Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[Noraa]

ABR and Johnny are both in my town block. you really think even if you flipped green, I would reconsider that?
I think ur purposefully guiding me nowhere that way your red flip gives us no new information

[Noraa]

god damnit I didnt even realize that was a page top.

[Noraa]

i mean i already made it p clear what i thought of your townbloc

i'm telling you that you should not flip iks tomorrow
again if i flip scum (which is not going to happen) feel free to ignore me
i'm writing this because i *am* going to flip town and i'm telling you that iks is town and i want you to listen tomorrow

if you really flip town, I shall rethink my decision to lim iks. I don't see why town!you would be so confident in another player's towniness considering iks has not been towny at all this game. my SR is not entirely based off of that but I definitely think u and IKS' partner equity is what would drive a IKS lim tomorrow should you flip red. If you flip green, IKS alone doesn't look that bad tbh. I still don't think ur gonna flip green tho so :/

nora is scum i think

lel way to just pop that out of nowhere. u better explain cuz I still think ur slot's town

ur tone sucks

*tumbleweed*
that's it?

[Noraa]

I am on break at work im gonna try to figure out mechs rn lmao
i think day 4 if we dont get scum today we should out all our actions and what we've done. Logically its going to be hard for scum to fake their own actions. This is a mech heavy game and im going to solve relying on mechs. Sad that bingle got hanged early cause i heard hes v good at mechs. Im gonna look at the wagon there later.

uh. there's been zero nightkills so its still basically like ... the equivalent of like ... day 2 ish

[Noraa]

if you really flip town, I shall rethink my decision to lim iks. I don't see why town!you would be so confident in another player's towniness considering iks has not been towny at all this game. my SR is not entirely based off of that but I definitely think u and IKS' partner equity is what would drive a IKS lim tomorrow should you flip red. If you flip green, IKS alone doesn't look that bad tbh. I still don't think ur gonna flip green tho so :/

because they've been townie, i've been saying this for like a week tho ...

but we agree that when (if i guess from your pov) i flip green your reasoning to vote iks vanishes, right?

ok how does my greenflip affect your read on abr?

no. it does not but it makes my SR there much weaker and I likely won't push that wagon the next day unless there's a really big reason to.

whos the non skitterz slot in fun n games

Pooky ^^

oh nooooooo poor pooky u landed a scum role

[Noraa]

lol i reskimmed ydrasse and this is not her town game

I really wanna tunnel this slot cuz they r so damn scummy with those one sentence "explanations" but ik this is town so I'm holding it in.

[Noraa]

Dkkoba what did you do last night? Gamma said you .... destroyed a lab?

[Noraa]

no. it does not but it makes my SR there much weaker and I likely won't push that wagon the next day unless there's a really big reason to.

ok now let's get to the abr bit

and @johnny i wanna talk to you

~ skitter

u flipping town would not change my read on ABR

[Noraa]

No mention of ABR is strange

[Noraa]

ohhh didnt notice that. But what I did notice was that Lavar directly sheeped town consensus reads and basically called everyone that isnt universally SRed town

[Noraa]

yeah at this rate I don't think its really possible for F&G to flip green.

[Noraa]

yeah at this rate I don't think its really possible for F&G to flip green.

After our flip i want you to come back to this page and review these takeways:

Town: penguin, iks, gamma
Scum: abr

where'd scummy scum scum Johnny go?

[Noraa]

gamma

[Noraa]

F&G is the one that thinks Johnny is scum, not me.

[Noraa]

If F&G flips red(most likely will happen), IKS is one of the buddies
If not, I'd still like to look into a pool of {cake, penguin, lavar}

[Noraa]

If F&G is green, I might hold off on my SR on IKS

[Noraa]

Lavar is big

Johnny u agree with my suspicions on Lavar?

[Noraa]

why is that?

[Noraa]

btw IKS said they attacked me last night. how come it is not reflected in my numbers? O_o

[Noraa]

DKKoba why am I scum?

[Noraa]

pagetop

[Noraa]

wait nuu T^T

[Noraa]

I feel this on a spiritual level rn

[Noraa]

If this heavily SRed slot is scum, holy fuck I'm glad I didn't replace in for them. I remember seeing the Pine slot up for sale and being like nah too many games. I still ended up replacing into a slot but lel Ydrasse's is good. I like it

I have two actions tonight bc my speed is *finally* 4 :O

[Noraa]

Pine wagon was all consuming yesterday.

Also this town has been eating it's own tail and an absent scum explains that in part.

I mean I somewhat agree but also like ... my slot was basically a lurker as well so idk how much I'm willing to bet all lurkers here are scum.

[Noraa]

hmm do uk if pine likes being scum? Ik meta can be bs but it might be somewhat helpful here.

