Mini Normal 2128: Normal Mafia - Game Over!

[bob3141]

My roll has NOTHING to do with my interactions with my neighborhood.

Bambi is in a different neighborhood than me.

I'm gonna target uhhh...drew tonight.

hypothetically my role is useless bc everyone else claimed VT but whatever. thats what im gonna do.

your claimed role is disloyal rolestopper.

We have two roles that it can stop. they were the twin mason/neighbourizers

If you targted the same player as one of the masons and that player was scum. The masons action woudl fail. If town the neighbourhood increases, creating a clear

Thus its an indirect cop. That is enabled by the two masons


were you in allo neighbourhood. And what was your read on teh players in that hood?

Yes but he died the night i was neighborized

trollie when did you figure out that allo was a mason?

when bb claimed mason.

If you thought allo was a mason day one then why did you visit him night one. You claim to be a disloyal rolestopper. So why then would you visit someone you thought was sure town?

[bob3141]

My early game strategy was to only target town. That way later in the game we could do exactly what we did and figure out via interactions whether we can confirm anyone's alignment.

It made no sense to me to target scum knowing that if I did i would prevent a cop or vig from successfully targeting scum.

but why target someone that you thought was a mason.

We had a rolestopper flipped. we had two masons claims

What pr did you think was left?

What did you think your role meant?

[bob3141]

why did you think there would be cop or a vig. Didnt you think you were the last town pr if you were town?

[bob3141]

So wouldn’t that make Bambi scum?

I believe so.

Am I understanding that right?

thats not how disloyal works

disloyal means the ability only works on the oppositie alignment. If trollie is town then bambi is confirmed town.
And even if trollie is scum which i doubt. Bambi is prob still town.




Its just odd that trollie would visit allo. Wouldnt be the first time some misunderstood their role though. as the mason being neighbourizers wasnt known yet so is sort of understandable

[bob3141]

i mean in this setup.


Im assuming then you targeted allo to holster your nigth action rather than doign no night action. Which i feel is best thing to do night 1

[bob3141]

gera who do you think are scum?

[bob3141]

1 night is a accident, 2 is the pattern.

Its just that evens are better for scum. And scum choose to no kill so lynch today is actualy in their interest.

While nolynch atleast forces scum to remove one player.

Bob I didn't comment on this yesterday because obviously I didn't want to give scum the diea if they were dumb, but why would you baaically go "scum have a huge advantage in evens" and let them stall it?

Scum didn't kill last night and we don't know if they even will. Is this gonna end in a draw? Probably not. Atleast, it would be stupid to throw in the towel.

We're at an impasse. We're no longer in Mislynch and lose, but instead... Lynch at all or forfeit? I dontknow if that has an acronym.

Ive been in town game before where we lost when scum moved it to evens on purpose. And clearly since we have no role that could of stopped the scum. Scum must of done it deliberately. And teh key bit no one was talking which has left me tired of this game. The fact im the second highest poster and highest alive shows this game is lurkfest. all alignments im all ways round the middle

[bob3141]

Fact scum have not nightkilled again clear shows the game is highly balanced with no clear kill for them.

I would look into series of scum teams ( not what i think is likely but to work out what teams might have no killed)

first trollie and bambi

mislynch opportunities - germa, drew, bob
players voting for one of scum - germa, mala

no brainer kill mala.

so trollie bambi unlikley

[bob3141]

now would any team including trollie not night kill mala.

drew, trollie

mislynch chances - bob, germa
players that could vote scum - bob, mala, germa , bambi

Again why would trollie drew not night kill.

killing moves the game to odds. which means i vote germa and scum hammer.
scum only needs bambi and germa vote to mislynch me.

