mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Bell]

Would you be OK if I executed Bell and let you wagon DDL tomorrow?

yes im fine

I can't tell if the joke is that she'll be fine because she wouldn't be the one being executed or not.

[Bell]

I want to start a town Rebellion even though I think there are gunna be a lot of scum infiltrators.

[Bell]

I'm just kinda...idk wow. IDK what to really think. I can get behind the idea that players would be paranoid of two 3p groups working together but I mean there are 4 factions here.

the society
growliths health industry or w/e the fuck a50's group is
king didi's army

and town


so it just boggles my mind what people actually think this setup is.

This is the first time i’ve Seen all the different factions named and this game is even more confusing than I thought.

[Bell]

Since A50 is just in charge today maybe I should just spend my efforts getting all the different role pm’ and factions together in my head

[Bell]

Did I not say I was depressed.

[Bell]

Mostly that was a comment on the names of the factions or at least added to it. ESP. In regards to flavor.

It also didn’t click with me that there were 2 extra factions with two different win conditions and that the two factions might have competing alternative win conditions where one is more achievable than the other and may result in less interest in town siding.

Is morning mage another faction? Or just Mason’s?

[Bell]

y r u depressed?

Job hunt not going well.

[Bell]

for the record, this is a 12-3-3-5 setup.

I'd really like for players to maybe setup spec a little and hear what they think of the game with 3 other factions that aren't town. I'm a little confused as to what people actully think of what the setup is.

Sure, i’ll get around to it in the following two days.

[Bell]

Yeah, I definitely just need to write all this stuff out to get it sorted in my head.

[Bell]

@shellyc I am looking for the answer to this since you’re caught up

Chemist DDL pete S_S TGP

this is like a PoE basically
chemist pred was complaining hydras vs scumhunting, and chemist has not even tried to further the game at all
DDL is playing like large 229 (scum!them)
pete is just being really bland and lacking any proactiveness at all
S_S isn't scumhunting and focusing on mech is a good way to get townpoints
TGP play is really consensus-y overall

I roughly speaking agree with this post. IMO, a least 2 scum in that list.

[Bell]

I thought you already retracted it?

[Bell]

I very slightly read DS as town.

[Bell]

It's a close thing tho.

[Bell]

I'm mech conftown though 2 players can definitely confirm i'm town, and for some reason another 3/4 players are also doing so. So good luck with that!

Most people were of the opinion that Morning Mage's twilight posts hard-spewed him as scum.

Thinking on it, I've actually come to the opposite conclusion. Yes, surprise! Shock! I am reevaluating my take on him and now am of the opinion that he's actually locktown.


Titus
Nero Cain
Almost50
superbowl9
Morning Mage

Guess what the

real

reason for my turnaround townread on Morning Mage was?
(Almost50 told us that Morning Mage was the third mason early. This would also be why I deliberately put off towncasing Morning Mage; I really didn't have so much as a single thing to towncase the slot off of because the read was purely a mechanical clear. As shown by them being listed right under the other two masons.)

This is helpful.

Also, Grandma had a bad morning so I'm not sure how much I'll be posting today.

I think Norwe would be a better BP protect than A50 just because I can see A50 aiming for the harder win condition because he's a cool character like that.

[Bell]

I think Norwe would be a better BP protect than A50 just because I can see A50 aiming for the harder win condition because he's a cool character like that.

The next time you confuse my faction with Titus' I will deviate from the plan, disregard all recommendations and execute you instead. It's not that hard to check who is in which faction.

Do the right thing.

[Bell]

This isn't really the kinda posting I was expecting on the weekend from White knight hero Jjh927.

Regarding the DDL "everyone thinks he's scum therefore the scum team does too"

Is a little difficult for me.

On the one hand they lost gamma which might make them hesitate to bus again (the scum team may suck) or at least no argue alternatives.
On the otherhand, Gamma. Was fairly close to a consensus kill in the thread.

[Bell]

Did you not play that newyork game with me?

I'm about as qualified to comment on game balance as a rubber duck.

I read it, but I just plain didn't know what to say.

[Bell]

@Math: OK. Let's wait till you do get your answer.
@Bell: I am not asking you to so a whole setup spec. I am asking if you believe that claim or if you see anything wrong with it.

if I thought something was especially off I would have said something anyway.
it's a little odd that they half claimed out of nowhere? I'm not sure. We have a tracker and motion detector flipped. S_S thinks the mass investigator is some kind of scum aligned role? So half assed investigators part tres might make sense? It doesn't seem like a very good fake claim to me.

[Bell]

This is an invitation for Chemist to explain why they decided to claim now btw.

[Bell]

I will change my position to DDL is probably scum.

