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[DkKoba]

seeya

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i lied lol i was the 6th vote on u

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getem outtttta here

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doc on me pls esp if it flips red

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lol hold up which idiot flipped off of bob

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vp ill townread you if you quickhammer

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ok im actually malding bc i thought it was hammer);

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"I would never claim vt as scum!" - scum panic claiming vt

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u know why scum dont claim pr on d1? Bc they'll look v sus when they live to d2. And then d3.

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yeah ill hang scummy pr claims all day lmao.

throwback to spectating MU championship game 6 where they just straight hard hanged a joat claim that shit was hilarious

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If scum "nearly always claim PR day one" then isn't the correct scum claim to claim VT?

ding ding ding

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wtf is this dude saying lmao

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im CACKLING like i have never heard of this b4 and regardless its a pointless discussion

[DkKoba]

If i survive to d2 ill go for vp's head if u flip town bob and thats on period T

[DkKoba]

my promises are irontight

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what kind of question is that

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cant sort me still?

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u can sort george but not me?

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90%

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Okay, so why is test better than bob?

Of test and Bob, who do you prefer eliminating?

See these are comments that scum make. Scum when they have two town wagosn always talk about this one or that one.

Hey everyone, guess who I'm impersonating:

"Both the leading wagons are town. But scum won't join them to push them over the edge for like 20 pages now.

LOGICCCCCCC IS KINNNNNNGGGGGG"

Occams razor is hard

[DkKoba]

Can somebody please point where I said I would have been happy to vote for a PR claim? You’re the one that reeks of Scum making broad generalizations without even reading the game. A PR claim near death (particularly unprompted because nobody indicated they would hammer) would have been suspicious, and could have accelerated momentum against them. This also could be entirely related to site meta. Whatever.

So if teh slot i had repped into had been a town pr rather than a vt. And snow had claimed that would you have still wanted him day one?

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i led the test wagon, was it scum motivated?

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why was it scum motived?

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crazy im drunk and i didnt read all of what u said lol

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"i think snow!scum would have faked a pr claim"
lol ok

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just hammer snow alrdy

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god who isnt voting bob rn let me get someone to hammer

[DkKoba]

For now I am cool with this:

VOTE: jankofan


Also @Billy:
Why is bob town?

I didnt really think snow was scum and the way Bob has come in fits town!Bob. I also am a bit hesitant given how two wagons flashed really fast and a wagon on NPOM can't get off the ground. I also think the way Snow played while you were being wagoned isnt really a scum way to handle that.

wtf is this supposed to mean

[DkKoba]

the only world where i even consider andres to be scum is if they are mechanically confirmed

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or if they live too long lol

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ive been drinking again and

ill hammer janko if he's at E-1 lol bc ya i see he's been pocketing me and his flip gives info regardless but like fuck bob/snow has been so obvious it hurts.

[DkKoba]

give me someone to interact with plsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss drunk!koba can sort slots easy

[DkKoba]

give me someone to interact with plsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss drunk!koba can sort slots easy

Hi, whatcha drinking? I've had three beers and waiting for dinner to finish baking.

cider but also i wanna note taht sober me thinks that u are p blatant scum too lol

[DkKoba]

Dinner is ready. Was hoping for better.

Minus points for drunk Koba

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[DkKoba]

datisi getting willfully pocketed by their friend ); u hate to see it

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why do you think datisi is town?

i'm not saying she's not, but i'd like to hear your reasoning behind it

we can discuss that after u flip scum <3

you are sheeping my townreads but somehow i'm scum

also said townreads are basicly all townreading me but somehow you still think i'm scum

VOTE: dkkoba

lol rereading ico's iso for content abt their snow reads and this post stuck out as extremely hilarious

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anyways lets get Snow
I'll 1000% reconsider junko on d2 but someone whos willing to sheep me even if scum is always useful to me esp since it means if im being pocketed i can live to d2 ):

[DkKoba]

billy why am i scum?

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actually nvm pls keep fosing me i dont wanna be night killed lol

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i deadass tried to trick ppl into hammering bob and no one even noticed that lmao

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who cares abt wagon analyzing when 0 ppl are flipped

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To what

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billy why am i scum?

It shouldn't be about who your first and second choices are, at least at this point, it needs to be about what's going to get town to where it needs to be at this point. DKK is the most likely town at this point what point is there to going against their elimination choice?

Koba is the most vocal. Why the hell does that make them the most likely town?