[Noraa]

Im off to bed rn but I'll definitely read up tomorrow.

[Noraa]

As for why I'm town: DK, I healed you back to having 3 knowledge and I gave Gamma the items to stat boost to destroy the labs

please heal gamma tonight.

Idk I haven't played with anyone here but Albert and that was literal years ago

oh

mod v/la til wedjesday

The revolver thing?

ye

If F&G flips town I would probably go to ABR and Noraa next

you keep doing a ton of preflip analysis which just feels like scum setting up chain lims atm. And saying these today means tomorrow you can be like tee hee look at me I suggested this the day before. I was scum hunting therefore I get +++town points.

i dont understand this mentality that they are confirmed scum can someone tell me why

We were the cw to bingle yesterday so i ~kinda~ get it but i dont ger how people are acting like we're guaranteed to flip scum and wont engage with me about what to do *after* we flip green

Like i'm not even trying to get people to vote elsewhere today, but articulate where they go next

if you were really green, rn u would write a wall about what we need to do once you flip green not whine and say why is everyone not talking to me.

Sircakez can i get you to commit to reconsidering abr tomorrow (upon our townflip, etc)

wtf. the plentiful interaction between F&G and cake will make me drop an SR on cake if F&G flips red bc it just feels like a scum setting a townie up to be their "buddy"

[Noraa]

you keep doing a ton of preflip analysis which just feels like scum setting up chain lims atm. And saying these today means tomorrow you can be like tee hee look at me I suggested this the day before. I was scum hunting therefore I get +++town points.

F&G has basically been begging for it

you were so convinced they were town yesterday

[Noraa]

F&G scum = Cake town
F&G town = Cake tbd

[Noraa]

wtf. the plentiful interaction between F&G and cake will make me drop an SR on cake if F&G flips red bc it just feels like a scum setting a townie up to be their "buddy"

And how is this any different than sircakez 'chaining lims', exactly?

very different. Cake is saying if u flip green, the limpool is only {this}

[Noraa]

F&G stop interacting with me. I don't think I will be getting anything useful out of a scum right before they die. If you flip town, I will reassess. That's as much as you're getting.

[Noraa]

you keep doing a ton of preflip analysis which just feels like scum setting up chain lims atm. And saying these today means tomorrow you can be like tee hee look at me I suggested this the day before. I was scum hunting therefore I get +++town points.

F&G has basically been begging for it

you were so convinced they were town yesterday

Yeah but they have been not great today and Bingle town flip implies scum F&G since they were the other wagon

Incorrect. You started hinting that you would jump on F&G today when Bingle wagon hadn't even gone thru yet. Thats what I mean by u setting up chain lims. I take it back. If F&G is town, you set up chain lims. Partner equity is high but I don't really see it so if F&G is red, ur still green. If not, ur red.

F&G town = Cake tbd

A friendly reminder that I wounded you.

what does wounding do? my stats are still the same...

[Noraa]

IKS I swear to god if ur town, ur so *sigh* I don't even know what to say if ur town. that's just disappointing and town's fucked with a townie that just goes around and wounds the rest of town. You wounded me with a revolver eh? what if I steal it?

[Noraa]

I do not like Lavar sheeping consensus reads. Like its not even like light sheeping. Its like copy paste level sheeping which is just ... no.
I really dislike how Lavar TRs everyone that isnt universally TRed. Its impossible there are only two scums in a mini especially one where all the damn townies are prs(basically)

Lavar isnt making reads. Lavar is just sheeping reads and somehow managing to make them look terribly scummy. Literally is asking for 3-4 SRs that hard? Like I, myself already have 4 :/

[Noraa]

im not taking any questions, this is a waste of my time

yeah iks is a great lim for tomorrow imo. lets get this day over with and kill iks tomorrow.

[Noraa]

If anyone wants to, I can attack IKS twice tonight and someone else could finish him off.

[Noraa]

No ABR not u bc u have an ability and u shouldn't waste it while I use mine up tonight.

[Noraa]

I can only attack twice tonight for certain reasons. someone else that doesn't have much use for their one action tonight should do the last attack.

[Noraa]

I can't attack 3 times until my speed is really high

[Noraa]

well if one of his stats reaches 0, he'll die

[Noraa]

we don't need to use ur vig ability

[Noraa]

Unless your career or an item allows it you can't attack multiple times a night

my career lets me do two attacks or more technically depending on stuff:D

If iks is implicated from a fng hang why not get iks? Whats scummier abt f+g?

yeah IKS is implicated by a F&G hang. It doesn't work the other way around so we are not limming IKS today.

[Noraa]

If iks is implicated from a fng hang why not get iks? Whats scummier abt f+g?

IKS is hard townread by F+G which I think is townie now that you brought it up. Do you think a scum would be hard townreading a potential counterwagon? I'm not sure; it could just be more mind games.

lel why wouldn't scum do that?

