In post 1886, Lady 7 wrote:This is expecting everyone to read the game like you do.
i mean. you could townread different people. that's fine. what i have a problem with is people keeping their options open to lynch essentially any slot.
especially when it involves sniping at my dance partner to make her mislynchable right after you didn't try to pair with me instead.
Look I’m not going to fake townreads. And scumhunting isn’t leaving hints open to mislynch, it’s trying to find out people’s alignments.
I didn’t snipe. This right here feels like sniping at me though, and you have been for days. You’re not reading what I’ve written in response to your theory, you’re just sniping at me. I didn’t make her muslynchable. I had a theory I acknowledged could be silly. Didn’t even push it. You’re the one keeping it front and forefront by claiming I’m not allowed to scumhunt.
Look I’m not going to fake townreads. And scumhunting isn’t leaving hints open to mislynch, it’s trying to find out people’s alignments.
I didn’t snipe. This right here feels like sniping at me though, and you have been for days. You’re not reading what I’ve written in response to your theory, you’re just sniping at me. I didn’t make her muslynchable. I had a theory I acknowledged could be silly. Didn’t even push it. You’re the one keeping it front and forefront by claiming I’m not allowed to scumhunt.
Do you remember the point that I said
I explicitly think that you don't actually feel scummy despite my disliking your read progressions on an intellectual level and that's why I wanted a hood to sort you more directly
I think that G5 is explicitly scummy in his approach. I haven't responded to you because I didn't really have anything to say: I already understood that you could be town with the progressions you had.
I'm not calling you scum, in other words. I think your play has been pro-scum in terms of the sense of having not enough townreads in an absolute sense but that doesn't make you scum.
G5 is scum for more than his lack of townreads and his reluctance to dole out townreads, which is why I am spiritually voting him.
No, I don’t remember you saying you wanted a hood with me to sort me more directly. What I remember is l4 and l8 expressing interest in pairing with you. And you wanting to pair with l8 but asking me and 4 to advertise ourselves which mademe uncomfortable.
you can think im proscum for not having townreads I don’t have. If I could quicken it up, I would. It’s not fun how long it takes me sometimes. Sometimes it’s quick and that’s glorious. Other times it’s not and I plod.
So remember earlier when I said it was funny when people misaltguess people in altgsmes and misters based on that?
Yeah it’s not funny. It’s miserable and one of the surest ways for town to lose. I’m not kidding. I’ve played nearly 100 alt games and it happens way too often even when people should know better.
Please remember that while you think you’re right, you might not be.
So please or the love of all that is holy stop talking about people’s mains.
Grrr g6 I kinda wanna punch you in the face. I’m lying in bed trying to fall asleep and thinking over the day, and something you said about lady 6 made me think that I think I know who you think they are, which in so realizing and thinking about that has me all kinds of confused on lady 6 and it feels like 5 Palimpsests on top of those thoughts.
This is why there should be no talk about mains. It’s just one more barrier.
(I don’t actually want to punch you in the face btw)
I’m liking g4 more by the way. Still think of him in his den smoking a cigar, but feels less manipulative than the feel I had the other night. Also it’s really nice when there’s someone else working on thread congeniality.
This discussion has been going on for the better part of at least 30 pages. It's dominating the discussion. It's a distraction, and we're in predance, which means there's literally nothing we can do about it. And with all back and forth, paranoid theories and lack of cohesion, nobody's even going to listen if one of you are right.
So please can the group of g5/g6/l8 stop taiking about each other? Collect the stuff you want to say, wait for predance to be over, discuss it with your partner, and then once dance actually begins present your thoughts after the thread has had time to calm down.
Even if one of you is right about one in that group, there's still 2 other scum to catch. And if you're not right, you'l ve just allowed a big huge distraction for them to hide behind and make themselves look good by either ignoring it or jumping in.
I completely understand the desire to get your point out I really do, but step back for a little, please.
I think this type of things is typical? In every game I've been in that has a confirmation stage, which is what I'm taking this as, people get their reads in that stage and continue from there.
I think this type of things is typical? In every game I've been in that has a confirmation stage, which is what I'm taking this as, people get their reads in that stage and continue from there.
Is there something different that you're seeing?
It’s more problematic in this setup because it is lining up two deaths. I’ve already relegated myself to the fact that I am going to die if not preDance, than first dance unless G1 decides to be my knight in shining armor. I’m not sure I want him to be my savior, either. I do townread L2’s posts and I would much prefer that L2 does not die. But that comes necessarily at the cost of my own life.
