One Night Stand [Game Over]

[Alisae]

what a player XD

[Alisae]

uncrowned whats your read on me?

[Alisae]

are you sure you're not just OMGUS'ing everyone who scumreads you?
I'm noticing a pattern here

[Alisae]

asking for a friend tbh

[Alisae]

if clidd is scum and the whole concept of there being no NK but scum turn townies into lovers is a thing this makes perfect sense for the record

sees their partner is going down

force associatives between us

lover me with another townie and push me tomorrow with these bad associatibes

2 for 1 and they're still in a decent spot D4 if they get me tomorrow

where the fuck did this come from
like what is this based off of?
There not being a kill?
becuase I'm not sure where you got the scum turns townies into lovers part.

[Alisae]

I am a very self aware player. I know how I am coming off this game.

pooky and hopkirk look like people who don't want to push LHF directly but are coming up with bad reasons to be able to miselim an elimmable slot in the future

if they thought I've been scummy for so long, why not start a wagon?

Ok sure I watch and wait this play out ig

[Alisae]

I don't think its wise to entertain that tbh

[Alisae]

If thats the case then there'll be at least some evidence of it.
Right?

[Alisae]

honestly at that point
just give them a fucking night kill like why would that be a thing?
to hinder a scumteam for no reason?

[Alisae]

Like that sounds genuinely awful

[Alisae]

MT and Uncrowned ywall should actually apologize for coming up with such an awful idea
we don't need to encourage people to replace the factional night kill

You know what
I got a better theory honestly
I'm not sure how much value I should put into it and if its real my ahsoka read might actually need to be a bit weaker

[Alisae]

actually I'm stoned and I didn't actually think my theory out but i dunno how to explain it and if I can't explain it it means I'm too stoned to be thinking

[Alisae]

hell no scum forcing people to fall in love could work. i want it to! Probably not this game though because i'd expect it to be public info.. probably

JUST GIVE THEM A NIGHTKILL

[Alisae]

LIKE WHATS THE POINT YOU FUCKING BAT

THERE'S NO POINT TO IT
YOU'RE BETTER OFF GIVING SCUM A NIGHT KILL

[Alisae]

fuck

[Alisae]

actually its too convoluted to explain and there are questions I can ask myself that just debunk it perfectly so honestly forget about it

[Alisae]

entertaining doesn't mean playable

[Alisae]

ur idea sucks

[Alisae]

honestly tho its not use speculating about it
im sure the truth will come out eventually

[Alisae]

And if scum no killed or something else is at play, I'm sure we'll find out eventually, right?

[Alisae]

kanna what do you think about his claim

[Alisae]

cool!

pooky! let's form a soulbond!

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧

uwu?

[Alisae]

VOTE: clidd

[Alisae]

i honestly don't see myself voting anything else other than that or mena today tbh :/

[Alisae]

4 DAYS????????????

[Alisae]

BY THE TIME 4 DAYS HAS PASTED I'LL BE LIKE
90 YEARS OLD

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

i can't do it

[Alisae]

VOTE: mena

[Alisae]

I'll deal with it Day 3.

[Alisae]

like honestly i'm townreading you for your posting right now if that wasn't clear cuz im a sucker for the stuff that ur posting

[Alisae]

like actually I just don't see how mena isn't scum

[Alisae]

idunno about MT
i mean idunno where to go so I shouldn't rly be shutting things down but the effort man

[Alisae]

why would pooky feel guilty about playing a game honestly

[Alisae]

you only feel guilty about something when you've done something horrible

[Alisae]

its just a game bro

[Alisae]

guys

[Alisae]

guys

[Alisae]

guys

[Alisae]

someone suggested kanna scum

who is scum with her
I can't think of who her partners would be lol

[Alisae]

who was that
that suggestion doesn't make sense

[Alisae]

she's not aligned with clidd, and you can tell because of the stance on me from kanna is high town but the stance from clidd on me was like null.
she's not aligned with uncrowned unless she tried to bus and distance
she's not aligned with pooky because scum doesn't literally call out to their partner like that in thread

[Alisae]

it'd have to be mena and abr honestly

[Alisae]

do i have to aggressively take charge to get people to vote mena?
I don't care if he's on V/LA honestly, How people are reaching the conclusion that this slot is town just doesn't make sense.