Mala town reads me so wouldnt hurt nk him.


trollie drew I feel unlikely again

[bob3141]

Any team where trollie is town mean bambi is town
And i am town

so only teams with trollie town are ( they varry in likelyhood that i will look into after eliminations)

mala,drew
drew germa
mala germa

[bob3141]

So so far only 5 teams left

mala,drew
drew germa
mala germa

trollie, mala
trollie, germa

[bob3141]

That was teh mav wagon

iDanyboy, bob3141, geraintm, Allomancer, TheTrollie

with drew also claiming to hammer.


take away flipped players

, bob3141, geraintm, , TheTrollie
drew.

i know im town and if anyone thinks im scum then to quite frank you have abysmal reads.

that leaves ger, trollie and drew
Before this mav was failing. Quite clear trying to make associations harder. Thus its unlikely scum wouldnt bus.

[bob3141]

drew germa
trollie, germa

using that read teams left are above

[bob3141]

I have no more info than yesterday. I didnt want to lynch then. I dont want to lynch today, but tomorrow when we have more info if a lynch happens then I can make a better guess.
It is not productive to make guesses about scum teams today, if it was I would have done so yesterday

Then give your read on players

Do you scum or town read me
Do you scum read or town read trollie
do you scum read or town read bambi
do you scum read or town read mala
do you scum read or town read drew

[bob3141]

i was wrong im not second poster im the top poster.

[bob3141]

looks like mala did offer to hammer mav. but was pushign for germa lynch instead.

still find it unlikely a scum mala wouldnt nk anyone. As a town germa would mean a sure mislynch in lylo. And wiith germa/mala team why wouldnt they kill bambi. as they would be in lylo with bob, drew and trollie. All of which they could of got to vote for each other

mala do you still scum read germa?


my gut says we can rule out germa and mala being s/s

[bob3141]

also to save me looking what are the 2 neighbourhoods

As if bambi is town then one in his is prob scum.

when i was neighboured with farkam i had no interest in killing him as scum. As i had him pocketed

[bob3141]

Are the 2 two neighbourhoods

trollie, drew and malla

with bambi in seperate one. Is that right?

[bob3141]

what happens if we no lynch again and mafia dont night kill

[bob3141]

should we no lynch again and force scum to narrow things down.

Scum are you realy to afraid to kill anyone?

a draw is prety much stil a loss for you. As for town we dont lose but you dont win. You would be the only scum team to be to afraid to actualy try and win.

[bob3141]

gera why would you be happy with a draw. Do you think you cant win if you try?

What do you think of the chances of scum and town to win?

[bob3141]

drew so why have you gone from germa to trollie.

You made allot of posts about germa and after one of trollies posts. all of sudeen your pushing there

[bob3141]

will look at teh game tommorrow when i have time

[bob3141]

trollie how would you describe your actions during day one. What did you want at the end of day one?

go into as much detail as you can. What were you thoughts from the 3rd of april to the deadline on the 5th of april

[bob3141]

bob im drunk right now so mauybe thats it but wtf r u talking about

explain your thought process at the end of day one.

I want you to tell us what you thought of your own play in those last few days as deadlien approached

[bob3141]

I don't recall my thought process at the end of day 1 other than I thought (think, maybe?) I caught scum in the mala slot

what did you think of the espresso slot?

what did you think of my slot?

[bob3141]

trollie since you want to work with germa in voting drew.

What can you say has lead you to the conclusion that germa is town?

[bob3141]

Also to save me looking for it. Can someone post what the 2 neghbourhoods are including all dead members

[bob3141]

That was the mav wagon

mavsfan41 (5) - iDanyboy, bob3141, geraintm, Allomancer, TheTrollie

So that was t,t,germa, t, trollie

I know im town and I cant see how anyone could come to the conclusion that im scum. If they do then they would have to hang there heads in shame and embarrassment.

with drew claiming intent but it was hammered by trollie first.


No way was mav not bussed by atleast one scum player. No way scum players like that or makes obvous fake claim if scum arnt already bussing.

Last time ive seen a claim like mavs it was by flav. Where he intentionally made mistake in his final roleclaim to ensure his lynch. Resulting in him winning as the alive town players in lylo couldnt see the obvous busser.