This is all under the operating premise that G8 is scum, which even if he isn’t, he has to go because he’s simply unreadable at this point with how little content he has.
I agree that I don't want to see L2 die, but I guess I haven't been worrying about it because I figured L5 would be left out anyway.
As for the first bit, I don't really see how it's different. I do think that the two deaths issue means we have to be even more careful about our reads, but I don't understand why getting reads and scum reads in predance is more problematic. Maybe I'm not understanding where you're going with this though.
In post 2406, Gentleman 6 wrote:Like you guys are saying G5s been discussed to death but afaik no one besides me scumreads him still. Everyone is sitting here talking about how L8 is scum and L7 is calling that more productive discussion. It's not really a question if what's protown it's whether you guys agree with what's being discussed, and since no one agrees that G5 is scum trying to call him scum is getting pooh-poohed whereas the L8 is scum circlejerk which is for really questionable reasons even if she is scum is a universal read (who are her buddies exactly? Why aren't they trying to buoy up her slot if she's paired with obvtown) and no one stops to ask themselves what that says about what scum are doing in the game. Whereas if I'm right and G5 is scum it makes complete sense scum are trying to support the L8 scum narrative and shut down discussion of G5 since it can be reasonably assumed that after I'm dead no one scumreads G5 and he has a clean walk to endgame. Doesn't help no one engaged with my actual case on G5 and everyone engaged with reductive strawmen of my actual case.
What I'm saying is that I feel like you guys are thinking very one dimensionally about things and not really trying to understand how I feel or why I feel that way.
No, I thought the discussion over L8's reaction and whether or not it was genuine was more interesting. I'd prefer all of it to drop.
And quite frankly I have been trying to figure out how you feel and why you feel that way. That's literally part of my scum hunting process, and I think I do understand where you're coming on g5, but there are a couple impediments here. You've thrown a similar theory at me earlier, which I know is wrong, and right or wrong when someone gives a paranoid reasoning that I know is wrong I'm going to take less seriously the paranoid theory on someone else for a similar reasoning. You might be right, hell I've been right for thinner reasoning than that before. And I can't even try to figure out if you're right when you're engaged in this protracted back and forth. I find them extremely difficult to read and if he is scum you're giving him something to do that is going to just shut the town off rather than force him to do other things that will be more readable.
In post 2422, Gentleman 6 wrote:I'm not convinced that if you haven't read him as scum so far the solution is to not push him and you don't believe that either: you just don't want to lynch him and that's fine but be honest to yourself and me about it.
Okay strategy people, I now understand why there's some need for strategy in the partners.
Sorry for being a hippie everyone should choose who they want with no thought about anything but that. Not that I think there should be dictatorial control, but.
It doesn’t specifically say it here, but in the spring waltz they did have a mafia qt for the whole game. So I’m going to assume so here. Not exactly sure where I’m going with this train of thought though.
(Also just switched devices and almost logged into my main. ...this does not bode well)
You're a strong, high-contribution player widely Townread. He's a gent with almost no contributions to speak of. A G8-L7 pair potentially locks you away in a pairing with no long-term viability even though you I think do have long-term utility in general. Now you didn't accept, sure, but in theory you could have - I guess it's more specifically an invitation for a disruptive pairing and not a disruptive invitation if you frame it that way. Asking L5 is disruptive in the opposite way - it takes a slot not widely Townread, not widely regarded as very readable, regarded by more than one player as moderately compromised in general, and locks it into Dance, forcing out one of two slots regarded as potentially readable (I think?).
And just the fact that both times he does this without, like, any indication of why he asked who he asked? It's just so hard to see this as not completely calculated.
PEdit: Oh I think this is worse than precancerous, I would say things have definitely invaded through the basement membrane here.
Yeah I mean it’s definitely weird. Part of the reason why I got skeeved out by the invitation was l6 thinking I should take it and I thought that was a plan by the scumteam to pair me with the person they were planning to bus to get me out early. But after g6 hinted at who l6 is, I’m not even sure she’s scum anymore as much as I did before. And that’s even silly because I doubt people know who I am or would even consider me a threat anymore.
So yeah I’m not quite sure where I’m going with the thought.
HAS ABSO FUCKING LUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CORRECTNESS OF MY READS AND YOU AND G5 HAVE SPENT THIS WHOLE GAME ATTACKING MY READS BY CALLING MY PARTNER SCUM. NO.
