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Post Post #1188 (isolation #200) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:06 pm

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I’m pretty certain I won’t get vigged

So let’s work on that vig PoE again
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #201) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:35 pm

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You started copying my gif thing because you think it makes you look town. Blasphemy!

You can’t help but town read me, I am projecting my towniness unconsciously onto you.
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Post Post #1202 (isolation #202) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:08 pm

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I think solving the hood is mechanically correct
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Post Post #1203 (isolation #203) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:12 pm

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Profii I wish you were townier

I have reasons to believe you’re town but nothing that is too strong out of your own posts, moreso the interactions with Aaron. So I don’t really want to fight against your lynch, even though I think that sorting the hood first is way better. I think this focus on you right now is really bad and not even correct from a mechanical PoV.

I think that a scum has to be in between OS / Looker here, having a 3 town hood is really unlikely.

Did you have a chance to read my wall? Can you tell people whether you agree with the analysis and if it’s strong, since some people are doubting that?
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #204) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:13 pm

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I do actually have some form of reluctance due to Looker’s little breakdown but I have to see whether it’s actually justified or not.
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #205) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:14 pm

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Because your solve was Egix / OS and I town read them both.

And you tr egix as well from what i recall
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Post Post #1208 (isolation #206) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:16 pm

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And given how OS presented some btsc (behind the steel curtains) reasoning for JT’s vote, your whole “webbing” thing falls apart, because he did have a reason for scum reading Egix.
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #207) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:18 pm

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I don’t think that’s an actual solve that would win town the game.

I do have a question for you though. Why were you a moment ago arguing that Looker is viable and then you associate with him in order to present some “ultimate duality” between me and os vs you and looker? Felt off.
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Post Post #1213 (isolation #208) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:21 pm

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Why do you focus on it so much? If you’re thinking i was soft claiming something, you might be right (or wrong :P )
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Post Post #1214 (isolation #209) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:22 pm

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“Idk”

Ok.
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Post Post #1215 (isolation #210) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:22 pm

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I claim Pestilence, the Apocalypse that will fall upon the scum that plotted to give me more than one night to live.
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Post Post #1217 (isolation #211) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:25 pm

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I think profii is becoming the new creature in terms of “Well, I have no scum reads, so let’s just flash wagon profii”

I do have a bias towards that tbh, I am sad for him
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #212) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:26 pm

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I mean it’s literally nothing but I don’t know why that is so important to you.

I can fake it saying that it actually had a meaning, should I do so?
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #213) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:30 pm

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I say a lot of stuff without thinking in advance, because I am an advocate of “if you’re town literally say what’s going through your mind without any pre-filters and you’ll be town read 9/10 times for the truthful progress on your reads”

If it works, it works
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Post Post #1220 (isolation #214) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:31 pm

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I prioritize getting town read over scum hunting, although it feels so fucking good to catch scum
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #215) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:35 pm

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Can’t even remember

It was some rp stuff idk
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #216) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:36 pm

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Or I was soft claiming Pestilence

One of those two

Let me recheck my role
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Post Post #1227 (isolation #217) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:42 pm

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I changed my mind on OS

And Wimpy is too stubborn to be scum. He wouldn’t park on birdy for 3 days straight because he’d become self-aware and would eventually want to move.

I am not properly evaluating Wimpy because I dislike the slot so there comes the “wouldn’t mind if lynched”

If you will sit on a policy for 2 day phases then that doesn’t really tell us as much as your flip would
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Post Post #1229 (isolation #218) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:46 pm

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Ame, what was the intent behind your questions directed at Chara about looker? What were you hoping to achieve? Talk to me about your thought process there please
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #219) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:10 pm

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In post 1232, Ame wrote:(1) What in Looker's post above are you referencing as wearing their heart on their sleeve? (2) Have you played with Looker before?