[Alisae]

pedit: Do you mean "not scum with"?

ya lol

[Alisae]

hopkirk honeslty seems like scum given my townreads on a lot of other players are just stronger

[Alisae]

i liked his response to when I asked him if he's just OMGUS'ing people.
It felt like he was sorting players.

[Alisae]

also a clidd towngame just ended and i think he looks heaps obvtown here!

compared to a clidd scumgame that i was in: here
with for example this post:

Spoiler:

Subject: mini 2140: partition (this is over)

VOTE: Group 3

clidd, how do you individually read the three inside group 3?

I see Mohab500 as a potential scum for what I mentioned on post 187 and for the strange transition between posts 149, 163 and 166, as he does not contextualize the reason for voting on group 2. Dsj has very strange/confused opinions on posts 49 and 51, which are aggravated on post 189. However, posts 178 and 191 demonstrate a volatility that is making me reflect. In the case of Enomis, I liked post 63 initially, where he performs some calculations to give substance to the opinion, however, the difficulty on presenting a reason for voting on post 90 seemed more like an attempt to highlight the problem than necessarily proposing a solution, considering that he makes the intention of voting explicit but does not execute it, which suggests a scummy slow-push without compromise.

So due to the combination of the impressions I had about the slots, added to the composition speculations I made on post 182, it is very likely that their group has scum.

where there's a lack of emotion and looks like it was written up for the sake of "post needed to be written up". reminds me of this:

Spoiler:

Regarding Kanna, I believe that it is fair, because of our historical context together, that she speculates about scum!Clidd above town!Clidd based on what I have shown so far, but although she attributed a description to the impression she had of my sequence of posts during my interaction with Infinity, she used the "clidd not obvtown = probably scum" argument, which more recently scum players have used to formalize a suspicion about me, something that GuiltyLion did in forest fire and that Menalque and Morning probably remember. For me it would be more organic if she took on a questioning instance, as Menalque and Morning did, but the current instance suggests that she is convinced of what she is talking about, even without enough information to make this kind of inference. But even though I have this negative impression about her,

I see both town!Kanna mistake or malicious scum position!Kanna, which is why she is null to me and not necessarily in the pool next to scum.

@clidd, i don't know i ended up at null. and there were a lot of words which makes me uneasy cause that's very scum!clidd maybe trying to be transparent

best way i can articulate this clidd read is when clidd is town, he's sherlock, when he's scum, he's watson, so he shines a lot less brightly

so yes, i want clidd today

p-edit: what would you like me to talk about?

this just looks tmi to me

That doesn't look like TMI to me or what TMI is at all.

[Alisae]

TMI is like Plusjoyed TRing me for my catchup when no one was TRing me in nacho/tammy's mini theme

[Alisae]

meh ima go back to league.
maybe im not tilted anymore from losing my 2nd promo game due to a karma who wanted to troll their team and not play.
I'm 1-1 so far and I've haven't treated Ranked seriously in a long time

pedit: that was written before I noticed you read it wrong

[Alisae]

i won't vote it until you change ur avatar back to something better and not as offputting

[Alisae]

TRIGGERED

[Alisae]

Alisae you don't think i'm town?

I think MT, Uncrowned, ABR, Pooky, Clidd, Kanna, and Ahsoka are townier than you.

[Alisae]

Like MT and Ahsoka im not going to talk about.
Ahsoka D2 is way better than their D1 and I also have other reasons to townread them
MT is just super townie
Kanna is also just kinda rly townie.
Uncrowned's posting reasonates with me
Pooky doesn't seem scummy at all. I can't think of anything thats wrong with that slot.
Clidd just feels townie given their recent posting and I just can't bring myself to vote the guy that everyone suspects.
ABR is weird but its a townie weird. Honestly maybe this is where I'm wrong? Now that I think about it maybe this is where I'm wrong but idunno.