I DON'T HAVE TO JUSTIFY MY READ ON L8 TO HAVE READS ON OTHER PEOPLE.
Please don’t yell at me, but I haven’t noticed anyone basically saying your reads suck because l8 is scum or at least I haven’t interpreted it that way. But if that’s happening, and please not today do it when dance starts, point out to me where that is happening and I will try to understand where you’re coming from. Make another post to me like you did in 2422, and I won’t try anymore. Maybe you don’t care or want me as a soundboard and that’s fine. I can’t promise to agree, but I will listen and try to understand, but my patience in how I’m talked to is not infinite.
Now with that said, please go take a break and do something that’s relaxing because this is not healthy not for you or the game. This is not me being judgmental. One of the reasons I took a break from mafia was because I was getting so emotionally invested in games it was making me miserable in and outside of the game. I couldn’t detach and it was awful. I’m seeing some of that here, you’re burning yourself out. Please do something you enjoy, and try to forget about this for the rest of the night.
I really do find it impossible to keep up with the pace you good people are producing.
At this stage, I will happily attend the dance with anyone who would also like not to be left by the wayside. I see Lady Luck has declined my invitation, so let us try again -
Lady 5, would you care to dance?
I wonder if this was because L2 is scum. Or maybe it was to cast doubt on L2’s alignment. That is a very interesting turn of events.
But with one gentleman left, and a chance his partnerould get left behind, why not ask his partner. Sure they might be the one to go first in the dance but at least theyve helped to insure that a townie will be unasked.
I really do find it impossible to keep up with the pace you good people are producing.
At this stage, I will happily attend the dance with anyone who would also like not to be left by the wayside. I see Lady Luck has declined my invitation, so let us try again -
Lady 5, would you care to dance?
I wonder if this was because L2 is scum. Or maybe it was to cast doubt on L2’s alignment. That is a very interesting turn of events.
But with one gentleman left, and a chance his partnerould get left behind, why not ask his partner. Sure they might be the one to go first in the dance but at least theyve helped to insure that a townie will be unasked.
If operating under the assumption that G8 and L2 are scum this means that currently L1 (town) dies, L5 (town) dies, and G1 (town dies) or possibly his partner and just one townie dies (L5) by being tied to him.
Under your proposal, it means that one lady dies and then they both die by being tied to one another.
The play just made ensures the worst possible scenario of one townie dying, with the possibility of three dying. That’s much better statistically than the situation you suggested where the two scum pair.
I don’t follow. Unless I’m misunderstanding you’re saying that potentially g8(scum) decided to go for l5(town) over l2(scum) which doesn’t make sense to me because that means he’s leaving behind his partner to die certain death in pregame rather than having a fighting chance in dance.
In post 2524, Lady 7 wrote:I THOUght out were townreading l2, and now it reads like you’re positioning to call her scum to save yourself.
I think it's human nature in this situation.
But it felt like it was being done in a weird way. How likely do you think if G8 is scum he lets his partner sit in danger of not being chosen and that makes l2 likely scum because G8 didn't choose her? In my mind, scum would want to do everything they could to make sure they get to the dance.
I read your other post to me, and I'll go back and read when the whole interaction started later.
Anyway I have just a couple minutes before I have to go back to work. Monday’s and Tuesday’s are my busiest days, and I don’t have much more time than to skim quickly to pptry to keep up. If you have a question for me, bold it so that it stands out, or if g7 is around ask him to link it in the qt. My goal for today is to go through g5 like I promised I would. Hopefully I’ll have some time tonight to give thoughts on that.
I saw lady 3 ask about my choice this morning. I’ve already answered this though. The other night I gave a preference list of g3, 7, 1, 8 in that order of who’s left. I cooled off on g3 when I started to worry about his motives and then he made it coear he wouldn’t ask me anyway. G7 was next on the list.
So I was thinking about g8, and I kinda don’t think he’s scum. I don’t understand why he’d choose l5 if he had a qt with the scum team because people made it quite clear they wanted her gone. I can’t imagine scum wanting to be tied to that sinking ship unless they’re exactly scum together and they wanted to make sure that town would be left behind.
And I also can’t see how even if g8 is scum, it means l2 is more likely scum because he didn’t choose her. It makes no sense to me that the next to last man standing would let his partner sway in the wind and almost get left out unless g is scum and they had already planned for g1 to pair up with l2 if no other player did.
