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halfway through my reread of the game and I'm liking Tayl0r less and Jake more.

My head hurts.

I won’t be able to reread until tomorrow probably. Maaaaybe start tonight but not sure that’s a good idea with the mood I’m in.

Got a little side tracked from sleep by looking a bit back at diamond sentinel in cyberpunk. Gonna look back at it tomorrow.

Ffery what do you think balance looks like here?

We have 17 players which I would normally assume 4, but I can’t imagine that it would be 3 plus a traitor, so is it possible 4 plus traitor?

I’m asking mostly because I was looking at the playerlist to see if there was someone I was forgetting and if there was anyone I’m actively suspicious of. And I was noticing that I have some townish pings for a lot.

Anyway hopefully gonna fall asleep now and hopefully reread tomorrow.

Kinda think it’s just Taylor here? Don’t know if it just annoyance with the approach

Syry - Why didn’t you interact with my discussion of my reading jakes meta? When you pulled it up, you acted like it was something that hadn’t been done yet.

heh it wouldnt be the first time someone got annoyed with my approach and assumed scum. its never happened when i was scum though.

Mostly it’s that it seems like you’re popping in to say just enough to look like you’re doing something but not enough that it’s actually doing something.

And in the realm when I know one of you is scum, it’s incredibly difficult when two of you really aren’t making your alignment showing.

And a traitor is a different role than scum, especially depending on the type. I don’t expect the traitor to play exactly as they would as scum.

i mean fair enough, its been a lot of posts and ive struggled to get involved in the game. chalk it up partly to the game being dominated by the 2012 cohort and im having trouble figuring them out? the same thing happened in FGO.

FGO was a cohort-ish game that wasn't all that cohorty. I assumed I didn't know the majority of players. certainly didn't recognize some of them.

That’s fair! I completely understand the frustration. I have my own problems with it! But then again I’ve always more been the outsider rather than in the group so.

I’m not concerned with whether you can figure them us? out, and I definitely don’t expect you too this early! I’m just trying to figure you out. I have varying degrees of town reads of ffery and syry. Which leaves me trying to figure you and Jake out and whether I need to let the shadows I keep at bay out.

yeah but i still struggled in just the same way i am here. ive never struggled in the same way as scum, but sometimes do as town. that said, when people scumread me it usually helps me get engaged. the pressure and direct engagement is good. usually i float when i feel like a spectator watching through foggy glass, where things are happening around me but i cant quite see everything. sometimes i need pressure to help break that glass.

thats all fine - i just dont think engagement is the right margin to sort me on.

In post 202, Tammy wrote:Got a little side tracked from sleep by looking a bit back at diamond sentinel in cyberpunk. Gonna look back at it tomorrow.

Ffery what do you think balance looks like here?

We have 17 players which I would normally assume 4, but I can’t imagine that it would be 3 plus a traitor, so is it possible 4 plus traitor?

I’m asking mostly because I was looking at the playerlist to see if there was someone I was forgetting and if there was anyone I’m actively suspicious of. And I was noticing that I have some townish pings for a lot.

Anyway hopefully gonna fall asleep now and hopefully reread tomorrow.

Kinda think it’s just Taylor here? Don’t know if it just annoyance with the approach

I think 3 plus traitor(s?) may be about right. Depends on the number and sizes of neighborhoods.

With 3 old timers in this neighborhood, there's a fair amount of sortable content about us that is happening here and not in the game thread. And I think that's affecting the health of the town to some degree. Which is starting to make me feeling like blowing the lid off in the not too distant future might be good for town health.

I have thoughts about some other neighborhood compositions based on the in-thread content. There has to be an incentive for not claiming those hood(s?), too, or I feel like they'd be starting to trickle into the game publicly.

I wish this were a safe place to air out my thoughts on the game design and the game thread undercurrents, but this is the world we live in.

I hope this isn't a "aha! The scum are all traitors!" game. I played in one of those offsite. It was not great.

In post 203, Tammy wrote:Syry - Why didn’t you interact with my discussion of my reading jakes meta? When you pulled it up, you acted like it was something that hadn’t been done yet.

Sorry I have no idea what you're talking about

In post 213, Syryana wrote:

In post 203, Tammy wrote:Syry - Why didn’t you interact with my discussion of my reading jakes meta? When you pulled it up, you acted like it was something that hadn’t been done yet.

Sorry I have no idea what you're talking about

Saturday morning I talked about metaing Jake and what I had found, but you didn't interact with it and then posted the meta links later.

I don't think it's scummy; that's not why I'm asking. I'm not really sure why I'm asking; I just felt a bit unseen? unheard? I don't know.

why isnt tammy posting? should we get a prod on tammy?

In post 211, fferyllt wrote:

In post 202, Tammy wrote:Got a little side tracked from sleep by looking a bit back at diamond sentinel in cyberpunk. Gonna look back at it tomorrow.

Ffery what do you think balance looks like here?

We have 17 players which I would normally assume 4, but I can’t imagine that it would be 3 plus a traitor, so is it possible 4 plus traitor?

I’m asking mostly because I was looking at the playerlist to see if there was someone I was forgetting and if there was anyone I’m actively suspicious of. And I was noticing that I have some townish pings for a lot.

Anyway hopefully gonna fall asleep now and hopefully reread tomorrow.

