Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[Datisi]

i said "allowed to not play on it", not "not allowed to play on it"

[Datisi]

role pm says something along the lines of: you’re allowed to request a mask account to post with

the more i think about this, the less sense it makes, and i don't want to think about it because i don't want donc to be scum so lol me

[Datisi]

you're giving me jk9++ vibes

i dunno if that's your ~general playstyle~ and i'm picking up on NAI things or

[Datisi]

i cannot explain vibes, no

[Datisi]

i mean i'm not asking you to engage with it

i was planning on just sulking about it for a bit by myself before i decided what to do with that but you kinda forced it out by "oh just read me"

[Datisi]

if you're town, just keep doing your thing, i'll hopefully figure it out

[Datisi]

i'm interested in hearing why is s_s locktown?

[Datisi]

lilith, reads on other players atp?

[Datisi]

what is supposed to be my takeaway from those quotes, tw?

[Datisi]

i like... Understand what duck is trying to tell me i'm just not sure how much i Agree about that point

how likely % is it that we're gonna be eliminating between skitt/duck today

[Datisi]

what i meant by that is like
i see 3 new pages every hour and for so much of it it's like "god i do not want to be reading this"
and if we wanna let skitt/tw gladiate each other then murder one of them, yeah sure continue
but otherwise it just lowkey feels like Noise

[Datisi]

and like i know i don't have a right to talk considering i definitely helped with the pagecount

but uh

yeah

[Datisi]

plot twist: skitt and tw are actually masons and this is galaxy brain distancing

[Datisi]

[Datisi]

(i am going to pretend like the thought of the scumteam being skitt/tw didn't cross my mind because haha)

[Datisi]

(i am going to pretend that this conversation is not making me increasingly paranoid)

[Datisi]

are you two... like... purposefully trying to kill me

[Datisi]

((ﾟ□ﾟ;))

[Datisi]

no, sorry

at the time i wrote that post, i had already gone through half his iso in one of his towngames (micro 900) and i didn't find any similar comments, and later i just sorta forgot about it

thinking back now, i'm not sure it's as damning as i thought, i was just lowkey excited to have a reason to think someone is scum, however dumb that reason might be

[Datisi]

@Datisi: Would you say this post is similar to me going "hm, interesting" in this game?

no, that's not what i had in mind

like i noticed you have this thing, where you're informed about something, and someone who's uninformed is correct, you have a weird bland reaction

(sweet fuck it took me like 10 minutes to find the quotes from the coalition)

Hmm I want to say Bailey/nonimh actually

what makes u think that

also the only scumteam i see aldu on is with Pooky so please reread aldu if Pooky ends up scum in the future. thx

that's a spicy take

i dunno if this is similar enough to actually be of any value (plus it would imply aldus/theworst team which is just ???) but anyway yeah this is what i had in mind.

[Datisi]

idk Datisi do you think an aldus/duck team is out of the question? because I don’t

how insane do you think my reasoning for aldus/duck is tho

[Datisi]

idk Datisi do you think an aldus/duck team is out of the question? because I don’t

how insane do you think my reasoning for aldus/duck is tho

Sorry what’s the reasoning for it

oh my god, you made me go dig up quotes

1283 and 1725

[Datisi]

sorry datisi idg how 1725 points to duck scumpartner

> informed!aldus has bland reaction when someone uninformed makes a correct guess
> in this game aldus had a bland reaction when skitt called duck scum
> the only way aldus can be informed about duck scum is if he's his partner

idk how else to explain it

[Datisi]

Yes got it okay. You quoted something about scum!Pooky in 1725 so I was confused. All good

that was from the coalition game where aldus and pooky were scumpartners

[Datisi]

i like making 5D 9000IQ associate cases okay leave me alone

[Datisi]

also aldus, this was explained later, but yeah i was voting you even tho i was somewhat town on you because i've been somewhat town on everyone but pooky which means i'm going wrong *somewhere*

[Datisi]

now i'm thinking if "i'm fine being killed day 1 if that means yall get datisi day 2" contradicts him being a PR

now i wanna vote there again lmao

[Datisi]

aldus no you're making me think i don't wanna think anymore

[Datisi]

fuck !!!