Like it makes more sense to me that if g8 is scum, you suspect me because he chose me instead of others.
Am I thing about this in a crazy way? For gamestate health g8/l5 will probably have to go anyway because it’s just too disruptive, and people irritated by her posts should probably stop interacting with her because you’re just asking her to post more stuff that’s gonna make you mad.
Crap I had another thought right there and I can’t remember.
I need to try to organize my reads and thoughts a bit, but for now and when I can today I will work on g5
Played over 209 games of mafia, more town than scum, but I can’t give you a number. I absolutely hate, detest, loathe drawing scum, but I usually do okay. Went on a two-year streak of winning every scum game I played across 6 sites sometime back though. Don’t know how I’d do today. Haven’t played mafia in over a year and haven’t drawn scum in two years. I still hate it. Drawing mafia is one of the worst forms of torture in mafia, and that’s misery usually shines through.
Played over 209 games of mafia, more town than scum, but I can’t give you a number. I absolutely hate, detest, loathe drawing scum, but I usually do okay. Went on a two-year streak of winning every scum game I played across 6 sites sometime back though. Don’t know how I’d do today. Haven’t played mafia in over a year and haven’t drawn scum in two years. I still hate it. Drawing mafia is one of the worst forms of torture in mafia, and that’s misery usually shines through.
Probably more than you wanted to know, but.
Okay gotta go for realz.
That's actually... really interesting. How long have you been playing and across what sites?
I asked because I somewhat disagreed with you on your previous comment, but you obviously have the experience to be taken pretty seriously here so I'll weigh it appropriately.
Still back at work but I thought I had a meeting. It’s next Monday oops.
Anyway I started playing in late 2011 army homesite rip then came here sometime later. Not gonna mention sites though cuz I might as well mainslip depending on who might be in the game.
Why do you disagree though? I have experience and some strengths but strategy is not one of them. I’ve never played or followed a dance game before, and my brain does not conceptualize how things will work or look just from the setup. I have to see how things are playing out/read peoples theories/express my own to see it.
I think as scum I'd rather let my partner stand on her own - if she can't really convince someone to partner with her, she's likely to be a liability, and the jump on Lady 5 seemed like an attempt to avoid association with Lady 2. That's just a narrative that seems to fit pretty well as far as I'm concerned, but you bring up some good points counter to that, so I'll definitely consider that at the very least.
But lady 5 is the biggest liability here. If scum 8 partnered with l2 at least they’d have a fighting chance, you know because you never know what’s going to happen once in the dance. Some of my funniest scum wins were ones I didn’t deserve because town imploded, and there’s always that chance. I guess if I were scum 8, I’d rather dance with scum2, who was picking up some moderate town reads, and allow us to fight rather than let scum 2 leave the dance bringing us down one, dance with the biggest liability in the game that’s very likely to get lynched, andlet my last partner stick it out to the end.
I mean rip me if they are scum, but I’d be surprised if they both are.
In post 2985, Lady 4 wrote:This g8 scum = l2 scum narrative is bullshit and probably being spread by scun to get something out of their worthless g8 slot
Lady 1 was town and she was the first one to say anything about it.
I'm also saying it's at least a possibility.
Would you like to point to what posts make you think Lady 2 is specifically town?
Or even just talk about the players that are spreading this information that are likely scum?
Actually lady 6 used lady 1 being the scum who was skipped over as the reason why lady 1 should be left out. Lady 1 just then used the same theory to apply it to lady 2.
Thank you. I'm reading through G5s iso, and I've been trying to identify how I feel about the tone. But that's it. I'm not sure what it says about his alignment, I'm not even sure it's scummy, but thanks for helping me put a finger on the tone.
So my real life dance partner left my lights on all night after moving my car. FML. Might as well talk about a few things while waiting for someone to jump my car.
Anyway, I read through G5, and I don't see where he's so obvscum. I agree with G1 that he's artificially aggressive; that was the one thing that was bugging me last night when reading his iso and I couldn't quite put my finger on it. But, I'm not so sure that's scummy. (Well I know how I feel about it, my kneejerk is that it's scummy but after getting into numerous fights with town who feel fake or artificially aggressive, I know it's not necessarily actually scummy it's just how some people approach town and how I approached being town way back.)
