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I consider literally everything.In post 1350, clidd wrote:I still think you wouldn't consider the stuff- Ahsoka
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I think this is actually pretty good looking back on it. Alisae/Hopkirk have semi been paired up, if only for the townblock presented earlier, and them finding doubt in each other now is actually kind of townie for me there.In post 426, Albert B. Rampage wrote:My pool is [MT, Alisae, Hopkirk]
I think this is a good genuine take for ABR.
In post 441, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Because he does this every game ever and I love PLing him as scum when he's town quickhammering.
Wrong again.In post 438, Alisae wrote:Usually early D1 elims on town have a lot of scum
You're also scum with her.In post 435, Alisae wrote:Thats actually really weird because my meta on MT says that she's town
This entire post I still like. If it was later in the game, I wouldn't, but the earliness of it all, especially considering MT I think has a decent chance of being scum, and then Alisae/ABR is TvT.
ABR has been all over the place, and looking in his ISO I see a lot of wtfery, but I think that's indicative of town ABR.
I don't know necessarily think they're correct, but I think they'll be solidly town as the game goes on.- Ahsoka
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Alisae joke mason claimed with MT in their first post, mentioned a neighborhood real early, then outed the neighborhood.
I can understand why ABR pushed MT/Alisae.
Alisae has dropped a bit for me, but not enough where I'd consider them a fade option today. Paranoia is a part of it because I don't understand why they are town reading me as confidently as they are.- Ahsoka
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Hopkirk could be pocketing me, but I think if they were scum here, them popping in a page ago doesn't make sense from scum because that was a chance scum had to discredit me here.
If I'm town reading scum, I am the type that will hard reconsider everything, so that's dangerous.
ABR felt this firsthand when they were scum, but he still ended up getting one up on me.- Ahsoka
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Hmm, I don't hate this actually. I don't think Uncrowned was trying to pocket me, I really don't.
It was too much if he was.- Ahsoka
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In post 891, clidd wrote:You still scum, Pooky.In post 894, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
yea sure whatever dudeIn post 891, clidd wrote:You still scum, Pooky.
this actually doesn't make sense coming from Clidd.In post 899, clidd wrote:
I'm not sure with uncrowned flipping scum. Need to sort him better.In post 895, Hopkirk wrote:what about uncrowned. i'll vote them instead of you if you vote them Clidd. you scumread them right?
Pooky has a bigger % of flipping scum imo.
Clidd was pushing me as scum, and also pushing Pooky as scum?
Pooky/Ahsoka...? Really.- Ahsoka
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Like the logic does make sense, but I don't know if I like that it was said? It's just pretty obvious if Clidd didn't flip neighbor, which is just not something scum does here.In post 964, Alisae wrote:
oh okayIn post 958, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Well if he flips scum and he lied about his role then you're confscum
that makes sense
I'm a little worried Clidd was a 1-shot Loverizer or something, and Loverized me, which is why he wanted me to cross vote. So I'm half afraid if he dies, I'm going with. But I'll fade there still. Probably me being paranoid.
Why wouldn't Clidd use his 1-shot neighborizer?- Ahsoka
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uhm, excuse me.In post 1024, Kanna wrote:
this is probably the most scummy thing to come out in relation to you, clidd.In post 959, Ahsoka wrote:Hood, not really what he’s said, buthe’s using it as like a private PT, and it does look town spewwy, but I did go through a decent amount of this day thinking he could be scum, and I told him in the PT
I tinfoiled him as scum with ABR early in the day, then I just told him a few hours ago actually that I was suspicious of him.He’s almost posting too much in the neighborhood.
I don’t understand how he was able to do so much in this game, I’m struggling to get reads.if i know you, this is exactly what scum!clidd does here-- fabricate a bunch of analysis and wallposts to get your neighbour to townread you for effort, don't you agree? also something interesting is that scum always post more in their neighbourhoods to pocket > town according to lunacy. i tried looking for that post and couldn't find it, but at least morning was in that game so she can verify that fact
In post 1356, clidd wrote:Even if you don't think I'm town, it doesn't make sense to think I'm scum spamming my thoughts and developing my speculations/solve in a genuine way on the hood.
