

[Titus]

dae rc scum

Unless someone claims a guilty, I am not interested until LLD's pool expires. If this theory is correct, one scum should still exist in that pool. That would clear LLD and Katsuki barring a gambit.

RC is likely taking an extremely old page from one of my playbooks. It's so old he may be unaware if town. My highness gives me that calm and perspective. I think anti-anxiety meds are so in order.

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I am ok. The surgery went well. I am calm as fuck but foggy because of pain meds. This may last up to a week. Thanks for patience. Not vla.

[Titus]

I love that GIF. No pun intended. What's it from. Consoling the redhead is a nice touch since I knocked being a redhead off the bucketlist.

[Titus]

@CS, I respect your push on RC. However, I am in a mathematical position where you, DDL and Dann are much better flips. RC!scum likely has one of them as his partner (long shot SS).

If we find RC's partner, then I can turn to RC scum. This also gives us LLD and Katsuki clear which will help if we need to lynch RC. My vote isn't wedded to being on you at all. Find the scum in DDL and Dann and we'll talk. Notice I didn't block you.

[Titus]

Wait, you think T + E and us are buddies now? Seriously?

No. That's just a .0001% I haven't eliminated mathematically but if I had to put you as scum, it would be with DDL. There's zero point even looking at you unless we're done with the others. I find it extremely unlikely but I am candid about possibilities. My wording was terrible.

[Titus]

My wording and conveying of things is very unclear after surgery. It's the medications.

[Titus]

Do you seriously believe scum!RC gets his buddies to flip him? Like I can’t even begin to comprehend your logic on this.

RC and I staged a mutual bus early once in a Diffusion of Power setup when we were partners so the other would confirmed clear. I won after that bus.

Taking a shot to confirm himself is not out of range. It's just not worth investigating as his partner is likely in CS/Dann/DDL as scum.

[Titus]

Not sure if this is Nancy but she can tell you about how I thought RC was scum in another game and was shouted down and gaslit by everyone until he won. :/

[Titus]

@SS, Yeah.

I also feel RC had a possible town gambit with his revive. He's gambiting as either alignment.

[Titus]

Not sure if this is Nancy but she can tell you about how I thought RC was scum in another game and was shouted down and gaslit by everyone until he won. :/

Yes, but he wasn’t mech cleared in that game. He literally can’t be scum here.

People said he was mech cleared.

Mech cleared isn't true. He's just like 99% not scum. I am very particular on that word.

[Titus]

Not sure if this is Nancy but she can tell you about how I thought RC was scum in another game and was shouted down and gaslit by everyone until he won. :/

Yes, but he wasn’t mech cleared in that game. He literally can’t be scum here.

People said he was mech cleared.

Mech cleared isn't true. He's just like 99% not scum. I am very particular on that word.

How is it only 99%? He was flipped, his role anyway. Who do you think was responsible for that?

Scum. My theory is RC's buddies shot him so he could coast. It's just not worth pursuing atm.

[Titus]

There are two scum dead and you think I’d try to bus my buddy?

I know you’re not sr me but DDL? *mind blown*

DDL's gladiate sounds like a scum role.

Anyone outside the pool that's scum (barring remote LLD Kats) should bus. That's the only way to survive the gauntlet.

[Titus]

Or he could just have said, scum shot me last night but my ability stopped it, so someone needs to be on me tonight. I’d say the fact that he gambited and didn’t get in the way of Croag rolestopping GP, even more strengthens my tr because the gambit was arguably more protown than the other possibility I suggested.

Not disagreeing. I just work from possible theoretically and work backwards.

[Titus]

Scum in DDL Dann and CS would not. If there's outside scum, they might.

[Titus]

Ok so, regarding Croag, apparently GIF forgot that i sent him the action and didnt resolve it, so basically it's as if we never speared her.
-Tana

Can you spear today? I only care to coordinate.

[Titus]

Croag is very suspected and Croag didn't protect Bitmap but you which is suboptimal. Sorry RC. You've been off your game and Bitmap conftown

[Titus]

If Croag fails to protect me or gameplay, I'll be suspect.