U think this person townreads me? Lmao

[DkKoba]

billy has shaded me throughout without explicitly saying it

[DkKoba]

The more i read slots i didnt rly care abt the more i get paranoid
i hate starting with 13 ppl and 3 scum id rather solve in only 9 lmao

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and yes i get that now

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tempted to just quickyammer janko and say fuck it

[DkKoba]

intent to potentially randomly hammer on a whim at any time

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Everyone gangsta until the intent to hammer comes in

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i have expressed i think npom is scum earlier and i have not changed that sentiment.

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no, probably not a good idea to do that without intent on him tbh

tho idk how much i'd believe him anyway

i already declared intent

[DkKoba]

VOTE: npom lets see where the folks who say they scumread this slot are. I wanna see something

[DkKoba]

janko has an unknown timer ticking down on him dependant on my mood

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no.

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Billy u didnt even give it time

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Do u want them hanged or no

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okay well I legit think the team are at least two of {Billy, GB, snow and ico} at this point.
I recommend hammering bob, my wagon is the scummier of the two re the people on it for sure which means bob is probs scum
datisi if I get hammered then nice going lol
unsure if there is intent to hammer on me if someone states it I will claim

I did declare intent, i noticed pockety vibes from u early on

[DkKoba]

sometimes u need to hang someone just to prove a point so ppl will listen to u janko so sorry if u do flip town

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if neither datisi or ico die on n1 or n2 then one of them is 100% scum btw

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imma give the npom wagon a chance but if ppl ain't budging ill hammer b4 i go sleep

[DkKoba]

Dkk switching to janko after it was said they'll look less town if Bob flips green doesn't look great on dkk.

if anyone is pocketing anyone its janko pocketing me and they'll learn v fast that is a big mistake bc i will make u spew ur whole scumteam if u pocket me.

ya ok lol

[DkKoba]

not to townslip or anything but i forgot hellbooks was in this game lol

[DkKoba]

now im getting nomination mafia flashbacks ):

[DkKoba]

btw theres a big reason why im pushing a npom wagon rn and it will be obvious to those who reread on d2/d3 if im not around to explain. (if it succeeds ill be happy bc that slot has just been happily skipping along on the sidelines the whole game LOL)

[DkKoba]

aldu give me cross hammer u wont ragret

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well if we get enough ppl to have intent to want to switch to NPOW we can flip the wagon
sorta like ranked choice voting perse

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but i want u to vote bob so i can have hammer on both of them :3

[DkKoba]

"o hey its me"

IS IT WEIRD TO TOWNREAD BASED ON JUST THAT ONE LINE LMFAO

[DkKoba]

well im neither a girl nor a boy so excuse me for not wanting to be misgendered or have to deal with misogyny / transphobia in a game im playing

[DkKoba]

im still waiting to have hammmero n both bob and janko

[DkKoba]

me, hammersitting, knowing its scummy...

cant give a fuck tho bc i want the power

[DkKoba]

aldu plssssssssssssss

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f u

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if janko flips town i wont forgive u

[DkKoba]

quick everyone spam thread so raya doesnt see the vote right away

[DkKoba]

I'm vt you guys suck at mafia : /

if its any condolonces i had no intention on hammering u and was just trying to get other ppl to spew + i heavily PR read u??? so i thought u were claiming pr and we were abt to yeet bob right then and there

[DkKoba]

i hate nighttime when im town bc i have to WAIT

anyways this might be a good time for a reads list from me b4 i die i think bc my thoughts do not always align with my posting.

[DkKoba]

dkkoba - towniest mf here even objectively. dont expect me to last to d2 LOL (yeah im kinda a powerful role here haha )
aldu - u dummy but u spew town tbh

billy - yea yea yea let sgo
andres - tbh i might be getting pocketed but im OK with taht

hellbooks - pure slot ye ye

datisi - if ico flips town u might be scum :3 otherwise u aight... i dont think both u and ico are scum

vp baltar - u kinda sus but theres only 3 scum so may be ur just silly

testa- u have moved up a little but only a little

ico- u too but i still maintain u are actually Scum

bob - sry u subbed into a scum slot lol

npom - ya ya ya get this tomorrow regardless of the flip

[DkKoba]

yeah im chainsawing rn i totally just spewed that janko is flipping town omg .......

i gotta stay alive to get pushed on scum lol!