[Datisi]

@skitt&aldus, how Significant do you think my catch is?

[Datisi]

ye, i was expecting something like that too.

pooky, were you "at least implyng" i'm scum in any of the quotes aldus quoted in 1807

[Datisi]

which part?

[Datisi]

scumslips are a thing but happen much less than people calling things scumslips

what did you catch?

[Datisi]

skitt, i kinda get outsourcing the donc read to me (not fully get it, but i kinda get it), but why aldus?

[Datisi]

Dats you dont have a read on dc?
I was kinda hoping you would so that i could outsource it to you

[Datisi]

i do not remember you saying that about bugs, but could be i'm getting things mixed up already, this is too many pages

also my feel for aldu is currently "???" but also "we have nowhere else to go today so lol i guess"

[Datisi]

the more i look at this mess the more i think "huh, skitt/duck would Explain Things" and that scares me

[Datisi]

ok cool, they can't kill both of us

[Datisi]

i didn't say skitt/aldus, i said skitt/duck

[Datisi]

i mean i'm still interested in whatever you saw, lilith

[Datisi]

ye, i noticed that post too, and almost replied with "you mean confirmed vanilla", but ehh i don't think it's a scumslip

[Datisi]

the only thing that the past ~3 pages have accomplished is making me want to execute between skitter and duck until we get a red flip (and maybe even further) even more

other than my initial impression of "skit and duck are both good players, and i doubt if they were TvT they would both be scumreading each other like this", now it's the fact that, while this dance is going, i don't think anyone is excitedly jumping around it trying to push one of them through (unless you wanna argue i'm doing that, but eh...) which is sorta what i'd expect if they *were* TvT

in other words, big sad. help.

[Datisi]

is there a reason you quoted that part of the post from me?

[Datisi]

i don't think the gamestate is messed up, i think there's scum in you/duck, and it Fucking Scares Me

[Datisi]

i wish donc was here.

no, not right now. i kinda want to see ~where this goes~ for now. at the moment i don't think i could make any argument that you wouldn't shut right down, regardless of your alignment.

[Datisi]

not in that way! i'm happy to see you, lilith!

[Datisi]

Datisi what was your overall impression of bugs

it was town. i dunno, i usually get this ~really strong feeling~ whenever bugs is scum, and it was kinda just not present here?

[Datisi]

that sentence didn't mean to imply anything about my feelings about you but i cannot explain it and am asking you to take my word for it because i'm legit feeling bad rn

[Datisi]

skitter and duck, i feel like his input would be useful at the moment. i'm getting such bad vibes.

[Datisi]

huh. truth be told i tuned him out completely, after seeing yesterday night he's keeping up his bullshit potshots of aldus "being my buddy", i've been barey reading his posts because nothing good comes out of it.

probably scratch the second point. i still feel uneasy about the first one.

[Datisi]

oh i scumread him super super strongly, i'm just not particularly interested in forcing it through to an elim rn

can you talk a bit more about this?

[Datisi]

oh i scumread him super super strongly, i'm just not particularly interested in forcing it through to an elim rn

can you talk a bit more about this?

i don't want to force it if there isn't popular support for it, it would make things Unpleasant i think

do you think it's fair that i'm getting increasingly worried about you taking that position?

[Datisi]

that is fine, and makes sense!
if u would like to elaborate, feel free!

(i have like oog Thoughts on the efficacy and efficiency and fun-ness of forcing things through)

i don't know if there is much to elaborate. i guess i'm just seeing scum!agenda behind that. being able to shut him out while not going head on?