[Titus]

Scum in DDL Dann and CS would not. If there's outside scum, they might.

You mean a deep wolf, I’m assuming. I still think bussing isn’t optimal for scum with half the scumteam already wiped out. If we had scum!Saudade in this game, I would be then inclined to agree with you.

I think a deep wolf is definitely possible, since I’m neither sr Dann or SC but I’m tl most of the playerlist, so probably one of my reads is likely wrong but I also didn’t like DDL’s early posting either. They struck me as kind of fence sittery.

I also think DDL had a reasonable chance of being a D1 scum bus, so I would be looking closely at players who both hard defended LE and wound up on that wagon.

Can you expand on the last paragraph?

I need to do my VCA tmo.

[Titus]

VC 1.10

Tana and Ephraim (0):

Hidden Happiness (0):

Chaos Wind (1):

Lady Lambdadelta

Croag (1):

Croag

Bitmap (0):

RCEnigma (0):

Dannflor (0):

Sailor Senshi (0):

Cafe Stile (1):

Chaos Wind

Gamma Emerald (0):

popsofctown (1):

Sailor Senshi

DrDoLittle (5):

Cafe Stile, Lady Eventide, RCEnigma, Hidden Happiness

Titus (0):

Lady Eventide (8):

DrDoLittle, Katsuki, popsofctown, Dannflor, Tana and Ephraim, gameplay506, Bitmap, Gamma Emerald

Lady Lambdadelta (1):

Titus

gameplay506 (0):

Katsuki (0):

Not Voting:

None

With 17 alive, 9 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-09-27 16:41:30)

Looking at the EoD day 1, I'm less confident scum would have gone after LLD for the flip. CW and RCE did not have the influence.

RC keeps using the rule of 3, which is problematic.

[Titus]

VC 1.11

Tana and Ephraim (0):

Hidden Happiness (0):

Chaos Wind (1):

Lady Lambdadelta

Croag (1):

Croag

Bitmap (0):

RCEnigma (0):

Dannflor (0):

Sailor Senshi (0):

Cafe Stile (1):

Chaos Wind

Gamma Emerald (0):

popsofctown (0):

DrDoLittle (5):

Cafe Stile, Lady Eventide,

RCEnigma

, Hidden Happiness

Titus (0):

Lady Eventide (9):

DrDoLittle, Katsuki, popsofctown, Dannflor, Tana and Ephraim, gameplay506, Bitmap, Gamma Emerald, Sailor Senshi

Lady Lambdadelta (1):

Titus

gameplay506 (0):

Katsuki (0):

Not Voting:

None

With 17 alive, 9 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-09-27 16:41:30)

Well, at least one scum was on DDL.

I actually think if scum were to attack DDL, it's for a better mislynch. Let's reads were bad and she had high utility for scum.

[Titus]

Oh I'm also not a fan of an Oversoul lynch due to the neighboring rule.

[Titus]

VOTE: Dann

[Titus]

Then you'd want to be on CS and suppose other than LE, DDL had a threatening read.

[Titus]

Yeah OS isn't a high odd scum flip. Violates the neighbor rule.

[Titus]

@RC, Good luck with that. I'm only voting/shooting that if it's the last of the uncleared. I'd rather go for Dann.

@Gameplay agreed for now. Can we vote Dann? Then you pick your vig target and I can shoot in the remainder or vice versa?

[Titus]

Also there is a transformation missing from Night 1 that nobody has claimed when I asked so technically they an active ability could've NK'ed them as well.
Just saying for future reference if needed, going back to my life, bb

Bb?

I did not transform. The n1 shot is not me. I think everyone knows that but since I am a vig, best to reconfirm.

I think the vig would have claimed the RC shot right?

I think Gamma is the missing transform? Unless you accounted for that?

[Titus]

Maria lied about her role, that alone should be justification for lynching them.

Explain please.

[Titus]

Maria lied about her role, that alone should be justification for lynching them.

Explain please.