[Alisae]

i don't know why i wrote line 1 but like my point is like
i have a lot of people that feel like way more townie then you and then I also have mena who just feels scummy

[Alisae]

Like, the only crime Pooky is guilty for is being LHF

[Alisae]

like Idunno what the scummy things are that people are insisting that pooky is just doing. Like what is he doing thats scummy i just don't get it ig

[Alisae]

Whats the reason to do that now over tomorrow when there's hopefully someone else dead which means 1 less person I need to re-consider.

[Alisae]

pooky isn't doing anything scummy, does he normally act overtly scummy as scum?

i mean I don't think he's like
playing towards any scum agenda.

[Alisae]

like I don't think his posts actually come from scum and like if he's scum like what is his plan to help scum get through this day

[Alisae]

like idunno i just don't see it ig

[Alisae]

like if mena starts being townie
then like idunno whats going on and I'll just give someone my vote because I just will need a flip to be able to try to reach any conclusions

[Alisae]

pooky gives me paranoia because he's not as overtly jumping out as a townread as he has before to me every time i've played with him

The most notable pooky games I've experienced were scum!pooky in smoke-filled and town!pooky in an undertale game and also among us
I will say that from my sample size of 1 scum game, that could be a scum!pooky trait?

[Alisae]

That seems fine.
Maybe we should work down from there

[Alisae]

with Uncrowned I felt like he was really trying to sort people that voted him and wasn't really just OMGUSing people just because they voted him. Like I could see what he was trying to do there.

With ABR I had some mindmelds about kanna and clid around the time that they both started posting reads.
He basically posted in hood that kanna/clidd weren't really trying to rock the boat

[Alisae]

with Uncrowned I felt like he was really trying to sort people that voted him and wasn't really just OMGUSing people just because they voted him. Like I could see what he was trying to do there.

With ABR I had some mindmelds about kanna and clid around the time that they both started posting reads.
He basically posted in hood that kanna/clidd weren't really trying to rock the boat

[Alisae]

can you sell me 100% on MT? i kind of get pockety vibes since it feels like they townread me a lot in how we're interacting/how they're looking at the thread but i'm not sure how overtly it comes through in their posting? i'd be annoyed with myself if i ignored the possibility of being pocketed, but i want to make them part of my townblock

hood posting has been pure townie posting and they've definitely been trying to solve. Honestly even if they were scum we're not killing them today

[Alisae]

with Uncrowned I felt like he was really trying to sort people that voted him and wasn't really just OMGUSing people just because they voted him. Like I could see what he was trying to do there.

With ABR I had some mindmelds about kanna and clid around the time that they both started posting reads.
He basically posted in hood that kanna/clidd weren't really trying to rock the boat

Also to continue this thought, I have something to bounce off you atm.


Which readlist do you feel like is more likely to be a readlist posted by scum?

i'm something like this right now

{kanna}

{alisae}

{hopkirk, morning}
{pooky, ahsoka}

{abr, mena}
----- the table
{clidd, uncrowned}

Ok, my distribution looks like this:

{Menalque | Ahsoka | Morning}

{Hopkirk}

{Alisae}

{ABR | Kanna}

{Uncrowned | Pooky}

I believe that the entry of Menalque and the way he expressed himself in the game was towny. I remember doing extensive research (private) on his meta to learn more about scumplay/townplay and I am convinced that I can clearly distinguish when I see scum!Menalque. In general, I feel that he has acted in good faith, which is a characteristic that I associate with town!Menalque and that scum!Menalque has some problems when he tries to emulate imo. It is not a read that I can consider as a lock at the moment, but I will eventually see if I am right or wrong. Regarding Ahsoka and Morning, I have personal reasons to believe that Ahsoka is town, not much related to this game, while Morning reflected me as genuine when I observed her analysis on some posts and I also believe that her frequency/fluency pbp is occurring in a very organic way. I didn't produce much substantial content for analysis, but I would like to see Morning's impressions about me, because in our last game together she interpreted my attitudes very well and I expect an instance similar here.