1. Chara mentioned Looker wearing her heart on her sleeve and I wanted to know what Chara meant. Similar to how I wanted to know what your role play meant.
2. Chara stated early game that they had only played with you. I had assumed Looker was a girl, but Chara referred to her as a male, which made me think I was wrong about gender, which would mean Chara knew Looker from a previous game or from PT. I was trying to catch Chara in a trap. If they answered that they did play with Looker before, then I would have brought up the discussion between you two where Chara stated only having memory of you and Al.
Wasn’t that like pretty obvious though? I just don’t like how you asked that question, think it was something obvious. I would’ve expected it much more to make you somehow agree / disagree, but you’re kind of hedgy of Looker here, and I don’t see you figuring out anything about Chara’s alignment from that, nor Looker’s, so that’s why I don’t like it.

And then, for your second point, I can tell that it’s good reasoning, I actually thought the same about you and Looker, given you were calling him a “she”. I would’ve needed confirmation from Looker as to what their pronouns would be, but then figured you’d probably use it as a blatant distancing technique anyway, so I didn’t put too much stock in that.
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Post Post #1243 (isolation #220) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:15 pm

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Ame, why are you lying about your experience?
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #221) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:24 pm

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If you knew Looker stated she was a girl, why’d you think you were wrong about gender? And, moreso, if you knew she was a girl, that shouldn’t even point to an accusation on Chara, right?
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Post Post #1253 (isolation #222) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:25 pm

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OS is my new pocket

Sorry Ame
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Post Post #1257 (isolation #223) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:32 pm

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In post 1255, Ame wrote:To be clear it was sometime after Chara responded to my response, the one where I ask them how they knew Lookers gender.
Hmmmmmm
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #224) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:39 pm

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In post 1230, Ame wrote:Points against OS:

1. TRed Looker Egix because they didn't try to pocket him.
Somni's rebuttal: he said he read Looker independently of thread
My rebuttal: He did this after the fact iirc. Furthermore, Looker did imply a hard town read of JTB in thread, so OS's reasoning is contradictory.

2. Bad set up spec, trying to clear himself for having neap and being in a neighborhood. One has no effect on the other. An it's not remotely unfeasible for scum to be neap in a neighborhood.
Somni's rebuttal: it looks like the setup was designed to frame OS?
My rebuttal: forgive me if that's not what you're saying, but if it is this is circular. You're assuming town scenario to justify him being scum. As scum, there's no reason he would have to claim. And also this just doesn't make sense because neap + neighborhood is completely null and can go either way.

3. TMId Luca read.
Somni's rebuttal: none as of yet

4. Wanted to investigate his two strongest town reads

p-edit: ok can you address these while im at it
Somni's rebuttal: mah gifs (none as of yet)
My point in 2 was that I can understand the thought process, therefore I said I town read him for it and then I suggested I thought he was wrong (which is demonstrated by my push on Looker)

I town read him for the progress, but i do disagree with it.

3. Can be an actual read that town make, although it came out fast, idk

All in all, I do see why he would suggest that and come in the thread with the intent of “all of the hood people are town” because town will gravitate towards the idea of “at least one scum in neighbourhoods” naturally. So if he was scum, then it can be a real reason for doing that.

But idk he feels like town here idk what to say, I will re-evaluate but I didn’t like your progression on Looker either.
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #225) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:40 pm

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Like just look at that

Scum him would be much more self aware and trip up

I just can’t fathom a him scum world tbh
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #226) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:40 pm

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And my town read on you was fading anyway
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Post Post #1270 (isolation #227) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:05 pm

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Ame, why was Looker a viable lynch before OS outed the hood?
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Post Post #1271 (isolation #228) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:29 pm

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Oh shit I just realised who OS is

and I would love to see his analysis on everything, am liking this player

i won't out him because that's probably not his wish though
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #229) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:20 am

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I don’t know the whole fuzz about the neap checking top town etc, you’d have to spell it out for me
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Post Post #1281 (isolation #230) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:23 am

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Zzz....
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Post Post #1291 (isolation #231) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:52 am

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Not really, it was probably some shallow read, like “I like what they’re posting”

As in being aesthetically pleasing
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Post Post #1295 (isolation #232) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:49 am

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What's your non-mechanical assessment of the Looker slot?
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #233) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:59 am

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I'm like feeling fine with the Looker lynch flipping red here, but given I am always letting people get in my head, I will probably switch to someone else, although I wished we voted there.
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #234) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:11 am

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Can you guys vote Looker or at least state why he's town here?
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #235) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:12 am