(i say as if i havent hardclaimed vt already through my over the top wifom)

[DkKoba]

trade secret

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if the night kill is outside:

datisi, me, hellbooks, andres, testa

i will kinda be concerned LOOOOOL

and will immediately be suspicious of one of the slots within that list

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??? i didnt say i sr u

[DkKoba]

its ok one of us 2 are likely getting nightkilled

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only the 5 ppl i listed are actually possible lmao

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well i invite them to so it makes the game easier (: killing outside of those 5 slots makes the game easier for me

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ok now thread is boring can we get it flipped now raya.

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datisi u gonna listen to me now?

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also hold up gotta check who died

[DkKoba]

LOL THEY KILLED GB

[DkKoba]

oh, you weren't interested in following me yesterday either, don't say that like it's something new.

And you can at least own up to you being quite wrong, instead of responding with these snide remarks.

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U know i woulda known b4 checking thread if i was NKed..

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now who at this table wouls have read gb as pr...

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im sorry but i seem to remember offering the npom wagon b4 aldu quickhammered

[DkKoba]

i do still want to flip bob

VOTE: bob

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andres ur the only one here i have locktown tbh so im likliest to listen to u

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assume the moderator suddenly reveals that bob is an IC. where does your head go?

tf kinda hypothetical is this

[DkKoba]

nah i dont think it is and imma keep my analysis wrt to it to myself

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i Vibe well with them

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@DkKoba are you really certain that Datisi is Town here?

andres, this lowkey felt like shade. can you elaborate on your read on me?

well who here is terrible enough to unironically read them as pr lol

[DkKoba]

i disnt mean to quote that whoops

[DkKoba]

can yall stop the scum theater lmfao

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what did i say abt continuing ur scum theater? Stop interacting with each other if ur town bc thats just gonna guarantee i push a hang between yall lmao

[DkKoba]

also im starting to think its datisi who pocketed ico lmfao.

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ok vote bob with me then

[DkKoba]

just like how janko was scum ok then

[DkKoba]

alternatively ill consolidate onto npom but i wanted to push onto bob bc its better info bc of the cross on d1.
VOTE: npom
I actually want to pivot here to see how bob plays it out

[DkKoba]

billy i think that bob/npom were doing scum theater on the last few pages, what do u think of that read?

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since u seem to be focused on those 2 slots

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i think i may be restructuring my reads bc of the nightkill. something something occams razor made me realize something

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also if u nightkill to go for "pr" instead of ppl being read as obv town then ya crazy and 3 people managed to agree to do that part of why i need to rethink things

[DkKoba]

would be crazy if i said it was something like datisi/npom/aldu

[DkKoba]

would be crazy if i said it was something like datisi/npom/aldu

Why those 3? Did aldu even post in here yet?

This gives me "not to towntell but this game started? Lol" vibes since ya know its d2 lmao

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Only short in time today, will try to barf my thoughts into the thread.

GB kill isn't really giving much away. Was only scumread by hellbooks, so maybe they assumed there wasn't much to do with that slot and they chickened out out going for universally townread Datisi (protectives). Plus it's low info concerning the wagons or connections with other players.

There was once an early D1 wagon with 4 votes on him with Aldus, Snow, NPOM and hellbooks which could beg the question how likely it is for scum to hop on an early wagon on town. However only hellbook's vote there was actually serious. Two of these four names could fit very well into my suspect pool though.

Or it really was just a poor PR shot.

u cant nk people who are acum

[DkKoba]

Why is logic towny testa?

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anyways lets get this npom wagon going choo choo mfs

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ok but i can scumread him based on d1 LOL?

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who the fuck looks at the wagons when making a kill?? who tf taught u guys how to play as scum. I mean its clear no one good bc of that terrible night kill regardless but im so glad im not scum with any of yall with those kinds of plays

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using wagon analysis alongside the nightkill is so inane and dumb bc they are clearly independant

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Im not answering questions about hypothetical flip situations lmao

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they're pointless as fuck and u know it

[DkKoba]

alternatively ill consolidate onto npom but i wanted to push onto bob bc its better info bc of the cross on d1.
VOTE: npom
I actually want to pivot here to see how bob plays it out

Hey Koba, remember when you wrote this? This is why I asked about the post flip question. Because you claimed his push was better info. So what info do you get from his respective flips?

??? if they flip town the time to consider that implication is when its proven this is pointless hypotheticals bc theres many factors that occur b4 a flip happen

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ur starting to make me feel like ur scum trying to force pointless conversation LMAO

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i mean we had 7 ppl unironically vote for janko so i mean it already feels like more than 3 people are scum so

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im actually highkey frustrated they got hanged d1.

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Is everyone sleeping or whT?

