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Did I not address your concerns?In post 1119, Infinity 324 wrote:
No it’s because I literally keep getting paranoia on your slot and shit like this is not helping tbhIn post 1118, Purple Heart wrote:The only reason why I can see you leaving me out of the council is if you want to kill meHydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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this is really sudden and I’m not sure how to feel about Infinity leaving me out to die because this is what it feels like.In post 1120, MURDERCAT wrote:
That makes infinity less likely to be scum not moreIn post 1116, Purple Heart wrote:Infinity are you scum?Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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so 1073 invalidates everything else to you?In post 1126, Infinity 324 wrote:
Kinda but then you posted more and I got paranoid more. 1073 really didn’t feel towny to me. And honestly it feels like you’re being emotionally manipulative rn which is frustrating no matter what your alignment is.In post 1122, Purple Heart wrote:
Did I not address your concerns?In post 1119, Infinity 324 wrote:
No it’s because I literally keep getting paranoia on your slot and shit like this is not helping tbhIn post 1118, Purple Heart wrote:The only reason why I can see you leaving me out of the council is if you want to kill meHydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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I mean I trusted you and this feels like you stabbing me in the back.In post 1129, Infinity 324 wrote:Like, I don’t know you. I haven’t played with you in over 3 years and even then not that much. I don’t know why you’re expecting me to trust you.
PEdit: It wasn’t just that one post read my ISO. I hate this conversation.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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Like, I thought I addressed your concerns and you felt satisfied with them?In post 1129, Infinity 324 wrote:Like, I don’t know you. I haven’t played with you in over 3 years and even then not that much. I don’t know why you’re expecting me to trust you.
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If you were right about Uncrowned being town and he died N1
Do you know how good that is for town? Uncrowned isn’t a consensus townread and him dieing would really help a lot of people out with their reads.
Now if I die N1, then you allowed scum to kill me for free. Why do you want to allow scum to kill me for free?Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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DUDEIn post 1134, Infinity 324 wrote:No one deserves a townread. I’m sorry.
ITS DAY 1
HOW DO YOU GET THIS PARANOID ON DAY 1
How is that even possible there’s literally no information or flips to go off of. Being paranoid is usually a LATE GAME thingHydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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Okay look Infinity, I’m being rather harsh.
I’m just upset and caught off guard by how sudden this feels? Like it feels weird.
If you really feel like no one deserves a townread and its d1, you need to trust people. It’s easy to be paranoid and not trust people but you have to. The game of mafia is built on trust and relies on it.
I’m sorry I’m giving you a hard time, but the game of mafia is founded on trust.
Yes anyone could be scum and anyone could do anything and nothing is outside of anyone’s scumrange, but it is up to you to decide what is impossible and what is possible. Its up to you to way a slot’s townie-ness and scummy-ness and decide which side is heavier then the other. You have to and the game requires you do so.
I’m sorry with how I responded because I thought this might be some agenda based move, and if it still is this will help me identify that, but if you’re town and you are just having issues trusting people, you have to trust people.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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Why does Taly actually TR you? I don’t get it because you post shit like this but it’s like you don’t care to think through how I would be feeling about the situation.In post 1138, Flea The Magician wrote:ewwwwwww purple is throwing out too much AtE for my likingHydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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I didn’t realize it was to the point that he would flat out post 1134.In post 1144, kookiemonster wrote:
didn't you just criticize me for saying this?In post 1136, Purple Heart wrote:
DUDEIn post 1134, Infinity 324 wrote:No one deserves a townread. I’m sorry.
ITS DAY 1
HOW DO YOU GET THIS PARANOID ON DAY 1
How is that even possible there’s literally no information or flips to go off of. Being paranoid is usually a LATE GAME thing
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it is to a point.In post 1146, kookiemonster wrote:
I dont think nomming anyone for council is "being selfish" but you do you.In post 1143, Purple Heart wrote:Fine.
I still feel like you are being rather selfish about putting Uncrowned in the council
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I’d imagine you would want to fill up the council with consensus townreads that are likely to get shot to try to dissuade scum from shooting in that pool of players.
I don’t think Uncrowned is consensus town and I don’t think he would get shot if he was outside of the council.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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I’m asking you to be empathetic and understand my situationIn post 1150, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 1141, Purple Heart wrote:
Why does Taly actually TR you? I don’t get it because you post shit like this but it’s like you don’t care to think through how I would be feeling about the situation.In post 1138, Flea The Magician wrote:ewwwwwww purple is throwing out too much AtE for my liking
Sooooo you respond to me calling out AtE.... by deflecting with AtE....