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We have me - egix - ame on looker

we need some more
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Post Post #1308 (isolation #236) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:16 am

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The town that I love and worship is being lead down a very dark pathway. We are being forced against each other, our cohesion is barely stable. We need to fight against the very dark forces that are misguiding us, and catch them scummers
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #237) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:17 am

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Why does ame feel like she's open wolfing
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Post Post #1311 (isolation #238) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:18 am

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why?
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Post Post #1313 (isolation #239) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:20 am

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what compelling evidence was presented on profii? i don't remember anyone making a case
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Post Post #1318 (isolation #240) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:24 am

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In post 1150, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 217, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 195, Egix96 wrote:
In post 184, AaronFrost wrote:I kind of agree with you on profii. Last game I played with him he felt pretty obviously town. Granted I was scum in that game so I didn't exactly have to read him too much but I could never push him either. Not quite getting the same vibes from him here as he's been mostly under the radar.
Imagine for a moment that profii is someone you've never played a game with before - what do you think of him now?
Probably more towards null territory but still a scumlean. He's the second highest poster in the game right now but I feel like he hasn't said much of value.

One thing I find interesting about this wagon is that no one has really jumped to profii's defense. Most people seem to have him as a scumread and/or are voting him right now. Is anybody townreading him right now? If so why?


I'm too lazy to count how many votes are on him atm so I'm just gonna wait until gobbles updates us with a VC before I look at the wagon.
This could indicate Frost/Profii is s/s.

Frost is making out he slightly scumreads Profii, but at the same time creating doubt over his wagon because no-one is jumping to his defence. If Profii were Town I could see Frost being more opportunistic/aggressive in his approach to Profii.
In post 1162, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 290, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 286, insomnia wrote:I think Aaron’s scum as well, he literally has no reason to have his vote on me at this point. Not only is he not accomplishing a thing by keeping it on me, but he’s also directly going against his belief that rvs is made to generate pressure and discussion, get people’s thoughts on someone and see what happens from there.

There’s virtually no attempt from aaron to even figure me out, he placed a vote for something that would look scummy and then never came back to this read.

His questions are also not figuring anyone out.
Funny that you posted this bc I was literally about to switch my vote to profii.

VOTE: profii

I wanted to switch my vote earlier but I thought profii was at like 5 votes and I was too lazy to count them myself to check.

How am I going against my belief of RVS? When I voted for you we were pretty much out of RVS at that point and several other had responded to it saying why they think you're town which is something I've been taking into consideration.
This is a reluctant vote, he's basically forced into it as he has no argument against Insomnia, he's just stated a TR's Alch and so the only one option left is Profii.
In post 1169, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 995, profii wrote:I have this thought on my mind that Luca is driving hard towards me because we recently played a mason game together so he is scared that i will see exactly what he is claiming to see in me - a different style that would automatically mean a different alignment. Methink one doth one protest too much perhaps?
I've only just noticed this post, which further increases my feeling that Profii is scum.

The fact is that Profii has been the complete opposite to how he was in the game he's referring to. If he were simply Town playing a different playstyle then he would expect me to make those comparisons, but instead he's turning it back on me - saying that I'm only making those comparisons because I'm scared he might notice differences in me!

As it were I would have expected Profii to make comparisons of his own, but the fact is that Profii hasn't tried to sort me all game. If anyone is running scared here then it's him, as he's been trying to avoid conflict from the word go.
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Post Post #1320 (isolation #241) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:26 am

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I hate when players act like they know what they are doing but don't actually read the game. I can't think why a scum partner wouldn't keep track of what their scum partner has been up to, especially when he's a point of fucking contention.
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #242) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:28 am

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why the fuck do you keep picking on me btw?

i don't want any fucking thing to deal with you
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Post Post #1322 (isolation #243) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:29 am

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I ignored your slot like you asked me to and you keep pissing me off. If you're town you're making me want to fucking throw right now and just sit on you like you did with macabre

fine, play your fucking game idc anymore

VOTE: wimpy

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Post Post #1347 (isolation #244) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:16 pm

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So are we gonna lynch actual scum now?
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #245) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:26 pm

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VOTE: Looker
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Post Post #1354 (isolation #246) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:27 pm

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I did have a game with a scum traffic analyst
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #247) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:29 pm

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In post 1058, insomnia wrote:
In post 203, Looker wrote:Okay, I think I'm here now. First, the simple approach.