[Noraa]

Scum roomblocked gym N1.
Good luck controlling people with 4 speed (they have 2 actions).

incorrect. you need a specific career(my career) for that to work.

[Noraa]

tomorrow we 100% massclaim actions and start to direct things. If anyone deviates thats scum.

no its not "if anyone disagrees with me they are scum"

[Noraa]

the more u speak the more i want u to see rope

I could say the same to you

[Noraa]

can we pls flip this wagon to nora theyre obv scum ffs lmfao. Their reaction to my increasing scumread was to try to say im scum when they know im mechanically psuedoclear

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO why is this the funniest thing that's happened all game long? Ur "increasing scum read" just sounded like a joke to me honestly. You had zero evidence to back it up. There wasn't even an attempt made to find evidence. It was like "Noraa is scum. The reason for why she's scum is because she is scum"

Its mechanically indicative bc theyre defensive asf to the point where they omgus clears.
Their previous slot was doing the scum thing of being all questiony and such like puffing air etc

idk how to explain but i can just feel thats not ydrasse being town

uh

[Noraa]

VOTE: Noraa

lel yet another person with zero evidence to support a SR on me.

[Noraa]

I will be attacking IKS twice tonight. Who wants to kill him off? Not ABR cuz I dont want him to use his ability on IKS tonight cuz I understand its pretty powerful and IKS will already be half dead bc of me anyways.

[Noraa]

Noraa why are you getting pissy that two people are pushing you? And one is probably the most universally scumread player.

cuz they're being so stupid about these SRs. Literally get some sort of evidence at least -____________-

[Noraa]

rich coming from u

[Noraa]

Spoiler:

VOTE: pine

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Johnny
Pine L-2
Johnny L-3

VOTE: abr

VOTE: Chara Dreemurr

VOTE: Bingle
Not fully caught up and will not be able to do till Friday.

VOTE: Bingle
Not fully caught up and will not be able to do till Friday.

Not caught up but ur just gonna vote the leading wagon. Nice. Into the SRs u go.

VOTE: Noraa

No, I am not scum with Fun and Games. I would still like to hammer Bingle because it looks like he is at L-1, but now I am doubting myself.

We don't have time for this. We have the votes for FG. You need to vote there now.

I don't want FG lynch now.
VOTE: Bingle

do you have any evidence supporting any of your SRs or votes?

[Noraa]

This is just sad honestly. whatever. We kill F&G today and rid ourselves of one scum. Someone else and I kill IKS tonight and most likely hit a scum there as well. Then we work from there.

DKKoba is just bad town. Doctors wouldn't attack their own most likely. Tho I must say that after this argument's been used, we can't use it much more cuz scums might try to be smart about it.
Johnny and ABR are likely town. Both vibe with me well and I agree with most of what they say and I'm fairly certain they feel somewhat the same.
Cake and Penguin r EH. Idk light scumreads.
Cake and F&G are most likely opposite alignments tho so that'll depend heavily on F&G's flip
Lavar is pretty scummy. Not sure if that slot is scum but there's a fairly high likelihood that slot is indeed scum.
cMod and gamma r pretty conftown
I dont think I missed anyone but its possible I did. I think I covered everyone tho

[Noraa]

tomorrows limpool assuming that the lim today is F&G and we successfully kill IKS at night: {cake, penguin, lavar}

[Noraa]

Noraa.

Do you have any completed town-games where you are super confident about an SR and you push it the way you do now and you were right?

~Pooky

I pushed the last scum to hell and back in Ancient Arthropods and it lead to a town victory. I was JKer that game.

[Noraa]

I also hammered the first scum that game

[Noraa]

In my last town game, Roses, I had the right solve at the beginning but then got lead lead astray. I pushed one of the scums to his death. The other got replaced and I got lost.

[Noraa]

I only have two finished town games and that was a brief overview of both. I've tunneled town before, no doubt but I've tunneled scum hard before and won games for it.

[Noraa]

btw can you un-vote me I'm not a bad guy :3

Pooky we friends but like ... no. if ur town, u can yell at skitter post game for being scummy but I have high doubts that ur slot is town atm.

You seem to change your mind multiple times, you are constantly moving your vote around, engaging with different people and have lots of opinions about who scum is in that game - you were town.

Here in this game you are death-tunneled on my slot without even really considering that you could be wrong and you are incredibly confident to a degree that seems fake. Reading your town ISO above, I find you to be much more open-minded in your town-game as opposed to here.