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Because I’m a universal TR I’m obvtown and I feel like if I don’t get on the council then I will 100% be the night kill. Is this not good enough of a reason to be annoyed?In post 1159, kookiemonster wrote:I dont understand why ur so annoyed about not being on council like I was a universal TR and then people just randomly shaded me and now it's not like imma get a council position but so?Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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Oh yeah let’s leave out the bits where I’m doing my best to find scum because that suits your agenda better yep I’m sure I’ll be able to get away with thatIn post 1160, Flea The Magician wrote:
I'll concede you've contribute a lot more AtE than i have, it feel likes the majority of posts from your head are designed to be emotionally manipulative.In post 1157, Purple Heart wrote:I’ve contributed to the game a lot more then you have and have tried to sort the other players more then what you’re doing
... do you even know what I'm doing?
... doeven know what I'm doing?I
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OhIn post 1162, Infinity 324 wrote:To be 100% clear: I don’t really want uncrowned on the council atp, since he’s not a UTR,butI do think it’s useful to keep track of people’s strongest TRs cause things can change.
Pedit: That’s not a good enough reason to justify allowing me to get killed.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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what the fuckIn post 1168, Flea The Magician wrote:You've 221 posts in this thread, I've barely cracked 90. All I can remember from your head and the slot in general is aLOTof AtE.
Pretty sure I've done more than shout "omg i'm a UTR and obvtown" and demand I be placed on the council.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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- I want a neighborhood with sane people so I can talk about the game as well as have those people keep me in check if I am ever unreasonable because I can get that way and I can deathtunnel people into the ground like how I did with noraa if no one tries to stop me and tell me that I could be wrong.In post 1171, Flea The Magician wrote:Tell me, in your words.....
Why do you want to be on the council? ^_^
- I want to be able to offer my opinion on how to use the abilities
- I feel safer being on the council due to the fact that if scum try to shoot me, their kill might fail.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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In post 1178, Flea The Magician wrote:None of those require you to be on the council. Try again please
I’m pretty sure what Flea is trying to do is just misrepresent my actions because all she’s doing is she’s basically saying that I’m just snowing everyone in the game which to an extent is true but it leaves out everything else that I contributed to the game and they don’t really seem to care given 1168In post 1179, MURDERCAT wrote:
this literally doesIn post 1177, Purple Heart wrote:- I feel safer being on the council due to the fact that if scum try to shoot me, their kill might fail.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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Why wouldn’t I be when I really wanted a neighborhood with Infinity and Gamma?In post 1184, Flea The Magician wrote:You're literally just crying to put you on the council.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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At the moment it felt like Infinity was trying to get me out based on agenda but I misunderstood him.In post 1196, Noraa wrote:1) I used to be a universal TR
2) I think I'm obvtowning
3) its just as possible that I die if I'm not on the council
I find it weird that you call someone else selfish when it really just seems like ur being selfish. I understand the feeling. Whenever I'm scum, I'm always like oh no what if this, this, and this happen. Imma dieeeeee. nuuuuuuu. But like the chances are actually pretty low if u think about it and even if u do die, its not the end of the world.
I guess you are right, I might be a little bit selfish about wanting Gamma in the council but I don’t feel like I’m being unreasonable about wanting to be the council.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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I am trying to highlight the in their PT part.
Wait I’m confused?Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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If I’m misunderstanding mechanics ig I don’t need it like, that badly?
I still am going to push for me, infinity, and gamma neighborhood being formed because I really want that neighborhood and I think that neighborhood is super strong but it wouldn’t actually be the end of the world tbh and I don’t actually know why I’m reacting so much to it then.
I literally thought it was a matter of life or death for me.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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ok boomerIn post 1211, Flea The Magician wrote:
Because you got B U S T E DIn post 1209, Purple Heart wrote:I don’t actually know why I’m reacting so much to it then.
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Flea why do you think I as scum decide to put in a lot of my effort to try to work together with a Noraa who wants to kill me?
I feel like it would be a lot more better to just keep marginalizing her. Its not like she was going to convince anyone anyways.
That or it would just be flat out better for me to just flat out shut up and wait for Taly to maybe try to talk to her because she seemed open to that at the time given she made a post that basically said "Nothing you can say will convince me and you might as well shut up and wait for Taly"
I don't think that makes a whole lot of sense for me to do as scum.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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I needed to go out of my way to try to work together to Noraa and try to get her to listen to me because it helps me sort her.
- I feel like if she was scum, she would continue to push me and stay consistent with her stance that nothing I say will change her mind.
- I feel like if she is town, she would be more open to trying to understand why I acted the way I did.
Hence why I made that move.
It also allows me to judge her progression on my slot easily and determine if that comes from town or if it comes from scum.
I find her unhealing me to be interesting I could see her do that as both alignments.
I feel like if Noraa was scum, she would probably lose her patients with me and would honestly vote me.
