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Outworld claimed he was, but I don't really think so. That was kind of a weird game, but he's not what I typically consider lim bait- MURDERCAT
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It's about an ongoing game it seems and it's probably better to not bring it up again per Noraa's wishes- MURDERCAT
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This game is either going to be really easy or really hard- MURDERCAT
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E-1?
You wanna claim outworld
At least give final thoughts, sorry if you are town but I think this is actually a highly informative flip- MURDERCAT
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scum = ez game ez life
town = actually have to think
I think a lot of people were lightly shading there so if he is town I'm going to look back through and find those people. I also think people might consider someone like purple to be an informative flip but I actually think that following the trajectory of the outworld wagon will be a lot easier.
That said, I am still hoping scum- MURDERCAT
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I don't think Flea scum tracks with scum in Infinity/gamma/purple
But I do agree on that POV if you are town- MURDERCAT
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This is what happens when I get free TRsIn post 1422, Infinity 324 wrote:Even if you were 100% town, I feel a lot more comfortable with this game with you putting more effort into it
I have plans for the hood don't worry- MURDERCAT
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ok fine I'll rereadIn post 1428, Infinity 324 wrote:UNVOTE: sorry for being prickly about this, I really want to see more from murder- MURDERCAT
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I'm going to do it with the assumption are flip outworld and he is town because that's the universe I'm most interested in anyway- MURDERCAT
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Purple what is the consensus read on Noraa from your slot?- MURDERCAT
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Aggressiveness is a scum tell for youIn post 1494, kookiemonster wrote:
this is actually bad tho murder. you are the most firm that I am town but you also say ... this.In post 1456, MURDERCAT wrote:I could flip Noraa tbh- MURDERCAT
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In post 1477, MURDERCAT wrote:Purple what is the consensus read on Noraa from your slot?- MURDERCAT
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Was outworld hammered? I don't think so right??- MURDERCAT
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Oh shit I thought tracy was e-1In post 1505, Infinity 324 wrote:Me, gamma, you, purple, tracy yeah
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@purpleIn post 1500, MURDERCAT wrote:In post 1477, MURDERCAT wrote:Purple what is the consensus read on Noraa from your slot?- MURDERCAT
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If you make itIn post 1548, Purple Heart wrote:Can I ask for a rain check and get back to you on D2?
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In post 1558, Purple Heart wrote:mostly because I really like staring at your avatar.
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Actually how far back are you, that question might be worthless- MURDERCAT
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We flipped outworld so figure out if scum pushed him- MURDERCAT
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Does the fact outworld didn't know he was hammered and then he dipped after finding out suggest he might be scum or am I being optimistic- MURDERCAT
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I can't tell if you are wifoming lol I'm just gunna wait for the hood- MURDERCAT
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I have things I want to get out of people first, including a full reads list from uncrowned, you, Noraa, and tracy- MURDERCAT
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tracy flick
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You are welcome to. My guess is scum didn't have info and shot a nevered docced targetIn post 1622, Uncrowned wrote:or we could ask the question as to why any of the council arent dead? is that not a thing we're going to pose here orrrr?- MURDERCAT
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I'm not giving council info until I have read lists- MURDERCAT
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The conf town said flip flea right before he died? Is one good reasonIn post 1627, Taly wrote:Why was Flea never an option to be doctored?- MURDERCAT
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that's fineIn post 1635, Purple Heart wrote:Murder I’ll give you something to work with when ur ready.
I’m just waiting for things atm.
I think the kill is important and I’m waiting because I want to see what scum do.
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I'm not sure I understand why it doesn't answer the question. Someone who was conf towned had just accused Flea and there had been a general air of suspicion about the slot in general. Flea dying is good because it removes a potential miselim in the future, no? So we wouldn't have docced there.In post 1638, Purple Heart wrote:And that doesn't answer my question well, did your read with Flea change at all in the council?- MURDERCAT
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I have a lot to say after tracy and Noraa postIn post 1640, Uncrowned wrote:If you think he's town I'd appreciate your POV on why.- MURDERCAT
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The idea of doccing flea never came upIn post 1666, kookiemonster wrote:Sorry, have to ask - did you all specifically state flea would never be doc'd in your discussion?- MURDERCAT
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This was a misconception that was corrected, we were aware we could doc anyoneIn post 1668, kookiemonster wrote:u can only doc someone in the council so murder infinity and gamma.- MURDERCAT
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I'll just say I'm pretty confident I know the scum team, just waiting on tracy post- MURDERCAT
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I did reread and I posted most of it in the hood- MURDERCAT
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Ty tyIn post 1686, Purple Heart wrote:You know what Murder
I'll throw you a bone.