[bob3141]

Mala and germa can you tell us what you both think of a trollie lynch today.

Esp you germa. What has chnaged your mind from the day that dannyi was lynched. In which you wanted trollie. He is at l-2 now. So why do you no longer want to lynch him?

[bob3141]

one thing i think can all rule out is a

mala, germa scum team

If they were both scum and trollie, drew and bambi were town.

Then they would have likely taken the chance to win today.

Also germa and me . Is never s/s

as we were clearly on at the same time. I know im town but thats for anyone else who doesnt have my poe

[bob3141]

if you and germa scum read drew. Why are you not both voting him?

[bob3141]

im in no rush we have 6 days left and will still at mylo.

You all made me top poster

Nothign stopping mala from moving to l-1. if its germa and some one else i dont get the blame

[bob3141]

literally think about the fact that i'm sittin pretty at l-2 when it takes 4 to lynch and there are 2 scum left in the game.

Mala is the only one (i think?) other than the two on me who have expressed any interest in voting me

why would i be sitting at L-2 still if scum isnt on my wagon?

it either makes you scum or one of drew/bambi scum.

It does eliminate a germa/mala scum team.

As for you to be scum one of them must be town.
And if you were town they would have flash hammered you

[bob3141]

i woudl rather a germa lynch today.

If im rigth on him being scum. Then it clears mala.

leaving the game a 1v1 between you and drew

[bob3141]

why do u not believe my claim outright? id like to know so I can clear that up

its in grey area.

town already has allot of power

mason/neighbourizer * 2
simple rolestopper

rolestopper acts as doc for all vt. But also acts as vannila cop in conjuction with the two masons. Thus it weakens and strengths it at the same time


you claimed role a disloyal rolestopper. with those know roles is a straight cop.

what im having trouble with is placing how much that the in effect cop is weakened by the fact it's dependant on the masons actions. Depending on that it either fits or it doesnt.

And the claim combined with your game actions is believable.

[bob3141]

also, if i am town, so is bambi, so it makes either me scum or drew scum according to ur logic

yep why a scum germa results in 1v1 between you and drew.

If mala was scum. then they would of hammered you.


If you are town then that makes bambi town.

[bob3141]

why im having trouble placing your role.

its like the disloyal fruit vendor. It acts like a one shot cop but only if the can trick the scum.

[bob3141]

can we all just vote germa

[bob3141]

at those what want trollie who do you think his partner is?

at those who want drew who do you his partner is?

[bob3141]

why is trollie the only person you have a read on.

Even your bambi read is dependant on trollie.

my gut is say if teh team was germa/trollie scum team germa would of bussed him.

Most likely germa waiting for another vote to hammer.



no way town doesnt have more reads. If you do germa then tell us your reads on each player

[bob3141]

I have zero extra info to base my reads on. I found trollie claim believable. I said at the time if it is fake, then they've got me.

Since the claim, trollie has been consistent and I find their posts believable. Their actions and votes are consistent. That is why I read them as town. It is people who are inconsistent or have reads that need to be twisted to get there that I don't like.

so your saying after 6 days you have no reads. serously

[bob3141]

be ab bad idea to rush any lynch. Still 3 days to go and were still at mylo

worse case is that we have another 12 days to choose who to lynch.

unless scum are not confident in their ability to play as scum. Then we will prob see a night kill and have lylo instead mylo


As scum would have to be real silly to make no night kill 3 times in row. They will be labled the scum that were to scared to kill.

[bob3141]

And scum if you dont night kill i will mkae the next day feel like its realy long.

[bob3141]

@bob3141: again, with the black and white on Bambi. I’m unsure of Bambi like I’m unsure on Allomancer and Geraintm. I feel as though they could all be considered to be low posting/lurking right now. And have done little since day 2.