I feel like I can confidently say she's town and I don't feel like I needed to even get this far if I was scum because it would have just been easier to marginalize her and kill her.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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I needed to sort Noraa to determine if she was scum pushing me or town who just didn't understand why I acted the way I did.
If you're going to cop out of rebutting my arguement by just calling it wine then I don't know what to tell you.
I don't think you're interested in being right because as town, you have to sort the wine and determine where the poison is.
You quite frankly, don't seem interested in doing that, but rather more interested in painting me as this person who came in and snowed the entire playerlist and only did that.
Like idunno, it just feels like you're more determined to frame my actions as scummy over trying to find the truth.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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If Flea's interpretation of mechanics is true, then coucil members can protect non-council members.In post 1224, MURDERCAT wrote:
I don't get it, if purple is in the council they could be safe if they aren't they can be killedIn post 1201, Purple Heart wrote:Does anyone understand how Flea is suggesting that I am manipulating how mechanics work?
I tried to read it myself and I don’t get it because I don’t see what their point has to do with anything.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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well I asked the mod in thread so we'll now for sure soonIn post 1227, MURDERCAT wrote:
I believe the tracker is universal and the doc is in PT. Otherwise traker makes no senseIn post 1203, Purple Heart wrote:@Kanna- Question. Is the track and protect only limited to the members inside the Council?Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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Flea here's another puzzle for you.
Why am I scum misrepresenting mechancis > town who really just did not know how the setup worked.
You suggested that I was misrepresenting mechanics, but you seem to not care about the possibility that I just misread the setup.
This is also wine btw, however you sorted it.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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Do you think this push from Flea is coming from town? atm I am struggling to see it.In post 1230, MURDERCAT wrote:Flea is probably right, I checked the review threadHydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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it is late tonight and im tired AF so i will elaborate on myinfinity/gammatownreads tomorrow and illuminate the thought process of this hydra better
aliisnt following my case onflea, im still sortingkook, the other person on the council being us is due to our comfort in the current townreads and dissonance on slots the individual head would otherwise introduce as a possible 3rd member.
yall can hold me to the posts, but this is where we are at in the current moment.
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Have played the scum alignment?
If you have, you'll find that you'll be able to come up with a case on every player.
That's because every player's ISO can be spun to be as scummy as possible.
The reverse is true, every player's ISO can be spun to be as townie as possible.
The arguements may not be convincing, but its possible, and because its possible, everything is wine.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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If something can have 2 interpretations, then it is wine.In post 1239, Flea The Magician wrote:
That isn't WIFOM. That's two people picking up on different things and interpreting them differently ^_^In post 1234, Purple Heart wrote:Just as you believe you have a sufficient amount of information to interpret my slot as scum, another player may have a sufficient amount of information to interpret my slot as town.
Its all wine.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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I disagree, I think scum could definitely craft a push like this and I think they definitely would like to.In post 1237, MURDERCAT wrote:
Yes I do it's too hard a push on a pretty uni TRIn post 1232, Purple Heart wrote:
Do you think this push from Flea is coming from town? atm I am struggling to see it.In post 1230, MURDERCAT wrote:Flea is probably right, I checked the review thread
Where do you see the desire in Flea to be right?Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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Believe it or not, I'm not OMGUSing you. I'm giving you chances to explain yourself and show that you may have the desire to be right.In post 1235, Flea The Magician wrote:
This ain't wine ftr, as this doesn't change.In post 1231, Purple Heart wrote:Flea here's another puzzle for you.
Why am I scum misrepresenting mechancis > town who really just did not know how the setup worked.
You suggested that I was misrepresenting mechanics, but you seem to not care about the possibility that I just misread the setup.
This is also wine btw, however you sorted it.
You pushed far too hard on the mechanical aspect and played to emotions to ensure you held power. You've flailed massively under a tweak of pressure from my beautiful self.
You're now OMGUS reacting my posts, continuing to flail and still insisting you're on the council and seem unwilling to even entertain anyone else.
You're either power mad town, third party with a wonky ass win con, or the most likely at the moment - scum.
You're failing to explain yourself which is why I think you're scum.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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why do you think this push from Flea is coming from town?In post 1243, Infinity 324 wrote:Flea I don’t want to write purple off as scum. Yeah they could be scum and the OMGUS and AtE doesn’t look great but I’ve also seen it from town. I just don’t know how to tell emotional town from scum.
Murder, who’s scum besides outworlder?Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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That's not a strong enough reason. As scum, you go after whoever you can craft to be as lynchable as possible.In post 1245, MURDERCAT wrote:
Flea as scum doesn't have enough town cred to make this pushIn post 1242, Purple Heart wrote:I disagree, I think scum could definitely craft a push like this and I think they definitely would like to.Hydra of Taly and Alisae- Purple Heart
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