[Bell]

Rather than that I just don't disagree that he's scum.

[Bell]

bell you have some of the weakest, most fence-sitty takes i've ever heard in my life

what do you think ddl is

Scum.

Also, I am a professional hedge wizard.

[Bell]

I fence sit until I feel pretty strongly one way or the other. Though I'm kinda random with it.

Sometimes, I beeline and tunnel. Sometimes I fake beeline and seem more confident than I really am. Sometimes I'm just honest and say I don't know.
There's a lot of Bell stance reads that go from completely tunneled to schrodingers cat.

[Bell]

Because April flipped town and I townread her. I had a town grouping with me and Plus.

Are we in the same game?

we are but you scum reads are unflipped though you prob are right about DDL and S_S if you still scum read him.

I'm backing off now though but if we are still here on like d7 ima tunnel the fuck out of you.

If you and I are still here on day seven I am gonna wonder what the scum team is doing and if they would share their snacks with me. So in other words deal.

This is positive.

I'm un-un back pedaling on grumpy S_S.
Though I don't know why S_S would mention the scum PR sensor thing as actual scum.

[Bell]

I'm trying to figure out which people are town rebelling and which one's are scum pretending to be town rebelling.

DDL fits neatly into the latter.

[Bell]

FTR I'm null to LS on tay.
But I'm always null to LS on tay.

[Bell]

If I was scum I would be so sad about the MB, Nerocain make up. If they're both town anyway.

[Bell]

I don't know how good math is as scum, but I do feel like he's probably town TWIW. His concerns seem genuine rather than frustrated scum.

[Bell]

yesterday i was 40 pages behind and said id start reading from there. but then my motherboard died and now im another 50 pages behind. so im going to just read from here. sorry.

Claim. Now. You’re on E-1 from A50. Anything and everything. Right now.

uh really?

For all intents and purposes really.
claim.

[Bell]

Math has a pretty good scumgame (I was in the game that the quote in his sig is taken from), but it was pretty solid and conventional and the way he's playing here is anything but that.

Fits.

[Bell]

I have long accepted I will never get a title or a scummy.
I was nommed for my scum play as an alt once. But that's because I was an alt and I didn't get meta clobbered.

[Bell]

I would like to apologize. I obviously started giving content today. But also, I am derailing and shit posting in a game that desperately needs to stay on task.

Go back to solving.

[Bell]

I would like to apologize. I obviously started giving content today. But also, I am derailing and shit posting in a game that desperately needs to stay on task.

Go back to solving.

Thoughts about end of day 2?

Do you mean what I was thinking day 2 or what I think about day 2 now that it ended?

[Bell]

I was thinking that S_S was scum because he felt slightly off in terms of tone and focus. And then I wasn't thinking that. His recent posts on this page in regards to his read of you are giving me a ton of mixed feelings. Because he's probably right. But I'm not sure if he's going for a town cred bonus or if he's just being helpful.
S_S is just generally helpful as town. I think that based on how he approaches that you can read him. When he initially got here this led to a scum read, but then slowly changed to a town read and now back to slightly town. Given the pool's relatively narrow on town/town aligned slots he doesn't make the cut. I have a stronger read on ShellyC than him rn.
I initially thought this game was multi-multiball with multiple scum teams, but that doesn't look like that's what's happening. Which probably makes this game easier because I find it very hard to differentiate between people when part of how I read games is based on whether people are fake solving or not.

I was thinking that Titus was buddying me as scum.
I was thinking that DDL might be scum beause based on his play not being terribly disimilar to what he normally played as.
I was thinking that Plus joyed was town because he accurately threw Meta at me.
At the time of the last day phase I was scum reading shellyc for a lack of empathy and pushing me in a way that was sort of frustrating so it was more emotionally based than I would like to admit.
I felt you were town getting into an argument that wasn't going to be very conducive to our win condition so I tried to soothe that to the best of my ability given my brain state.


I was thinking that Mastina wasn't being fair to April and he was probably flipping town based on the replace out, his frustration posts, tone not differing much from ongoing.
I was leaning slightly town on Mastina at this point, but and correct me if I'm wrong I believe mastina was originally named Mastin on this site? And based on very dated Meta I did not wish to underestimate their scum game even slightly and their strategizing so I was being careful in weighing them given my depressed brain.

I felt SB was looking better. Today he's clearly aligned with town interests.
I felt Nerocain looked swell and continues to look swell. I mean, he looks extremely scummy and if I were scum I would absolutely NK him.

I wasn't sure what to make of the set up chaos because depressed brain. I have had a pretty tough time keeping track of everything across the board. I can't really do anything about this though. It's just sad brains time and eventually it will fade as it always does and I'll be more hopeful.