You may even find it inconsistent how I'm thinking as town, but you would hardly accept my line of reasoning as malicious, especially on the topic of you/Menalque.- Ahsoka
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Nah, don't see this one at all. I can see that entire group being town. this looks like a Clidd partner.In post 1052, Morning Tweet wrote:there should be scum in {Ahsoka/Hopkirk/Menalque} prolly
tbh any and all of my reads there are just gone from not seeing them in so long. Hop I still think had a good D1. Mena I can't tell if I'm just falling into a PoE trap by townreading too many ppl or if he is actually just scum
Ahsoka i haven't really gone anywhere with but theres for me there's been no strong reason he's town beyond possibly the clidd business (?) They both claimed to be sure the other is townIn post 537, Ahsoka wrote:
I have reasons to believe Clidd is town.In post 535, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I feel like we are letting clidd and kanna off the hook too easily though
is this just hood stuff or is there more?In post 649, clidd wrote:Regarding Ahsoka and Morning, I have personal reasons to believe that Ahsoka is town, not much related to this game
Ahsoka has been kinda wavering on clidd!town a bit recently but still doesnt want him elimed so idk- Ahsoka
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they're doing the same thing clidd is doing with Me/Menalque.In post 1056, Morning Tweet wrote:I'll maybe sheep Kanna on Pooky then actuallly
2 of Clidd/Ahsoka/Mena dream solve
Unless there's three scum oh no
Agh I also have an issue with clidd/Ahsoka being scum together. Ahsoka protesting to ABR that he isn't confscum if clidd isn't scum (957/960) felt more like something you'd do to intentionally seem like you're scum with clidd than actually defend yourself from Ahsoka/clidd accusations. maybe thats too wifomy though- Ahsoka
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they're just taking me down with them. I feel it coming. =/In post 1065, clidd wrote:Don't worry, you will have the elimination that you wish for. I'll give that to you after 4 days.- Ahsoka
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I've barely read your posts in the neighborhood.In post 1381, clidd wrote:I'm back.
The context of the game you mentioned, Ahsoka, is outside the current game's hood scenario and reevaluating your reasons for suspecting me, I can't identify town!You convinced that both the line of reasoning that I expanded on the hood and the evolution of my read about you, would create the inference scum!clidd. Even putting myself in your place and disregarding the external influence of meta to assess unknown!Clidd I was unable to classify my motives/progression as coming from a scum mentality, min null-towny, max null-unusual-towny, but nothing too intense, which gives more substance for the impression that you are inflating your negative perception of me.- Ahsoka
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I was looking for a fight, so I could get back in the game, but clidd took the bait.In post 1393, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
what is this even about?In post 1271, Ahsoka wrote:
no you didn't.In post 1219, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
tbh I thought you were the reason there was no death lolIn post 1168, Ahsoka wrote:why was there no kill?
If you did, you wouldn't be scum reading me.
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Nokill on Night 1 isn't something I'd really ever do.In post 1394, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:oh I see now.
when I say "I thought you were the reason there is no death" I don't mean you prevented the death.
I mean you no-killed to fool me because I did that to fool you the last time we played together.- Ahsoka
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I have to end games quick as scum, because town me has no reason to not solve games in the end game. It's why I don't bus very often.
I usually start to become painfully obvious town as the game progresses, so scum have to fight that, and as scum, I have to try to recreate it. That's easy in early game, but I'm an early game scum player/late game town player.- Ahsoka
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I would still rather control the gamestate more with a kill to a threat.In post 1397, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it makes sense on even numbers and can bait out a TPR with a bad read.
I understand the choice, though. I just don't think I would make it ever.- Ahsoka
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Yes, but it's harder to control gamestate, which is like my entire thing as scum.In post 1402, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
what does ending quickly have to do with no-killing?In post 1399, Ahsoka wrote:I have to end games quick as scum, because town me has no reason to not solve games in the end game. It's why I don't bus very often.
