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In post 197, Servant Avenger wrote:That is really suspicious to me archer.

ok but why

Read the argument. It’s page 8, you said you wanted to make yourself useful.
So reading it and discovering why voting for foreigner is a million times better than voting for assassin if your goal is to vote obvious town that is in your interest.

Foreigner I don’t know how to speak to you in such a way as to tell you what my attribute is without giving it away to mafia.
I now want to give it to you, but I don’t want to ask about things like when you can use your ability by etc because that gives scum a good target with a deadline attached.
Can you help me think of a safe wya to do this?

I don't want your attribute because I think you are town.
I appreciate your support though.

In post 202, Servant Avenger wrote:Read the argument. It’s page 8, you said you wanted to make yourself useful.
So reading it and discovering why voting for foreigner is a million times better than voting for assassin if your goal is to vote obvious town that is in your interest.

That really doesn't answer my question about why I am suspicious for choosing assassin.
I still don't really feel like reading it, but I think it would be helpful if you explained your read on foreigner based on the argument.

In post 188, Servant Archer wrote:

In post 115, Servant Alter Ego wrote:I like Berserker's push, and I like Foreigner's reaction to it.

I can see this conflict blowing the thread up for a few days, unfortunately.

Anything specific because that's a little vague and could be why I'm scumreading you. Thankfully hasn't really dominated the thread too much.

Specific about why I like the push and reaction? Because they both make sense coming from town, based on what I can discern of personalities. Of the two, the lesser townread is Berserk, but that may be my reaction to his bombast and my dislike of 1v1s. As the interaction went on, I wanted to just disengage from the game for a while and hope it dissipates.

Why didn't you ask Lancer why they thought you were scum? hmm

To see where they went with it, and if there were signs of opportunism. When they did engage at my invitation, the substance didn't ring terribly opportunistic.

In post 205, Servant Archer wrote:

In post 202, Servant Avenger wrote:Read the argument. It’s page 8, you said you wanted to make yourself useful.
So reading it and discovering why voting for foreigner is a million times better than voting for assassin if your goal is to vote obvious town that is in your interest.

That really doesn't answer my question about why I am suspicious for choosing assassin.
I still don't really feel like reading it, but I think it would be helpful if you explained your read on foreigner based on the argument.

1. He revealed information about the game as you mentioned. In a way that scum would not and in a way that scum in his/her pt would coach him how to do.
2. He mentioned he could out the attributes of select players he already knows the attributes of, this would typically be a threat, but it’s actually kind of obvious town because if he wanted to threaten us with this information he would just give it to his scum partners instead in his PT.
3. He’s talking to me like he’s on the level.

Foreigner 204 makes me like you for town but I don't know if revealing that was a good idea. Maybe stop?

Hello everyone, I have listened to the requests of the crowd and reread my role pm.
I do not want to have my "with a master" bonus this game.

Mine is more quality of life to make my mini quest happen easier. But a big brainer like myself does not need the handicap Cabd is attempting to give me.

In post 209, Servant Foreigner wrote:Hello everyone, I have listened to the requests of the crowd and reread my role pm.
I do not want to have my "with a master" bonus this game.

Mine is more quality of life to make my mini quest happen easier. But a big brainer like myself does not need the handicap Cabd is attempting to give me.

I am aware I am talking too much about role things.
But I do not want someone to do me a favor and end up just using a power sub optimally.

Avenger, that still doesn't address my question of WHY you found me suspicious for not wanting to read the argument. Also, you sorta implied that Foreigner was townie for his exchange with Beserker, so I was looking more for stuff from there.

In post 206, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Because they both make sense coming from town, based on what I can discern of personalities. Of the two, the lesser townread is Berserk, but that may be my reaction to his bombast and my dislike of 1v1s. As the interaction went on, I wanted to just disengage from the game for a while and hope it dissipates.

Ok, I actually think I want to reread this later for some reason now. I can sympathize with your last sentence though. I'm wondering if the root of the argument ever got resolved? Hm.

What invitiation? I can sorta see what you mean, but still sorta meh too.

In post 211, Servant Archer wrote:What invitiation?

Post 182

In post 211, Servant Archer wrote:Avenger, that still doesn't address my question of WHY you found me suspicious for not wanting to read the argument. Also, you sorta implied that Foreigner was townie for his exchange with Beserker, so I was looking more for stuff from there.

In post 206, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Because they both make sense coming from town, based on what I can discern of personalities. Of the two, the lesser townread is Berserk, but that may be my reaction to his bombast and my dislike of 1v1s. As the interaction went on, I wanted to just disengage from the game for a while and hope it dissipates.

Ok, I actually think I want to reread this later for some reason now. I can sympathize with your last sentence though. I'm wondering if the root of the argument ever got resolved? Hm.