@Ame / JTheophrastus Bartholomew / Luca Blight / Egix96 / profii:
Who among you is town? I don't really expect any of you to know, but it's good for managing consistency in the future. I personally have no idea.

VOTE: Luca Blight Votes keep the game moving
I think that... this vote virtually accomplishes nothing. I've notice a recurrent thing where Looker keeps on moving his vote around, all the while not having any value, really. This vote is like a semi-serious vote? I did like the last sentence though, it seemed townie.
In post 233, Looker wrote:I picked the names based off the avatars I could remember. I'm typically capable of keeping all of this stuff in my head.

VOTE: Ame Did you not like my question?

Spoiler:
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Alchemist21 (2)
- insomnia, Macabre
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- profii, Egix96, Chara
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With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Again, the vote. I guess what bothers me about it is that, he seems to want to put pressure on people (that is, by voting them) and it comes up as really demanding for an answer, but then, Looker just doesn't really care about the answer / doesn't really evaluate anything based on it. As we can see in the next post :
In post 319, Looker wrote:
In post 308, Ame wrote:In 169 you stated that you were caught up but skimmed and would begin isoing. Later in 175 you confirmed a town read on Aaron. (1) Presumably, you went through his iso at this point, yes?

Over two new pages were produced by the time of your next post, 234. Again, 175 indicates that you were caught up with the thread up to 175, or at least with Aaron up to that point. (2) What prodded you in 234/235 to go back and review pre-175? I presume you had not yet caught up with the 2 new pages because in 237 you stated that you were unaware of Alchemist's post on the previous page. (3) Is this presumption correct?

It's just curious to me that you read back through something you had already read back through and formed a solid opinion on, while there was new content available that you had not yet caught up on.
In post 309, Luca Blight wrote:I skim through the thread and then read back in more detail later - that is my usual habit.
In post 310, Luca Blight wrote:For example, the recent stuff about Frost above I haven’t yet given my attention to - I’ll read back though it when I have the time and energy to do so.
In post 315, Luca Blight wrote:I’m having a change of heart on Frost, based on his reaction to Insomnia’s pressure which comes across as appeasement. I also agree that his Insomnia SR seemed a bit faked in that he doesn’t really do anything with it and just coasts on it for a while until he is pressured into jumping off. And thirdly I agree that it looks as though he had been positioning himself to vote Profii for some time before he did so.

VOTE: Frost
@Macabre / AaronFrost / profii / Alchemist21
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  • Do you feel that either of these players is town?
UNVOTE:
He unvoted right after Ame has posted something, which the post didn't even really have anything to do with Looker's question? And, again, he falls back to an objective stance, let's the slots he votes for do their thing, and then someone else should have some form of analysis based on something that the slots say. I guess it doesn't really add up, in terms of displaying the same mentality, it's not really consistent. His follow-through to the voting for pressure aren't really telling Looker anything about their alignment.
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Post Post #1367 (isolation #248) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:36 pm

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In post 1364, Macabre wrote:If we are to believe the Chimera there is a guilty party in the hood! Fact!
That’s where we’re voting.
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #249) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:37 pm

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Friendly reminder that if Looker flips red, vig should
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #250) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:26 pm

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Yessir
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #251) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:26 pm

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All request fast night por favor mi amigos
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Post Post #1383 (isolation #252) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:37 pm

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I think you’re going down a rabbit hole
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #253) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:38 pm

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Find scum, lynch scum, rinse and repeat
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Post Post #1389 (isolation #254) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:03 pm

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In post 1387, Ame wrote:
In post 1368, insomnia wrote:Friendly reminder that if Looker flips red, vig should
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I'm tracker.
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #255) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:05 pm

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Why did you reveal thinking Looker flips red here?
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Post Post #1391 (isolation #256) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:05 pm

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I thought I wasn't reading anything and I'm leading town poorly, so why trust me? :shrug:
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Post Post #1393 (isolation #257) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:09 pm

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{Egix, profii, EVL, Macabre}
{Obvious Scum, Luca Blight}
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If I'm wrong on someone in the towcore it's macabre.
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Post Post #1396 (isolation #259) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:11 pm

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In post 1390, insomnia wrote:Why did you reveal thinking Looker flips red here?
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #260) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:13 pm

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How many PRs can a 13 player game have tbh, we already have 4 PR claims
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Post Post #1401 (isolation #261) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:15 pm

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I can't believe Ame claims tracker and then dips tbh, her not answering my questions is bad.
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You just claimed without a reason, not having any read on Looker. Are you joking? When does a PR ever do that, without suggesting killing you is a bad thing to do? Softing, etc.