On day 1 they said they could confirm LE so everyone should unvote them. They have no capacity to clear LE. With LE's reads and having declared 1v1s with at least 3 town, keeping them alive would be extremely pro-scum. I realize that you townread people getting mad at me because you get mad at me but it's really not towny.

Let's assume you're right for a moment. In fact, I already did that at the top of the page. People flashwagoned LLD, giving evidence she's town. That wagon was lead by you. You also killed it.

The wagon that ended yesterday on scum, you weren't interested in.

The counter wagon on Day 1 was DDL. Scum wouldn't bus to protect LE. So DDL is less likely scum.

Neighboring each other on DDL also isn't very likely. (That's why I am not an OS scum fan). If DDL had a correct pocket pick maybe, but I'm not seeing it.

So can you can explain how HH lied but I'm not to inclined on OS or DDL atm.

[Titus]

i can towncase Dannflor: can you or can anyone else towncase HH?

Go ahead but I think you should take a back seat RC. Your reads have been off.

[Titus]

Let's assume you're right for a moment. In fact, I already did that at the top of the page. People flashwagoned LLD, giving evidence she's town. That wagon was lead by you. You also killed it.

The wagon that ended yesterday on scum, you weren't interested in.

until you know OS's alignment, you cannot make any conclusions about what me "not being interested in" that wagon means.

I was referring to you not being interested in the RCE wagon.

[Titus]

i can towncase Dannflor: can you or can anyone else towncase HH?

Go ahead but I think you should take a back seat RC. Your reads have been off.

If HH is/was scum I have had the best reads in the game by far all game.

No. You wanted to protect RCE before they claimed. You wagoned several town to claiming because it was supposedly your last day, so we followed you. You'd change your mind and wagon someone else.

I'm not inclined to follow you anywhere.

[Titus]

I was referring to you not being interested in the RCE wagon.

It was a low priority wagon on a player who was going to die before endgame anyway and who was reasonably likely to be scum but not the highest value pick.
I believe I said at several points both to SHana and in game that RcE could easily have been scum.

But we've flipped him, and now we're here, and I wish we didn't flip him because people are holding that against me even though it's mechanically confirmed that scum bussed.

That's the problem X could be scum but you would rather have wagoned town.

Like I said, you can say your piece on Dann but I am only interested in Dann or Croag today.

LLD is the smartest player atm, and she hardly posts.

[Titus]

@Titus: Please allow time for others to show and make their own votes known, even if you would prefer my lynch to DDL's. I want to hear more from LLD at least.

She wants LLD to come back because LLD has been defending her all game and regardless of LLD's alignment, when LLD gets back she believes that LLD will hard defend her and make this wagon a lot harder to get through.

The game just makes my soul hurt

But in a broader sense idk I've never been this bad

I have to be right on something and I think it's CS.

it's already aimed lol HH is dying.

RcE is definitely the least

meta defining

of my reads and I can maybe see him as town but let me think about that.

I wonder if it signals DDL as scum deliberately being a counterwagon voted by scum.
I should give that a closer look.

[DDL/HH/CS] is an interesting solve that I'm currently mulling over.

I don't want RcE dead at all

[Titus]

I am going to fight. If OS doesn't flip scum as I expect you're free to do what you gotta do but I have learned better after past games than to risk situations like this.
There are plenty of universes where you decide at night to shoot someone else and we end up in 7 way tomorrow with 2 scum still alive.

I'm giving you two days, as we'll have gone through the lurker pool. Dann and Croag are better picks though.

[Titus]

In post 4238, RadiantCowbells wrote:
I don't want RcE dead at all

Given that his scumflip is being used to attack my reads and force mislynches, why do you think that I felt that way despite thinking that he was scum a solid % of the tiem?

Don't act like all the other wrong reads don't exist. Take a back seat. Vote Dann or Croag or towncase them.

[Titus]

Hm its not that I'm dismissing your reads, its that I trust my reads the most.
I was right on RCE and CW scum and I am not doing too bad with my townreads
Maybe I am wrong about Dann but we'll see.
Pedit: Can we not kill croag

I prefer Dann, like you. Croag has to keep us alive or claim scum, as we run through the pool. If Dann flips town, let's dual target Croag actually (if we can shoot). If he's scum, one or both will be blocked.

