Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

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Tho I am very unpredictable and dangerous to keep around even if I'm a god at killing town. Scums should kill me. It will provide zero new info for town since I specifically said scums should kill me.

okay, look. ico will probably protect you but might protect bob. if scum shot anyone but ico, it would be wasting a kill.

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ico does not need to protect bob if bob dies that narrows our poe anyway

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ico protect whoever you'd like it honestly does not matter

if iaaun flips red we are guaranteed to win barring some next level shenanigans this game

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scum will shoot ico lmao there's no reason for anything else to happen

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if they shoot anyone else it would open up the possibility of that person being protected

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lylo

bob what's your result

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i'm almost 100% confident we're going with alonzo today and i'm cursing myself for listening to menal and ico over going with alonzo yesterday

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noraa hold off on voting alonzo right now, we don't want a hypothetical scum!datisi quickhammer

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okay let's think about this for a second

i think we do alonzo today bc i'm extremely confident in alonzo!scum

do we see a world where bob is scum? because noraa, one of us is probably dying tonight, and datisi and bob are going to cross vote tomorrow, and i'd prefer we make that decision rn

goddamn it i should have pushed harder for an alonzo lim yesterday

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wait right bob followed alonzo to the kill

hm i guess alonzo/datisi then unless bob and alonzo are playing 5d chess

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noraa pls get back here

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alonzo who's the scumteam from your pov

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oh fuckity fuckity fuck i just remembered that mafia traitors are Normal

well then bob COULD be scum

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nope nope nope i'm not believing it that's not happening i don't see SS and schadd being like "yes let's go against meta and agree to a fucking mafia traitor in the setup"

noraa you're vigging datisi tonight?

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We kill alonzo. I vig datisi. If we lose the game, u can blame me later.

lmao well okay

i think your shots on bm and menal, as well as your lie during massclaim, were bad play; that being said, vigilante is a hard role, especially for relative newbies, so i do understand your hyper focus on "not wasting shots"

if you roll vig in the future, don't be afraid to holster often! playing as a vigilante means knowing when to shoot and who not to shoot. generally, lying about a vig claim to avoid "wasting" shots is a bad idea, and come massclaim you should usually claim.
in addition, maybe next time don't try to directly contradict more experienced players when they're talking about the setup? saying things like "town vig usually means mafia doc" when you don't necessarily know what you're talking about and don't have a lot of games or relevant research to back you up on that claim is counterproductive and won't help anyone. definitely bring up points you're experienced with, but don't say things if you don't know about them.


that alll being said, you're still a relatively new player and have been playing well the past couple of days, after you realized that both ico and i were basically confirmed town, so kudos on that! you'll definitely improve as you get more experienced, and I don't plan to blame you for anything

if your kill doesn't go through for some reason, get datisi in 3p lylo.
if bob is scum, good game and well played!

VOTE: alonzo

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mafia traitor wiki page

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what were you, alonzo?

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oh was it? thought that was hammer

l-1 then, noraa can finish it

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if your kill doesn't go through for some reason, get datisi in 3p lylo.
if bob is scum, good game and well played!

VOTE: alonzo

what were you, alonzo?

how was that a scum slip what

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uh i have not dodged your questions? i believe i've answered every question i saw lmao

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okay, dude. whatever you say.

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alonzo i was SO angry at you when i saw your flip but then i realized that your play actually was perfectly +town because if you had claimed you'd just have gotten the lim anyway
it was risky because you could have gotten vigged but whatever

great job everyone!! very well played game on all sides.

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nicely modded, especially for your first time! flavor was okay, but you did a good job resolving and keeping track of night actions, your vote counts were good, and deadlines were prompt, so kudos!

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i think the only possibly problematic error was in ico's role PM, but as a first time moderator that's not necessarily your job to catch *mild playful chastising of the reviewers goes here*

balance wise, it was well done! townsided, but it was definitely within the "balanced" range. i just wish Alonzo had claimed; he might have been vigged and that would be REALLY bad.

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oh yeah reading the mod pt @gypyx lmao you're fine i'm definitely not blacklisting your games! especially for newbie mods/normal games i wouldn't hold the mod accountable for setup design and role pm mistakes because that's why the review process exists

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i think the only possibly problematic error was in ico's role PM, but as a first time moderator that's not necessarily your job to catch *mild playful chastising of the reviewers goes here*

balance wise, it was well done! townsided, but it was definitely within the "balanced" range. i just wish Alonzo had claimed; he might have been vigged and that would be REALLY bad.

All that does is waste a vig shot though? Even if you lim alonzo afterwards, that was going to happen anyway and he still get the venge shot off. He certainly could've claimed 1-shot bp though

his BP was already gone, so if noraa shot him he would have died

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but it was definitely within the "balanced" range

how would you say it was unbalanced?
i don't know - i'd have to see the review pt, but i wouldn't call this setup explicitly unbalanced.

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i hate vigs i will never put a vig in any setup i run they're shit god

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you were widely townread!

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Gypyx fixed the setup by making me vig. Two prs got taken out just like that

^^this tbh

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ya know what i'd like to pre-in to that if that's allowed in the normal queue i don't remember
if it's not pm me when it goes into signups please )

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unless there is a vig in the setup in which case nope nope nope

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you're fine! you have time to improve.

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noraa ngl

idk if you know what dance games are but essentially they're games where players target each other during the day and become lovers & neighbors with them

i was town dancemaster, the most powerful town PR in a fairly PR-heavy dance game: i could read EVERY DANCE PT and shut down one of them

and i managed to get myself eliminated d1 after some absolute shitty play, even though i claimed, because i sucked that badly
we all get better!!

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shall we all just agree scum won?

yes

+1 this ngl

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i think this is a tgp win because i'm the only one left alive - secretly a serial killer ~~

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I have nommed this game for Kodak Moment. The vengehit into vigshot for the win after what would/should have been a game-winning faux-guilty from scum is just too good.

oh damn, you're right. it is. that shit was wonderful.

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