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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:57 am
by humaneatingmonkey
describe the change that you're making

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:59 am
by HoldenGolden
Simply put: Aggression.

Both in the last blitz and the newbie for example I correctly pinned scum down for the right reasons (You and 3b respectively game wise) but end up not following through pushing them because I'm cautious or get side track.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:03 am
by humaneatingmonkey
yes you seem more accusatory and it's pinging me

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:07 am
by humaneatingmonkey
you're scum, aren't you?

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:09 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 195, HoldenGolden wrote:
In post 193, humaneatingmonkey wrote:HG how do you feel when i tell you that im not townreading you
Relieved. Would hate to find out you were scum trying to buddy me again.

Nice curious George joke btw
In post 197, HoldenGolden wrote:Shiki is HEM town?
what's the purpose of asking shiki if you think im not scum buddying you?

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:09 am
by humaneatingmonkey
why are you relieved that im scum trying to buddy you instead of scum trying to shade you

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:12 am
by HoldenGolden
George and Datnsi, what do you think about my proposed Neighbor gambit?

Pedit: that's a pretty big accusation monkey. But I admire your balls. Sadly I didnt roll scum.
Ppedit: oh I thought that was an obvious joke since you said we are using Shiki as our meta dictionary. I have my own read on you which is a townlean.
Pppedit: Because I have trouble picking up on it I am being buddy case in point the newbie where it took me till day 3 to even suspect it?

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:13 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 205, humaneatingmonkey wrote:why are you relieved that im scum trying to buddy you instead of scum trying to shade you
Wait. Do you read 195 as a scum lean accusation?

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:14 am
by Datisi
In post 206, HoldenGolden wrote:George and Datnsi, what do you think about my proposed Neighbor gambit?
not much? my current ~best bet~ is also that they're neighbors, but if i recall correctly they've been given one last chance to confirm if they're masons or not, so i'm kinda waiting on that.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:15 am
by humaneatingmonkey
I read 195 as faking paranoia over me.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:15 am
by humaneatingmonkey
VOTE: HoldenGolden I think this is scum

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:20 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 209, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I read 195 as faking paranoia over me.
How is that faking paranoia? Because I bring up an if statement where you are scum directly referencing our last game?

Saying someone isnt buddy =/= saying someone is shading. I dont understand that gap in logic.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:22 am
by HoldenGolden
UNVOTE: HEM

I forgot my vote was there

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:24 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 208, Datisi wrote:
In post 206, HoldenGolden wrote:George and Datnsi, what do you think about my proposed Neighbor gambit?
not much? my current ~best bet~ is also that they're neighbors, but if i recall correctly they've been given one last chance to confirm if they're masons or not, so i'm kinda waiting on that.
It's more do you agree that hoctacs posting makes sense if it is some sort of reaction test.

I see holes in logic for if they are Mason/neighbors/ or scum

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:24 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Hmm

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:26 am
by Datisi
In post 213, HoldenGolden wrote:It's more do you agree that hoctacs posting makes sense if it is some sort of reaction test.
i agree, but i have no clue what he's trying to accomplish.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:26 am
by humaneatingmonkey
You said you're relieved as if you've decided I'm town just because I'm scumread you, as if you were suspicious that I'm scum, but that's the flimsiest reason to decide I'm town there.

But you said I'm a townlean. Why am I a townlean?

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:28 am
by humaneatingmonkey
I'm not phrasing this properly and this is because I'm alt-tabbing during work.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:34 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 216, humaneatingmonkey wrote:You said you're relieved as if you've decided I'm town just because I'm scumread you, as if you were suspicious that I'm scum, but that's the flimsiest reason to decide I'm town there.

But you said I'm a townlean. Why am I a townlean?
That post had nothing to do with my read on you. It's literally me saying that I'm glad I'm not getting buddyed since you daid you arent town reading me. Ahich only can happen if you were scum.

The short story on the town lean; I think there is a couple of spots where you could of exploited posts to suit a mafia agenda (George's confusion for example) and have done pro-town moves like the issuing of the refusal to accept backpedals from Hoctac/ulmatal rather than opening the door for later confusion

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:54 am
by Hiraki
In post 165, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 163, Hiraki wrote:This doesn't sound like a town line of logic and it feels rather forced given the prior posts before it.
What sounds like town line of logic here? Why did it feel forced?
I don't understand how townie thinking equates to "how does X see me" which your post implicates.
In post 169, Madoka wrote:It indicates that you are playing objectively and are not so much concerned with how you are perceived.
It indicates the opposite.
In post 169, Madoka wrote:I think a fair amount of pressure is good on Hiraki, though, because lurking is disadvantageous to the town.
This is scummy.

meta garbage pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttttttttt
In post 191, HoldenGolden wrote:
In post 157, Madoka wrote:I think Hiraki is currently a good place for pressure. I do not have any strong reads yet.
So pressure them?
Ohhhh so good Holden. I want you to take it a step further though.
In post 194, HoldenGolden wrote:Are you prosing that the lack of townping by hoctac on Madoka is associated? If so, how?
Perhaps. Something to keep in mind for the future rather than now. It just seems very weird and random and definitely a bad attempt at shade.

I don't think Holden is different. Just a little lighter which is nice.
In post 212, HoldenGolden wrote:UNVOTE: HEM

I forgot my vote was there
Yuck.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:56 am
by Hiraki
I do not understand the point of reading into the masons/neighbor/scumteam claim. This game will not be won over role speculation.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:58 am
by humaneatingmonkey
It's kinda important, man. Otherwise, how are you gonna sort Hoctac and Umlaut?

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:01 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 219, Hiraki wrote:I don't understand how townie thinking equates to "how does X see me" which your post implicates.
it's not "how does X see me". i think you're not understanding what i meant. i didn't want to talk about the mason claim because it would be talked about and their reaction would confirm the role. Meanwhile, GeorgeBailey swooped in and tried to confirm the mason claims — which is against the town win alignment because you're outing your masons.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:07 am
by humaneatingmonkey
UNVOTE:

meh. HG's "changing of playstyle" completely explains the weirdness in his approach and i really don't think it's insincere.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:08 am
by humaneatingmonkey
you better not be fucking with me, donkey