[Titus]

I think this game will be lost if we do not lynch exactly OS today.

Don't act like all the other wrong reads don't exist. Take a back seat. Vote Dann or Croag or towncase them.

You're not better at this game than I am and no amount of selfdelusion will change that.

In general, probably not. In this game I have had large amounts of emotional turmoil but still managed to block scum and push comes to shove vote scum even when you threatened me for doing so. Your insults do not scare me anymore.

[Titus]

Considering GP and I are the ones with guns, you should be trying to work with us as if we're competent, not browbeating us.

Dann, any announcements?

[Titus]

I think Dann's town btw

I agree there with RC

Can you say why?

I also think RC might have been fostering paranoia.

Please don't motivate me tonight. I'm too high if night comes soon.

[Titus]

also literally by role I should be town

with how much power town has this game

my day ability is confirmed to be posting pictures of cats in a VC once a day

that's literally it

unless my night ability is something bonkers (hint, it is not and I will never use it) I feel like I'm mechanically much more likely to be town

Post cats. I dare you.

[Titus]

ok I'll do it on the next VC

Considering I blocked you Thursday and the mod posted a VC on Friday, you should be saying you were blocked.

Are you immune to certain actions?

If not, you better start crowing mod error.

[Titus]

I think Dann's D1 play with mediating the fights between tana and ephraim and sailor senshi was highly town indicative
i actually explained that before in d1

i can try to find it

And if the answer is Dann and RC?

@Gameplay, I'll holster tonight if you want.

[Titus]

im not immune to anything

sooooooooo

Alright, I'll verify the mod resolved my action.

[Titus]

im not immune to anything

sooooooooo

Alright, I'll verify the mod resolved my action.

Well the mod's confirmed to have... forgotten my action D2 sooo.
-Tana

I'm verifying the resolution before I crow guilty RC.

Wouldn't you agree Dann is guilty if the mod resolved accurately?

[Titus]

I lowkey dont get why croag is solved but i trust sailor senshi's read there

Croag is not solved. His rolestop was bad.

[Titus]

Following that train of logic, were he to flip town after would you agree that you should be roleblocked and vigged as a counter guilty?

No, because the logical inference at that point would be scum interference. It makes no sense for scum!Titus to fake a guilty on a widely suspected slot.

Second, gameplay has requested I already holster. I agreed. If I went back on that, I should be turbo lynched.

[Titus]

I lowkey dont get why croag is solved but i trust sailor senshi's read there

Croag is not solved. His rolestop was bad.

who was his target?

I retract the rolestop being bad. My notes had RC but he claimed he role stopped gameplay.

[Titus]

If Dann is town, 95% chance GiF just PMs Dann. 5% scum blocked me as I got no notice.

[Titus]

If Dann is town, 95% chance GiF just PMs Dann. 5% scum blocked me as I got no notice.

GIF notified me something D3 about a thing I should have know D2

so, ya know.

What was that?

Also, that's why I PMed GiF. Dann didn't announce the block unlike RCE and SS.

[Titus]

@Sailor, please verify Dann got the same msg.

Let's cover bases.

Gn all.

[Titus]

VOTE: Oversoul

[Titus]

Still wouldn't surprise me if Oversoul's town but she cracked.

[Titus]

Still wouldn't surprise me if Oversoul's town but she cracked.

is this easier for you than having to face that i'm actually a pretty good mafia player?

You are. This game your reads have been shit. Mr. RCE and CW are town. Even good players have bad games.

If OS is scum, then I'll reevaluate. Occasionally the neighbor rule is off but I'd have to look at why.

I don't regret standing up to you regardless.

[Titus]

CW never went above being one of my top 3 scumreads from literally the earliest pages of the game
RcE was a nullread all of D1 then became a mild scumread D2... just that I thought that HH was a better lynch... who has now self hammered and is presumably flipping scum.

You thought half the game was worth wagoning over RCE. You threatened me for being correct in my block and vote.