I think day 2 with the quick lynch of Titus wasn’t informative of much but reading it over, your vote and how the response to Titus flipping VT is soooo scummy. 780 is the vote with 781 as a non-official vote count. Your 826 the first half reeks of scum. To pin blame on iDanyboy for the hammer when you could’ve done your part to make the lynch harder by unvoting. To be very clear, what I’m saying is that you’re trying to have it both ways by putting Titus at L-1 and then to lash out at the hammer vote. To take issue with iDanyboy’s hammer when there hadn’t been developments in the game and no one was going to budge from their vote seemed an extra shot. To drive this point further, Malakittens was upset too, but their reason was cause they wanted to chime in. Your reason was for Titus to respond. That post seems you to be trying to wash your hands when the flip is revealed as town.

At some point in the game I feel as though you’ve accused almost everyone of scum or at least thrown shade their way. This blind accusations throughout the game and especially day 3 tells me you’ve already got a scum scenario for day 4.

You had two separate wagons on you in day 1 with people thinking you’re scum. Your wagon at the end of the day was 3: BBmola (town) and Morning Tweet (town). Cat Scratch Fever was also on your wagon. You might only have avoided a lynch cause your scum buddies didn’t want to vote you. Who knows what would’ve happened day 2 without the whole Titus thing, but Titus being mislynched quickly prob saved you from a lynch. Now day 3, you’ve decided you need to act quickly before another wagon begins on you that you fear you’re not going to wriggle out of and you’re unlikely to get another player fake-claiming.

what do all the players think of these three posts. as in what do you think they mean

[bob3141]

@Malakittens: you’ve voted geraintm today for the lack of content and some less than enthusiastic posts today. Looking over day 3 posts, Allomancer could be classified similarly. Thoughts? You reading Allomancer in the same way as Geraintm?

Why do you want players pushing allomancer over germatin?

And just to be clear i realy do not liek your push all game on allomancer. Its one of the biggest reasons fow why i scum read you?

For 888: I’m not pushing Allomancer over geraintm. What I’m actually asking is why there are two players with similar posting patterns in regard to day 3 but why Malakittens finds Geraintm scummy and not Allomancer (or find Allomancer town and Geraintm not). This question would have been asked had Malakittens voted Allomancer and not Geraintm but only I would ask about thoughts of Geraintm.

With regards to the post of yours I’ve quoted above, I don’t think I’ve actually been pushing Allomancer. Ive has him on my radar, but there were better targets. So I actually ISO’ed myself and did a ctrl+F on “Allomancer” and I haven’t pushed him at all. The biggest push I had was possibly theorizing that if scum had been on the day 1 wagon on YOU, it likely would’ve been either Paragon (who was replaced by Titus) and Allomancer. That’s it.

This is now another misleadingly framed post (the first being the timeline argument with the subsequent “this clears me”). Now that you’ve thrown shade at me for a blatantly false premise and have thrown shade at others in your misleading post about the NK order, this pings me as you throwing anything at the wall and see what sticks with LYLO so close to you and your scum buddies.

[bob3141]

"Ive has him on my radar, but there were better targets."

a line from mavs post in 898.

From that i dont know why it was so hard to lynch him.

it was about allomancer. So scum mav felt soem at that stage was better target.


We know mav was trying to line up me and danyi. But was one of his other pushs before then one of those targets

[bob3141]

"In fact, I was even called out by Cat Scratch Fever of not pushing enough"

from post 900.

Another telling bit of info. Will need to look at cat vs mav from that period. to see if its tvs or svs

[bob3141]

lol mav you really like the word radar

[bob3141]

anyone voting drew should unvote.

let me ask anyone scum reading drew or malla. What do you think of mavs progression on allomancer and his questions regarding that slot.



To me it looks liek someone who doesnt know allomancer is a mason but is digging. The next night allo dies. The very nigth after mav is digging as to why mala town reads allomancer and yet scum reads germa.

He would of known both masons were neighbourizers.