You most likely just scum claimed rn and TMI'd looker flipping red.
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #263) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:20 pm

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Town never claims like that lmao

You just trusted my capabilities here without even having a read on Looker, even if you said I'm scum here?????

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Post Post #1408 (isolation #264) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:20 pm

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Profii, please hammer Looker lol
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #265) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:21 pm

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fast night fast night fast night
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Post Post #1412 (isolation #266) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:21 pm

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No but we have 4 PR claims so

and I think he's scum anyway
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #267) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:22 pm

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if looker flips red, everyone submit a fast night and speed lynch ame tomorrow lol
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #268) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:23 pm

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In post 1402, Ame wrote:Leading town poorly is a projection of your own insecurity. I never said nor thought that
In post 1326, Ame wrote:You keep making it seem like you're trying to lead us, but you've shown multiple instances of not really paying much attention
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Post Post #1417 (isolation #269) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:24 pm

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Ame out your N1
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #270) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:25 pm

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Loooooooooooool
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Post Post #1421 (isolation #271) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:25 pm

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Profii just hammer
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Post Post #1423 (isolation #272) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:26 pm

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In post 1105, insomnia wrote:
In post 223, Ame wrote:@Chara
In post 206, Chara wrote:
Looker wearing his heart on his sleeve (along with his process) is interesting. i kind of like it.
(1) What in Looker's post above are you referencing as wearing their heart on their sleeve? (2) Have you played with Looker before?
Image

This was...hmmmmmmmmmmm. This is the only time Ame /acknowledged/ the Looker slot, but I don't think the intent of this question is to help Ame sort Chara here, I feel like it serves more of a purpose of making Chara here expound on their Looker soft town read, and therefore, making them feel better about the slot. But these questions themselves don't really help Ame sort anything here. I feel like she could've seen what Chara meant by reading back and then agreeing / disagreeing, whereas, this is just asking Chara to point out the obvious. If it wasn't obvious, I feel as though it would've prompted Ame to disagree with Chara here and use it as an opportunity to sort them.

So, keep this in mind, and see how the read is progressing, and the next time Ame ever mentions Looker in their iso :
In post 744, Ame wrote:
In post 717, ObviousScum wrote:Why are Looker and ELA cleared?
Looker actually is a viable option. I'll change my back up to her. She can only be scum with you or Egix though, so the best play is all to lynch you vig Egix.

Insomnia led the lynch on Aaron. EV threw shade at a concensus town read for voting Aaron and so is pseudo confirmed to me.
Really, if you ctrl + f "Looker" in Ame's ISO, this is the only post where she gives an actual stance on him. And it's already pre-planning a bus, even though there was no previous consideration. Seems weird. Keep in mind, this is also before OS outed the mechanical aspect of the read. So this read really came out of thin air.
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Post Post #1426 (isolation #273) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:27 pm

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combine the last point of mine with luca's point and then what ame said now
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Post Post #1428 (isolation #274) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:29 pm

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my point in my scum case for Ame - Looker points how Ame is ready to lynch Looker even though there's no evaluation, nor was the hood outed

That post suggests Looker flips town (the one Luca pointed out)

Now she claims right before Looker gets lynched thinking he flips red
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Post Post #1429 (isolation #275) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:29 pm

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good night peeps, fast nights etc etc
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Post Post #1431 (isolation #276) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:33 pm

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Ame, just be honest...
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Post Post #1434 (isolation #277) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:40 pm

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you didn't even out your n1 yet, it seems to me that you value more staying alive than actually helping town here
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #278) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:41 pm