[Datisi]

and @dats @lilith that's fine. i don't really want to push it through, and i get that you see a scum!agenda there, but i don't think it's the right time yet.

"right time"... you think pushing duck through later is gonna be more pleasant?

[Datisi]

@Datisi: How strong is your TR on bugspray/Raven?

dats what do u think of raven?

i will soon (maybe later, maybe tomorrow) go over the games where bugs was scum and where i caught them to hopefully remind me what about their posting as scum gives me ~the feel~. and over some games bugs was town, but maybe i'll have to dive into second-hand meta because bugs seems to have a thing for rolling scum against me...

i am surprisingly null on raven. i've played with her before (i figured out your main, before you ask), and i'd usually correctly scumread her when scum, so the fact that i'm not doing that here might be town!indicative, but i'm not married to that.

[Datisi]

i think i'll have more support for it as time goes on

skitt, assuming town!skit scum!duck world, what do you think are the odds (assuming we don't execute duck today) that he simply kills you tonight?

pedit: how are you null on s_s

[Datisi]

it's ok lilith

we are all be obvtown on this blessed day

[Datisi]

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like

aldus is my friend obviously

but if you keep implying "oh datisi and aldus are friends and they join games together where they don't care about alignments and just bully-lynch because of past games" that is getting on my nerves and i'm asking you to stop

[Datisi]

hey, i was spamming the votecounts just to show off as much flavour as possible >_>

[Datisi]

probably have, but the "aldus shitposting with his buddy datisi" doesn't strike me much confidence

[Datisi]

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why are you like this

[Datisi]

lilith, i don't know. my train of thought was "koba and donc are town, bugs is prob town, we're Not Eliminating skit or duck, we're ObViOuSlY not eliminating me, leaves aldus and dsjstr, we're picking between them, djstsr is being lowkey towny, we're gonna end up consolidating on aldus, done."

and i am sick and tired of this day 1. like i feel like i've hit a wall and my will to actually play is dead because i feel like we need to kill someone. but the game got turned into skit/duck, now it's about raven, now we're talking about aldus again. i thought we were just "waiting for replacements to catch up before we consolidate of aldus" because i didn't think there's anywhere else to go.

and i was fine with that. i don't think there's been a game where i haven't scumread aldus to some degree, regardless of his alignment. and i lowkey just wanna kill there because i am so goddamn tired of this day 1? but skit/tw are acting weird and i don't like it and i don't have the willpower to figure out who is bullshitting there and i don't think i even have the ability to figure that out and i just? wanna be done??? with this fucking day????

[Datisi]

VOTE: aldus

i am tired. so goddamn tired.

[Datisi]

i think at this point, either (a) give good reasons why we should vote [someone other than aldus] or (b) vote aldus. this game is dragging on. if we're not attempting to resolve skit/duck today then i don't think there's any different way this day ends.

[Datisi]

i dunno if raven wants time to catch up but like

s_s/lilith/me are not happening today
pooky is Very Cool Power Role
raven is probtown
skit/duck are Not Getting Eliminated today

there's like nowhere else to go
i want this darn day to be over

pedit: i'm eh on that claim happening now but
who are you from the game?

[Datisi]

ok hear me out, i have a 100% ev ez pz town win plan

first we execute skitter

if she scum gg we got one
if she town we just chain execute all of duck/raven/aldus

this post is 75% sarcastic

[Datisi]

lilith what do you think of this skitt/raven thing for the past page or two?

[Datisi]

lilith, i have no clue

i am genuinely completely lost in this discussion about lunacy and meta and i was hoping to sheep you on it because you also played in that game but

i still haven't reviewed bugs games if you're asking that

[Datisi]

i know but i have some sorta track record reading bugs so

ugh i don't know this game is a mess!!

[Datisi]

skitt, can you talk about what your read on bugspray was through the game?