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anyone i dont scumread? Lol

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imma be real w u i think datisi on rethinking it, has been v sideliney and butting in just to stop pushes for a lot of d1 (from my memory). when even ico is starting to towntell and starts to show paranoia at the datisi slot it gives me pause.

i still dk abt u baltar but if ur scum ur not gonna be the first scum caught if u know what i mean?

the only person im 100% not hanging today is andres and thats for good reason that they are ObvTown.

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sometimes im stubborn and prideful tho and i hate looking at ogi reasoning bc it can be wifomed but occam's razor shows that snow was town w/ their readlist b4 they left game but idk what rules are abt discussing replacement in private scum chats so ??? i just hate havign to see it and have to factor in something that is ogi.....

[DkKoba]

idk mate maybe the fact u were considered the "towniest" and yet u are still alive might be a little scummy to me (: i am always suspicious when towniest players do not die. either it is bc their reads are actually rly wack and scum thinks they can take advantage of it(i ahve been the victim of this but scum usually realize their mistake in keeping me around TOO long by lylo lol)

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so many of my scumreads end up flipping PR i swear

[DkKoba]

but why did u choose baltar? a neighborhood is powerful, i get u wanna use it as a cop action for an uncertain slot but why not some1 like aldu or hellbooks?

[DkKoba]

actually that role sounds way too OP lmfao. i need to look at standard balance on this site bc this isnt at least how i balance setups wrt chat mafia

[DkKoba]

then again it is a schadd setup so who am i to judge

[DkKoba]

imma be real with a role like that if anyone else whos scummy claims pr imma instant hang them

[DkKoba]

occams razor lets go
VOTE: baltar

[DkKoba]

lets force datisi to go to bed by flipping it

[DkKoba]

thsi reminds me of ydrasse in newbie 2003 xDD

[DkKoba]

i was like "lol wtf this person is kinda stinky and different all of a sudden". maybe i need to realized ppl arent able t ogrind setups all day like in chat mafia and be used to most situations in games lol

[DkKoba]

unlucky i was wrong abt baltar being caught scum afterwards LOL

[DkKoba]

so this is where im at tho:

bob is pretty much cleared at this point

andres town AF

me .. i hope ive been obv town.. in 3 scum setups i like to sacrifice myself early to fuck the game state typically

datisi PR

[DkKoba]

thats 40% of the board pretty well off and ik u will prob add ico to that list too

[DkKoba]

dkkoba stop scumreading PRs challenge 2020

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(if u ever read this Clidd im v sorry)

[DkKoba]

more like masonizer amirite

[DkKoba]

baltar would have already claimed their role if they had a role that was compatible with ur claim but also let them be town lol

[DkKoba]

baltar hang machine go brrrrr

[DkKoba]

u know it makes me anxious that both datisi and baltar are interacting with eachother as if they are not conf scum to eachother

[DkKoba]

u know what i think there may be a tracker and mafia know and baltar was indeed on bailey... as the kill

just my ... big brained prediction.

[DkKoba]

datisi did u fake ur report?

[DkKoba]

my big brain is acutally big brain

[DkKoba]

but uhh I think that u still caught scum performing the NK and they knew there was a tracker LMFOA

[DkKoba]

silver lining. this helps my pov .. LOL

[DkKoba]

datisi - pr

baltar - pr

bob - locktown

andres -prob town

me - town

that leaves a 50/50 pool

[DkKoba]

testa's words sound pretty nice and i just cant help but trust them lol

i want to start within hellbooks/aldu with this info

[DkKoba]

he's locktown based on the other factors i listed outside of the baltar thing

[DkKoba]

why are u overreacting so much just literlaly scumhunt. this nerfs us only wrt nightkills

[DkKoba]

my reads aren't static nor did i say they were town i just said i cant help but trust them

[DkKoba]

why? do you scumread them?

[DkKoba]

im willing to let it sort out on d3 tbh

[DkKoba]

datisi u should consider though that a mafia role cop would have been possible

[DkKoba]

2 inv roles that can catch separate scum tho.. that seems.... a bit off

[DkKoba]

hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm my brain!

[DkKoba]

im gonna think on it overnight and @ work but i need to envision a balance with a setup like that. perhaps ninja modifiers in play?? idk we need a flipped scum thats PR so we can see

[DkKoba]

VOTE: hellbooks im just going to park my vote here for now.

