Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

[Brian Skies]

Yeah, I've thought about it and I'm definitely picking Muffincho tonight.

Should probably figure out what we're going to do with Reagan since they really want to use their ability.

[Brian Skies]

Eww. Change your avi back.

[Brian Skies]

You're not hedgy enough to be AP anyway.

[Brian Skies]

Just as a heads up, there isn't a single claim that would keep me from lynching them aside from a mod-confirmed innocent townie.

[Brian Skies]

I know, which is silly in and of itself.

You do know I mean that in general and not regarding a specific player, yeah?

[Brian Skies]

I presume we lynch Noraa -> LLD.

[Brian Skies]

Which kinda sorta entices me into lynching Spiffeh for that alone.

But I'd rather just lynch Noraa -> LLD.

[Brian Skies]

Spiffeh has 9 votes.

[Brian Skies]

And Noraa isn't one of them, just fyi.

[Brian Skies]

The fact someone with a claimed guilty on them isn’t hammering a counterwagon should tell you all you need.

She's probably waiting for someone to vote so she

can

hammer.

[Brian Skies]

Oh, should I give her the honor?

[Brian Skies]

Also, some of you might find it kind of shocking, but I still don't townread Cobra Kai.

I don't know what it is. I just don't.

[Brian Skies]

I presume we lynch Noraa -> LLD.

And what will end in a town stomp then get a big ugly black mark where we mislynched one of the better town players to play the game who also happened to have a confirmable role

Confirmable != town.

[Brian Skies]

I thought I taught some of you this when I caught Alisae/Titus when they were a mod-confirmed Loud Doctor.

[Brian Skies]

I thought I taught some of you this when I caught Alisae/Titus when they were a mod-confirmed Loud Doctor.

Except no one in that game listened to me so I had to steal a gun from their scumpartner just so I could shoot them.

[Brian Skies]

Brian I’m down to dance whenever you are.

It will probably require me to read through your wall at least, and I've definitely avoided doing so.

I'm not really that worried about you, I just don't get those warm and fuzzy townfeels I fell like I should be getting from someone with your playstyle.

It could be because you say silly things like 'Noraa hasn't hammered this wagon yet which should tell you something' when she's never been in the position to hammer, but there ya go.

[Brian Skies]

If Spiffeh is town I want to look at bear more. He’s my weakest read on the 6 vote Spiffeh wagon

Also this doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. Like a Spiffeh town-flip makes you want to go to midwaybear instead of Nora-scum which I just find really ehhhh.

[Brian Skies]

*Snip*

We already have a claimed guilty on Noraa.

[Brian Skies]

Don't think there's a significant chance that bork gave mafia a one-shot vig - think he's prolly still traumatized from Touhou Mafia when he gave muffin-me-BROseidon a one-shot poisoner!

Oh, you were talking about Spiffeh.

Idk. I might just be interested to see who he shoots. If he somehow ends up shooting scum, then *profit*. If not, then w/e.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Brian Skies]

You're being uncharitable

Maybe.

[Brian Skies]

I honestly don't care enough to tell Gamma not to visit Noraa at this point. Just let him do what he wants since he's adamant about it.

[Brian Skies]

I will definitely not be here the next two days.

[Brian Skies]

Mine matches, but it's the bare minimum.

[Brian Skies]

Better than being the bird that got hit by Randy Johnson's fastball.

[Brian Skies]

Cabd, on a scale of 1-10, how confident are you in this?

[Brian Skies]

After looking at it again, I've lost all interest in the Spiffeh wagon.

If that flips scum, cool, but I'm not seeing it anymore.

[Brian Skies]

After looking at his posts in conjunction with Spiffeh's, I think it's a town slot.

Pretty sure Guill was crumbing his vig, and he kind of seemed to enjoy the fact that he got it.

I still like his later posts with his votes, even if it might seem a bit weird if all of Cakez/LLD/Noraa ended up being scum.

[Brian Skies]

But you guys do you. I got other things to do.

[Brian Skies]

Well maybe. I was mainly referring to this post.

He even put it in red.

[Brian Skies]

Let me phrase like this.

Scum want to visit Noraa. If you are town and visit you ruin any chance town has to catch scum who might visit her.

Do you see how the flowchart establishes that me doing my plan doesn't remove the ability to get that guilty at all?

They're saying that they want all drivers accounted for. So anyone who isn't confirmed visiting not-scum is suspicious.

So if you visit scum, any scum drivers that may still be in play won't have to visit her.

[Brian Skies]

This is a lore term, not a crumb, no?

It's a flavor character crumb.

I think it depends on your interpretation of what counts as a crumb.

He put it in big red letters. Maybe it's important, maybe not. Either way he was clearly drawing attention to it.

If you don't believe it, then don't let that stop you from doing whatever it is you've been doing. I just won't be on the wagon.

P.S. I looked up what a blade eater was Day 1 when I first saw it. I've also looked up flesh eaters. It could go either way. I still think this slot is more likely to be town than LLD. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Brian Skies]

Let me phrase like this.

Scum want to visit Noraa. If you are town and visit you ruin any chance town has to catch scum who might visit her.

Do you see how the flowchart establishes that me doing my plan doesn't remove the ability to get that guilty at all?

They're saying that they want all drivers accounted for. So anyone who isn't confirmed visiting not-scum is suspicious.

So if you visit scum, any scum drivers that may still be in play won't have to visit her.

That makes more sense. But idk why my plan disrupts cobra's idea?

Because if you visit her, her buddies won't have to and can get confirmed visiting other players.

[Brian Skies]

your wholehearted devotion to these two lims feels agenda-driven

Yes, it's called lynching scum.