[Datisi]

i really don't get the point of using an alt in order to avoid people making ""bad"" meta reads on you, but then constantly talking about meta *and* telling people to meta check you

[Datisi]

i lowkey think raven is being towny in a weird way and i don't know what to think

[Datisi]

look what y'all have done to my poor triangle

at this rate the scumteam is gonna end up being s_s/lilith because this game is a game

[Datisi]

necause my read on you is currently oh god oh fuck i don't know

[Datisi]

shhh you are doing better

in other news, i looked at some of bugs's completed games (both town and scum, both first-hand and second-hand meta), and i don't know how to explain my feelings there. like, the best i know how to say it is, in games where bugs was scum, i would get a "!!!" ding in my head when they'd post, and i didn't get that "!!!" ding when they were town. this is like, the ultimate gut read that i cannot put into words and i do not know its accuracy.

[Datisi]

the dumbest reason why i currently think alduskkel could be flipping red is because he claimed at like L-2 and the first time i've ever seen town!aldus he didn't claim even with intent on him and i vaguely remember him claiming really easily as scum in pyp too but also i just want this damn day one to be over and can't tell if i'm confbiasing any read that i fet because i want to let myself vote against someone and also why do people like playing town???

[Datisi]

"aldus claim"

"no"

"understandable have a nice day"

man that was the fucking funniest shit

[Datisi]

is it just me or is this game big autumnal vibes

ok yes you were indeed at E-1 in pyp when you claimed i deeply apologize for misremembering

where the fuck is the duck i need input

[Datisi]

says the guy who died night one and didn't ahve to play that bitchass lylo

[Datisi]

where the fuck is the duck i need input

i need more input than that

[Datisi]

i don't know what i want

you're right this d1 is dragging tf on but i am less and less sure what to do

[Datisi]

So you didn’t get any !!! dings in this game?

nope

[Datisi]

for the record lilith is no longer giving me jk9++ vibes (i guess it really was just her playstyle) if that wasn't 100% from my triangle

also i wish s_s was here

@pooky, i made that point earlier wrt aldus's "similar reactions" but i connected it with duck, so now i think it's just a way of speaking rather than a Super Secret 100% Partnertell

[Datisi]

i don't know what to think
like on one hand i wanna yolo vote skitter bcs like i wanna trust in my unexplainable bugs soulread
on the other hand a good friend of mine once told me he thinks scum are more likely to be in my "oh god oh fuck i don't know" reads and aldus is a very much oh god oh fuck i don't know and i'm tempted to sheep that if that means i can stop thinking about this game

help

[Datisi]

@Lillith, @Datisi, @duckling, @Pooky, what do you guys all think?

help

pedit: ducky i don't think that was his point but that is actually a pretty interesting thought
do you think it's +scum for aldus

[Datisi]

like
2378 strikes me as so Fake As Fuck
but i ain't ever in my life call out scum theatre successfully and i sure as fuck ain't starting now
actually maybe like once but it was like a year ago

[Datisi]

what sounds fake as fuck about that post datisi?

i don't know
the "realy skitter???"and "guys after i flip green please have an eye out for skitter : (((((" liek idk
again i'm not putting too much stock into that

@skitt what are your thoughts on duck now
like am i supposed to believe the whole you/duck thing was tvt

[Datisi]

i've played/modded like 5 games with/for aldus and i still can't read him for shit so like

[Datisi]

i want to unvote because i'm not sure i want this yet

but i also want someone to hammer so i can take a fucking break from this game

decisions decisions decisions

[Datisi]

2230 is now 70% sarcastic

[Datisi]

i realize that post does nothing but potentially give scum!skitter more ammo to completely obliterate me in a 1v1 in lylo

but that's okay, i live life on the edge

[Datisi]

the jury is still out, skitt

i'm telling them to hurry up

they tell me to piss off

they're very mean

[Datisi]

it's all a matter of how much stock am i willing to put into my bugspray read when i don't know how to explain it to myself

like, with all the mess that's been going on, i want to believe skitt/duck/aldus/raven hits both scum and that that's game

but what if it's not

[Datisi]

if i had to lock in a coalition right now i think it would be dats/lilith/s_s/raven/dsjstr

i wonder if that's a winning coalition

probably not

[Datisi]

the solve is actually... skitter/theworst... can't you all see...