What invitiation? I can sorta see what you mean, but still sorta meh too.

Not reading specific sections of the game for vague reasons that could help you determine someone’s alignment is something push worthy in my eyes because it makes it easier to just say “I didn’t read that part” when someone asks how could you think they’re scum/town with those post. Especially when someone I think is town gets passed over for someone who is a null read to me with significantly fewer posts.

Well, I wasn't expecting a 1v1 this early. Glad it stopped fairly quickly.

You rang, Alter Ego?

In post 214, Servant Rider wrote:Well, I wasn't expecting a 1v1 this early. Glad it stopped fairly quickly.

You rang, Alter Ego?

I did! Are you caught up? I'm curious about your thoughts on the game.

In post 186, Servant Caster wrote:Am I really going to have to argue with a serious contingent arguing we shouldn't just give it to the towniest player to keep it away from scum?

Saber, your post makes it sound like you have plenty of reads, so do you have any thoughts to share?

In post 199, Servant Caster wrote:If I had to vote right now, I'd be between Archer and Alter Ego. And myself, obviously. But I don't have to vote right now.

How the hell do you have me as one of the towniest players?

I did catch up, yes! I must admit it was a bit of a struggle getting through the 1v1. My cliff notes are kind of as follows:

I like Caster, Alter Ego, Archer, Foreigner. None of them are super strong townreads (in fact I don't really have any super duper strong reads)
I at one point liked Lancer, but that's degraded a fair bit.
I keep thinking I should have a more solid read on Avenger given their number of posts, but I don't. I'll revisit them later.
Berserker, where to start with this one. I don't like his style, certainly. Do I scumread him for it? Not particularly.

Who's left? Saber - that entry post was yuck. Certainly interested to see where they go.
Actually I'll add Assassin to the like list. A bit abrasive, but they're okay.

This should give us a place to start.

In post 216, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 186, Servant Caster wrote:Am I really going to have to argue with a serious contingent arguing we shouldn't just give it to the towniest player to keep it away from scum?

Saber, your post makes it sound like you have plenty of reads, so do you have any thoughts to share?

In post 199, Servant Caster wrote:If I had to vote right now, I'd be between Archer and Alter Ego. And myself, obviously. But I don't have to vote right now.

How the hell do you have me as one of the towniest players?

I liked that you felt fine admitting that you don't really have your head in the game yet. I liked 78 and 193. A third reason I'll keep to myself.

@Caster, last role fishing question I promise.

Were you given the choice of 3/4 star servants in the pregame?
This is important for my quest.

In post 219, Servant Foreigner wrote:@Caster, last role fishing question I promise.

Were you given the choice of 3/4 star servants in the pregame?
This is important for my quest.

Stop. Please. Everyone in the game was allowed to choose any rarity servant in their class.

What Rider said. I didn't notice they had star values until you asked me this question.

In post 217, Servant Rider wrote:I did catch up, yes! I must admit it was a bit of a struggle getting through the 1v1. My cliff notes are kind of as follows:

I like Caster, Alter Ego, Archer, Foreigner. None of them are super strong townreads (in fact I don't really have any super duper strong reads)
I at one point liked Lancer, but that's degraded a fair bit.
I keep thinking I should have a more solid read on Avenger given their number of posts, but I don't. I'll revisit them later.
Berserker, where to start with this one. I don't like his style, certainly. Do I scumread him for it? Not particularly.

Who's left? Saber - that entry post was yuck. Certainly interested to see where they go.
Actually I'll add Assassin to the like list. A bit abrasive, but they're okay.

This should give us a place to start.

I'm having a little bit of trouble attaching Avenger's posts to their avatar in my mind. That's probably a sign that they've not stood out to me enough yet, though I did like their first few posts, the way they entered the game.

I need to solidify a read on Lancer. I'm giving them towncredit for scumreading me, and that's not a good basis for a read.

In post 218, Servant Caster wrote:

In post 216, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 186, Servant Caster wrote:Am I really going to have to argue with a serious contingent arguing we shouldn't just give it to the towniest player to keep it away from scum?

Saber, your post makes it sound like you have plenty of reads, so do you have any thoughts to share?

In post 199, Servant Caster wrote:If I had to vote right now, I'd be between Archer and Alter Ego. And myself, obviously. But I don't have to vote right now.

How the hell do you have me as one of the towniest players?

I liked that you felt fine admitting that you don't really have your head in the game yet. I liked 78 and 193. A third reason I'll keep to myself.

eh. I'm not really sure what to think of that as a read basis.

Sifting back through, near these posts, I realized I'd confused an Archer post for a Lancer one. I'm going to have to reread tonight and see if the avatars and identities have gelled for me.

It's page 9, my choices are shaky reasons or no reads at all.