~Pooky

Well as JKer, I had night actions that helped me Poe(especially since I hammered scum d1 so there was 1 scum left) so that changed my reads around a bit. Here I cannot just jail someone and be like eyyy ok they clear. Also in that game, I tunneled in on a vanilla townie really hard(not sci). I untunneled only because the other leading wagon at E-1 claimed JKer so I hammered him. Tunneling is NAI. Plus my most recent scum game, I tunneled a vanilla townie so hard, I came somewhat close to making us lose the game.

Dk and Noraa stop fighting pls, you're both town, and scum are trying to let you rip each other apart while they walk free

nora is scum

Wrong. And even if she is, it’s not where we should

ever

be looking today.

fine lets get lavar then

why u listen to gamma so much?

[Noraa]

i think lavar is the best elim today btw bc i think they are scummy and they have 4 knowledge which can help scum activate a lab.

terrible reasoning...

[Noraa]

My knowledge hasn't been attacked yet :O

[Noraa]

I have also said this. You saying my reasons are bad too???

lavar is not the best lim today and that's the problem with the reasons.

[Noraa]

I’d rather me and/or DK try to destroy the lab since we at least have decent odds of that while opening the vault is gonna be a challenge for us
Meanwhile your knowledge would easily destroy the lab but you at least have decent odds of opening the vault
And scum can also INCREASE THEIR OWN KNOWLEDGE with their operate action so opening the vault now versus later is advised

who is you? Johnny?

[Noraa]

nora why are u so defensive of lavar?

no one is defensive of lavar. F&G is just very noticeably the best lim today. If you drive a ABR lim thru and he flips green, I'm gonna literally struggle so bad with not fucking attacking you twice tonight. If he flips red, eh ok ur fine then. Tho I do highly doubt he'll flip red atm.

so basically um..

hey im clear pls sheep me im conf town thanks :3

not how it works.

how do u know they can self operate? Lol

I hope you realize that you don't sound less scummy in any way, shape, or form.

Im basically conf town. Items have no action limit. We should be pooling items into people who are clear. We can plan ans control the game.

I don't see how you dying and scums taking all our items is a good plan honestly.

[Noraa]

Looking thru Johnny's vote count collection, dayum almost everyone has voted my slot before. And Bingle was big on voting my slot too.

[Noraa]

CMOD listen to me. heal gamma tonight. we gotta make sure our conftowns don't die otherwise we'll be screwed with only people like IKS and DK here

[Noraa]

Sadly mine is a once per game ability :'(

god fuck. Ok lemme try to think of how to save gamma. I think I might have an idea.

[Noraa]

Guess what

chicken butt

[Noraa]

"piss off, pengu" - Gamma

there, gamma we all gucci now?

[Noraa]

Im not that convinced Pengu is scum anymore but I feel like it has something to do with how lurky he is. The less present he is in the thread, the less I think about him and the more likely he is to be dropped from my reads.

[Noraa]

lmao this page take an eternity to load

[Noraa]

haha ur fine. We can just call this the cursed page and be done with it

[Noraa]

^Cmod is conftown so stop

[Noraa]

You are being a noob

this is rude. stop.

[Noraa]

Scum cant come after me or else they will be found out.

if you die, aint no one gonna find out. Plus sacking one scum to get all of the items is 100% a fair deal if we wanna look at it from that perspective

[Noraa]

They can also have bad reads so stop

you cannot talk on this matter as none of your reads have been well justified

[Noraa]

right doesn't mean you can be rude.

[Noraa]

Personal attacks are not allowed. I have a lower tolerance than most

[Noraa]

DK you can't expect town's main priority to be keeping you alive. To be absolutely honest, I couldn't care less if you got nk'ed cuz I don't feel you help the game state much anyways. I know you are town cuz ur basically conftown bc of what happened to ur predecessor but losing a conftown that's not even helping us isn't the worst thing that could happen.

[Noraa]

outing isnt gonna help anyone here anyways :/

[Noraa]

I was trying to bait an attack from all scum

if u got attacked three times ... u would be dead and u would know who the scums are but you wouldn't be able to tell anyone.

[Noraa]

boop

[Noraa]

boop

[Noraa]

damnit I thought it was close to pagetop

[Noraa]

well ur plan doesn't work if u die is what I'm saying

[Noraa]

and you have not accounted for that possibility in ur plan so yeah ur plan's nor gonna work unless you can account for all possibilities

[Noraa]

no. your plan has too many flaws. that is why town's not willing to do it.

[Noraa]

well if scums all gave you items as well, wouldn't we be lead nowhere?

[Noraa]

there are still many flaws in this plan. too many uncertainties along with the fact that we don't know what careers the scum team has

[Noraa]

uh ... so?

[Noraa]

plus if one townie has an item that they need for some reason or another what would you do?

I mean everyone has careers and god knows maybe someone needs an item for certain reasons and can't give it to you or tell you in the thread because of certain reasons. then what?