i wonder how long can i shitpost like this while everyone else around me is trying to solve before someone tells me to go fuck myself

[Datisi]

the solve is actually... skitter/theworst... can't you all see...

i wonder how long can i shitpost like this while everyone else around me is trying to solve before someone tells me to go fuck myself

Dats if Aldus flips red can I get on your coalition?

you dare ask me
after micro 952
if you scumreading aldus who then flips scum means i'll townread you

good one

[Datisi]

quality fucking pagetop

[Datisi]

of page 100 too!

[Datisi]

what happens is aldus flips green tho

[Datisi]

how sure are you about that and how fast should we execute you on day 2 if skit flips green

[Datisi]

this is a lowkey prodge but

What is even remotely scummy about my posting style? Don’t you think if I was actually scum here, I would have already hammered? *smdh*.

not if you're scum with aldu ...

So what would you have me do then? You did see where I posted my intent to hammer right but Lillith asked me to wait.

not sure i get this? you're arguing as scum you would've hammered but then arguing you're not scum because you've given intent? i feel like i'm missing something in this convo

[Datisi]

so you're saying if you were scum with aldu, you wouldn't have given intent on him, but would've tried to push somewhere else, did i get that right? (i have not slept much pls excuse my illiteracy)

[Datisi]

yes, it is, which is why i'm confused why you're saying you would've hammered already as scum?

[Datisi]

s_s who do you wanna vote for?

[Datisi]

lilith is s_s still locktown territory?

[Datisi]

UNVOTE:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Datisi]

i am not having breakdown over this deadline what do you m e a n totally not nope

[Datisi]

i want s_s and lilith to sell me on who i should vote for but neither of them have their minds completely made up and that is making it difficult

[Datisi]

i love provable town PRs

do we path of least resistance slam aldus or flashwagon duck

also skitt if you were consciously acting somewhat scummy not to get nk'ed do you still think duck's push on you is bad faith

[Datisi]

VOTE: aldus

L-1

assuming nobody will be quickhammering this before we're ready

[Datisi]

UNVOTE:

scum!aldus might, i'm stupid nvm

[Datisi]

VOTE: aldus

this is L-2, i'm gonna vote now since my sleep schedule is super fucked these days and if y'all decide you want to execute aldus you don't need to gamble on me being awake at whatever ungodly hour it is in europe

[Datisi]

i'm not going to sleep yet

just sayin', prefer i don't have to watch this thread like a hawk until 6am

and yeah i hear you, if you wanna talk more about why *this gamestate* doesn't happen if you/duck is tvt i will very take that into account if you die

[Datisi]

i mean... the "theme" is that 9 random micro games from the last year are chosen and roles are put from them to be at least somewhat balanced and whatnot, i wouldn't put much stock in "a theme ontop of that"

i don't trust pooky entirely but there's no way to disprove PR claims without a massclaim and rn i don't think it's a Good Idea

[Datisi]

i am acknowledging skitter wants me to kill duck tomorrow if she dies tonight. and duck wants the same for skitter.

one sick part of me just wants you to be tvt and for all of this to be a big joke but that's probably game losing at this point... oh well.

[Datisi]

i'm still not completely discarding skit/duck btw. just sayin.

