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Post Post #1857 (isolation #200) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:12 am

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hi gamma am I town now
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Post Post #1859 (isolation #201) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:13 am

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In post 1858, Luca Blight wrote:Another reason I think Nero will flip scum is that his reads seem deliberately bad - he's FoS'ing obvtown players, which seems like a) he's too lazy to fake decent reads and b) he realises he'll still probably be eliminated and doesn't want to give away too much associative info.
wtf u literally gave away the thing I was gonna say and now it'll look like i'm copying u
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Post Post #1861 (isolation #202) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:13 am

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In post 1785, Bypasser Catcher wrote:There's a big reason I am moreso suspicious of Nero atm and it does have to do with their reads list -> i wanna say this and let it simmer over the thread before I move on and give more info, but there is a low chance of me moving off of this unless something significant happens.
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Post Post #1863 (isolation #203) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:14 am

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In post 1860, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1854, Bypasser Catcher wrote:Andres, whats your read on Nero? And why?
Look all I know is that this 1v1 contains Scum. I can feel it. I am way too uncertain about Norwegian and frankly that fight just isn’t worth it right now you would see way too much emotional content. But Nero is not going down without a fight and isn’t throwing out crazy reads either or wallowing in self-pity before getting executed. So I am leaning Town there and voting the player that appeared most certain.
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Post Post #1866 (isolation #204) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:20 am

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Luca, do you think Andres is trying to gaslight the situation into making u out to be scummy for pushing on nero, who is probably flipping scum?
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Post Post #1867 (isolation #205) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:21 am

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mm I have to think about it. but the past few pages were pretty..bad for andres.
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Post Post #1875 (isolation #206) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:25 am

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In post 1872, Nero Cain wrote:also none of my scum reads have flipped so saying that I have "bad reads" isn't something u could possibly know unless u r scum.
thats quite dishonest lmfao
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #207) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:26 am

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ur deliberately choosing the interpretation that is convenient for you. You know full well that that wasn't what was meant.
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Post Post #1879 (isolation #208) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:27 am

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In post 1876, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1866, Bypasser Catcher wrote:Luca, do you think Andres is trying to gaslight the situation into making u out to be scummy for pushing on nero, who is probably flipping scum?
I'm still sure of Andres being Town.
I'm wavering because it feels like an attempt to pull the pressure off.
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #209) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:37 am

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In post 1885, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1884, Gamma Emerald wrote:Would honestly been a better look if you kept SRing me
not trying to look good trying to find scum.
these words don't match your actions
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Post Post #2006 (isolation #210) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:38 am

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In post 1998, Nero Cain wrote:there aren't 3 different meta reads, there's 4 players that are using the same meta read that are all wrong.
Where did I use meta?
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Post Post #2014 (isolation #211) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:58 am

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In post 2012, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't know why Titus popped in just now to have a presence but i'm paranaoid that it could be strategic.
lol i bookmarked the page cause i had the same vibe.
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Post Post #2018 (isolation #212) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:11 am

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In post 2017, Nero Cain wrote:bypass is doing a whole ton of agreeing this game...
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Post Post #2022 (isolation #213) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:27 am

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Im too gay to read that last post
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Post Post #2025 (isolation #214) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:45 am

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I'm doing the opposite of discrediting ppl fwiw. I'm giving ppl, btw that I townread and believe should be townblocked, the confirmation that their thought process is shared by me as well.
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Post Post #2028 (isolation #215) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:51 am

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and what is my motive in helping town find eachother and become a unit? since supposedly I'm buddying?
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Post Post #2029 (isolation #216) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:51 am

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In post 2027, Not_Mafia wrote:This gameday is now boring
I agree. They should add dayvigs to normals.
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Post Post #2032 (isolation #217) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:56 am

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In post 2030, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2023, chkflip wrote:And while agreeing isn't scummy and I pretty clearly exaggerated, to what end do you think Bypass has deepwolfed
bypass doesn't need to deepwolf to parrot the ever loving fuck out of people. I mean yes, town can agree but its not outside the realms of possibility that bypass is just scum here thats sheeping everyone else reads and thoughts b/c they don't have any.
have you tried asking questions to confirm that? or are u just gonna pretend like u cant narrow that possibility down.