So besides that and a few generically scummy posts here and there he doesn't really feel like scum. There's quite a few thoughts here and there that he's brought up that are things I've wondered about in a similar fashion. His concerns on L9, L8 and L3 specifically jump to mind. I thought there was something else, but it's just something that popped out at me. I know it's super dangerous to decide someone is town because hey they're looking at the game in a similar lens as you because that's just such an egotistical way to read the game that I've seen people getting burned for over and over. But I can't deny that it makes me feel good about him.
G6 - I don't really see the way he's treated you and your read on L8 in the same way you expressed it the other night. I think you're cooling on this read and feeling a little bit, and I'm sure that it feels differently to you because you're close to it and it has to do with you personally. He's been suspecting L8 since he came into the game, and it looks like to me that he was trying to get you to give a read on L8 because he suspects her, not because he's trying to discredit any of your other reads due to L8. Does that make sense? I don't know if I'm misunderstanding your point though. The only thing that I saw that could come close to discrediting your reads was when he scoffed that you didn't have more certain reads 40something pages in to the game, which on the face of it isn't that much farther away than your suspicion that not having/outing town reads is scummy. Except he doesn't call you scum for it.
I also meta'd chennisden a little bit to see how he enters the game as scum, and the scum game I looked at, which wasn't that far off, was a little bit congenial and not very game related in entrance which felt different than here. I know that's kind of dangerous because extremely small sample size, this is an alt game, and he wasn't here for long, so this probably isn't really relevant actually, but it did have a different feel.
So all in all, this is a leaning town read, wherein my caution lies in the feeling of fake aggression and posts here and there that feel like him forcing himself to post something.
One of the things that I agreed on with G5 was concerns about L8. My initial impression of L8 was that she felt wooden and was asking questions that weren't all that game related. When I went back to reread the parts I skimmed, I found that my original impressions weren't really right. She was more involved in the actual game than I thought she was and there were some posts that felt a little bit more lifelike, but overall there was a generally flat tone. G5 described her as hollow, which is pretty much in line with what my feelings were there. The next thing that bugged me about L8 is the feeling that she's pandering to G6. Like the way she's said more than once how obvtown he is, he's a paragon, etc etc. In Marketplace III there was a scum hydra in which Quilford kept posting things his hydra partner N said and calling it obvtown. Sometimes the way she does it feels like that hydra. It just feels skeevy. I don't think doing it in general means that she's definitely scum; something about the way she just doesn't feel right. And I don't think it's because they're a scum hydra. It feels like pandering. The way she also attacks G5 feels the same way - constantly getting after him for death tunneling her all game is one thing that feels like using something to amp up the attack. And I really dislike the way she gets after him for not outing town reads, which just really feels like parroting G6.
I'm really really torn on this read though. There was something I liked about her saying she was a good late game player. I have absolutely no idea why I liked it at all, so please don't ask me to unpack that. It probably felt good rhythmically at the time of reading. I liked that she also said that she's playing slower so as not to altslip, which could explain some of the wooden feeling posts. There's also some well-timed snark I like. Which yeah none of the stuff I like is really alignment indicative, but it still pushes the needle a little. I liked her considerations on G8 yesterday. I don't particularly like her thinking she's obvtown though because much of her play has not actually been obvtown. I might not still have my +10 towniness ring, but I do know a little something about being an obvtown player, so when someone makes that claim while not being quite obvtown I'm like yes Bork I see you there. (This is not a main guess just a reminder of a time Bork was scum while trying to pretend he was obvtown.)
Anyway because L8 is paired up with someone I think is really really town, I'm not inclined to really scum read her or push this because there's no way in hell that I'm going after this slot unless I'm really really sure, which might never happen knowing me. Mostly in observation mode here.
G7 explained the possible associate between G8 and L2 in way that I understand more. It still feels weird to me that they'd both be scum though. G8 not coming in at all makes me concerned.
I see there's a case on G1, which is way more fleshed out than my original feel of sometimes posting to post concern.
Anyway the tl;dr of this post is that I'm leaning town on G5, but have a couple reservations and am concerned about L8 but I'm in observation mode.
Sorry I'm wordy. I should have some time later tonight when I get home from work to consider some of the other thoughts floating around in my head. My time starts to free up more on Wednesdays though.
I did see your case. I skimmed your case, and in my rambly post that no-one probably read I said that it looked like a way more fleshed out explanation than my earlier thought that most of his posts were posting to post.
I do think the has a decent chance to flip scum though I did not get a chance to actually read your case and get your points.