[Noraa]

all careers arw from the same pool scum and town therss 0 way they can bypass it unless they had some stronger vig ability than albert has

except you kept saying Albert was scum. so why's he town now?

[Noraa]

I don't think I need to present an alternative to not do your plan

[Noraa]

I think we can win without having to use this plan that imo still has lots of flaws

[Noraa]

HA. its contagious lel

[Noraa]

I like plans.
Plans are like shortcuts - they always work.

this is so wrong.

[Noraa]

I'll say it like this DK
I cannot give you an item if I have one

Not too interested in having scums know whether or not I have an item so that's that. I might have an item and if I do, there's a reason I won't give it to you or I just don't have an item. I don't want to clarify as to leave the scums hanging.

[Noraa]

do yall really not see nora in panic mode flailing abt a potential plan that will fuck scum up like crying about an unknown factor they made up?

I ABSOLUTELY see that

[Noraa]

I may have something to work off of Dk's ability with but a) I need the answer to my last question to not be a certain thing and b) I need someone I can trust that can live through the night

I can live thru the night but I doubt you trust me. Go with Cmod.

[Noraa]

F&G ur reads change around so much

[Noraa]

each time ur SRs are different

[Noraa]

also just wanna make sure i get this out:

town: penguin, iks, sircakez

lesser town: gamma, nos, cmod

null: chara/pine
scum-ish: abr, johnny
scum: bingle

noraa: probalby bad town

but they're playstyle is remarkably annoying

i'm not sure gamma actually knows what he thinks or can articulate his scum!us or not-scum!bingle position

~ skitter

I was "bad town" back when you were still interested in pocketing me. Plus all our conftowns happen to be listed as "lesser town"

Fair enough
I'm basically kinda reading it as too scummy to be scum

Also noting that noraa's pocket/egregious townreading of abr thing would be wild if they were partners and i'm scumreading both of them

Like there's several anti-parner-y interactions with people i *strongly* scumread

sure dropped this fast.

hello

Cmod and Noraa are probly both bad

because they knew the scum would not roomblock the gym so they went there. a normal townie-thought process is usually not to go waste their 1 nightaction on the place that got blocked last night.

After we flip town should go there.

I think you guys should wagon us faster so we do not have to post here anymore thanks :3


~Not-Skitter

our conftown was a SR at one point lmaooo


And many others

[Noraa]

your reads are terribly inconsistent

[Noraa]

^@ F&G

[Noraa]

why is it silly? my ability can only be used if my speed is 4 or over

[Noraa]

So what if it was roleblocked the night before?

link to VC on this page

[Noraa]

there was nothing better for me to do anyways

[Noraa]

hehe I stealies a page top

[Noraa]

why is it silly? my ability can only be used if my speed is 4 or over

Whats ur ability

assassin

[Noraa]

F&G did you ever claim a career?

[Noraa]

Yeah prolly not voting noraa. None of this is new information.

observative

[Noraa]

Don't say that. In case doctors purposefully mess with him to set him up tmrw, that'd be bad.
This is the plan imo
Lavar give ABR the weapon
ABR kill Lavar tonight. I can provide an extra attack to make sure it goes thru but this way I still get two night actions. One attack and one other action.

[Noraa]

*ABR kill IKS tonight

[Noraa]

what did he even do last night? sorry I forgot

link to VC on this page

[Noraa]

Oh naw I'd rather Lavar

why?

[Noraa]

It is the best plan for tonight.

[Noraa]

I doubt he would give ABR a weapon if he knew ABR was gonna kill him with it :/

[Noraa]

Holy fuck I came back to like 7 pages of reading

caught up for the most part. Im not quoting stuff. Takes too long:/
F&G, buddying DK rn is not going to save you I hope you realize

2880 uhhhhhhhh every wagon needs majority vote to go thru. by ur logic all wagons that go thru are town wagons:/

IKS's "scum slip" likely isnt even a scumslip. Mini normals always have 3 scums from my experience so I would almost say its a townslip. The problem is that with all the townies being prs, I feel like its somewhat possible for there to be 4 scums so if there are 4 scums yeah it was a scumslip. prob is that idk how many there are so I can't put my finger on whether this is a scum or town slip.

Cake is right. we r going in circles.

2912, 2913, 2919
seriously wtf?

2931 see DK you are claiming I am scum and then going to find the reasons. Thats where you are failing badly.

When in the fuck did ABR ever IIoa?

Gamma they claim I go "la la la I'm not listening" when they are the ones doing it.

[Noraa]

Let me go check if Ydrasse has perviously said what our day 0 action was.
My day 1 and 2 were definitely announced by me already
day 1: gym blocked
day 2: gym not blocked

[Noraa]

Ydrasse did not reveal what our night 0 action is.