Hopkirk has not reflected me as scummy in any of his posts since the beginning of the current day stage, maintaining the positive impression I got from D1, primarily in the interactions between him and Ahsoka and the positioning in relation to Infinity. But considering the fact that he didn't produce any towny signals for me today, he is below the top three that I mentioned.

Alisae is a slot that I had a good impression on during D1, but when entering D2 I was unable to capture signals that would sustain or evolve my read from D1. There was a decline, but not in the scummy sense, but in the absence of a more towny presence (from my perspective). I don't know exactly how to read em, so although em dropped to null, I believe the slot is still above ABR/Kanna.

ABR has demonstrated a behavior that I have never seen before from him. But the impression I have of the past in relation to him is a strong duel player, who manages to perform well in both alignments. I remember that in the partition game he was a prominent element for the town victory (and my scum defeat), and in zoey mafia he was very competent as scum. I have difficulty seeing his posts beneficial for a scum!ABR scenario, so I consider he null at the moment until I can understand both sides of the coin. Regarding Kanna, I believe that it is fair, because of our historical context together, that she speculates about scum!Clidd above town!Clidd based on what I have shown so far, but although she attributed a description to the impression she had of my sequence of posts during my interaction with Infinity, she used the "clidd not obvtown = probably scum" argument, which more recently scum players have used to formalize a suspicion about me, something that GuiltyLion did in forest fire and that Menalque and Morning probably remember. For me it would be more organic if she took on a questioning instance, as Menalque and Morning did, but the current instance suggests that she is convinced of what she is talking about, even without enough information to make this kind of inference. But even though I have this negative impression about her, I see both town!Kanna mistake or malicious scum position!Kanna, which is why she is null to me and not necessarily in the pool next to scum.

Regarding the last two, I feel that both are approaching the game with a more empty playstyle, in which I have not been able to absorb much in the AI ​​sense. I don't have any games with Uncrowned or Pooky, so I would appreciate help to read them. I can't differentiate between low energy, LHF or playstyle context.

pedit: Hallo.

[Alisae]

purely from the readslist it'd be Kanna as more sus

Yeah see thats what I think as well knowing that clidd is likely to be town and so is uncrowned :/

[Alisae]

like fuck maybe it is just kanna
idunno :/

[Alisae]

why am I being forced to look for alternatives when we could just do mena is another thing I don't understand.

[Alisae]

like fuck maybe it is just kanna
idunno :/

Alisae read my lips

there is 0 chance Kanna is scum

who is it then

[Alisae]

if i had to compromise on one of those 3 and I couldn't mena for some reason that I can't comprehend I would compromise on ABR

[Alisae]

ABR being scum makes sense if {Kanna, Uncrowned, Clidd} are all town

[Alisae]

btw side note, can anyone explain to me why people are picking hard to play champions that they have a 0% winrate on and consistently run it down with in ranked?
Like I'm trying to do placements since its start of teh season and I'm 5-1 and these players keep picking champions they have a negative winrate w/ and/or consistently run it down with.

I have a 30min dodge timer because I refuse to play with these players.

[Alisae]

i wanna play leaaaaaaaaague

[Alisae]

ig i can play one step from eden to wait out my dodge timer

[Alisae]

I personally think its relaxing when ur not getting trolled

[Alisae]

I had a support karma that decided they were going to just try to steal my jungle camps and do nothing else.
They even flashed to try to steal red from me

[Alisae]

Guys

[Alisae]

Link to VC

Guys

[Alisae]

Guys

[Alisae]

Can we just vote Mena already?

[Alisae]

@Alisae - Clidd has setup a situation where if I'm misfaded, they have Menalque setup to be misfaded too, so I don't think it's Menalque.

Great if Clidd is scum come flip Mena then. If your read is correct, Mena should flip town right?
Because I townread both of you and if I'm townreading scum then Mena should flip town

[Alisae]

If I don't start seeing Mena votes I am going to start throwing a tantrum

[Alisae]

Like how can it seems like the entire game, scumread this slot, but not want to vote it
like the fuck is going on?