And I was thinking earlier today that L2 might actually be scum regardless of G8's alignment, but I feel really guilty saying that and I don't know why. I started reading her iso a little bit ago to pin down why I felt that way, and I just came away feeling super bad for thinking she might be scum. I don't think she sounds manipulative or ATEy in her posts so I don't know why I feel bad thinking she's scum, but I do.
Oh I have a question I wanted to ask before i pass out. I almost forgot.
Why is it better to leave the policy lynch pair to the first lynch after intermission? How does that help rather than taking it out early before it can do damage if you mislynch?
Oh I ask because G1 was a bit of a conundrum for me. I liked some of his posts, but his quotestripe posts didn't felt kinda commenting to comment on things, which isn't in itself scummy because most everyone does it sometimes, but since it was mostly that one posting spree that I remember, I didn't get enough to get a feel for whether it was actually alignment indicative.
I appreciate the awareness displayed here. I have noticed “posting just to post” being commonly used, it feels like it might be a new buzzword. So deciding to write a cheap idea like that off seems towny.
I don't love this right here. I mean people know when they're just posting to post, and he has to know that some of the things he's commenting on don't really move the conversation at all. Which is okay sometimes, sometimes people just post to say I agree or because they feel compelled to comment on a particular post but it doesn't actually mean anything to the thread. It's a pretty common concern to see that and think it's suspicious.
What I don't like here is him calling it a buzzword and a cheap idea while also calling me towny for the way I went about it. I don't exactly know why it bugs me the way he phrased it. Maybe because it's downplaying, my actual valid concerns, while giving me a town treat for it?
In post 3535, Lady 2 wrote:G1 is definitely committed to the perpetual catchup post lifestyle. Like it could be genuine mediocre Townplay I guess but I agree it's a lot of nothing words. If he's scum, he may well see doubling down on giving reads (barely) based on material so far in the past that it's just disconnected from the entire game because he doesn't see another way into the game.
I guess what I'm saying is yeah my pair is a decent wagon, totally fair.
UNVOTE:
Thinking I need to reread G5 at least. Maybe also G4? I used to be very confident in G4 being Town. Now I'm questioning that a bit, more than I would have anticipated.
Lol L7 idk why you feel guilty about the thought that I might be scum but you shouldn't, not because I'm scum here but because whatever that's the game, in it, sometimes you think another player is scum, okay. I have some thoughts as to why actually, having said that, like I do think that we must have things in common as players in general so maybe it's partly that, like you feel guilty (irrationally) for scumreading a player you have things in common with as a player.
I don't necessarily mind being scumread and I definitely don't mind people scumreading G1 though I do think people saying blandly that lynching me would clarify some slots should think about where the valuable information would lie seeing me flip Town if we're the first lynch. Not necessarily discuss in great detail, but yeah. Information.
Regarding me: Maybe! It wasn't even a thought I had prior to today really, but I was thinking about the game at work and was like hmm L2?
Regarding G1: I'd prefer it if he got caught up and gave his reads and impressions then, but I've played enough games with Mastin to know that when people commit to this style they commit no matter how it affects the rest of the game. (Again, not a main guess, just a style similarity.)
Mostly because well I lack confidence in reads early on especially scum ones, and because I like watching how the game behaves when there's not a clear lead where the lynch or the scum reads are going. I think it gives scum less room to hide and be able to craft their reads according to town's reads and hide in there.
In post 3555, Lady 7 wrote:Damn so I shouldn't have asked that question? FML
Oh this was @me
No I mean it's a pair that needs to be discussed and I don't see as a pair to take to endgame, just that it's something that
can
be divisive so scum want to use it to cause division especially if Town are strengthened by an early G1-scum lynch.
That was a joke. I had asked the question about why not get rid of the one every is treating like a policy lynch early instead of after intermission. I was just being silly after your comment.
;(. There goes the last of my decent townreads. That sucks.
And I do not think I’m in a town/town pair right now. I’m not sure what to do about that.
I had a dream last night that we lynched g1 and he flipped scum, I left but didn’t see our flips, but I lynched g3 before that and he flipped town and g6 accused me of throwing the game because he said he was town. In my dream we each got a chance to pick a lynch target rather than group decide.
I’m not sure what to think that my biggest suspects are the men, but I, hoping the disappearing act l9 did was to keep the ic alive and not because she’s scum, but I worry about that one and hopefully if she’s town she’ll get their buts out here and do something.
I don’t read in night, so I don’t really have any new thoughts.