Kinda think it’s just Taylor here? Don’t know if it just annoyance with the approach

I think 3 plus traitor(s?) may be about right. Depends on the number and sizes of neighborhoods.

With 3 old timers in this neighborhood, there's a fair amount of sortable content about us that is happening here and not in the game thread. And I think that's affecting the health of the town to some degree. Which is starting to make me feeling like blowing the lid off in the not too distant future might be good for town health.

I have thoughts about some other neighborhood compositions based on the in-thread content. There has to be an incentive for not claiming those hood(s?), too, or I feel like they'd be starting to trickle into the game publicly.

I wish this were a safe place to air out my thoughts on the game design and the game thread undercurrents, but this is the world we live in.

I don't mind terribly outing the neighborhood? I've never been in a dethy, so I don't really know the benefits drawbacks.

It seems like at least one other person is itching to out there own neighborhood I think.

Anyway, I plan to get to a reread, or in many ways an actual first read, of the game today.

In post 215, Tayl0r Swift wrote:why isnt tammy posting? should we get a prod on tammy?

?

In post 120, Tammy wrote:okay as far as I could find he's been scum twice, once in a newbie and once in that game that I just referenced that he replaced in. That I saw, the vote count thing was only in the scum game he replace into, but not in his newbie scum game.

As town he looks like an easy-iso mislynch but he also looks like he gives more content than he has here. Entirely possible this is the first time he's even seen a traitor and doesn't really know how to play the part?

IDK take this with a grain of salt, I didn't even come close to actually metaing him and was satisfying my own curiosity on the vote thing and overall demeanor. I also will look for anything to do to avoid doing work.

I'll be honest I read the first post where you ISO'd him in two of his games and somehow missed this one, or forgot. My post with meta in it was aimed more at ffery but I included you cause I thought maybe you hadn't looked at all his games yet? Sorry I missed it; I certainly didn't mean to imply you hadn't done it. I probably would have agreed with you then but I'm kind of leaning away from Jake towards Taylor at the moment.

In post 214, Tammy wrote:

In post 213, Syryana wrote:

In post 203, Tammy wrote:Syry - Why didn’t you interact with my discussion of my reading jakes meta? When you pulled it up, you acted like it was something that hadn’t been done yet.

Sorry I have no idea what you're talking about

Saturday morning I talked about metaing Jake and what I had found, but you didn't interact with it and then posted the meta links later.

I don't think it's scummy; that's not why I'm asking. I'm not really sure why I'm asking; I just felt a bit unseen? unheard? I don't know.

I definitely see and hear you I'm sorry that I glazed over your Jake-post

In post 216, Tammy wrote:

In post 211, fferyllt wrote:

In post 202, Tammy wrote:Got a little side tracked from sleep by looking a bit back at diamond sentinel in cyberpunk. Gonna look back at it tomorrow.

Ffery what do you think balance looks like here?

We have 17 players which I would normally assume 4, but I can’t imagine that it would be 3 plus a traitor, so is it possible 4 plus traitor?

I’m asking mostly because I was looking at the playerlist to see if there was someone I was forgetting and if there was anyone I’m actively suspicious of. And I was noticing that I have some townish pings for a lot.

Anyway hopefully gonna fall asleep now and hopefully reread tomorrow.

Kinda think it’s just Taylor here? Don’t know if it just annoyance with the approach

I think 3 plus traitor(s?) may be about right. Depends on the number and sizes of neighborhoods.

With 3 old timers in this neighborhood, there's a fair amount of sortable content about us that is happening here and not in the game thread. And I think that's affecting the health of the town to some degree. Which is starting to make me feeling like blowing the lid off in the not too distant future might be good for town health.

I have thoughts about some other neighborhood compositions based on the in-thread content. There has to be an incentive for not claiming those hood(s?), too, or I feel like they'd be starting to trickle into the game publicly.

I wish this were a safe place to air out my thoughts on the game design and the game thread undercurrents, but this is the world we live in.

I don't mind terribly outing the neighborhood? I've never been in a dethy, so I don't really know the benefits drawbacks.

It seems like at least one other person is itching to out there own neighborhood I think.

Anyway, I plan to get to a reread, or in many ways an actual first read, of the game today.

I'm not against outing the dethy so much as I want to be sure we discuss it thoroughly before we do, burned bridges etc

In post 217, Tammy wrote:

In post 215, Tayl0r Swift wrote:why isnt tammy posting? should we get a prod on tammy?

?

She's trolling you about being invisible

No need to apologize! I think I was just having a sensitive moment.

I feel like if someone from this neighborhood is on the chopping block today, then we need to out it so that the whole town can take into account the dethy composition, and think about who could be a traitor, not a generic scum player.

Once one of us flips, it's public knowledge there's a dethy anyway.

In post 219, Tammy wrote:No need to apologize! I think I was just having a sensitive

lifetime

moment.

<3

In post 220, fferyllt wrote:I feel like if someone from this neighborhood is on the chopping block today, then we need to out it so that the whole town can take into account the dethy composition, and think about who could be a traitor, not a generic scum player.

Once one of us flips, it's public knowledge there's a dethy anyway.

Agreed.

What the hell is a dethy?

Am I the only person who really hasn’t crumbed? Lol

In post 222, Jake The Wolfie wrote:What the hell is a dethy?

It’s the neighborhood we’re in. I don’t know how to explain it besides that but I believe there’s an explanation in the wiki.