[Noraa]

And I shall just not say

[Noraa]

Apologies I didn't finish the fairly simple sentence so DK somehow didn't understand it.

Ydrasse did not reveal what our night 0 action was IN THE MAIN THREAD
there u happy?

[Noraa]

no I'm not revealing it.

link to VC on this page

[Noraa]

i understand now.

but yes, lets pair up some people that scumread eachother and force them to visit eachother and attack eachother :3

why tf?

[Noraa]

no I'm not revealing it.

why?

none of your beeswax

i understand now.

but yes, lets pair up some people that scumread eachother and force them to visit eachother and attack eachother :3

why tf?

so that they a) cant do other actions b) eliminate people faster that are unclear?

its logical and actually not a bad plan. maybe not have everyone do it at once but it leashes people to not let them do actions other than potentially a factional doc action.

unless you wanna explain why this a bad idea?

this does not sound like a good idea....
it just sounds random af and our success would be 100000% based on luck

[Noraa]

I've never been attacked or experimented on so idk how any of that works :/

[Noraa]

If we decrease each other's skills, we are literally doing scums job for them bc we all get weakened by a shit ton and we did it ourselves

[Noraa]

cmod is more conftown than you

[Noraa]

I thought we were waiting for one of them to prove themselves by killing off a scum.

ABR needs a weapon to guarantee a kill

[Noraa]

I've TRed ABR for an eternity

[Noraa]

Spoiler:

what day did you say you first TR abr

the day I replaced in.

i kept repeating it didnt make a difference?? like i was trying to conceal info so that scum would be as much in the dark about what would happen. also if i die tonight it was 1000% nora

*sigh* is this post necessary? all ur doing is giving scums a 100% valid reason to kill you and blame it on me.

im pretty sure nora is just scum who is AtEing constantly to prevent town from doing anything bc i havent seen them post anything useful ever and ydrasse claimed a role i dont think they would claim as town so early. (seriously why would u claim that as town lol). also i read thru bingle's posts and i saw another interesting mech thing i dint think of and it ties into leashing but we can force someone to loot GB's corpse for the necklace as well

I literally have not AtE'ed at all this game or none that I am aware of. Why my predecessor claimed. I did not read up but my understanding is that they were under pressure but even if not, that's not really something I can control since they were my predecessor. the order goes predecessor then me :/

im pretty sure nora is just scum who is AtEing constantly to prevent town from doing anything bc i havent seen them post anything useful ever and ydrasse claimed a role i dont think they would claim as town so early. (seriously why would u claim that as town lol). also i read thru bingle's posts and i saw another interesting mech thing i dint think of and it ties into leashing but we can force someone to loot GB's corpse for the necklace as well

fwiw that's what pooky's read is on noraa ^
just single-mindedly producing a lot of noise to drown out other pov's

if thats what pooky thinks, pooky has got to take a good look at DK. Maybe he can spin a scum!DK view out of all this spamming.

Oh hai - you don't know me and Bingle and the totality of the games we played.

Stop being an insufferable ass. At this point, you are just poking to poke for no reason.

I'm sorry you were really displeased and ik I wasn't helping with my spamming. Sorry and I hope one day we can have a nice game together

Now searching for a replacement for PenguinPower.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

Sorry, dude. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, it's just Dk, Noraa, and then you seemed devoted to acting very petty

1)don't blame it on 3 people
2)don't say sorry and proceed to say something like "but its all bc u were being dumb" cuz then it defeats the purpose of the sorry
3)this has nothing to do with the game but I am not happy with this post on a more realistic level

it seems like the entire last 6 pages is more of koba and gamma's useless argument so I'm tempted to skip it

skip it and look at this post. it covers all the important stuff imo

[Noraa]

Y'all are really gonna just let scum!F&G go?

[Noraa]

Johnny get your ass back to F&G (said in the nicest way possible but ye this a joke)
Cake why do you jump on Lavar so fast when you were talking about joining F&G for the longest time?
DK you are pocketed town. Town that got 100% pocketed by F&G.

[Noraa]

IDGAF I'll do either of them

why don't you do the bigger wagon that has higher chance of going thru that you have talked about for the longest time?

[Noraa]

I mean I'm not against Lavar. Are you?

I want Lavar to give someone the weapon first to prevent scum from getting the weapon. Prob is that Lavar has rejected giving the weapon(in a way cuz he saw stuff but never replied or gave anyone the weapon) and thats making me low-key SR hard. I'd still prefer F&G today cuz F&G flip directly influences my reads on IKS and Cake so we get more out of it imo.

both wagons are the same size tho

not when cake voted

[Noraa]

So if I SR 3 people, I'm supposed to spawn two extra votes is that what you're saying?

[Noraa]

Im caught up

[Noraa]

yay! we killed a doctor!!!!!