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Ame, you checked Chara right, it would make sense given your PoV and all
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #279) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:43 pm

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In post 1436, insomnia wrote:Ame, you checked Chara right, it would make sense given your PoV and all
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #280) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:47 pm

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AMEEEEEEEE DID YOU CHECK CHARA OR NOT?
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #281) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:49 pm

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whoooooooo did youuuuuuuuu cheeeeeeeeeeck
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Lmfaoooooooo
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I'm wheezing irl lmaooooo
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #284) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:55 pm

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Insomnia : So Ame who'd you check

Ame : Image

Insomnia : So who'd you check

Ame :

Insomnia : so who'd you check

Ame :
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who.is.your.night.one.
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Post Post #1452 (isolation #286) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:30 pm

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In post 1450, Ame wrote:My N1 will be apparent with flips one way or the other.
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #287) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:47 pm

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In post 1361, Egix96 wrote:
In post 1356, Macabre wrote:The crimes of the hedgehog are now more apparent than ever, and the method of their execution will be the rope. Death!

VOTE: ObviousScum
You don't trust insom's read on him?
this?
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #288) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:56 pm

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In post 1456, Ame wrote:I don't know who the last scum would be though since Mac is claiming vig
where'd he claim vig?
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Post Post #1464 (isolation #289) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:14 am

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@Wimpy

Zzz...

Mac, you know who to shoot bud, your secret admirer ;)
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Post Post #1465 (isolation #290) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:15 am

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Looker, TMI means too much information. It speaks about the scum mentality, they are informed, town are uninformed.
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #291) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:17 am

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What do you mean
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Post Post #1468 (isolation #292) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:17 am

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TMI = too much information

Scum have too much information, they are informed.
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Post Post #1471 (isolation #293) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:19 am

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but which post were you referencing with the tmi thing?
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Post Post #1472 (isolation #294) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:19 am

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you can do the flip for us and I promise we'll go to sleep lol
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Post Post #1474 (isolation #295) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:23 am

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I can give you an example :

Your scum hunting (not really scum hunting cuz you have to pretend you're scum hunting) was made more under the assumption that "I will check this out for posterity at some point" which says "I don't need this right now, but it might turn out to be useful later" and, therefore, you aren't hunting, you're just laying the foundation for your traps and future accusations based on it. So you know the roles of everyone.

Your constant pressure votes on people and then revoting were really fake to me, because, on the one hand, you're saying "I have reasons for voting this and I'm gonna catch someone off this" and then you just unvote for no reason. That tells me you had TMI on that person, wanted to act as if you were on to something, but you switching your vote for nothing says "I didn't actually have anything for voting them"

It was a really objective stance and no scum hunting, really.

Hope you can take something out of that.
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Post Post #1475 (isolation #296) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:23 am

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VOTE: Ame

Let's finish this with a double lynch on the same day kek
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Post Post #1477 (isolation #297) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:34 am

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No, not really. My point about you and Looker was your disingenuous progression on Looker, the reveal before Looker's flip which is literal TMI.

The question part might be conf bias, but only after I start explaining you wanting Chara to develop her town read on Looker. The part where I say this:
In post 1423, insomnia wrote:This is the only time Ame /acknowledged/ the Looker slot, but I don't think the intent of this question is to help Ame sort Chara here
And that is still proving that you don't want to sort neither of them. That's more of an objective thing, I agree, the following with me saying you wanted chara to develop her town read on Looker was confbias (even though I think I am right on that as well). But that quote still proves you didn't have any intention of sorting any of them.

I did not say you didn't mention him and that's it, I said the only time you HAD A STANCE on him was in that question thing (and in there you didn't have any intent of sorting him nor chara) and then you say he's scum before the reveal without having a previous stance on him. You did mention him but had no stance on him in the other posts.
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Post Post #1478 (isolation #298) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:36 am

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My point was you lacked that intent to sort them, the interaction was pointless. Asking to point out the obvious was weird there. It was the lack of town agenda.
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Post Post #1479 (isolation #299) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:37 am

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I started shifting my town read ever since you stopped pushing your stuff and followed me and then with that push on Chara.