I usually start to become painfully obvious town as the game progresses, so scum have to fight that, and as scum, I have to try to recreate it. That's easy in early game, but I'm an early game scum player/late game town player.
it's not like town gets one more day after a no-kill on evens.
I have way too many threats this game to No Kill.- Ahsoka
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I personally think it's dumb to no kill here. We can talk about this post game if you can't trust me with it here.In post 1404, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I mean you say you would never make it but I can't exactly just take your word for "i would never do this as scum"
I felt it was scummy for you to bring it up because it seemed baity in a way. It's almost like a villain who is annoyed that nobody is speculating about his crime.- Ahsoka
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Pooky, I've been pushed as scum who shot my own teammate multiple times, when I was vigilante. You were in that game.
This is the exact same thing.
People don't know my scum game, but they think they do.
Sorry, if people haven't been around my scum game for over 3+ years, they don't know my scum game. They know 1/7th of my scum game.- Ahsoka
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Disagree, but you don't know how to correctly town read me anyways.In post 1409, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
um 1 more person is not harder to control game state. it's actually easier to control game state as scum on evens.In post 1405, Ahsoka wrote:Yes, but it's harder to control gamestate, which is like my entire thing as scum.
I have way too many threats this game to No Kill.
assuming 3 scum - 7 town
you need 6/7 town to vote you off
if you nightkill and its 3 scum - 6 town, you only need 5/6 town to vote you off.
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I have a hydra named Self Meta, dude. I just like talking about myself.In post 1408, clidd wrote:Selfmeta is the same thing you did on names on the list as scum.
"I wouldn't do x as scum, scum!me would do y, and etc etc"
Frankly, I'm getting kinda annoyed with this game.
People think they know scum me based on 2 or 3 games, but my entire scum playstyle is a toned down version of my town style. I self meta more as town than I do as scum.
You keep pushing the things I specifically do as scum because I do them as town.
I haven't tunneled anyone yet, so that's something that town me usually does.- Ahsoka
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And I disagree that a no kill is fine here.In post 1411, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:This isn't even about town-reading you
it's about how scum control game state...
It's a play.
I think it's an inferior play.- Ahsoka
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In post 1331, Ahsoka wrote:It's fine. I have a way to IC myself this game, so if I don't become conf town, the game can fade me Day 4.
literally read 2 posts later, pooky.In post 1333, Ahsoka wrote:
Nevermind, this is a 12 player game. I keep thinking it's a large.In post 1331, Ahsoka wrote:It's fine. I have a way to IC myself this game, so if I don't become conf town, the game can fade me Day 4.- Ahsoka
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No clue. I don't know their role.In post 1416, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
lol does your target know of you?In post 1337, Ahsoka wrote:Then I'm done with this conversation.
I target a player at night, and if I hit a specific player, I become Lovers with them, and I gain the Innocent Child ability.
Uncrowned is not my lover.
I thought about asking around for it, but if it's town, we both will end up dying, and if it's scum, then it's whatever. I'll be night killed eventually anyways.
I'm not scum here, and if you're town, you should know you absolutely don't know how to town read me for reasons.- Ahsoka
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ones I can't bring upIn post 1418, Ahsoka wrote:
No clue. I don't know their role.In post 1416, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
lol does your target know of you?In post 1337, Ahsoka wrote:Then I'm done with this conversation.
I target a player at night, and if I hit a specific player, I become Lovers with them, and I gain the Innocent Child ability.
Uncrowned is not my lover.
I thought about asking around for it, but if it's town, we both will end up dying, and if it's scum, then it's whatever. I'll be night killed eventually anyways.
I'm not scum here, and if you're town, you should know you absolutely don't know how to town read me for reasons.- Ahsoka
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I had gotten to that conclusion before you started doing whatever it is you're doing here.In post 1419, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
I'm town dude.In post 1415, Ahsoka wrote:Did you make a no kill as scum here and are just mad at me for thinking it wasn't a good play?- Ahsoka
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Yeah, I agree.In post 1423, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm reading and reacting to your posts as I read them.