[Alisae]

Btw, Alisae, what is your take on Ahsoka?

not interested

[Alisae]

can we just vote the AFK player like its mostly town posting its likely that the AFK player is just scum it literally always is like that

[Alisae]

like mostly everyone is townier than mena like I don't get why people won't vote that slot

[Alisae]

hopkirk come vote mena

[Alisae]

can you think of a reason not to vote mena thats not "he's V/LA we can't vote the V/LA player"

[Alisae]

guys we can't vote the V/LA player even if everyone else is just way more townie
he's on V/LA
We need more from him even tho everyone else is just town

[Alisae]

like holy shit what the fuck is wrong with you guys

[Alisae]

Oh Ali is town ya but no one gives a fuck about what they have to say
they fakeclaimed masons with scum that must mean they're a bad player

[Alisae]

no one has ever said "Oh boy I sure do wish I listened to Ali" ever
no one has ever said that cuz Ali is this trash player who always has scum in eirs townreads because e is just a shit player ig

[Alisae]

but they're town so we can just not care about what they have to contribute
you're just honest if your town that doesn't mean you're right

[Alisae]

It doesn't matter if Ali has been super on fire in all of eirs latest towngames
trash player
don't listen to him
literally is never right on scum

[Alisae]

I still want Ahsoka, so we can hit scum.

Menalque is meh, because it's basically a coinflip, he didn't post much for us to see if he's town or scum.

his scumread on me is bullshit did we forget about this?

Also his entrance into the hood is super sus literally no one ever enters a hood PT with "Oh hey 5 man scum PT wow very cool btw who are we killing?"
hello?

[Alisae]

Like his scumread on me is so bad and like
a lot of other players just seem super fucking townie so like it just has to be him and no one wants to vote him thats honestly the best part too

[Alisae]

no one has ever said "Oh boy I sure do wish I listened to Ali" ever
no one has ever said that cuz Ali is this trash player who always has scum in eirs townreads because e is just a shit player ig

is this at me? i factored your read on FL into mine d1

I'm babyraging because no one wants to vote my scumread

[Alisae]

I still want Ahsoka, so we can hit scum.

Menalque is meh, because it's basically a coinflip, he didn't post much for us to see if he's town or scum.

his scumread on me is bullshit did we forget about this?

Also his entrance into the hood is super sus literally no one ever enters a hood PT with "Oh hey 5 man scum PT wow very cool btw who are we killing?"
hello?

Are you trying to tell me Hectic wouldn't even

consider

saying that as town?

probably not honestly i don't think he shitposts that way
Firebringer does but mena isn't Firebringer

[Alisae]

Also his entrance into the hood is super sus literally no one ever enters a hood PT with "Oh hey 5 man scum PT wow very cool btw who are we killing?"
hello?

there were 10 people alive at night-start.

you really think he thought there was a 5 person scum team with 10 people alive?

its still super weird idunno man??????
seems like Mena needed to organize who needed to die through that PT man

[Alisae]

idunno man but I'm just a washed player who doesn't know anything ig

[Alisae]

"oh but its not really reliable"
fuck you too honestly

ya ig my townreads aren't really reliable townreads and i'm townreading scum, right clidd?

[Alisae]

HOLY SHIT POOKY

[Alisae]

I'M A 2-SHOT DOCTOR WHO PROTECTED AHSOKA

[Alisae]

HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS ARE SO ANNOYING

[Alisae]

.....

[Alisae]

ya no its fake I fakeclaimed 2-shot doctor cuz I was just so tilted over people scumreading the person that I "maybe" saved

[Alisae]

no its not fuck holy shit

[Alisae]

I still scumreading Ahsoka.

Well let's see
you can sheep me and its either
A. He still has a chance to be scum because maybe there's a chance that I didn't protect him OR
B. Mena is town, which means my theory about 2 scum in hood is false, meaning that i likely protected him, meaning that ahsoka is town

[Alisae]

Ok Clidd Shut up ur bad

[Alisae]

u must be just so delusional and full of yourself that you think Ahsoka is still scum even when there's evidence out there to suggest that he could be town

[Alisae]

ya im fakeclaiming ig

[Alisae]

im not a doc

[Alisae]

idunno i just thought it would be a good idea cuz like
there's literally no reason to flip ahsoka over mena and abr cuz those are just better slots to flip like :/

[Alisae]

honestly tho this feels like I'm in a fucking mental asylum

[Alisae]

wait did FL claim?