I don't have the energy to edit this. I can't fully recall what else I was thinking at the time.

[Bell]

Okay, maybe Titus is right about Pickaxe. He’s more natural as town.

His iso seems pretty natural to me; care to explain to the contrary?

No, I was bullshiting and seeing if he'd react to the pressure.
He just ignored me and I don't know what to make of that tbh.

[Bell]

ok well hmmm. im VT. im not sure why A50 suspects me, beyond being in PoE.

Ewwww

Yeah.

yeah.

Not a deflection. Am I 75% town or 75% scum.

[Bell]

I am 100% town tyvm.

[Bell]

As Titus said “Why me? Fry me”

yeah because the town response to being sussed for no reason is definitely to roll over and take it

Oversimplification tbh.
The I dunno why A50 think's I'm scum but here I'll claim feelings slightly off center to me.

I think it's because they're looking for reasons but in a way that doesn't feel like they care too much about the reasons and there's no emotional response to being in the poE pool, but more a curiosity about the accusation.

It's super nuanced and I can't quite articulate the issue I'm having with it.

But mountains, mole hills etc.

[Bell]

Suddenly, I am missing from Mastina's posts and even I think from a quote edit of morning's and
I feel like later Mastina's going to do a post-reveal about why I'm town or something.

[Bell]

K, I'm gunna go make that list now.

[Bell]

Ordinary town/King Doris Donnatello's Army.
NorwegianBoyee -
MathBlade-
shellyc-
Something_Smart-
Chemist1422- Gosippee: N1 target Titus. N2 Target: ?
jjh927 - Aesthetic
Tayl0r Swift - VT
Pickaxe Pete-
DiamondSentinel-
TheGoldenParadox-
DrDolittle-

Flips:
Gamma: King Doris Donnaello's army: 1 Shot alien
Ban Hydras: Killed N1. VT.
Menalque: Killed N1. Town tracker.
AprilLudgate: Eliminated D2. Town motion detector. N1 target Titus.
PlusJoyed: Killed N2. disloyal odd-night alignment cop inventor.


The Council: Not confirmed town to one another. They deduced that they were all town.
Win condition: Slight conflicting accounts: Stated at least one of them must be on every scum elimination.

They have two PT's: One for Nerocain, Mastina and Titus and a separate neighborhood with Nerocain, mastina, titus, A50 and NorwegianBoyee.
Titus: Neighborizor.
Mastina:mason(?) tracker-inventor N2 doctor. N1: Made Mena a tracker. N2: ? That's fine.
Nerocain: Some sort of god king hammer giver.
A50: Recruited N1. Still considered town+ and their win condition has not been altered.
Norwegianboyee: Recruited N2. Mechanically cleared. Still considered town and their win condition has not been altered?

Gouthwits health interns: Confirmed town+ to one another.
Win Condition: More closely aligned with town's win condition than the councils'.
Morning Mage.
A50
SB

Am I missing anything?

[Bell]

I think s_s would be more engaged with all the claims/ set up spec if town here.

what's to talk about? it's a schadd game, you can't setup spec it on day 2, or at all really.

S_S you don't seem to be hunting much

look if I'm given the opportunity to engage fully in a game through exclusively mechanics discussion, I'm taking it ninety-nine times out of a hundred.

I am not good at hunting (and I missed an entire day), but I am good at mechanics, and this game needs all the mechanics help it can get.

this progression from SS pings me quite hard and i don't like it at all. d2 he barely engages with setup spec discussion, then does an absolutely massive flip d3 despite not REALLY that much new information. then he uses that as an excuse to not have reads and not hunt. maybe i'm in the minority here, but SS is pinging me very, very hard.

Missed this. Thank you.

Back to the scum corner S_S goes.

[Bell]

This is one of those things where like,

We can eliminate DDL whenever, but we only get one GodKing Hammer and I'm not sure if we should go for safety or for the 360 noscope from N50.

[Bell]

Taylor.
Why can't I read you or the Bulge.

[Bell]

Yeah, I suppose as town I should want him to go for the safe option.

We could give him the Vest I guess and just let him do the safe thing and then lead the town to victory tomorrow.

[Bell]

He explicitly said he wasn't gunna get into town set up spec before then going into set up spec when it would out him in a badish position not to.
He's not wrong, but giving up the ghost of set up spec because it's a shadd game is a very, very odd defense.
He even dropped some meta on Mathblade's head (a read) when he just said he probably wouldn't or doesn't like giving reads.

He's contradicting himself a lot. Normally, I wouldn't find this scummy/easy fruit but for a variety of reasons I can't quite articulate this might be one of those exceptions to the rule.