and I have stated reads with my own independent thought process.
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Post Post #2035 (isolation #218) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:00 am

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Not ones like the one you just asked.
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Post Post #2049 (isolation #219) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 2039, Nero Cain wrote:I mean im not saying its the case to end all cases but scum being an opinionless void and buddying up to players is a thing. I don't care about your opinion b/c you also thought my case on scum Taylor was bad in our last game so WTF do u know?
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Post Post #2050 (isolation #220) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:22 am

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I'm literally not even going to prove it wrong for u cause everyone in thread knows ur talking out ur ass with that
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Post Post #2051 (isolation #221) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:23 am

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also did ppl literally miss mini getting replaced? lol
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Post Post #2053 (isolation #222) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:30 am

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In post 2052, Titus wrote:
In post 2013, Momrangal wrote:Norwee, Gamma and I all presented meta arguments and Norwee has been the most present and widely based on Nero's activity or lack of thereoff and BOP while Gamma and I have both provided insight on the probable mindset of scum!nero.

The only one Luca has acknowledged however was Norwees
Why engage with all three as scum when you can just agree with the most vocal?
hey peanut gallery, u gonna actually do anything except incite stuff? cause feels a lot like u just tryna push an agenda to discredit a forming townblock.
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Post Post #2057 (isolation #223) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:38 am

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In post 2055, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:
In post 2053, Bypasser Catcher wrote:
hey peanut gallery, u gonna actually do anything except incite stuff? cause feels a lot like u just tryna push an agenda to discredit a forming townblock.
Isn't it a bit early for that? I defer to your greater experience, Koba but canyou be sure your snuggling up to town?
Andres I'm less sure on now but the rest I am still solid on.
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Post Post #2059 (isolation #224) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:44 am

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ok lol

whats probably happening is that you flip scum and I get nightkilled and flip as mason
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Post Post #2061 (isolation #225) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:45 am

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nah u ain't helping lmfao.

ur just taking pot shots.
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Post Post #2064 (isolation #226) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:49 am

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In post 2062, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2059, Bypasser Catcher wrote:ok lol

whats probably happening is that you flip scum and I get nightkilled and flip as mason
what was the point of claiming mason?
cause im big brain wifomer
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Post Post #2066 (isolation #227) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:53 am

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In post 2065, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I keep reading N_M posts as BC posts before realizing it's not.
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Post Post #2085 (isolation #228) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:11 pm

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In post 2077, Mizzytastic wrote:
Official Votecount 1.19Nero Cain (8):
NorwegianboyEE
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Gamma Emerald
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chkflip
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quiet
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Bypasser Catcher
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Luca Blight
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Momrangal
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Norfolk Boy1
[E-3]

Hayker (5):
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BBMolla
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Titus
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Andresvmb
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Nero Cain

Not_Mafia (3):
MiniMegabyte
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Binatog13
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DrippingGoofball

Titus (1):
PlusJOYED

MiniMegabyte (1):
Vaxkiller

NorwegianboyEE (1):
Not_Mafia


Not Voting (1):
Hayker


With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #229) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:53 pm

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pr claim incoming
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Post Post #2098 (isolation #230) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:53 pm

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In post 2097, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2093, Nero Cain wrote:pls hammer me, im done
I'm not
UNVOTE:
with a likelihood of moving onto Hayker soon
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Post Post #2099 (isolation #231) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:54 pm

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actually no this is typical gamma lol
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Post Post #2104 (isolation #232) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:57 pm

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In post 2096, Bypasser Catcher wrote:pr claim incoming
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Post Post #2106 (isolation #233) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:58 pm

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dude literally panic claimed at E-3 with no intent declared lmao
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Post Post #2109 (isolation #234) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:01 pm

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the tone in the post nero claimed is so fake especially the transition to it like they were looking for where they need to post it.
the claim makes me even more sure they are scum here.


