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Based on interactions i don’t think Looker is a likely teammate. Not Churros either.
Riabi maybe.
Battle Mage and Una, obviously not.
72offsuit could be, especially if Luca is town.
Egix seems very likely. Luca too.
Anotora might be.
I’m not sure whether Zantetsu is the type that buzzes his teammates or not. Does anyone have a meta with this guy?- NorwegianboyEE
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Actually that might be best. You and BM either both target me, or target Egix. Or someone else for that matter.In post 888, UnaBombaH wrote:Guess it's better to really focus one slot and lock it down as something.
But that guarantees that even if one of you dies, the other will get a result.
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You'd probably say the same thing if you were scum, but point taken.In post 893, Luca Blight wrote:I just think reading too much in associations, unless the evidence is really damning, is a fool’s game. For decent scum players, muddying the associations is the easiest thing to do, and Zant is clearly a decent scum player.- NorwegianboyEE
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Yes, i thought it was a weird post. But i don't get it.
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Aren't they pretty much the same thing? But yeah, PT cop is what he explicitly claimed.In post 917, Egix96 wrote:You mean pt cop, not ta?- NorwegianboyEE
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Let me answer this conundrum for you.In post 942, 72offsuit wrote:
How have you come to the conclusion that Zantetsu is unlikely to be a neighbour/mason?In post 740, Battle Mage wrote:Ok well with that somewhat clarified, and in the spirit of the day, I'm claiming as well
I'm a 'PT Cop', which means I can investigate people and find out if they are in private threads (which presumably is because we have neighbours and scum).
Last night I investigated Zantetsu and he came up positive. Given the claims and his reaction seems pretty unlikely he is a neighbour/mason, so he must be scum.
Vote: Zantetsu
Battle Mage claims PT cop with a guilty on Zantetsu.
Zantetsu claims he has no PT's at all and that Battle Mage is lying.
Ergo: One of Zantetsu/Battle Mage are lying and is most likely scum.- NorwegianboyEE
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So Zantetsu is most likely scum. Yes?In post 964, 72offsuit wrote:
I've read through nowIn post 951, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Lol, i'll be back when 72's read through the game.
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I don't see how that is likely given these points.In post 968, 72offsuit wrote:No, I think Zantetsu is town and BM is scum.In post 760, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Zantetsu. If BM is lying. He’ll be lynched tommorow. What is the reason for BM to fake claim a guilty on you if he dies tommorow assuming you flip town?In post 761, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Like yeah, it buys scum an extra day. But he get’s outed as scum and people can use that association to find the next scums. The only plausible explanation i can see is that he fake claims to protect someone else being wagoned, but wouldn’t that also become apparent if he was exposed?
I just don’t see what scum!Battle Mage would gain from faking a guilty on you at this stage of the game. And you’ve even made it clear that you’re claiming no PT’s on your person. So explain that result then?- NorwegianboyEE
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It's pretty outlandish how you're saying Battle Mage is scum, and saying i'm doing scummy play today and "setting up mislynches" based on his claim.
Think about it. All of the supposed "mislynches" i'm setting up are based on Zantetsu flipping scum. If he is town as you believe and i am setting up mislynches based on him flipping scum then that destroys my plan the very moment Zantetsu supposedly flips town.- NorwegianboyEE
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Which brings me to my next point, in a Battle Mage/Norwee scum world. What kind of idiotic plan is this? Fake a guilty on town!Zantetsu, set up mislynches. And then look like the biggest idiot once Zantetsu is lynched and flips town instead?
You're logic is completely faulty and i have no idea how you can believe Zantetsu is town.- NorwegianboyEE
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The case has been well stated but i'm trying to move ahead too quickly? From my POV we've caught scum and had all the discussion in the world regarding it.In post 977, Riabi wrote:I think the case against Zan has been well stated, and doesn't need repeating here. Norwegian just seems too eager to move quickly today, and I wonder if that's not just scum finding a good (fake) case against a townie and trying to get a fast lynch going before it can be too closely examined.
One curiousity regarding you, apparently if you believe Zantetsu is town then your natural next step is lynching me? Why? Battle Mage made the claim. Why would you lynch a suspected teammate over who would be from your POV, the actual scum?- NorwegianboyEE
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BM claimed PT cop. And a guilty on Zantetsu after investigating him on night 1.In post 981, Riabi wrote:While I'm not saying this is the case, let's assume we're wrong about Zan for a moment. It's possible in that case that BM is still town and just making a bad read, and if that's what's going on, Norway's insistence that we lynch NOW is concerning to me.
How is that something you'd construct as: "could just be town making a bad read"?- NorwegianboyEE
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So what Zantetsu has been saying right now is all a fabrication to get off the hook?In post 997, Battle Mage wrote: I'm not quite sure what to say Zant...are you alleging I'm town fake-claiming to get you lynched?