[Bell]

No, I mean you cut me out entirely from a list by MM. Where he said he suspected me for pretty vanilla reasons. While responding to the rest.

But I don't care if I'm cleared or not really. I feel like I'm doing fine?

[Bell]

He said bad day.
Leave him be, we all have bad days.
We can question him tmrw.

[Bell]

I feel like later Mastina's going to do a post-reveal about why I'm town or something.

Eh I do tend to townread players who make points that resonate with me even if I later change my mind, which has contributed to townreads on slots like you, shellyc (I feel like shellyc is going to be rather disappointed in me that she's not in my top town in spite of having resonating thoughts with me, I promise I will try to explain that later), GoldenParadox, and probably more, and a lot of what you do/say does look town beyond me agreeing with a fair amount of what you say but I can't nail things down for sure, can't tell that you're definitively town, but do lean that way.

Easiest way to read me at this point is to say that I'm probably not capable of detecting the nuance between a town win condition a third party win condition and acting on that enough to try to get your teams to claim it to force your teams to play toward your town win conditions.
Since you know, I have no reason to pursue this angle if I'm scum.
Though this is a disputable claim almost based on the fact I'm bringing this up myself and also that as scum I guess I would go for it, I just don't think I'd

notice

it.

@Mastina, you're not wrong, these are bad reasons almost any other time and probably even bad reasons this time and I should be going after the goldenparadox for going after easy pickings. I fully expect S_S to confront me about it though, so I guess we'll see how that conversation goes.

[Bell]

No, I mean you cut me out entirely from a list by MM. Where he said he suspected me for pretty vanilla reasons. While responding to the rest.

You weren't the only one cut from the list; I cut only the names I didn't feel like contesting on and while I feel that you're probably more likely town, due to not being able to pin you down better, I didn't really feel so strongly about your townness as to contest MM on fingering you.

That's honestly,
too bad.
Oh well, they can't all be crumbs.

[Bell]

Without numbers let’s drop it. Since I doubt either of us actually have them to back up our positions,
I guess it would be about approximate probably to rand.
The types of contradictions probably matter a lot and a blanket rule on it and the exception to the rule directly applied to the idea that I don’t think contradictions are usually scummy.

[Bell]

what other claims we gonna out today?

I claim obvious town.

[Bell]

Don’t nudge A50.

[Bell]

Deliberate prod dodge duly noted.

Take care out there

[Bell]

apparently skipping 90 pages is not a good way to stay engaged. someone come scumread me and push me pls

I am passively doing this. As I always will be until I figure out how to read you one day.

[Bell]

What you're doing right now, asking people to make you useful is passively scummy in a sort of generic way.
Does that help?

[Bell]

What you're doing right now, asking people to make you useful is passively scummy in a sort of generic way.
Does that help?

Not so sure on that. The game is pretty big. If it was a short easy to keep up with game I’d agree.

This could go both ways.

I'm trying to help. In the most lazy way possible. Don't scrutinize it.

[Bell]

Something stupid.

[Bell]

VCA isn't very accurate, lets move on and stop playing like its 2012

Let's try NKA. What year was that again?

NKA was never a thing I hope.

[Bell]

My favorite ice cream is

Coffee Ice cream.

[Bell]

Not much tired and distracted.
I got a surprise phone interview.
...I did it while playing a video game at the same time.

[Bell]

I do believe we need someone to send someone off the island.

[Bell]

Lol

[Bell]

Drum roll

[Bell]

I was just wondering if shellyc was going to get shot.

[Bell]

Fwiw, played with scum shelly twice.
Not sure if scum here.

Hard to know given game state weirdness.
I tend to think she wouldn’t slack off if scum here.

Lean town. Wouldn’t die for it tho.

[Bell]

A little.
Her voice just seems more honest this game

[Bell]

She’s still playing somewhat tactically. But there’s more checking under rocks here.

[Bell]

I think she would be faking more confusion about the role set ups if she were scum this game.

[Bell]

Wow, did I just get off my fence to defend shellyc.
This was a mistake.

*gets back on fence*

[Bell]

Norwe, if I tell you, you have to town bin me

[Bell]

That’l do.

She plays like there’s
An inside joke and that she’s having fun sneaking around.

There’s none of that here.

Take my shit meta or leave my shit meta. It’s my 2c.

[Bell]

Wait, why do you even think you’re gunna die.

[Bell]

Well that’s confusing shelly.
I have no idea where your head space is or why it’s there.

[Bell]

^

[Bell]

What do you want me to do?