Noraa, Uncrowned, Murder
Tracy
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I want to know if scum knows our result. Waiting on reese- MURDERCAT
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I have a decent understanding of the gamestate right now, just trust me
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I know more than youIn post 1710, Purple Heart wrote:I don't think you understand shit Flareon- MURDERCAT
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why so down on gamma? Didn't you vote him onto the council?- MURDERCAT
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Can you quote a post or two, not sure I followIn post 1726, tracy flick wrote:
no, the only person i voted for council was you. well other than myself. gamma emerald behaviour change with purple heart entrance feels not right to me.In post 1723, MURDERCAT wrote:why so down on gamma? Didn't you vote him onto the council?- MURDERCAT
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Like where you thought his behavior changed? Where did you think he was being opportunistic?In post 1733, tracy flick wrote:
like gamma was fairly inactive and then it felt like he saw an opportunity to me, not sure what you want me to quoteIn post 1728, MURDERCAT wrote:Can you quote a post or two, not sure I follow- MURDERCAT
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This is the list we are dealing with:
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Purple Heart
Gamma Emerald
Of this list, I'm obviously aware that I am town and I have decently strong TRs on Uncrowned and Noraa. I think those are pretty uncontroversial. That leaves us with this:
Infinity 324
tracy flick
Purple Heart
Gamma Emerald
If we picked totally randomly, here are the odds of having scum on the council:
0: 43%
1: 49%
2: 8%
Considering that scum is obviously also trying to get on the council (and has the info to make this easier), the odds there is scum on it is even higher. Now for results:
tracy did not go anywhere last night.
We docced Infinity and Flea was the target
This should further increase the probability that scum was on the council because we also missed two independent 1/8 shots.
Now for what happened in the council.We assumed that there was no scum on the council.
If there was scum on the council the track would be useless and the doc would be mostly useless so IMO this was the best course of action. Assuming MURDERCAT/Infinity/Gamma were all clear led Infinity and I to the possible scum pair of tracy/purple for a number of reasons.
But now we have to account for both possible universes.
If there is no scum on the council, what play makes the most sense? To me, I think you just have to send whichever player is more TRd and shoot a somewhat universal TR and hope for the best, I mean that's what you do in a normal game that might have a tracker and doc right?
In the universe where there is scum on the council there are I think two plays that make the most sense.
1. Use the info to kill a universal TR without fear of doc and track
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2. No kill to get a hard TR for the people on the council
But scum instead killed Flea. Why?
I think there is scum on the council. The flea kill is trying to take a middle of the road approach, making it look like there is no scum on the council (like they were worried about doc) while also framing Purple because there was so much talk about purple in the hood. Why is this better than a no kill? I think becausetracy is the partner and they wanted the inno on tracy.
Framing purple is clearly something that is on tracy's mind. I don't believe anyone else brought up this possibility so explicitly so far today.In post 1714, tracy flick wrote:
yeah, purple heart or framing purple heart seem most likely optionsIn post 1592, Uncrowned wrote:Flea is an interesting selection. Surface level NKA points to Purple potentially wanting that slot dead judging by end of day interactions between the two of them, I think?
well from your pov, since all of the wagon is still alive and you weren't on it, yeahIn post 1594, Uncrowned wrote:Also I just realized there's a high ass probability of 2 scum on wagon. This is gonna be fun.
So who is the scum on the council? I will say I think it's Gamma. Obviously I know it's not me and Infinity had good posts in the hood and I don't think his progression on me makes much sense at all if he is scum. Gamma on the other hand was basically absent from the hood, though of course there is the holiday and stuff so read as much into that as you want.
So anyway,my solve is Gamma, Tracy
This is also based on some associative work I did in the hood by looking at all of the proposals. In particular I want to draw attention to 119 and 829 that suspiciously mention tracy (IMO, I mean the iso was basically all mech D1, definitely not a basis for a strong TR).
This is also in addition to what I think is not a lot of scum hunting in Tracy's iso and a suspicious hammer. So basically, I say we flip tracy today and exclude Gamma from the council.- MURDERCAT
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I suggested the assume we are town approach. Infinity and Gamma agreed with the logic. I had my associative work prepared, which lead me to these possible teams (again, assuming no scum on council):
{tracy, Purple}
{Noraa, Purple}
{Uncrowned, Purple}
From there is was fairly obvious which team had the highest likelihood based on our reads. This also fit with a read list that Infinity had given before I posted my work. Infinity suggested that he be docced because he was worried about you killing him. I suggested an unlikely doc target who was still TR'd would be good, namely Uncrowned. Gamma was absent for this part of the conversation. As for the track, Infinity thought you might be wifoming when you said to track tracy, so that's why we went there.- MURDERCAT
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You are welcome to make an argument for it, but I think tracy should be the flip today. I think there examples of associations between Gamma and tracy (even just now when I pressed about the read there) but I think I should wait until we get confirmation of tracy's alignment. - MURDERCAT
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