If it was a plant, then well played mav. But to me it prety clear to me that although mav thought he knew who the mason was. He didnt know 100% for sure.


This to me makes me think mala and drew are sure town

[bob3141]

so let leaves me with trollie, germa and bambi

now the question is was my entire wagon all scum. or was it 2 scum max


It was eitehr all scum or the scum team is trollie with one of bambi/germa

[bob3141]

its 3 days and 3 nights


we have had two nights with no kill and one day with no lynch

no lynching

puts us at 2 and 2

with one day and one night left

[bob3141]

Not wanting to self hammer =/= caring anymore.

I just want you people to do something, FFS.

It's clear Trollie is the one here. And if I'm wrong, then so be it. But can we at least get it fucking over with?

Gosh, this game is beyond irritating now.

ok if its trollie who out of germa and bambi is the last scum?


and you saying this is the last days is major misrep of the game state.


cake said 3 days and 3 nights without kill or 6 phases without a kill.

We dont hit 6 until night 7.



And it would be humiliating for scum to no kill for a third time in row. What scum team ever takes a draw, over any chance at winning

[bob3141]

so we have drew at l-1

now if drew is town then that confirms my belief that mala is town.

So if drew is scum then my current read on mala means that either drew is town or one of (trollie, bambi and germa) is bussing

[bob3141]

AND, that the D1-3 gameplay that I detailed in my post yesterday was all some elaborate ploy between the Bambi and Trollie scum team from the start of this game?

If you think that, i have to say, you should think we deserve this win. Because that is some truly insane scum strategy.

So what your saying is that your scum with bambi

[bob3141]

trollie if you thought drew was scum why did you not vote drew when you offered intent day 4

[bob3141]

if drew is town, then the scum team is trollie and bambi and they won the game ages ago. they beat me fair and square, im not lynching for the rest of the game in that pair.
or if drew is town and trollies is scum and bambi is town, then scum have already won when mala comes online and votes.

at some point you all need to recognise that you need to play the game as if drew is scum.

Care to explain your entire read on trollie/bambi

[bob3141]

bambi why did you switch your vote from trollie to drew back to danny day 4

[bob3141]

I want to see a Mala post in thread before I move this game forward. I want people to see they have checked in since drew got to 2 votes

Sorry i been busy and i don’t even know what to post at this point

I made myself clear to why I want who I want to flip and why.

Trollie iMO helps me sort Bambi.
I already like Bob as a town read.

So idk what you want me to post that’s any different than what i posted before

sou want to vote me to find out bambi's alignment...

but voting me ends the game

so that isn't great logic

Thats a scummy counter agruement.

To the extent its no argument


if you are scum then bambi is scum.


If you were town wouldnt you have tried to come up with a reason as to why yur town. All you ever do is say no it ends teh game.


give us posts as to why your town as your claimed role is actualy more likley to be a scum role.

[bob3141]

You just happen claim to get a clear on player after a no Nk. convenient

Why did you not claim during the day danny was lynched. A day you didnt care who you got.

[bob3141]

Im at the point i will be happy to just use gamblers flasy on this and vote trollie.

1/4 odds cat slot was scum and ive already hit 1/4 once


With the little content bambi has produced i doubt i will vote with him. If he is town i would rather lose and let sucm win.

[bob3141]

ive made my mind up bambi is cum

[bob3141]

scum

[bob3141]

he has no progression from his hard trollie scum read to town readign him and scum reading drew

[bob3141]

he not once has tried to sort trollies claim. as soon as it was said he swollowed without a second through and even gave helpful comments. If bambi satnce was geuine there would of been allot more push back

[bob3141]

i cant see bambi being scum with germa

[bob3141]

trollie before i vote for you. Explain in detail who you think drews partner is

[bob3141]

@mala do not hammer drew.

If you want a lynch today then ill vote bambi or trollie as it stands.

[bob3141]

disloyal rolestoper is actual far to much town power.