It's not really what i wanted you to do. I just commented that i find it sus how you keep AtE'ing. I'd expect town in your position to suggests alternatives for scum and convince why you're townie this game. Rather than putting out this emotional manipulation of: "i'm town but ready to die." "GOOD LUCK TOWN!" "I SWING MY FINAL FAREWELL AND MAY THE SCUM HUNT BE EVER IN YOUR FAVOUR DEAR FELLOW TOWN INDIVIDUALS!" etc.

I enjoy this regardless of what her flip ends up being.

[Bell]

Nero do you think Shelly is scum?

[Bell]

Wasn't super clear to me. *shrug*

[Bell]

I have no objections. Sounds good.
Good work. Even if wrong, the effort is appreciated.

Barring PR clear or shenanigans consider my vote on DDL tomorrow.
I don't think Gamma would not talk to all of his scum partners. Given the warm up phase, I think 2 of 3 is safish to assume. But that's kinda wifomy. So neverrmind.

[Bell]

Er, or not on DDL tomorrow to make room for the council folk.
Unless we don't wanna.
I'm very community minded.

[Bell]

Like I said, I'll happily step back from any bad reads I have.
Shellyc isn't superstrong. So I won't get in the way.

[Bell]

I vote for chemist.

[Bell]

RIP DDL.

See you next day phase?

[Bell]

I humbly request the scum team does not kill me.
I want front row seats to this.

[Bell]

I feel like a spectator in this game.

[Bell]

I pursue sitting in the front seat of a movie theater than in the parking lot.
That's all. Sometimes scum do stupid things and I just thought they might be interested in my request.

[Bell]

prefer*

[Bell]

she thinks ddl is town ause everyone said he was sum inluding the sum team

[Bell]

guess which key is having problems on my keyboard.

@Math, I agree. The only thing that gives me pause is that scum don't usually do it twice.

[Bell]

I just realized that there was data on this and I think in general scum are about as likely to be on scum wagons as town are. Even post-flip one of their own.
So never mind I guess?

[Bell]

Sure, I've never played in a game like this before.

[Bell]

The latter.

[Bell]

Yes, I claimed the obvious town role.
I'm an IC now.

[Bell]

I can't.

[Bell]

Not really, it seems to make sense from a social sense.
It's annoying to be nagged.

[Bell]

I want to give the "other" 3P group a good chance to win too, so THAT is why I am considering leaving ddl alive to be D4's elimination.

uhhh what? what wincons are these exactly?

It's the win con.
You know.

[Bell]

DDL is already dead.

[Bell]

How come no one thinks I’m scum anymore.

[Bell]

You can trust me.
With your shoes,
I won’t chew on them.
Much.

[Bell]

Scum equity, lamist and rule of 3 are the 3 things I do not like.

[Bell]

It's just tiring because scum equity doesn't make sense with the word equity.

If equity is the perceived value of a stock sold by a company. Scum equity doesn't make any sense. Because this implies that their value as scum is high. Which ????

Rule of 3 is just the 1 scum off wagon, 1 scum on wagon shorthand it's not a good rule of thumb.

Lamist just feels like another way of saying too town to be town. ~

Anyway!~

Mod should be here soonish.

[Bell]

Rule of 3 is just the 1 scum off wagon, 1 scum on wagon shorthand it's not a good rule of thumb.

No it's not, that's something else. Rule of Three I know is if scum mention three people together then it's more likely exactly one of them is scum.

I was noting the two's logic as being similar in construction.

[Bell]

I have looked up this meaning of equity in regards to poker and it makes more sense.

You could say that "at this point in time(or game state), the chances that X will flip scum is high. " = X has high scum equity.


I learned something new today. Thanks Sb.

[Bell]

I can't argue with pickaxepete town atm.
Because why would I.
I'm town.

If you could not embarrass me by being actually scum Pete I would appreciate it.

These two posts don't track.

Prepare to be embarrassed because I'm town. Why do you want me to be scum?

Bell probably town based on this.

[Bell]

Titus don't you have to be on wagon? Remember to vote.

[Bell]

Titus don't you have to be on wagon? Remember to vote.

You gonna do anything?

no. prolly not

[Bell]

Mail-in ballots. Did you get yours?

I sent mine in ages ago. I was real worried Biden would lose in California so I had to vote.

[Bell]

Sarcasm tags (but I did vote).

[Bell]

Not sure who to vote for here.

Yourself ofc.

[Bell]

Lies.VOTE: Bell

See?
Town totally self vote.

[Bell]

...That's actually the first time I've ever self voted.
I feel gross.

UNVOTE:

[Bell]

Lies.VOTE: Bell

See?
Town totally self vote.

But what if u are scum.

wut if.