Your role also doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Innocent Child Lover seems like more -town EV than +town ev.- Ahsoka
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If my target is scum, it's not. That's why I think it's pretty solid setup design, especially for the flavor. Ydrasse did well.In post 1423, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm reading and reacting to your posts as I read them.
Your role also doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Innocent Child Lover seems like more -town EV than +town ev.- Ahsoka
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I thought they might be aware of me, and was possibly signaling me.In post 1433, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why did you even target uncrowned in the first place?- Ahsoka
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they've had me at lock town all game. I felt like maybe they were informed that I was town.In post 1436, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:which post indicated signalling to you?- Ahsoka
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In post 53, Uncrowned wrote:sorry was too busy crossing up some 3 year olds during a pickup game
so am i conf town yetIn post 266, Uncrowned wrote:oh shit it's FL what up my gIn post 267, Uncrowned wrote:nice to see you rolled townIn post 272, Uncrowned wrote:kinda
ahsoka Town
alisae... prob town
you/hop pretty neutral atm
I forget if anyone else has posted- Ahsoka
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No, I know now they are specifically not.In post 1438, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:so you think they are an informed townie that knows you are town?- Ahsoka
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I wasn't going to out it or anything.In post 1447, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok.
now I'm pretty sure you are like a good mechanical player.
Why does it make any sense to target a informed townie who knows of your innocence with a loverizer ability? If he's town, you are just decreasing town EV and giving the scum an extra cycle since we went into night on evens.
If he's actually informed of your innocence - then it makes no sense to target him since the benefit of a successful link (you becoming IC) is um, kind of pointless? He's already informed of your innocence, wouldn't it be easier to just ask him to claim ?
I don't want to target someone who's claimed it. That would have put a direct target on our back.
I also don't make the best mechanical choices because I simply don't care about PR's. I focus on day play.- Ahsoka
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I disagree. I said he was informed I was town, that doesn't necessarily make him town. Scum him could have been informed I was an IC.In post 1449, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Like you understand I have a lot of respect for you as a player right? You are mechanically very strong and I think you understand how to think through each role.
The reason I am really doubting you here is because I think you made this up and didn't think it through. If this is your actual role I expect you to be weighing the benefits of actually linking and deciding mechanically it would be quite stupid to actually link because like there is almost nothing to gain and a lot of downside.- Ahsoka
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you saw my posts in Pooky vs FL, right? I planned out stuff that happened on Day 3 pre game. Most of the issues were the team just didn't wanna discredit where it was necessary early.In post 1449, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:weighing the benefits- Ahsoka
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I didn't say Informed townie.In post 1452, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In the scenario where Uncrowned is an Informed Townie that knows of your innocence.
The best thing for the town is for him to claim that and you to not link with him.
It is by far better than you getting linked and becoming an IC.
So that's why I don't understand why you would target him with your ability at night instead of just straight up asking him : "dude are you informed that I am town?"- Ahsoka
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I have an IC ability. I am an IC, not having the ability to do so doesn't change my role.In post 1455, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
but um you are not an IC.In post 1451, Ahsoka wrote:I disagree. I said he was informed I was town, that doesn't necessarily make him town. Scum him could have been informed I was an IC.
and scum are by default informed who the townsfolk are lol.
And that's literally what I said, Pooky. I thought he was informed that I was town. Him being scum is him being informed I was town.
I didn't think he was town for it Day 1.- Ahsoka
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I did think he was slightly lean town, but I actively think scum are in my town reads in Day 1.In post 1456, Ahsoka wrote:I didn't think he was town for it Day 1.
Ilicit Substances, my town block had 2 scum in them. I caught one Day 2, the other Day 3.- Ahsoka
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I think you think I put more effort into the mechanical side of things than I do.
I'm actually the type that sees crazy mechanics in games, then click away.
That's a major reason I don't play many Open games. I'm like almost strictly Large Theme games that are relatively normal Mafia. My games I mod show this. I can do large setups and wacky roles, and balance them.
I'm good with setup specs, and late game I can solve using mechanical stuff, but generally, I only think about that type of stuff when I'm scum. - Ahsoka
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