[Alisae]

there was like a bunch of pages I didn't read

[Alisae]

o

[Alisae]

and we still don't know why he claimed right?

[Alisae]

like it just
happened
right?

[Alisae]

Cuz Mena had to coordinate a kill with someone that’s why

[Alisae]

I don’t see how anyone who doesn’t have to coordinate a kill with someone does that

[Alisae]

thanks, both of you

I don’t see how anyone who doesn’t have to coordinate a kill with someone does that

does what exactly?

and any thoughts on those two summaries?

His first post in the hood was basically a comment about being in a 5 player scum pt and then askin who are we killin

I’m not goin crazy but that’s weird right?

[Alisae]

I can look later cuz I have limited access but u should trust me

[Alisae]

uh, no? granted, i lack context, but menalque is, i'm decently sure, both a fairly good scum player and not stupid. i don't imagine that he would just randomly actually scumslip upon entering a 5 person neighborhood.

is there something i'm missing?

I mean he busses so ya he’s dumb
But I don’t think its a scumslip. I think he just doesnt have scum pt access. What do you think of my theory?

[Alisae]

Well it’s his first post in the hood.
What would you do if you didn’t have scum pt access but a hood with ur partner and 3 other people, and you had to coordinate a kill on someone?

[Alisae]

Remember he’s replacing in

[Alisae]

On night 1 I may add

[Alisae]

It would also explain why no one wants to flip him because he or whoever has his role flipping would be baaaaad.
Rly bad.
Wouldn’t u agree North side lady

[Alisae]

Ya cuz u know jokes are like really ez to hide things in, right?

[Alisae]

Well it’s his first post in the hood.
What would you do if you didn’t have scum pt access but a hood with ur partner and 3 other people, and you had to coordinate a kill on someone?

i have too much respect for basically anyone who isn't a newbie to treat the idea that they replaced in and immediately slipped seriously.

is this your main / one of your main points for menalque being scum?

Dam
That’s a real shame north side lady

[Alisae]

I’m afraid I’ll have to vote u for ur pred’s play
VOTE: nsg
Nothin personal, just business

Pedit: the bat gets it!

[Alisae]

i feel like if i were scum i could literally just talk about who i think was the most likely to die, or who the most likely scum would be to target. i feel like that's not that outlandish a thing to discuss in a hood open at night.

Have u read his iso?

[Alisae]

Funny enough I was actually trying to discuss who would die at night

[Alisae]

So its funny u say that but for some reason there was no kill.
Maybe Mena wasn’t able to coordinate with their partner?
Either way from his play in thread I would call him a fool if he was bussing. Wouldn’t you agree?

[Alisae]

Or fl claimed something scummy

[Alisae]

I can’t figure out a reason other than he let people’s reads get to his head and cracked under pressure

[Alisae]

Honestly I look like the fool the most for trusting ur slot
Honestly that’s a real bad look for me, especially if u were scum, right north side lady?

[Alisae]

Honestly we would never be having this conversation if Mena didn’t scumread me.

[Alisae]

I would probably have just saw the joke and not think twice about it

[Alisae]

Spite? I just think the dude is scum and everyone else seems townie

[Alisae]

Are you trying to associate me with Mena??????

[Alisae]

That’da be really scummy if he flipped scum.
Is that the hill u want to die on?

[Alisae]

No I just want to sort u and I think if u were aligned with me, aka town, you would be interested in this and vote with me.

[Alisae]

Its quite a slog to get people to vote Mena.

[Alisae]

At least take a look at his iso for me?

[Alisae]

why? what about anything of what you know of my play indicates that as town i would vote him for this with you and as scum i wouldn't?