@Morningmage: no. Republicans haven't won the popular vote in quite awhile. There are more people that claim to vote D than there actually are or at least, people will lie because they don't want people to get on their case (like I would) if they're honest.

[Bell]

It's easier to lie about your terrible opinions than it is to have those terrible opinions challenged - A closet republican .

I think that particular opinion is pretty fringy in regards to the corona virus. Though, some think that the senate dems are delaying aid relief to reduce trump's chances of winning (and not because trump won't negotiate). But who knows, people are dumb.

[Bell]

If PP is scum then that spews Bell and Mathblade as more likely town for reasons i won't divulge yet.

I think PP being scum increases the likelihood of Bell-scum. Mathblade is a borderline case.

How so, buttercup? Does Morning agree with you?

[Bell]

Taylor is always scum even when she isn't.

Every post looks like sarcasm, irony or like there's some insular or self-aware joke involved. Even her questions read like this to me.

Also, no, not really I think it's extremely weird that scum aren;t killing in the society.
I mean A50 NK wifom given his statements I can buy and maybe they investigated diamond. But I don't know how the scum team expects to survive when the elimination pool is this narrow.

[Bell]

So I take it everyone has decided fuck hunting and I am the only one trying?

It's not our rodeo.
I'm playing tech support.

@MM: Bullshit.

[Bell]

Woah, I thought I wrote buttercup.
I apologize.

[Bell]

This slipped right by me. I'm not necessarily town reading MM either but for the mason group.

Actually, one in each group makes sense.

This explains why scum don't shoot in mason groups. They really wanna sell us on this: "one scum in each of the groups" narrative.

To my knowledge,
A50, SB, and MM are confirmed town to one another.
While nerocain, Titus, and Mastina are not.

[Bell]

You can kind of tell that the interns are more aligned with the town than the other group too just from the lack of distance they have to the other town in the game in regards to their communication.

@MM Where?

[Bell]

Isn't the lodge a reference to twin peaks.

[Bell]

It sure doesn't.
This is why you're on my I can't read this list.

[Bell]

I thought you guys outright said you were confirmed town+ with each other.
Or are you speaking from the perspective of everybody else in the game?

[Bell]

the society could be town that is wrongly trusting the other hood right? isnt that a possibility?

I mean it’s possible...

Just like gravity could reverse itself just on pigs and pigs fly.

They would be falling in this case.

[Bell]

No, just be clear here. You are confirmed the same alignment to each each other.

Yes or no.

[Bell]

You sure are a liar mm.

[Bell]

Okay so you are just talking from the perspective of the rest of the town.
That from our POV you can’t all be scum from that perspective.

Thank you and Jesus Christ.

[Bell]

I agree that the entire interns are town+Ish.
Town enough. Maybe even more town than the rest of us.
Whichever.

Society tba.

[Bell]

is there any way after this interaction that Bell could EVER be town?

You’re acting squirrelly.
Maybe it’s just your nature or how you talk.

[Bell]

Also, it’s good to know that you’re the weak type and that as long as I just leave you alone you’ll never scum read me for later reference.

[Bell]

Yes, but the way you were wording it was outright confusing to me. Because I thought you were all town and that the society wasn’t but then you said you thought they said they were confirmed the same alignment to them too. Which confused me.

[Bell]

I’m a guy.

[Bell]

So I pushed you. Which you do not like even when it’s absolutely normal for me to want to have clarification on this point given how important it is to my understanding of the game.

[Bell]

Yes, but the way you were wording it was outright confusing to me. Because I thought you were all town and that the society wasn’t but then you said you thought they said they were confirmed the same alignment to them too. Which confused me.

Now you're confusing me too. What are you talking about?

everyone's confused. but she's just scum trying to work out what the hell is going on, now they are basically in a position where they can't make any wrong moves.

Your lack of imagination is your problem.

[Bell]

I’ll get the quotes and explain mine issue. I’ll be back in a little. Driving home.

[Bell]

But suffice to say my understanding was that town+ all confirmed, society not but they’re assuming or they are.

Then MM said that Titus, mastina and Nero were all confirmed to each other.

[Bell]

You’re conflating your position in the game with your imagination outside of it.

It’s clear you’re weak to pressure and hate being given a hard time.

[Bell]

Nerocain still needs to be on that wagon.

I think.

[Bell]

You’re conflating your position in the game with your imagination outside of it.

It’s clear you’re weak to pressure and hate being given a hard time.

erm, I think you're just trying to make personal comments to me because you're weak at reading and can't understand what's going on even when I've just explained it to you twice.