[Datisi]

and comments like that remind me of the way you talk about playing scum...

who's this @?

pedit:

[Datisi]

aldus you do understand "haha oops wrong thread pls ignore" is like A Meme

like you're not being serious rn right

pedit I AM NOT

[Datisi]

i refuse to believe anything about this game is real

[Datisi]

also I see skitter claimed a provable town PR

so either she'll be conftown or we should eliminate her if later she's like "i'm bulletproof/a roleblocker/some other scummy/non-confirmable role"

alright whatever i'm dumb (that's a bad meme though)
VOTE: skitter

what

[Datisi]

i have been going "what the fuck" for like the past 10 days with this game, way ahead of you

[Datisi]

snaw wee

[Datisi]

was that hammer? i thought aldu was on 3 but i might have missed a vote

[Datisi]

nvm am blind. goodnight.

[Datisi]

[Datisi]

discussion why a confirmed vanilla was killed over two claimed PRs go:

[Datisi]

ducky, from your PoV, how likely do you think it is that i am aligned with the scum in this game?

[Datisi]

i was visited by a friendly neighbour last night. skitter is aligned with the town.

wasn't sure if you wanted it out immediately.

[Datisi]

oh no.

[Datisi]

for a second, i thought... alright.

[Datisi]

i was visited by a friendly neighbour last night. skitter is aligned with the town.

wasn't sure if you wanted it out immediately.

Yeah i basically all but claimed yesterday and had a mini freak-out when there wasnt anything in ur entrance indicating you got it

Was worrried i got roleblocked cuz that would have been a freakin' mess

when i saw the lilith kill, i thought scum thought you were gonna send a note to her. that's why i wanted to keep quiet for a second, to maybe get an useful reaction or two when people saw that nobody is actually coming out and saying you're town.

[Datisi]

i'm feeling a certain uneasiness putting him on more votes right now.

[Datisi]

4 votes to execute and all that jazz? dunno. this game is weird.

[Datisi]

i know, i know. i don't know what it is, i just have ~a bad vibe~ right now. gimmie a bit.

[Datisi]

pooky is a claimed PR, dunno if you missed that

[Datisi]

i've no clue. he's also softed multiple times but i have no idea what to make of it. at the moment i'm just gonna chill, wait for everyone to appear, then probably bug duck to start explaining if nothing major happens that changes our plans.

[Datisi]

i think very short tl;dr is:
- koba made a dayvig shot at donc
- donc gave a "final readslist" in case it's real
- skit believed it, tw and donc didn't really
- then koba revealed it to be fake

i'm not sure if anything very AI came out of it.

[Datisi]

VOTE: the worst

there's something wrong in the village...

pedit: she did, because at the time she was thinking the "theme" of this game is roles that are confirmable - lilith being confirmable vanilla, skitter being a confirmable friendly neighbour, etc.

[Datisi]

the believed the dayvig*. though i think she believed both.

[Datisi]

she believed the dayvig* my god i am illiterate today

[Datisi]

UNVOTE:

[Datisi]

yeah, i'm really not interested in any "whoopsie, that was hammer? sowwy :3" tomorrow.

[Datisi]

Skitter is 100% confitown from this.

well, not if the scumteam is exactly me/skitter

but yeah, skitter is conftown. yay.

[Datisi]

that's part of it yeah, but there were other places if i recall correctly

[Datisi]

this game... this goddamn game...

[Datisi]

eh, not really. last game had a Seer, which can only find werewolves, not mafia. it was basically a named townie/visitor.

[Datisi]

i am ~this~ close to supporting a massclaim.

[Datisi]

what do we count as a TPR? do we count aldus as a TPR?

[Datisi]

vanilla townie ensign. that's why i'm asking.

pedit: that too yeah

[Datisi]

[Datisi]

[Datisi]

[Datisi]

dsjstr, when's that post coming?

[Datisi]

dsjstr, when's that post coming?

I mean you can look at the VC's and tell me I'm wrong but sorting the PR's seemed more important.

i mean sure, but if you've done VCA or smt i'd be intersted in hearing it

[Datisi]

is there anybody who objects to massclaiming at this juncture?

i'm somewhat indiffierent, with a pinch of "oh god, anything that is gonna help me make sense of this cursed game is very welcome"

so uhh, yeah. idk.

