In post 2140, Kerset wrote:Flubbernugget wants us to think that he acted non-towny in order to secure his PR, this could be the case. His D2 was fine.
standard around how it is allowable for TPRs to act scummy in order to dodge bullets - i don't agree with this approach to reading flubz really because i think his low nk equity is largely due to him being busy irl - i just think he's...passively? scummy
In post 2140, Kerset wrote:Sirfetch is top town. S_S is useless, he deserve to be scumreaded.
sirf top town is actually kinda fine
ss isn't what i'd call useless at all, he's been playing the game he's just not easy to read in this gamestate. the language of "deserve to be scumreaded" kinda leaves this read on a strangely south-of-null spot given kerset apparently believes they've seen a scum agenda between the last two scum itt. there's no "but he still seems town", or "i think he's evil lurking scum if i'm wrong on one of {tw,aaron}" - just that he's underwhelming and should be scumread for it
In post 2140, Kerset wrote:Aaron is trying hard to prove that he is unskilled in this game, it looks like agenda crafted by scumteam to clean him.
i like to be vain enough to think if i coached aaron thru d3 i would've done a better job of it
regardless this is kinda disregarding towards the game related content aaron has generated and is a read which HEAVILY works backwards; unless there's a specific meta tell here, downplaying oneself is rarely alignment indicative. aaron is donwplaying himself yes but it's like, a tonal quirk, not him excusing himself from playing the game or smth on the basis of being a lol so confused!! newbie lol!! - he's still been playing and the posts kerset quoted to illustrate their point abt aaron were like.....posts in which he is sorting noms while inviting people to reach out if he's making a mistake/missing things...... i think kerset is scumreading the townier parts of aaron's iso due to a tonal quirk and i have no idea how town!kerset has considered this and decided it's ai
don't let their join date fool you: kerset CAN town and they're pretty astute.
this makes me think they haven't read many of skitter's posts... i am constantly paranoid of skitter but i think she's town here. she's just pushing town things. if you've spotted scum agenda and the rest of the list is kinda autotown that's totally valid but this feels like a really strange situation to hedge on a read in; if you're seeing scum in {woopz,aaron,?ss?} i'm kinda just wondering where the "I townread this but I'm paranoid so I might be wrong" is? "i can't read her because of paranoia" feels more like you just can't work out what to do with a read on her; if this is the case i'd like to know why you're holding back kers
sets a peculiar standard against flubbz in particular but also aaron; if flubbz is town, scum ALREADY KNOW 100% that he is a town power role. him playing scummy is effectively entirely irrelevant which makes me think that there's a higher chance of him just...being scum.
i'd argue that adorable has posted townier noises than flubz but is deeper under the radar. i have no idea how you earnestly reach a position of "flubz is town trying to fly under the radar because he's a town power role who wants to use his town power role" and then also reach a position of "adorable is harmless but has surface reads" when realistically flubz playing scummy in this situation is just straight out scum indicative
double-standard to aaron's style as well: aaron has been transparently more engaged than adorbz with less-surface-level reads and yet his content isn't worth analysing for alignment indicators because ? he's pushing an ? evil scum agenda ? of trying to ? look townie ? for no reason ? - adorbz on the other hand is fine even tho they're totally utr (:
i don't dislike this read itself basically but in context it makes their reads on flubz/aaron look more positioned
In post 2140, Kerset wrote:Wooper planned this whole course of action for his personal advantage. All he wanted was to shine during massclaim, which he planned for this day but some things got his way. Xayah could clarify herself, if she would get time for it.
- correct at a mechanical level, it's in my best interests to be about as exciting as cardboard for d1-2 then up the spice factor d3. i'm a n2 vigilante. like...what do you expect?
- tEh EvIl ScUmGoD standard vs. nullread on skitter in the style of "i can't read her because i'm paranoid" is another kinda peculiar doubelstandard
- what were you expecting xayah to clarify? she was almost totally utr except when she was pushed and exploded to avoid a lynch - it looked like scumplay and unless she seriously started kicking ass lategame she would have been mislynched (except that we would have been suspicious because she was utr for earlygame then started pushing stuff lategame and would have pushed her and then she would have AtE'd and ? ? ?) - if you don't think my xayah vig was objectively very good and towny i'd appreciated
- what exactly got in the way of the agenda you're seeing?..what is the agenda you're seeing? i appreciate you probably think i'm steering the game. that's because i'm in the mood to, and it's mechanically optimal for a n2 vigilante to start kicking down doors on d3. i don't understand what agenda you're seeing and how you're coming to the conclusion that it makes me clearly scum at the cost of sorting other players thoroughly
In post 2140, Kerset wrote:Suji is kind of null read for me.
Luca is towny but i would take here the same approach as people do towards skitter.
these are fine but just too hedgy - i'm finding it kinda uncomfortable as i write on that sirf is the only townread you have which you aren't nulling/hedging on but that's kinda whatever
my current reads are kinda fluxy