Another thing I was suspicious of was you interpreting Chara's death, I didn't even notice that stuff. It spoke as though you wanted to distract people off something. idk
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Post Post #1481 (isolation #300) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:37 am

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I interpreted that as scum that killed Chara for that exact reasoning and using it to appear townie.
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #301) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:39 am

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In post 1480, Ame wrote:I mean the ctrl + F thing. You said it was my only time mentioning looker like that's a scum tell. It's the same result regardless of who you ctrl + F.

As for the above, I'm town baka.
I meant that you had no solid stance on Looker other than that. Of course you mentioned him throughout your iso and stuff, but it wasn't imposing a stance on him.
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Post Post #1483 (isolation #302) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:41 am

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You suggesting Looker is viable without having any question directed towards him / any previous attempt at sorting him was weird.
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Post Post #1484 (isolation #303) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:42 am

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In post 1480, Ame wrote:As for the above, I'm town baka
who's your n1
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Post Post #1486 (isolation #304) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:45 am

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wait so i'm confused are you scum or not
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Post Post #1487 (isolation #305) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:45 am

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I do have trust issues so like i doubt this is ever gonna happen unless we hydra or something
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Post Post #1490 (isolation #306) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:48 am

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No, misreading is not worth suspecting for.
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Post Post #1492 (isolation #307) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:51 am

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In post 1488, Ame wrote:Same difference. No one had a solid stance.
You had a moment to develop some read on her early one with that post I quoted, but you used it for nothing.

My point was, YOU DID NOT SORT HIM WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE. You had chances to take a stance / disagree / agree with him or Chara and you didn't want to.
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #308) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:51 am

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In post 1491, Looker wrote:I don't think I could TMI if I thought I was on the other team
hold on, i don't get it, did you legit think you were town and didn't know who your scum partner was?
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #309) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:54 am

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In post 1495, Ame wrote:
In post 1490, insomnia wrote:No, misreading is not worth suspecting for.
That's when you turned on me, when I made my list and put her as unlikely town.

@Wimpy, apologies, I haven't checked back to verify
I think you're like misinterpreting a whole lot of my thoughts and stances or I'm really bad at explaining them. I don't even know what you're talking about.
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Post Post #1500 (isolation #310) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:58 am

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I started shifting on you ever since Day 1, your push on chara rustled my jimmies then a lot of other stuff came in that I didn't like

To Looker : Well, I guess that townhunting this game was better to catch you. I had a solid town core and you just stood out.
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Post Post #1501 (isolation #311) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:58 am

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I was probably gonna lynch you regardless, because my town core was solid
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Post Post #1504 (isolation #312) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:08 am

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Nah, it was re-evaluation.
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Post Post #1505 (isolation #313) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:09 am

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In post 1502, Looker wrote:Youll still make it to endgame anyway
what do you mean
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #314) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:22 am

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oh, well then

Me and Looker are totally not team mates, ha ha...ha.

Spoiler: For Looker only
get your ass in the PT right now ffs
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Post Post #1517 (isolation #315) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:23 am

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A M E

W H O I S Y O U R N I G H T O N E
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #316) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:29 am

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petition to give ame the UT "N1" or "WOATracker"
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Post Post #1530 (isolation #317) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:11 am

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Check Wimpy
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #318) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:14 am

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Appreciate the VCs, soldier!
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Post Post #1536 (isolation #319) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:15 am

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I'm still not dying, I have a bp vest
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Post Post #1542 (isolation #320) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:53 am

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No, Wimpy, you’ll have to live with the embarrassment.

You aren’t getting vig’d.

Shoot Ame.
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Post Post #1547 (isolation #321) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:19 am

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Ame...Can I ask you something?

I have been meaning to ask you this for a long time now, but I only found the guts to do it now...

Spoiler:
who’s your n1?
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #322) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:28 am

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Ame, you will die a honorable death, I ensure this to be the case.
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Post Post #1555 (isolation #323) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:31 am

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#justiceforalch
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Post Post #1556 (isolation #324) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:32 am

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Leave me alive I’ll catch the third as well.

Coming atcho necks wolves. Beware.