[Datisi]

who are the people that know mechanics here that can weigh in on should we or should we not massclaim

s_s?

[Datisi]

cool. i think i'm down, then.

[Datisi]

oh my, i think i know which game that is from.

[Datisi]

yeah, the alignment has to be the same as the original role. however, that setup also had a scum neighbour, and nothing's stopping scum!duck from flaiming to be the town neighbor in that game so...

[Datisi]

Subject: Micro 930: Neon Mafia (Game over!)

roles

Menalque

GeorgeBailey

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Vanilla Townie

Alduskkel

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Vanilla Townie

Quagsire

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Vanilla Townie

Luca Blight

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Town Macho Neapolitan

Heaven

Chemist1422

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Vanilla Townie

skitter30

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Mafia Goon

Captain the Furret

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Town Bodyguard Neighbor

Looker

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Vanilla Townie

Ph0enix

nomnomnom

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Mafia Neighbor

ducky, i'm just saying!!

[Datisi]

do you have like crumbs/softs that would be useful to point out now?

[Datisi]

...i actually believe that.

[Datisi]

i'm sorry, it's past 3am, i'm dead tired, and this is way funnier to me than it should be.

[Datisi]

sigh.

[Datisi]

i don't even know with this game anymore

like how Serious is that i can't even tell

[Datisi]

out of curiosity, do you have a hood created where it's just you?

[Datisi]

no one person hood? aww.

okay, waiting for pooky i guess.

[Datisi]

considering how vigs are a bad idea in micros, i'd bet a blank... who you tried to shoot?

[Datisi]

i'm kinda confused why pooky didn't shoot when he seemed so excited about his role back in early day 1 when he thought i was gonna hammer him...

[Datisi]

VOTE: pooky

don't buy it. he knew he was gonna be in PoE after aldus townflip, but decided not to shoot and confirm himself because fElT bAd? sure.

[Datisi]

fmpov there's an elephatn in the room

?

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VOTE: pooky

don't buy it. he knew he was gonna be in PoE after aldus townflip, but decided not to shoot and confirm himself because fElT bAd? sure.

uh if i shot you and you died and flip town and skitter doesn't get confirm'ed we'd be even more f'd

but you were townreading me so you wouldn't shoot me

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ducky i know but like what are you talking about

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3000

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fine by me

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tris from 893: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81029

i'm a town lover. i'm effectively a VT, except i investigate and flip as a town lover. i didn't bother crumbing too hard, since glorified VT, but i did drop this:

love you too, duckee

this is why i said i believed duck when he said he's a neighbor with no neighbor. i'm a lover with no lover.

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keep in mind that doesn't necessarily confirm his alignment, i don't see a reason why scum couldn't be a neighbor with no neighbor... but i highly doubt it at this point.

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it's pooky/dsjstr. discuss.

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also also: the reason pooky is claiming didn't try to shoot last night (even though he knows he's in the PoE after aldus flip) is because if he says he shot and he's a blank, we might hang him because "oh well just named townie" while now he's like "oh yeah gonna TRY TO shoot night 2". discuss. and by discuss i mean vote pooky.

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honestly I think the only value my role can play now is that if you guys accept me as town - scum will have to use a NK on me as I will draw vs scum in a 1v1 endgame but that would require you guys to actually believe me.

pooky: i don't know if i'm a blank or not
also pooky: as a vigilante i will definitely draw vs scum in a 1v1 endgame

good one yes

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does anyone know off hand if there's been a strongman in a micro in the last year?

there's been at least one (micro 909)

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i played in that game, it's a role madness chaos game where there's 3-5 viginaltes, and each has a 50% chance of being a blank viginalte. of course, the vigis themselves are not aware whether they're a blank or not.

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vigilante*, i can't spell. also the person he's claiming to be was a blank in that game, but the role PM doesn't say that.