[DkKoba]

what posts from testarossa do you trust?

please answer koba

brain empty no answer tonight. i only deal in vibes and testa's recent posts give me good vibes and that is all u will get for now. in case u havent noticed i play emotionally and by tone, which actually is a very weak reading style over forums which i feel may be why i have struggled immensely, whereas chat mafia i can still use that to my advantage ya dig.

but i do have good vibes abt testa so they are probably flipping scum so kms ? lol
refer to my previous vote where i think scum is likely located within my 6 person pool though

[DkKoba]

what posts from testarossa do you trust?

please answer koba

brain empty no answer tonight. i only deal in vibes and testa's recent posts give me good vibes and that is all u will get for now. in case u havent noticed i play emotionally and by tone, which actually is a very weak reading style over forums which i feel may be why i have struggled immensely, whereas chat mafia i can still use that to my advantage ya dig.

but i do have good vibes abt testa so they are probably flipping scum so kms ? lol
refer to my previous vote where i think scum is likely located within my 6 person pool though

[DkKoba]

quick lets vote for datisi so they dont have to think anymore

[DkKoba]

twas a joke lmao

[DkKoba]

if there is a fake pr between these 2 claims its 100% baltar and if its lylo and datisi dies im voting for baltar at daystart

[DkKoba]

Odds of two people visiting VP night one are pretty low I would say. So I'm willing to bet that VP did, in fact visit GB. VP has always been high on my red list so.

VOTE: VP Baltar

im not sure if the way this was misworded is a slip or

[DkKoba]

my brain is like npom is playing way too naive/ignorant to be scum LOL like this dude clearly not informed of anything

[DkKoba]

what if npom is mafia and mafia just kicked npom out of the scum chat lole

[DkKoba]

andres...........

[DkKoba]

why bob

[DkKoba]

ico u know that we just hang baltar if he doesnt die tonight right?

[DkKoba]

im not interested in hanging a role that can be sorted later lmao.

[DkKoba]

ico u know that we just hang baltar if he doesnt die tonight right?

scenario: datisi dies baltar lives

what you do

Did i stutter?

[DkKoba]

if i die, nobody touches baltar. don't even look at him the wrong way.

No <3

[DkKoba]

Also choo choo where my hellbooks votes at. The resistance to get this is too great

[DkKoba]

imma be real that aldu feels like scum more and more as the game progesses too but ppl wanna townread them! Alas.

[DkKoba]

If we flip hellbooks over Bob or even NPOM, I’m going to bang my head against a wall.

I didn't trust VP day 1 after the initial snow wagon

WHO DO YOU THINK REPLACED SNOW AND WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR.


I literally cannot even.

Lol

[DkKoba]

do yall rly think npom is playing informed rn lol

[DkKoba]

do yall rly think npom is playing informed rn lol

What if theyre traitor? Legit serious question. They sure as hell ain't playing townie.

This implies that either theres 3 scum 1 traitor which is hella strong or 2 scum 1 traitor.

Both would be far fetched wrt balance i feel?? Idk lol.

I definitely do want to flip aldu today if possible

[DkKoba]

I think aldu panicked when i asked him to give me hammer idk. I dont have scum bob off the table but snow gave me town vibes and reexamining their scummy part it was more noob town kinda stuff

[DkKoba]

koba, brain turned on enough to describe the testarossa townread?

Their recent activity implies game solving. Being fillery-> game solvy tone implies town while the opposite implies scum if u kmow what i mean?

[DkKoba]

hi everyone super busy but def will post before i go to bed tonight anyway hope youre having a good time xoxo much love

slank more pls <3 .<3

[DkKoba]

because they ended the day rather than give me the power (:

[DkKoba]

U dont know what i would have done

[DkKoba]

:/

[DkKoba]

y does it feel like im the only one whos not a claimed pr rly trying

[DkKoba]

i rly dunno man. like snow left a reads list right b4 they left and that feels town motivated LOL


like deadass thats the one thing stopping me. i dont see snow being big brained like that to do that and they seemed to be mostly riding solo so that implies a small brain scumteam to me if bob is scum.

[DkKoba]

y o !

hello mafia (:

[DkKoba]

yoink

[DkKoba]

u are now taunting me bc everyone is townreading u for some reason

[DkKoba]

No <3

[DkKoba]

ur vibes have been off since day 2 has started

[DkKoba]

my solve has evolved into : aldu / hellbooks / ico

[DkKoba]

ok so? everything u literally just said is easily refuted by the fact that : ppl evolve their gameplay over time and are not static

[DkKoba]

like ur deadass using a game from over 8 months ago like stop lmfao