Your move.
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #325) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:32 am

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Check profii voters that weren’t Looker voters

Brute solve it
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Post Post #1563 (isolation #326) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:13 pm

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Sit tight
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Post Post #1564 (isolation #327) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:13 pm

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Profii, who’s last?
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #328) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:23 pm

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Fast night everyone

Obligatory reminder post
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #329) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:24 pm

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Ame please don’t nk me

I got you at universal town read, I’ll hammer the nail in the coffin as well.
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Post Post #1578 (isolation #330) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:45 am

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Meh 2/3 still fine
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Post Post #1579 (isolation #331) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:07 am

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VOTE: Wimpy
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Post Post #1591 (isolation #332) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:58 am

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tons?
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Post Post #1595 (isolation #333) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:18 am

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Cuz it ends on wimpy
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Post Post #1597 (isolation #334) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:20 am

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nah actually i don't think it does but he's still in poe regardless unless you like checked him and he's good which is probably what i should be getting but whatever
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Post Post #1598 (isolation #335) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:21 am

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Out your mech clear so i can like re-assess already por favor amigo
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Post Post #1600 (isolation #336) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:22 am

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wimpy you are like me but from the past
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Post Post #1601 (isolation #337) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:22 am

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gonna call you my child from now on, or baby inso or baby somni or somni junior or somni jr
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #338) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:31 am

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I mean why are you even holding me up to such standards, what am I, a fucking paragon? I am rusty, sorry I can't lynch 3 scum in a row.

Well actually the day isn't over yet but still.

In the past I didn't even catch scum I'd just tunnel on town all dayphases just like you. Well I'd actually be looking for stuff back then.

Having one slot purposefully playing to a shtick doesn't interfere with your scum reads. Focus elsewhere and PoE him, that's all you gotta do. If you have reasons to believe everyone else is town, only then can you assert that someone's scum. Saying he impedes you from solving is laughable.
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Post Post #1615 (isolation #339) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:33 am

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there's no way wimpy is persivul
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Post Post #1651 (isolation #340) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:14 am

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Out your mech clear on Wimpy so we can lynch ELA whatever
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Post Post #1652 (isolation #341) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:16 am

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VOTE: ELA
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Post Post #1654 (isolation #342) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:16 am

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Ela > Mac > Profii
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Post Post #1657 (isolation #343) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:19 am

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Vig is gonna get PoE’d anyway and it’s an even night, he gets to shoot tonight no matter what

If your intention is to hide your mech clear, hide it properly :P
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Post Post #1658 (isolation #344) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:22 am

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Wow I haven’t had a game with a competent town in a while, grats town
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Post Post #1721 (isolation #345) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:05 am

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Hopefully this is a hat-trick for town.
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Post Post #1723 (isolation #346) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:48 am

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Why do you want to be specifically killed by vig but not lynched?
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #347) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:21 am

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You truly are somni junior :3
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #348) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:55 am

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With a few scum games played, I realised something. Bear with me as this might be totally subjective, but, I have a theory on this specific game.

Aaron is a self-aware scum. Why would he be so active and make overconfident reads, posing as a confident town player if he was a scum?

Most scum hate that they are tied to their team mates. The thought of being associated post-flip to one of your scum buds can be bring about heavy pressure on certain people.

The laid-back relaxed mentality behind Aaron's posting can be really indicative as to what his team mates profile might be. Here's my theory :

I think if the scum team is exactly Looker - Ela - Aaron , then that would justify Aaron's slightly relieved and careless approach. If he has lurker team mates, new players, average scum players, then he wouldn't need to worry about being associated with them or the thought of losing being a heavy burden to his heart, as if he let his team down / pushed back the pro players on the team.

So yeah, it would make sense ELA is scum here, from like a behavioural analysis (this is the first time i'm ever doing this so be easy on me)
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Post Post #1746 (isolation #349) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:02 am

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I take that as a VT claim. Fire ahead, profii.
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Post Post #1749 (isolation #350) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:06 am

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Update your ISOs, no more sleepy boi, it is now rogue.
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #351) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:09 am

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I see you're a connoisseur.
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Post Post #1753 (isolation #352) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:14 am

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It's a good avatar, we kind of have the same coat.
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Post Post #1755 (isolation #353) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:24 am

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I want to say it's gg but I still feel uneasy about something.

But it's probably just gg.
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