So yeah, I'm not saying your reads are worth following.

I am holstering because gameplay asked. I trust him.

You always have an excuse for your mislynched. Being wrong on LE wasn't your fault, it solved the game. Threatening me for blocking and voting scum was essential so you could be superior. Guess what, if you want respect, don't talk down to me and own up to mistakes.

Let's stop talking so LLD can catch up. LLD at least admits her flaws.

[Titus]

Titus you wanted to kill me over RCE

you don't get room to talk

I had neutered RCE already.

RC if you didn't falsely claim credit and denigrate me, maybe I'd listen more. When you threaten me on behalf of scum, I will not trust you.

Talk to me through Tana. I am in too much pain to deal with you RC.

[Titus]

rc i'm just salty that i had a soulread on Eva who got lynched and the people who i gave a shit about to actually push were scum. you pushed me for not being a good enough player to come up with good reads without tmi
your reads arent entirely dogshit

RC thinks we're incapable. You and me, let's beat him.

[Titus]

actually if you look at the numbers i am scum via vca

Titus, you haven't cased dannflor yet. you have given no supporting evidence for him being scum besides your name being on it. i don't trust your name.
how is that different from you refusing to fall me on oversoul? at least I consistently lead on scum, you don't have a good record AND you're expecting to be sheeped on your good name.

RC, none of this is true. Like I said, have Tana talk to me. You threaten me for voting scum you wanted alive.

So no, you don't get to berate me.

I'm bolstering because gameplay asked.

Believe your nonsense. You're nothing more than an egomaniac. You're not a narcissist barely. But if you keep blaming others for your attitude, you will be that way. Your mood = your responsibility. Sometimes, you are not the hero. I wasn't d1. I was good when working from LLD as a base.

Shut the hell up so she can catch up.

/mute RC

[Titus]

*bolstering = holstering

[Titus]

I may have chosen to forget whether this game had a wolf roleblocker because that fact doesnt impact me
if there was you might wanna fire still, titus

your discretion though.

I gave my word, I honor my word. I'm loyal to a fault. I pursue my wincon to a fault.

I hope to see you around more.

This melatonin refuses to kick in.

[Titus]

LE wasn't my top scumread on D1 even, I just thought that they would never get lynched if we let them go D1 and I didn't want that and I used that wagon to solve this game.

This is not accepting responsibility for LE.
RC thought he'd never lynch someone he wasn't certain was scum because he felt like he couldn't lynch her later.
Then, he says that control set him up to solve.
Despite townreading RCE to the point of threatening me.

I'm ok with saying RC got lucky on Oversoul and that he's usually good. He's just a broken clock with a case of the bully here. I can and must stand up to him.

[Titus]

Good night Venus

[Titus]

Tana > Ephraim

I am so in there.

[Titus]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

tana's pretty amazing.

We agree here.

LLD is amazing.

[Titus]

@Tana,

No one is doubting RC is usually good. It's his inability to pass credit, his asshole type behavior, and his inability to accept flaws that cut into him being perceived with the skill he has.

I went out of my way to work with you both this game, and LLD.

You know who bullied me, threatened me and voted me despite me blocking scum?

I admit I wasn't perfect (I scumreason masons a lot). But RC wouldn't have to strong arm lunches if he learned how to treat people like you do.

@Venus, Look at his actual words. He's not saying lynching LE was wrong, but she merely happened to be town.

[Titus]

There's a reason I want LLD to catch up. She, not RC, is the town I find most helpful.

Good night.

[Titus]

VOTE: TITUS VOTE: TITUS VOTE: TITUS VOTE: TITUS VOTE: TITUS VOTE: TITUS

Rc you’re not as bad if you can admit you’re bad

VOTE: Titus

[Titus]

And look, pops did redirect scum to themselves too!
-Tana

I agree with pops's play.

I agree with your position if one vig.

We had two which I figured GiF might be ok with. I would be a counter to pops.

With two vigs, I felt we couldn't take the chance. I knew there was a chance I was wrong. I don't regret the shot.

You were right. I take responsibility for the shot. I'd still repeat it.

