In post 199, Primate wrote:I haven't been a meta freak (or a good player) in like 12 years but I'll take a look then, much more comfortable now, thanks, sorry.
Now I've done that I hard disagree that her meta makes her look scummy, if anything the opposite.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:40 am
by Noraa
Really?
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:50 am
by Primate
I think this game started weirdly which is why I'm not more certain, but yeah. Don't let me stop you, I'm well out of practice with this type of thing, and I tend to prefer my meta reads to inform what I'm seeing in thread than dictate them.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:56 am
by Noraa
In post 205, Primate wrote:I think this game started weirdly which is why I'm not more certain, but yeah. Don't let me stop you, I'm well out of practice with this type of thing, and I tend to prefer my meta reads to inform what I'm seeing in thread than dictate them.
Interesting cuz my gut literally screamed scum so hard if I could dayvig someone, I would've dayvigged her right then, right there. Like that's the level of certainty. I'm not a god at reading people but shelly is one of the few that I've meta dived and I seriously just saw the opening and I was like, "no fucking way shelly is town"
u could convince me she's a werewolf or some other weird shit. But town, no.
This is full on gut. But I have never ... NEVER ever had such a strong gut read in all of my time on ms. I very strongly believe shelly is not town and that's why I will try my best to avoid solving her as I'm 1000000% sure this gut read will make the read very unfair if she really is town. But I swear to god, I will actually be so so shocked if she is town. Hands down will be like ok I'm out. Adios I suck at gut reads.
Anyways I feel really really really strongly about this but I'll avoid reading shelly for now so that I don't tunnel so early into day 1 cuz once I start tunneling, I legit can't stop.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:58 am
by Noraa
So many really's but I legit feel strongly about this and nothing'll change that besides a green flip in which case I will be absolutely bamboozled.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:02 am
by NoPowerOverMe
VOTE: Herta
Who am I to argue?
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:02 am
by NoPowerOverMe
E-2
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:03 am
by Noraa
I never understood the case on Herta. Anyone want to walk me thru that?
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:23 am
by EchoVision
how much longer till ico (confirmed but hasn't posted)
and arachnids (hasn't even confirmed)
get prodded/replacements looked for zzzzz
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:24 am
by EchoVision
In post 210, Noraa wrote:I never understood the case on Herta. Anyone want to walk me thru that?
herta scum claimed
but it's at l-2 and i want all the slots to post at least once before i put a wagon at l-1 so i'm just chillin with a vote in my pocket waiting
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:25 am
by EchoVision
In post 154, Herta wrote:
Not much at this point. Jumped out of rvs quick. npom is probably town. You and noraa I can't tell bc I'm having a hard time distinguishing you. Echo seems overly serious, but I'm having some difficulty there with Primate bc of the similar avatars also. I don't understand why everyone blew off the one person's question about other great idea games when there are three linked at the end of the wiki page. I mean several people have said that they read the wiki page, but none bothered to mention that? I linked to one of the games thinking that someone would accept that as an invitation to town bloc, but nothing.
What do you think?
In post 155, shellyc wrote:I think 154 comes from newbscum more than town thought (assuming herta isnt an alt or something)
In post 207, Noraa wrote:So many really's but I legit feel strongly about this and nothing'll change that besides a green flip in which case I will be absolutely bamboozled.
Yeah, go for it. I'm not your boss.
(This is partially why I don't like meta being argued in thread honestly, I'm not saying it's not effective, it is, but when you talk about it all comes down to vibes, you can't really debate it.)
My view on Hertas scumclaim is that I get why in the moment you could treat is as serious, I have seen players dip out p much immediately like that by claiming scum before. In retrospect it's a joke, but I think it opens up questions about why you would joke that way in that situation. But, Herta is (seems to be) a new (new to this site?) player, so unconventional responses are to be expected. In terms of mindset, I think defensive humour like that is a scumtell, but I don't think it's damning. I thought the seal post was evidently more of a concession than the double down on "hey whatever" than what it seems to be have been intended as. That said I think having a mindset that your own lynch is something that is the natural state of things, like Herta seems to have, is a scumtell generally. I think this wagon is building a little opportunistically but it's not one I hate without Herta giving me a reason to unvote I can believe in.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:17 am
by Noraa
U see I wouldn't be surprised by a red flip from herta as they are null on my radar rn. I feel like everyone making a big fuss out of nothing. I saw it as a joke and took no notice in it and I could see why it could be a scumtell but I could also see town saying it. this is precisely why I just completely disregarded it BC I think its not AI.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:28 am
by Primate
On a massively unrelated note I randomised three setups earlier to investigate that group scum thing and each one had three scum groups, one had three scumgroups and sk, so I hope u guys are ready for a fun n1.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:57 am
by Noraa
Damn wow
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:15 pm
by redcardinal
In post 174, shellyc wrote:what's up with all the newbs loving preflip associatives
I think efforts to solve each other arent indicative of scumpair if anything. I dont think a town-town interaction is similar to a scumpair interaction at all
I agree the town-town interaction isn't similar to scumpair interaction, I'm just being forthcoming with my thoughts here. also lol I've been playing here since 2015 this is just a new account.
This is a very interesting response to my gut read.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:18 pm
by redcardinal
In post 193, Herta wrote:And red cardinal. What the hell kind of vote is that? "Serious vote." So when you switched from RVS it wasn't a serious vote? Or that was a second RVS vote? Maybe explain that.
I wanted to see more from noraa under pressure, but no I don't think noraa is scum
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:21 pm
by Rannygazoo
I voted Herta because I wanted an explanation of the apparent scum claim, and we got none. Oh well.
It’s almost page 10 and I’m kind of surprised that no one has been dayvigged or something crazy by now.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:22 pm
by redcardinal
I forsee a herta lynch today, but if not I will also happily go for shelly and then noraa on a red flip. Obvious distancing.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:23 pm
by redcardinal
having read through the rest of the thread after my post 220 I scumread noraa