[Noraa]

speaking of which, yesterday when I visited thread, it was already night and I saw DK told like 4 different people to attack Lavar so I actually did not attack Lavar even once cuz I figured my actions weren't needed there cuz Lavar was def gonna die. Lemme go check my pt to see what happened to my actions and I'll share if anything important happened

[Noraa]

VOTE: abr
Suspicious AS HELL for pushing Johnny and me back onto F&G yesterday

shut up. you are blaming us when you were one of the deciding votes. If anything, scums would wanna hide behind others and wouldn't so boldly charge out front. Plus if ABR was the one that killed Lavar, he might be conftown from now on.

[Noraa]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84523
I’m really glad I’m alive rn because this finished during the night phase and is a PERFECT point to why early mass claims help scum. The fact scum knew there was no protective role allowed them to no kill gambit and then claim a town protective during the massclaim. Had no massclaim occurred, MiniMegabyte couldhave gotten a cop guilty on Ydrasse and at the very least made it so any attempt to use that fakeclaim would come at a risk of being found as a liar by the gunsmith, or some other spanner in the works.

what what? I don't follow? Also I'm actually going to my pt now lmao

[Noraa]

speaking of which, yesterday when I visited thread, it was already night and I saw DK told like 4 different people to attack Lavar so I actually did not attack Lavar even once cuz I figured my actions weren't needed there cuz Lavar was def gonna die. Lemme go check my pt to see what happened to my actions and I'll share if anything important happened

So why did you attack me huh

woah say this one more time?
You are scum if you go thru with this claim cuz I sure as hell did not attack you last night. I had two actions last night and both can be proven some way or another.

[Noraa]

DK if you are not joking, you are scum and I have no other choice but to believe you are scum cuz I did NOT attack you

[Noraa]

one of my stats went up which proves one of my actions
the other is .... difficult to prove but I think I might be able to

[Noraa]

Now searching for a replacement for Albert B. Rampage.

well fuck. I really vibe with him well. Hopefully the replacement doesn't mess up all my reads by being a walking scumbucket

[Noraa]

*vibed

[Noraa]

I lived, bitch.

did you have a nice evening

replaced in for penguin power eh? you called all my posts townie in the game where u repped in for me. tell me what you think of my posts this game.

[Noraa]

mistake?

[Noraa]

all ik is that my two actions are confirmable ... kinda.
either way I only had two actions and neither was attacking DK

[Noraa]

FYI that action I said I might use against IKS? I lied. I used it on Lavar instead.

what action?
can't remember idk y

[Noraa]

my stats will be 3, 3, 4

[Noraa]

Cake you attacked Lavar right? How many stats go down when you do that? And also which stats?
I haven't attacked anyone so far or been attacked so I'm frankly, not sure at all how it works

[Noraa]

Noraa is not scum this game. Bet.

This was my first instinct upon looking at the game. Lol.

and why is that? this game isn't my typical town play if I do say so myself.

[Noraa]

Cake is basically conftown atm then and tho I didn't like this slot in the past, imma let it slide.
ABR ... guys be nice. unless somehow there's a guilty on him, my pov is that he has seemed very town all along. I really liked that slot and agreed with him a shit ton.

[Noraa]

Johnny yeah please give gamma the attack item.

[Noraa]

Johnny found it so its his.

[Noraa]

nora if we dont get abr we get you. Its simple

you think threatening my life is gonna change much? I have nothing to fear. I'm town and I'm universally TRed here. you can't do shit to me.

[Noraa]

Let's just say if just about anyone else was saying this to me, I'd think twice. But you have just been unreasonable since entering when reading my slot so I frankly dont care. If your read on me was consensus read, I'd be really confused/annoyed/mad but its not so eh.

[Noraa]

You purposefully kept forcing the fng vote.

Stop trying to pretend like ur clear somehow when you have consistentky been the scummiest player other than lavar who u refused to vote

lmao really now? scum!me repped in and instead of just pushing a easy bingle lim, I go all the way south and push F&G who was (imo trying to pocket me) to hell?

[Noraa]

fng was towny as shit

uh huh. someone "towny as shit" got consensus voted out. yup that makes perfect sense

[Noraa]

ur night actions are literally hella shady too like u literally havent explained shit and purposefully keepnit in the dark bc obviously u dont have a good fakeclaim lol.

Lel I claimed every single action except my day 0 action. what more do you want?

[Noraa]

Claim all your actions now

Im actually not sure if this is a good idea currently bc some of my actions .... hmm I dont want to explain yet. give it some time. wait until at least morning and I'll claim my actions from last night. Day 0 action I still dont wanna claim yet.

[Noraa]

No.

[Noraa]

Explain why.