[Brian Skies]

I don't think your adamance about it is natural, though. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't think this is an especially strong tell, but it's also not the only thing that's bugged me about you.
But on the point in question, it feels like you're trying to project a townie driven to push his scumreads rn. It feels like your confidence isn't legitimate, but there for appearances. The key reason I feel this is you didn't flinch in your beliefs when it looked like LLD and Claire were clearing each other for night action stuffs.

K.

[Brian Skies]

but also think spiffeh wouldn't have played it out this way as town

Nah, this is a former paragon of scumhunters or whatever it's called.

He definitely wouldn't give up the chance to vig somebody.

But don't worry, I'm sure your confidence here isn't misplaced.

[Brian Skies]

Votecount 2.X

[9] Spiffeh (MariaR, midwaybear, Firebringer, Cabd, Flavor Leaf, Dunnstral, Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, Gamma Emerald)
[5] noraa (Will catch up later maybe, l4pe, unwnd, Brian Skies, Battle Mage)
[1] Flavor Leaf (noraa)

[5] Not Voting (beeboy, Spiffeh, ManWithNoName, REAGAN BUSH 84, Cobra Kai)

11 to fade.

[Brian Skies]

actual vc here

Rude.

[Brian Skies]

Brian I want you to know I forgot what I didn't like about you, and now just noticed we are on the same wagon

That's cool.

I've been on this wagon for a while though. Just been vacillating on whether I wanted to end Spiffeh or not, and I've pretty much lost any passion for that fade.

[Brian Skies]

Man, I'm going to have a really tough time picking between Reagan and Nacho tonight.

There's gotta be an easier way to settle this.

Cabd, which slot do you think is more likely to be town?

[Brian Skies]

Kay. I'm going Muffincho.

[Brian Skies]

What? I love bingo!

[Brian Skies]

I realize Reagan is probably the better play, but I would very much like to talk to MuffinCho. So I'm probably going to stick with that.

[Brian Skies]

Who were your drivers again? Bell and Firebringer?

[Brian Skies]

Hey guys I'm back have you all come to your senses yet or are you still voting out the claimed vig over an actual guilty?

You're at E-2.

Cabd is trying to coax extra votes out of players so Cobra Kai can hammer you with a some wagon speech.

[Brian Skies]

js my speech will look best on mafblack

Was there any other format?

[Brian Skies]

Seeing as how it's currently Spiffeh v Noraa, I'm fine with this.

[Brian Skies]

Maria/LLD claimed pretty much innocent to each other in some form and nobody batted an eye.

No, I definitely complained about this.

[Brian Skies]

I felt like it's best settled tomorrow, it's not that I don't care at all.

I'm not in any rush to deal with it, I just wanted to state I didn't like it.

[Brian Skies]

Well, not so much that I didn't like it, but I definitely didn't agree with it.

[Brian Skies]

Remember LLD is very likely town cause I'm alive

that's all.

Byeeeee

This is flawed on so many levels, but I don't really feel like explaining it to you.

We're not killing her today nor will you listen to me if I die so does it matter?

She's asserting here that LLD must be town because she lived Night 1.

I don't believe there's any world where Maria is a bigger threat than the combination of Syry/Ffery/Tammy. Idk that much about Syry, but Ffery is definitely a good enough player to draw early NK's and I can only think of one game off the top of my head that Tammy actually made it past N1 in a game with me.

This isn't a dig at Maria by any means. I just don't see how that slot survives past N1, especially based on their push against Noraa at the end of D1 if Noraa is scum here.

[Brian Skies]

I also care about it, do you have any fresh theories that isn't just retreading the same ground that we've seen for 50+ pages now?

I've said a lot of things about LLD this game. I don't really have anything to add than what I've said. And I do feel like I've said a lot.

It's fine if people don't agree with me. Like I said, I'm not in any rush to go there right now.

[Brian Skies]

He's saying you should vote the guilty instead of trying to count your chickens before they hatch.

[Brian Skies]

Do you understand how silly it is not to give a one-shot vig the opportunity to shoot?

If it were anyone other than Spiffeh, I would definitely hesitate over this.

[Brian Skies]

Like, I don't even know why we're trying to rush in eliminating Spiffeh.

Don't we still have like 9 days left?

[Brian Skies]

I don't remember ever defending Cakez. But I also never got to vote him. ):

[Brian Skies]

following logic is both how you catch and get swept by scumLeaf. It's a catch 22.

Are you trying to convince us you're scum?

[Brian Skies]

Lol.

[Brian Skies]

Pretty sure Battlemage claimed invulnerability, but you're not a Driver, so...

[Brian Skies]

Votecount 2.X

[9] noraa (Will catch up later maybe, l4pe, unwnd, Brian Skies, Battle Mage, Spiffeh, REAGAN BUSH 84, Flavor Leaf, Bell)
[6] Spiffeh (MariaR, midwaybear, Firebringer, Dunnstral, Lady Lambdadelta, Gamma Emerald)
[1] Flavor Leaf (noraa)

[4] Not Voting (beeboy, ManWithNoName, Cobra Kai, Cabd)

11 to fade.

[Brian Skies]

Votecount 2.X

[11] noraa (Will catch up later maybe, l4pe, unwnd, Brian Skies, Battle Mage, Spiffeh, REAGAN BUSH 84, Flavor Leaf, Bell, Cabd, Gamma Emerald)
[5] Spiffeh (MariaR, midwaybear, Firebringer, Dunnstral, Lady Lambdadelta)
[1] Flavor Leaf (noraa)

[3] Not Voting (beeboy, ManWithNoName, Cobra Kai)

11 to fade.

[Brian Skies]

I'm going to be busy for the next ~36 hours or so. Can I just claim now?

[Brian Skies]

I would never.

[Brian Skies]

Thank you for the game, Bork!