20% chance of being neighbourized night one. At this point he becomes a full cop.

even if both neighbourz get killed.

thats another 20%

if they lynchs and nk happen outside

thats 11 at end of day 2. 2 masons and 2 neighbours. In this case masons have 30% of neighbourizing the cop.

so thats by start of day three, the maosns could do follow the cop. And by day 5. get 2 inno. making the game auto


----

Added to fact current town power

2 masons / 2 neighbourizers
1 simple rolestopper

now the simple weakens reolstopper but also makes him a vannila cop. Inside a masonary that strong.

so thats 2 town roles

2 neighbourizers
1 rolestopper

neighbourizer are both a weak role. so lets say each is 0.5
and simple rolestopper is 0.75

thats town power of 3.75 roles

[bob3141]

now we know of one shot jailerkeeper so thats 0.25 pr for scum. But we also know its multitasking

even ignoring the multi

thats

3.75 v 0.25


a cop is 1.5. so even with the gatings which are actualy quite weak.

[bob3141]

bob

come on

20% of someone being neighborized, but only 20% chance i target them. that means 4% of a cop result PLUS youd have to piece it together. its not like the next day I KNOW if it worked

ur just wrong

serously is that teh best you can come up with.

Odds stack

by day 2 you have 40% of turning into a full cop.

A FULL COP.

The odds of you still get a result to use night one and night 2 is.

17% night 1 , 20% night.


So by day 3 you have 33% chance of eitehr havign guilty or inno. 35% chance of being neigbourized.


so if neigbhourized by day 3. you have potential to get 3.5 results.

to be balanced you would need more gating. As the swing would be massive


And then scum woudl need pr enogh to make it worthless. which weakens all roles

[bob3141]

IM NOT A COP BOB

jesus

Then what do you beleive your role in this game was.?

Do you think town are given roles with no use.

[bob3141]

And even if we look at it at the area of the rolestopper. You have one function that rolestopper does other than cop.

[bob3141]

only use would be to stop masons neighbourizing sscum.

Which strengthens the masons so that still strong town pr.

when


Even ignoring the potential cop element. alike with how disloyal fruitvendors have been put in games before


It still leaves town stacked

[bob3141]

bambi in detail tell us why you flipped from trollie hard scum read to town read. After his claim

[bob3141]

trollie can you quote all of your crumbs

[bob3141]

And again explain in detail who you think the second scum is.

[bob3141]

Wrong trollie.

you have a 1/12 chance of targeting the player night 1 that bbmola visited
This happens twice

as its not 1/12 you targeting but 1/12 the mason targeting the player you choose

Your action has nothing to do with it. AS you are fixed variable.


And if one of the masons claimed day one you have amazing odds. with just a little bit of thought


You have failed to explain how you fit in the game.

Plus your canvasing for mala vote as if he is town. And your talking to me as if im town.


SO who is teh last scum and why?
And if germa is scum why are you so happy voting with him?

[bob3141]

and to answer ur question - idk who drews scum partner is - i just know he is scum

You hve not come up with second scum read in two game days?

[bob3141]

also trollie explain mav roleclaim if cat was scum?

[bob3141]

And trollie you missing teh fact were not comparing you to stright cop.

which would be worth 1.5 points.

you have the potential to get inno/guilites and stop mason neighbourizing scum.

2 functiosn from the same role and same action


even it being weak role would tipp teh game to beign too town sided

[bob3141]

@bob3141: I’m extremely confused by your post 297. Could you please clarify exactly what you’re saying? Specifically between your version of scum having to commit instead of sitting in the middle (post 260 for that language) vs Paragon’s more common definition of fence-sitting? My understanding of this is that you think Morning Tweet is town as she voted you back in 105 (vote is still there btw) where if she were scum she wouldn’t have voted you cause scum wouldn’t commit to voting you?
Do I have this correct? If not, could you please clarify.