I can't right now

[Noraa]

whos last 2-3 scum nora. Tell us.

normal games have 3 scum so there's most likely 2 left. I'm think the penguin slot, IKS, and maybe ABR is our limpool.

Cake is basically conftown atm then and tho I didn't like this slot in the past, imma let it slide.

why is cake town?

ABR ... guys be nice.

never

unless somehow there's a guilty on him, my pov is that he has seemed very town all along. I really liked that slot and agreed with him a shit ton.

this made me laugh
are you meaning to say if there is a guilty on him you take the townread back.....

anyway why is ABR town?

Well by guilty, I meant like stats shit. That would make him confscum cuz the stats can't lie

[Noraa]

I'm aware of that but if we let her think we believe her enough that she comes up with a more complicated fake reason then it'll be funnier. Let's let her walk herself off the plank.

that TR on me was really paper thin. Worstie has gone around and sussed me and cmod which is super interesting considering cmod is conftown. I think he repped in and thought DK was the town leader lmao so he started sheeping or he is just playing around with DK. Not sure which one but if the first, I'm inclined to believe this slot is scum.

[Noraa]

Could it be you're calling another slot you don't have a read on scum?
Could it????
Wild

yeah no. cake is conftown if he killed lavar

[Noraa]

I'm gonna not let myself get distracted by scum, and help the glorious effort to elim ABR.

why are you coming in and just OMGUSing the fuck out of everyone?

[Noraa]

^im not. ur just scummy

[Noraa]

PP slot definitely doesn't look great here

Look where pp vote was lmfao

where was it?

[Noraa]

Thats actually still pretty sus ngl cuz by yesterday, scum team would have to be stupid to not know that lavar was going down 100%

[Noraa]

Cake is town if you believe he attacked lavar last night which I can def buy

ABR is town bc I liked that slot a lot. there's not much more to it but if there's a guilty on him(thru stats), I will reassess

[Noraa]

Scum bussing a partner that was universally SRed basically the entirety of this game is 100% normal

[Noraa]

My stats will be 3, 4, 4 actually
I forgot that I had 4 for speed rip
now I have 4 for speed and knowledge

[Noraa]

whos scum nora?

my lim pool is {worstie, ABR, and IKS}
I've said this so many times. literally what do you want

[Noraa]

how do mech guilties even work here?

[Noraa]

If ABR's stats r really funky, I'll be worried ngl but like what's it mean?

[Noraa]

why is worst/pp or iks scum? They were both not on the fng wagon

not a good deciding factor

[Noraa]

1/2 knowledge = mech guilty rn
I say one or two because potential library visit

what's 1/2 knowledge mean? they attacked someone or what?

[Noraa]

btw DK you said I attacked you right? clarify that please asap

[Noraa]

I don't have 2
I have 4 knowledge

[Noraa]

No one has attacked me so my stats 100% should be the same + my knowledge went up last night

[Noraa]

my knowledge went up one last night

[Noraa]

UH I literally said in my like first post or something why I didn't attack lavar. I literally didn't attack and lavar still died. does that not say enough of why?

[Noraa]

you told like 4 people to attack lavar. I am not interested in wasting my night actions

[Noraa]

I wasn't in the thread when you went around telling people to kill lavar so I just didn't do it.
I mean
1) I never agreed to do it anyways
2) you told like four people far more than enough to kill lavar so I didn't do it

[Noraa]

would you have rather I attacked lavar and had two actions that 1) cannot be proven today cuz too many people attacked lavar and
2) are two entirely wasted actions?

[Noraa]

I instead have two PROVABLE actions

[Noraa]

you are literally just been dumb about this. lel call me scum to make yourself feel better. If it weren't for your conftown status that your predecessor left you, you'd have died the day you repped in.

[Noraa]

^@dk

[Noraa]

can someone outside dkko/Nora hold my hand for a sec

there's like without a doubt one scum in noraa and dkko and noraa looks really bad right? I don't like actually understand what they're talking about in great detail but I don't feel like noraa is defending a defensible position?

uh. why is there a scum in DK/Noraa? DK is conftown.

[Noraa]

you might as well just say I am scum lel

[Noraa]

No DK is conftown bc that slot got attacked by doctors multiple times and helped gamma blow up labs

[Noraa]

I just disagree with everything this say is all

[Noraa]

No DK is conftown bc that slot got attacked by doctors multiple times and helped gamma blow up labs

They didn't help with the labs, I was the one to help gamma blow up labs

my memory failed me. right that was u.

[Noraa]

So if worstie is off, ur telling me the remaining scums are just iks and ABR?

[Noraa]

cuz there must be at least 3 scums

[Noraa]

ok then if that's true, I have just solved the game
IKS/Lavar/ABR

[Noraa]

Johnny exists but I don't think he is scum.
Penguin and cake are now conftown ig?