I would make that shot anytime as a vig. It's too valuable.

You were right. I feel sorry for pops.

[Titus]

Let's just say, we've all made mistakes this game (except scum, coz they need to "make mistakes" to win), but dumping all responsibility for mistakes onto RC is unfair.
-Tana

If he wants all the credit, he can take all the blame.

Also, RC, I took responsibility for being wrong on LLD. That was a wrong read.

Strategy and protecting conftown meant Pops had to die if there was a 5% chance of Pops being scum. If pops was scum, more town die. Pops could possess me or gameplay nightly.

[Titus]

Wait, Katsuki's role was monitored? Fuck. Fuck.

RC are you 100% certain LLD is town?

[Titus]

*janitored

[Titus]

VOTE: Dann

[Titus]

UNVOTE: Dann

While I think the last scum is Dann, I am not ready for EoD.

[Titus]

4 votes should not hammer.

[Titus]

I count 8.

[Titus]

No crap 7.

*pulls hair out*

[Titus]

Gameplay, let's figure out shots.

[Titus]

Why can't we both shoot Gameplay?

[Titus]

So who is alive?

Lld
Cs
Croag
Me

I think lynching here is a good idea.

I also think full unambiguous claims are a good idea from everyone.

I'm strongly inclined to think LLD town because of OS. Sure LLD could be scum, but I am not so inclined. It's a nagging paranoia. I think LLD is town. If Katsuki faked masons...:@ post game.

CS and Croag have been floating at the outskirts. I'll want to hear their exact capabilities too.

I doubt there's a way to break this but I want to try.

CS, what happens if you motivate town!me?

[Titus]

So who is alive?

Lld
Cs
Croag
Me

I think lynching here is a good idea.

I also think full unambiguous claims are a good idea from everyone.

I'm strongly inclined to think LLD town because of OS. Sure LLD could be scum, but I am not so inclined. It's a nagging paranoia. I think LLD is town. If Katsuki faked masons...:@ post game.

CS and Croag have been floating at the outskirts. I'll want to hear their exact capabilities too.

I doubt there's a way to break this but I want to try.

CS, what happens if you motivate town!me?

Titus, if you trust me the game is over. You can shoot tonight right?

We just need to lynch the one of them with less likelyhood to be immune or block your shot. Right?

Yes if you're town. If CS motivates me, then I can shoot more which covers for bp.

[Titus]

I actually can't shoot the night after I shoot, sooo I couldn't shoot n3. N4 I was blocked bc gauge.

[Titus]

How did you get that confirmation?

I know we want to end but...

[Titus]

Cafe, why didn't you motivate me?

[Titus]

@LLD, Fullclaim please.

[Titus]

Why woulf I full claim Titus I am confirmed town and I am not exposong the 0.1 percent chance there is some weird thing that can stop our lock if I am wrong on Croag

Yeah you aren't conftown, just probtown.

If you're just a Mason, why would you seek to be motivated at all? If I am motivated, it's 100% lock victory for me so...

[Titus]

I am not just a mason Titus.

The game is over because I can act twice tonight.

I am mason. It isnt in contest. Unless you are suggrst Katuski a confirmed townie LIED?!

Probably not. I just know you've run game on me before as scum. I just want to know all the cards on the table.

The faster you want to end the day, it would probably help to comply. I had a long as fuck RL day and I want to control for emotionally drained Titus.

[Titus]

Okay, fine.

I am going to be able to jailkeep you both Titus.

I have a passive ability that will solve the other half of the problem if Croag is town and we will have guaranteed tomorrow.

Ok, so if I trust you, then I can't shoot CS anyway.

Tomorrow, I vote CS.

We lynch CS.

Gg or you win

[Titus]

Ok, I struggle to trust you, but I know my role is OP too. I'll hold my shot if CS motivated you. If he motivated me, I'll shoot.

VOTE: Croag

[Titus]

So basically I was right and shouted down and lied to. If CS motivates me, we still win but LLD was townier because of the mason claim.

I apologize for not having the emotional capacity to sort it out. Maybe next time I'll be better.