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Post Post #2111 (isolation #235) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:03 pm

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I'll also note that nero even included "town" before tracker.

another piece of evidence that points to the claim being bunk and scum.

i wouldnt doubt them flipping tracker but surely not a town one.
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Post Post #2112 (isolation #236) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:03 pm

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In post 2110, Nero Cain wrote:
Bypasser Catcher wrote:dude literally panic claimed at E-3 with no intent declared lmao
i thought I was closer. oh well i'l lurk until you guys hammer me.
no u didnt.
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Post Post #2113 (isolation #237) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:03 pm

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In post 2090, Binatog13 wrote:Nvm Im blind
VOTE: Nero Cain E-2
In post 2097, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2093, Nero Cain wrote:pls hammer me, im done
I'm not
UNVOTE:
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ur trying to distance from NM arent u
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Post Post #2116 (isolation #238) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:09 pm

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In post 2114, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1979, Momrangal wrote:I disagree on gamma, we got scum pings on the same post for two different reasons
I don't feel like that makes the SR more valid per se. Everyone has their own perspective, and certain things may come off as sketchy generally but have different aspects that people latch on to.
In post 1980, Nero Cain wrote:fine, i'll sheep u on bypass

VOTE: Hayker
In post 1981, Nero Cain wrote:Whats your current solve Titus? NM. Luca, Hayker, Quiet?
In post 1983, Nero Cain wrote:these are ppl that I don't townread-the players on my wagon.
These posts by Nero kinda seem natural. It reminds me of how he formed his reads in LN 230. I still am concerned about his noticing the NM claim without a clear reason for paying attention to it, but I think the things Titus and Nero are saying rn resonate with me enough for me to look past that rn.
how is that not a major red flag
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Post Post #2117 (isolation #239) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:09 pm

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In post 2115, Nero Cain wrote:bypasser, im getting lynched no need to overcompensate unless u r like scum.
"i did a bunch of stuff that will likely get ppl to unvote but im gonna pretend like the wagon is going to go through"
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Post Post #2122 (isolation #240) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:11 pm

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u got any crumbs btw nero?
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Post Post #2125 (isolation #241) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:13 pm

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he's lolcatting
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Post Post #2127 (isolation #242) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:14 pm

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In post 2125, Bypasser Catcher wrote:he's lolcatting
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Post Post #2128 (isolation #243) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:14 pm

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(obvvious joke but powerlim this obv fake)
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Post Post #2131 (isolation #244) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:15 pm

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when did u see the claim?
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Post Post #2133 (isolation #245) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:15 pm

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In post 2130, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2125, Bypasser Catcher wrote:he's lolcatting
this guy is either scummy as fuck or so biased its sad and funny all at the same time
ok see u in gy thread when u whine about how i caught u for "wrong reasons" or whatever salty scum does
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Post Post #2138 (isolation #246) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:18 pm

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gamma

step back


realize ur tryign to way too big brain what is right in front of you.

nero has way too many logical inconsistencies with their actions vs their words at this point to say they are town.
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Post Post #2139 (isolation #247) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:19 pm

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In post 2136, quiet wrote:huh I guess the nero wagon was viable after all.

I may have had very light reasons to vote Nero when I jumped on the wagon from Hayker, but I am exceptionally happy to be on this wagon right now. My vote stays. Don't buy the claim whatsoever. The only progression I saw was anger at everyone voting them -> depression self vote -> no point in bargaining -> acceptance of their fate. But also I know for a fact I don't like playing with angry players, and that might be coloring my read. I didn't have the time I wanted to read over old games, but I'm satisfied enough with what has been said.

Plus I'm with Norfolk, and a few others. This sure as hell seems to provide a lot more info than Hayker's elim.

Also the gamestate seemed to change pretty seriously since I last posted. Today was some early susses, then an almost casual hammer on NM, a slow moving, stalled out wagon on Hayker, then whatever the hell the last 20something pages have been of fighting over Nero's slot. Three very different wagons.