Look, you suddenly said that the society were confirmed aligned with one another and then refused to find it.
This hurt my understanding of the gamestate and I needed clarification. This in addition to the sudden argument from the perspective of everybody else confused me. So I wanted an answer to this question.and you called me scum for it.

If anyone lacks reading comprehension it’s you, if it’s not just an emotional reaction to being given a hard time there’s no substance to your scum read strengthening given my recent posts.

[Bell]

Your lack of imagination is your problem.

you say that but you dont have enough imagination to fully understand me!!

I can’t argue with this.

[Bell]

Yes. A50, MM, and SB are all town+ish.

[Bell]

Sure MM.
I guess I just recognize your emotional weakness because I do the same thing.

Or i’m projecting or both.

To me it’s pretty obvious tho.

[Bell]

I can tell you’re not going to admit you’re Human anytime soon tho.
Go cool off.

[Bell]

I hurt his feelings. /:
Why do I do this to people.

[Bell]

Being bullet proof means you don’t have to take responsibility for anything.

[Bell]

@SB: basic summary: I stated my understanding of the game state in regards to the society and the interns (that he interns were all town while society may not be). He said he thought that they had claimed to all be of the same alignment via role pm.

I get confused and ask for clarification.
BM makes a bunch of posts talking to other people.
I get impatient and annoyed.
He answers:
Great.

The rest is just him calling me scum and saying he doesn’t have feelings to hurt
End~

[Bell]

So if scum just need to outnumber town to win doesn't that make us at yelo?

maybe but we're doing pete today anyway. and if we have an even-night vig, they will shoot Bell. which should buy us a bit of breathing room.

Shooting BELL will give us breathing room?

Actually if you change the ‘us’ to ‘me’ the posts makes a lot more sense.

[Bell]

It’s a lot harder to find a post that doesn’t exist than to find one that does.

They never objected to my understanding of the gamestate either.

I mean you’re calling me lazy scum, when i’m just over here being lazy town because the confirm town have insisted that they run the show and that the regular town play a supporting role. I’m okay with this and I see no reason to comment on the game state today when the elimination is confirmed and to my understanding changes will occur to Nero, mastina’s and titus’s Role
Or if they miss again they get ejected from the game(?) or something.

I’ll start arguing again when there’s room to argue.

[Bell]

I’m home now.

[Bell]

While nerocain, Titus, and Mastina are not.

Nero, Titus, and I are confirmed to each other, just as 3p not as town.

Oh, so none of you can be scum unless all of you are scum is what you’re saying?

[Bell]

Still a guy.

[Bell]

If you broke the game why do you want me to help you solve rn math?

[Bell]

If you broke the game why do you want me to help you solve rn math?

Because I understand HOW it’s balanced doesn’t mean I know WHO goes where

Oh.
Well I think the remaining scum are not you and not me.

And maybe not S_S and we win because mastina just said they were all confirmed third party. Which means that because the game isn’t bastard none of them can be scum unless they all are and I find that strategy unlikely.

Did I math fail??

[Bell]

Could you stop saying weakened and just town stump me already.

[Bell]

Probably ongoing game.

[Bell]

this game’s a lot closer to being solved and almost inescapably solved?

Shouldn’t the scum team concede?
Can they even win anymore?

[Bell]

Guess we’ll find out next day phase or two.
Or the game ends.
Either or.

[Bell]

I personally think Pete is town.

[Bell]

This is all a conspiracy.

[Bell]

Oh. I think I understand.
Maybe S_S is scum just because he seems like the type to figure it out and I don’t think it’s math.

[Bell]

shellyc
Tayl0r Swift
TheGoldenParadox

ShellyC
GoldenParadox
Chemist1422.

Well that's annoying.

Only one kill. Unless block.

[Bell]

Repeating:
Town+
: A50, SB, MM.

Town:
Norwe:
Bell.

Achieved win condition:
Titus, Nerocain. Mastina. Town siding.

Why no announcement?

[Bell]

VOTE: shellyc

well, shelly is scum!

looks like scum have finally begun killing the masons. too late.

She is?

[Bell]

VOTE: ShellyC

[Bell]

Who's the 6th confirmed townie.
I feel like scum for asking this.
But I expect to be getting' some shit.

[Bell]

Yeah, if that investigation was scum controlled that was quite dumb.

[Bell]

On the otherhand, why didn't they just confirm Norwe and then kill Norwe same night.

[Bell]

I'm on a quest to be able to Read shellyC and I did not see her scum game. This game.
._.
I guess she was salty at the set up.

@Pedit; Oh, okay Math.

[Bell]

I tried very hard not to see this game as too easy given the last time I thought it and how town sided it was.
But it really depended on whether third party town sided or (if they had the option) scum sided.