O I just thought that u were the type that could easily figure these things out. I feel like if u we’re town that that would be enough to at least be worth considering. Oh well honestly I’m just happy ur looking at mena’s iso but I don’t think a town!nsg discredits me right away

[Alisae]

why? what about anything of what you know of my play indicates that as town i would vote him for this with you and as scum i wouldn't?

O I just thought that u were the type that could easily figure these things out. I feel like if u we’re town that that would be enough to at least be worth considering. Oh well honestly I’m just happy ur looking at mena’s iso but I don’t think a town!nsg discredits me right away

i'm not discrediting you. i understand the point you're making, i just don't agree with it. the point

i'm

making is that it, given the low initial probability i'd assign to any random person scumslipping and also not having access to the scum PT and the rest of it, i would need a lot of evidence to believe that it is the case, and you haven't really demonstrated any of that. it's possible that you know something that i don't which would make it more reasonable, but if that's the case i don't see why you would get so worked up about me not agreeing with you when i don't know what you do, and you haven't really given me a lot besides "seems to make sense no?" and "read his ISO"

i think this is something that i'd be incredibly consistent on across any of my town games which is why it kind of seems to me like you're almost just threatening me with your vote, or voting me for not agreeing with you.

i just want to see if ur seeing what im seeing when it comes to that player or if its valid and ur scum trying to discredit it.

[Alisae]

i mean i have to hard reset no?

[Alisae]

If its not mena like, maybe ABR or Hopkirk is where I would look next?
Or Pooky

Mena being town would break apart of my FL, Mena theory but maybe they're not aligned

I honestly just don't know at this moment in time and I haven't really looked into who dun it if mena isn't scum.

Like I dunno honestly

[Alisae]

honestly I'm just throwing names out of a hat clidd I would need to look into it more if thats a bridge that we're crossing cuz i don't know cuz mena flipping town makes me feel like everything i currently know is just wrong?

pedit: Independantly? The only thing that I think is sus is the claim

[Alisae]

I can't think of a reason he as town claims that when he does but it makes sense if he's scum who cracked under the pressure?

[Alisae]

I can't think of a reason he as town claims that when he does but it makes sense if he's scum who cracked under the pressure?

Yeah bottom line dont really see where that claim comes from

i am a little worried he just gets frustrated as town super easily ?? but that play really doesnt make a lot of sense as town versus as scum. Also, it's literally a delayed IC right?

yep its a delayed IC that can't trigger reliably.

[Alisae]

I am better at identifying scum individually and recently my ability to associate slots to find scum partnerships has been of low accuracy.

its ok im supposedly better at this

[Alisae]

lets see if ur individually right then I can cover for your weaknesses.
It honestly could just be a team of {Uncrowned, FL, Mena} that makes sense and lines up with what I'm thinking

[Alisae]

WAT

[Alisae]

Am I supposed to be offended

[Alisae]

honestly hopkirk how can you do this to me
i thought we were friends

[Alisae]

i thought we were friends bro

[Alisae]

if they didn't then i would be confused on how this got past review

[Alisae]

the issue with that is it doesn't sound like its fun to play but 4-8 nightless is the more balanced version of it me thinks

[Alisae]

if there's 3 there should probably be a night kill

[Alisae]

oh is it?

[Alisae]

if that actually is the case I honestly just feel bad for whoever randed scum in this game
they're probably not having a good time cuz they randed scum in a nightless game that wasn't advertised as nightless

[Alisae]

if mena is scum the game probably isn't nightless

[Alisae]

Well if ur right I'm going to flame Ydrasse and Hectic

[Alisae]

no I'm going to complain because if ur right this is a nightless game that wasn't advertised as nightless

[Alisae]

with a serial killer thrown in too

and this was just the newbie game to welcome the poor souls that stumbled on this site

that sounds genuinely awful
I'm going to flame whoever thought that was a good idea

[Alisae]

that's a 7 page normal

[Alisae]

wow things were so different

[Alisae]

go post content so people can scumread you and flip you

[Alisae]

because they have a scummy claim

[Alisae]

I've made it abundantly clear that I want to flip you but people don't want to vote you so I'm compromising

[Alisae]

because ur read on me is garbage and everyone else seems more townie

[Alisae]

honestly have you even read?