From my perspective, her vote on you is NAI. With all due respect I think the premise on which you started pressuring her was very weak. Initially the first time you pressured her (prior doubling and tripling down) comes off as a scum-read on you for trying to jump start a wagon with little to no evidence. Scum could jump for a potential mislynch or town could jump on that reading you as scum for using a flimsy premise. The commitment as being a town tell vs scum being in the middle I think is most appropriately put into practice with you committing to your pressuring of Morning Tweet vs Morning Tweet voting you.

@Cat Scratch Fever: in 279, this is in hindsight. When bob3141 first pushed Morning Tweet rather than Dany, sure it wouldn’t be too far fetched to think Dany/bob as a scum pairing at the time, but as bob has committed more and more with a weak premise, I don’t think scum would make that gambit to put themselves in the spotlight like THAT. Inevitably a wagon started on bob3141 cause of his push.

@bob3141: what do you make of Morning Tweet’s Pi 314 post about the make up of your wagon vs 292 post? I tend to agree more with Morning Tweet, but boy, I really do get a town read from you and would find it difficult to think 4 townies jumped on that wagon. By the triple down on Morning Tweet (post 149 is where I would put this cutoff as that’s where I personally thought, scum! wouldn’t push THIS hard before giving up) and before your removal of her vote (post 178) is where I find you most town and if scum were to jump onto your wagon, here’s where they could.

This leaves Allomancer and Paragon within that timeframe. Idk what your cut-off in terms of vote count that you place on “wagon” but Allomancer is the 3rd vote and Paragon’s 4th vote could be the cutoff for wagon. If scum were on your wagon, here’s where I’d look. Any thoughts on either?

what does everyone read from this. in particular the @ at cat and me.

and would , and would , and would, and would ,and would, and would


read it again and again. Strikes me as mav talking of them as town. in other words he said - he would find difficulty believing that would jump on me.

And the crux of narrative that kept happing from mav. was that my wagon was all town. He was usign that fact to push it


ontop of that cat v mav interactions dont look like svt.

[bob3141]

if he was town i would of expect him to use words like

I find it hard to beleive
I find it unlikely
And i doubt


but he used "and would"

here he is using wording that implys from his pov that 4 townies voting me was past event. And not a potential unlikely occurance

[bob3141]

drew just hammered

[bob3141]

i mean mala

[bob3141]

trollie, bambi, germa , mala

[bob3141]

i wanted bambi


but was 100% sure drew was town.

It was bambi good claim that won it for scum.

bambi flip flop from trollie to drew marked him as sure scum.

Only reason i thought it was trollie was that trollie was pushign a clear on player i thought was 100% scum

[bob3141]

the irony is if bb had said he would neighbourize bambi day 3. Then this prob would of been a win for town.

That fateful trollie, bambi and bb event tipped it for scum

[bob3141]

That was one crazy ass gambit bambi

also why wouldnt scum have nked me last night and near guaranteed bambi never got lynched?

that would confirm bambi as scum.

with town bambi and town trollie.

scum always kill bambi first.

As trollie confirms bambi but not the other way around

[bob3141]

i wanted to punish scum for no killing.

Why did every one end my fun.

we had 24 more days to go till this was over.


although i wanted bambi today. i secretly wanted to force two more no lynches

[bob3141]

@trollie nothing could of changed my read on bambi. After are argument on our role. i down graded you role a bit due to it being unreliable.

was still stuck on you by proxy of bambi though.

[bob3141]

i wanted to punish scum for no killing.

Why did every one end my fun.

we had 24 more days to go till this was over.


although i wanted bambi today. i secretly wanted to force two more no lynches

Because I would have cried. I’m legit going back into the city tmrw for a 16 hr shift

And the thing is if you had killed.

then there would another 12 days to choose a lynch

and if we got it right. Then another 12 days after that

[bob3141]

At that point you won the game as it made your lynch impossible bambi.

Trollie would never lynch you. That would mean all remaining townies would have to get on your lynch. With it taking only one to death tunnel town resulting in town losign thier last mislynch