Mafiascum.net

FL is as FL is; his methods can't work 100% of the time or we wouldn't be able to play with him

well i think hes 0% in games with me. not very inspiring.

he's very high % in games i've been in with him like, over all. he's also fun as hell.

it wasnt fun when he repped in and started deathtunneling me for no reason when i was town, and people listened because "FL is very high %". he never really reconsidered.

this interaction is making me want to slam my head against a wall

why would creature claim goon

why does flavor want the doctor

what the hell

again
this isnt a scum win
its a fucking town loss

PR worship = bad
overconfidence = bad
early massclaim = bad

*credit's where credit's due for scum though, fakeclaim + no kill executed very well, and ydrasse held onto my pressure quite well imo, and third member (probably pooky) is playing a great game

I should have fucking fought the early massclaim but I was already demotivated

FL has 200 more posts than anyone else rn. Dude needs to learn to chill out and cut down on the caffeine or fucking SOMTHING to not spam

i expressed a tiny amount of skepticism but started to think FL would have to be scum for it to be a bad idea, and started to think FL was town. and then i got paranoid about a scum fake-claim gambit, but i thought it wasnt possible because town would have to have a protective. lesson learned. trust my gut, and im a silly goose.

In post 206, shellyc wrote:PR worship = bad

yeah

In post 206, shellyc wrote:overconfidence = bad

this is funny coming from you shelly
high confidence is good in appropriate doses. checking yourself on how likely you actually are to be right is overpowered.

In post 206, shellyc wrote:early massclaim = bad

mmm maybe sometimes yeah

In post 211, the worst wrote:this is funny coming from you shelly
high confidence is good in appropriate doses. checking yourself on how likely you actually are to be right is overpowered.

no its not funny
I did re-evaluate my ydrasse push by pushing HARDER and what I got was ydrasse was more likely scum
I would say some parts of ydrasse reactions were flailing

In post 210, Tayl0r Swift wrote:lesson learned. trust my gut, and im a silly goose.

lesson learned
at least consider the possibility that a shellyc tunnel is correct

When you reconsider and it just makes your read stronger it doesn’t feel genuine to others

In post 214, Gamma Emerald wrote:When you reconsider and it just makes your read stronger it doesn’t feel genuine to others

i wanna roll vigi

you're right but eh

I should study the art of obvtowning
SR -> reconsideration -> double down isnt really fake imo

just hardclaim scum, thats what i do.

It isn’t fake but it doesn’t look great either
You’d need to have something you legitimately missed, probably

Obvtowning is as much about changing playstyle to suit what the playerlist expects of town as it is acting in a particular townish way. Both sides can do it with different motivations.

I don't know if site meta has ever been in the place of actually understanding that RC quote you linked but mafia is a social game played by humans so I doubt it. Until it is in that place town has a bunch of motivation to fit in, "survivalism is alignment indicative" be damned.

Also, there is nothing wrong about being town with good reads and a tendency to get mis-elimed, town needs a bunch of different types of players to function. I can get how it'd be frustrating though.

In post 203, the worst wrote:he's very high % in games i've been in with him like, over all. he's also fun as hell.

Yep but the problem is that flav every now and then lets his ego in the way and this game so far has been one of those cases. I did try and tell him this game

they really should be taking BM as town after all he was a recent scum buddy of mine. So i know thats not scum him.

i have lost hope in FL and this town

PookyTheMagicalBear, has died. Please welcome him.

At this point we'd all like to be up to speed, so any spoilers you want to share, go nuts.