Quite obviously not true, and no idea why Norweg bought it in 993...- NorwegianboyEE
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Interesting. That very well could be the case.
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Well, since you asked so nicely.In post 1016, Riabi wrote:From this:
to this:In post 807, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If Zantetsu and Luca Blight are scums then the most likely teammate is Egix96.
Solve= Zantetsu/Luca Blight/Egix96
Lynch in this order.
Zantetsu, if scum -> lynch Luca Blight, if scum -> lynch Egix96.
What happened to your confidence? What happened to what appeared to be near certainty that the game was solved? If your reads were so certain, someone simply asking you to slow down shouldn't shake that certainty.NorwegianboyEE wrote:If Zantetsu flips scum i’d take another look at that Riabi guy. His interractions recently has been awful. And reflects an unnatural mindset.
First of all, Luca has been posting a lot of posts since i jotted down that case, and that’s made me consider alternatives and whether he could be town. Regarding Egix, he claimed friendly neighbor. A role that can be confirmed, and which was crumbed in his first post. Not easy to fake. Meanwhile your posts have been suspicious as hell, especially that part where you were trying to sell a narrative of me being scum if Zantetsu is town. While completely ignoring the implications of Battle Mage’s claim. Assuming Zantetsu were to flip town.
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Actually that’s the one thing that’s been bothering me too. Isn’t "pt cop" a somewhat archaic term? In every normal i’ve played the role is always called "traffic analyst"
I get that they mean the same thing, but unless this setup is custom and created by the mod himself. I’d find it weird if the role was given out with the name: "pt cop"- NorwegianboyEE
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Ok i understand now.In post 1032, Luca Blight wrote:Regarding the role name, I believe PT Cop is a slightly stronger version of TA - if my understanding is correct, it can detect someone has access to a pt even if no-one else is in it/using it, but for a TA to detect a pt there has to be at least two players in it.
As they’re two slightly different roles I don’t see why a pt cop couldn’t be included instead of TA, to allow a little more power.
Well, then i don’t really have too much doubts. Zantetsu should be the lynch today.- NorwegianboyEE
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Also i'm curious why Egix is listed as likely scum partner if Zant is scum, but not if Battle Mage is scum. Why should that make a difference?In post 1048, 72offsuit wrote:Most likely scum partners:
Zant: NBEE, Churros, Anotora, Looker, Egix
BM: NBEE, Una, Churros, Anotora, Looker, Luca
Like i said though, dont put much merit to preflip associations- NorwegianboyEE
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But yeah, that's just one gripes out of many i have with this list.In post 1053, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Also i'm curious why Egix is listed as likely scum partner if Zant is scum, but not if Battle Mage is scum. Why should that make a difference?In post 1048, 72offsuit wrote:Most likely scum partners:
Zant: NBEE, Churros, Anotora, Looker, Egix
BM: NBEE, Una, Churros, Anotora, Looker, Luca
Like i said though, dont put much merit to preflip associations
Other problems are the fact that you're listing me as scum in every possible scum team combination, and the fact that you're blatantly ignoring some slots while blatantly adding others to the list. Anyway, why is Riabi unlikely as a scum partner and not listed? He's the only one you haven't included in any part of your list.- NorwegianboyEE
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bruhIn post 1061, Battle Mage wrote:Can someone helpfully list who has claimed what, and who hasn't claimed?In post 996, NorwegianboyEE wrote:- Unclaimed -
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Yeah, he said that.In post 1067, Battle Mage wrote:Ok great, and Egix said he was not confirmed because his role is gated or something? Which means he can only use it at certain times/frequency?- NorwegianboyEE
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he claimed when we were theorizing that he was Zantetsu's scum teammate and we asked him to claim.In post 1079, Churros wrote:Norwegian I need your help in this one since I skipped a lot of posts before, when Egix claimed FN, what was the game climate? I can only see scum!Egix fakeclaiming FN if he was close to being lynched. It would be helpful to know the circumstances of the claim.- NorwegianboyEE
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Your reads are fine i guess. I'm not sure i fully agree on Riabi myself, but you explained why you townread him so i won't question your stance.In post 1104, Churros wrote:I mean I want my townblock to comment on what I said, I don't care about what my lynch pool has to say about my townreads or anything right now.- NorwegianboyEE
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You said you thought he was town earlier, now you’re pointing out all the scummy things he’s done? Ok...In post 1085, Zantetsu wrote:OK I'm done now. I am irritated by what BM has done but I think I have to get my emotions in check because my pointing out every scummy thing BM has done is not going to change the outcome and is just noise at this point. I am so annoyed though. Urgh.- NorwegianboyEE
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