Probably the first day tipped them that way. So titus and Nero are just regular town now. With whatever fancy powers they have left.

[Bell]

How many miseliminations do we have before town loses?

[Bell]

Not following.
Yes, they could all be scum tho. It says at least, which means one or more. If scum controlled I thought they might have been hiding in that stuff but then they added you and that kind of 1v1 isn't a good move when I'm prtty sure they need to be trading up not down.

[Bell]

Obvious conclusion was that it's just a bussing scenario but you don't SOUND like you're bussing.

[Bell]

If it's scum controlled they clearly are forced to not repeat the same 3 names or there are additional rules.

[Bell]

Okay math,
Imo, It's shelly, DiamondC and I dunno who the other one is.
They both sound salty about the set up.

[Bell]

Oh yeah, diamond is dead.

[Bell]

I have not been sleeping well this past week in my defense.

[Bell]

*flips table*

Shelly, Chemist, Math, S_S, TGP, Taylorswift.
Are literally the only players remaining that can be scum in this game state from my POV.
It's unwinnable from a conventional stand point unless they manage to convince everyone to eliminate me and two other town.

*takes deep breath*

*Raises hand*
I'm a townie.

[Bell]

TBF, I've scum slipped as town and scum.
And town slipped as both alignments too. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes not.

[Bell]

Vanilla.

[Bell]

She said she didn't care much this game, which I interpreted to mean this was her town game because she enjoys rolling scum.
But it looks like she just doesn't count this as an L.

[Bell]

It's cool Nero.
She's just jealous.

[Bell]

Mathblade, defending his sister from accusations of beard racism.

*This is gentle ribbing and not meant to be hurtful*

[Bell]

math hardpushing me is ehhh??

I think I kind of have to start thinking out of the box given scum are clearly trying to miselim me today. TGP/S_S/Taylor is the easiest solve but I don't see scum!taylor at all through the posting and. I'm still not fully buying chemist claim

Well, this clearly isn't trying to put an anchor on me by creating false associations.
Also, the wording used here is kind of wrong in that it's you thinking out loud.
"Hmm, hmm! It seems like scum want to eliminate me today! I shall self-narrate my internal-self narration for the audience which is YOU Gentle town viewer."

[Bell]

I get no points for late shellyc scum read.
But I do wanna lock this in.

[Bell]

i feel like a small fish in a big pond being pushed by the informed minority

pedit: bell i skimmed all your posts because you're rather obvious town

Yes, little Shelly, Being pushed around by the big scary informed minority.

[Bell]

*spins*

Well, she's not wrong.
She did directly try to paint me as a deep wolf last game tho. This time she's just insinuating it if's she's scum instead of saying that part out loud.

Also, yeah. Ton confusion from her posts rn. I'm confused I mean. Well, I can't articulate it, but whatever.

[Bell]

I'm mocking her because she's proud of her scum game and she's not a little fish in a big pond.
She's a shark.

[Bell]

Well, I'm manipulated.

[Bell]

UNVOTE:

*spins*

[Bell]

Nero, don't assume the worst of people.

[Bell]

Did i rly just say that in tyool 2020.

[Bell]

No u rite.
mb.

[Bell]

Eliminate, lunch, space, end, assassinate.

Cmon' the mods nice nough to mod for us. Least we can do is respect his wishes.

[Bell]

elim.it's even less letters and requires less wrist movement.

[Bell]

Strike 1. @5583.
Pretty sure that doesn't work due to the invstigations.

I know Nero, there was no ill feeling in bringing it up.

This is very much not my meta for sucm partner interaction if you're into that. Regarding Math and I.

[Bell]

I'm not, I'm pretty obvious town when you think about it.
my voice is different.
If I changed my avatar and name you wouldn't even know it was me.

[Bell]

Who do you think is scum, bell?

I think if you eliminate everybody not confirmed but me we're good here.
If you could save mathblade for last I would appreciate it, since I'm town reading that one.

[Bell]

Okay math,
Imo, It's shelly, DiamondC and I dunno who the other one is.
They both sound salty about the set up.

Dumbtell Bell.

It rhymes.

[Bell]

VOTE: Taylorswift

Good night. <3

[Bell]

blame Titus.

Its not all bad, I mean we may miss our wincon but at least town will win so...

I will

NEVER

vote Taylor here because of this post.

Nero claimed 3P siding town. This reads to me like Nero’s hood is full of BS.

I cannot and will not believe that Nero is gamethrowing his own wincon so then the only option I have is Taylor is lock town.

Not following.

[Bell]

Like maybe I'm a sucker but the idea hat taylor wouldn't want to suicide bomb someone for the lolz is weird to me.