[Alisae]

go read then

[Alisae]

so what are you just going to refuse to do more

[Alisae]

I’m not reading a 70 page game while I’m still ill and there’s a decent chance I get eliminated anyway

I’ll talk to anyone who’s around and I’ll prob skim ISOs but I’m not wasting my time

So, tell me why I should even bother to try to solve the game when you’re ignoring my posts and are hellbent on miseliming us? So, no unless you smarten up, I’m not going to listen to you on anything. I can’t obviously stop you from trying to miselim us but I’m not going to continue to put my heart and soul into solving this damn game if my efforts aren’t even being acknowledged.

[Alisae]

As is you using the first time I’ve been here in DAYS to instantly try and shade me instead of help me get into the game

When your SR on me is for a very weak reason

honestly mena no one cares

[Alisae]

well
go solve
just do it 4head

[Alisae]

nope because ur flip will be moreful then anything you post to me tbh

[Alisae]

or if you are town you can just
town it up
you don't need me to help you with that I'm sure you can just do that by yourself. You're a big boy now.

[Alisae]

I think the fact that I'm able to trust my townreads to the extent I do is good enough reason to suspect you ya.

[Alisae]

Maybe I’ll have the chance to town it up if some town who are good at the game turn up who wanna work with me

why do you need people to work with you?
can't you just do it by yourself
what do you actually need the adults in the room to hold your hand?

[Alisae]

honestly i'm glad ur back this game needed more trash talking tbh

[Alisae]

i am suggesting where you should look.
its called reading teh game

[Alisae]

honestly it really cannot be that hard to read up to page 50

[Alisae]

like honestly how can you expect yourself to be able to get an idea of what happened at a specific moment if you don't have context?

[Alisae]

Your reasoning for scum!clidd is meh.

I'm voting you rn because I think you're scum, period.

Then I'm done with this conversation.

I target a player at night, and if I hit a specific player, I become Lovers with them, and I gain the Innocent Child ability.

Uncrowned is not my lover.

[Alisae]

why have you been talking to ali for thirty minutes?

because he can't spell town

[Alisae]

and he can't spell town because he's scum obviously KEKW

[Alisae]

why have you been talking to ali for thirty minutes?

bc ali is the one who was here and I’m trying to make up my mind on if ali is stuck in a derptunnel or is scum who was trying to take advantage of my non-presence here to go for an easy elim

wow
look at mena's amazing scumhunting that happened on the last page!

[Alisae]

But also in a sec we’re gonna talk about how laughable it is that you were trying to argue I scumslipped with my opening posts

why are people suggesting that you scumslipped when thats not what I'm suggesting at all
I suggested you randed a role that doesn't have scum PT access and requires you to coordinate the scumkill with another player {probably Uncrowned} but you failed to do even that.

That's not a scum slip.

[Alisae]

Like what I understand as an expert shitposter tm is that jokes is a good way to communicate that kind of stuff and that's exactly what you did.
Now some people may think well you don't have enough evidence to come to this conclusion, but on the contrary, there was no kill and from what we know so far, scum are hindered in some way, so this theory has some value to it.

[Alisae]

I mean someone suggested scum was hindered so its just a theory

[Alisae]

i didn't know that you have that joke though and I'm not sure how you expect me to know that?

[Alisae]

If thats something that you can prove I'll drop it because it was only suggested that scum was hindered in some way.
That doesn't change the fact that ur earlier read on me was scummy and my townreads are just stronger so ur kinda just PoE

[Alisae]

uh... so as scum (when there's 10 alive) you're saying that menal would think it's a good idea to signal to a partner thinking someone in the thread might respond suggesting who to kill, that person would die, and it wouldn't be considered sus? how exactly does menal's partner respond to that in a way that doesn't draw attention? like can you think of a phrasing? this feels incredibly bad as a strat given last night was at even numbers anyway, where scum sometimes consider no killing anyway if unafaid of prs.

As a joke? Ya he could probably get away with it if he had that role, but I don't think anyone would bat an eye if someone died. I think if one of the players flipped then things look bad.