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why not just say he vigged N1 but it failed? Why claim he just didn’t try?

because that

confirms

him to be either a blank or a lying scum. and with me in the game, you know which option i'm gonna push. this way, he can still buy time with "oh let me confirm myself tonight".

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@mod, if this bodyguard and the strongman from the role PM in 3048 both targetted player A, strongman using their strongman shot, and no other relevant roles in play, who would die?

Town Bodyguard Neighbor

Welcome, [playername]. You are a

Town Bodyguard Neighbor

.

Abilities:

• Bodyguard:
  Once every Night you may target another player to protect them from one killing action. Assuming no interference with your action, if you protect a player who would be killed that Night, you will die.
  
• Neighbor:
  You are a Neighbor with [playername]. Your Private Topic is here.

You win when all the threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

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it's not the same game. strongman is from 909, town bodyguard neighbor is from 930. the formatting looks similar because i modded both of those game.

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thanks!

anyway i don't know why we needed this since town bodyguard + friendly neighbor + some named townies is pretty much balanced against 2 goons but there you go

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the good mod literally just said that the bg can't stop a strongman shot

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for (to me) very obivous reasons, no-elimination today is literal gamethrowing:
- pooky is either trueclaiming normal vigi, trueclaiming blank vigi, or scum. (ordered from least to most likely in my opinion.)
- if he's a normal vig, then sure he gets confirmed upon no-elim and double-kill, however in both other cases we're strictly worse off tomorrow, we're at evens, we've lost an elimination, and pooky isn't resolved. we're not doing this.

pooky needs to die here, that is a blatant fakeclaim. *however*, if the rest of you are so scared of executing a claimed power role, here's what we do:
- we agree on (1) non-pooky target we execute today, and (2) non-pooky target we would execute tomorrow in 5p lylo.
- we hang (1), we order pooky to shoot (2).

this is dumb, but at the very goddamn least it's not literal gamethrowing.

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Don’t you think if the non-Pooky target flips town, Pooky shouldn’t shoot anyone?

no, that's exactly when he should be shooting.

like for example, say we agree that we hang dsjstr today, and if that hits green, we hang me tomorrow in 5p lylo.

there is no difference in outcome of the game whether town!me gets murdered by a vigilante OR hanged in 5p lylo. in both cases, town loses the game.
however, in the case where i am scum, pooky successfully shooting me instead of me getting hanged conftowns him.

like, in case our target number (2) is town, we don't lose anything, but if they're scum, we gain a conftown.

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skitt, what's your read on pooky now?

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is there anything i'm missing that would make pooky/dsjstr an unviable team?

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i think i was right early day one and i hate it

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ok, lemme run my thoughts by you.
i am town, you are confirmed town to me, ducky is very likely town based on that claim, s_s was locktowned by lilith. that leaves {pooky, raven (bugs), dsjstr}

am i wrong in think that, if the scumteam was dsjstr/bugspray, arguably the two weakest scumplayers here (no offense to either), against some strong town players such as you, duck, donc, that we would've solved this game much earlier and there wouldn't have been such a shitshow of a confusing game?

pedit: this ^^. also i'm BoPing myself on bugspray. also also i kinda scrolled back through micc's ISO, neither ever voted for the other, and pooky's been pushing aldus for a while when it looked like the day's execution was gonna be between dsjstr/aldus,

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also i still stand by my claim that pooky was trying to make aldus appear worse than he really is (e.g. saying his reaction to the mask thing was scum panicking due to running out of fakeclaims whatever)

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raven, it was an example. shooting a town player doesn't leavebus worse off than not shooting them in tht scenario.

skitt, i dunno. is it easy? is any solve in this game easy?

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the dude's name is wicked jester. actually his name is wickedestjr, but you know.

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Help

~pooky is scum~

there does that help

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Can we review why raven is town pls?

~ g u t ~

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who else do they kill if they wanna keep fanning the flames between you/duck?