Does anyone have a take on why the game slowed down when Hayker was up? Is it just because it wasn't a very exciting elim?
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Post Post #2140 (isolation #248) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:19 pm

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In post 2135, Nero Cain wrote:its not that I wasn't interested in it its just that I hadn't read the 30 pages I missed over the weekend and then u clowns started tunneling me and I was like "fuk this noise"
when did u see the NM claim?
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Post Post #2145 (isolation #249) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:22 pm

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when u call out the lolcatting correctly lmfaooo
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Post Post #2146 (isolation #250) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:23 pm

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part of me wants to force this through now so ppl dont get cold feet later and let scum walk free, another part of me wants to let ppl put their last words in before the flip.
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Post Post #2156 (isolation #251) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:28 pm

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In post 2154, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2138, Bypasser Catcher wrote:gamma

step back


realize ur tryign to way too big brain what is right in front of you.

nero has way too many logical inconsistencies with their actions vs their words at this point to say they are town.
I think enough of them feel like they make sense within my understanding of him to look past them
k his claim is still major scummy
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #252) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:29 pm

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In post 2155, Andresvmb wrote:What are we at?
E-1

(its E-2 but not_mafia exists)
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Post Post #2159 (isolation #253) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:29 pm

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In post 2153, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2150, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2147, quiet wrote:
In post 2132, Andresvmb wrote:I mean Nero this is a mistake yeah? You should have outted and condemned Not_Mafia to an execution.
Is it worth outing a PR to catch scum? Is there a guarantee that there is only one Tracker PR? Cause if we can use this to sort NM sooner than waiting for that weak every other night BS, I'm all for it.
An exact Claim by two players is quite uncommon. So it depends on the situation. It might not be necessary if the bad PR claim simply goes through. But if you need to make it happen, 1 Scum is far more valuable than 1 Town, even a PR in my opinion (and particularly something as hard to get right as a Tracker).
It doesn’t apply here obviously but yes in theory, I would have absolutely outted if the pressure began to decline on a player that put out my exact same Role.
if not outted, doubled down on the read and tried to force it back onto NM, NOT onto Luca.
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Post Post #2160 (isolation #254) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:30 pm

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Or, even myself.
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #255) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:31 pm

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no.

when i say scummy

i mean .

alignm,ent indicative scummy.

not that bullshit ass yee yee shit ppl say when someone says something wrong.
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Post Post #2169 (isolation #256) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:34 pm

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In post 2165, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2163, Bypasser Catcher wrote:no.

when i say scummy

i mean .

alignm,ent indicative scummy.

not that bullshit ass yee yee shit ppl say when someone says something wrong.
okay. What's the scum motive for the claim when it sticks out like a sore thumb, and he retracted it pretty quickly after?
because suckers like you buy it and think "oh this is how town would react here it cant be scum"

recognize lolcatting when it happens pls
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Post Post #2171 (isolation #257) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:35 pm

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sorry bad word choice.

but the point is like its bait to get ppl who have that mindset of "wow this is so outrageous it cant be scum"
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Post Post #2174 (isolation #258) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:36 pm

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In post 2170, Rannygazoo wrote:Titus, does this feel like that other game to you, where all the town PRs just gave up and voted themselves?
you've seen people claim PRs early before.
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Post Post #2176 (isolation #259) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:37 pm

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andres can u declare intent pls so at least i know ur committed to this
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Post Post #2177 (isolation #260) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:37 pm

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nice page top
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Post Post #2180 (isolation #261) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:38 pm

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In post 2179, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 2174, Bypasser Catcher wrote:
In post 2170, Rannygazoo wrote:Titus, does this feel like that other game to you, where all the town PRs just gave up and voted themselves?
you've seen people claim PRs early before.
Lel

In my last game with Titus, a town PR put themselves on E-1 and got hammered on day 1 and day 2.

thats just gamethrowing lol
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Post Post #2181 (isolation #262) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:38 pm

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claimed PRs dont self.
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Post Post #2184 (isolation #263) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:39 pm

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In post 2182, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2168, quiet wrote:What Bypasser said makes sense to me. I could understand not claiming then, operating under the assumption that NM would get elimmed pretty inevitably in a day or two if they had faked the claim (and i'm like, 85% sure that is the world we are living in), but putting pressure back on NM or someone else makes more sense that what actually went down.
Here’s my issue with your logic here. You are quite certain that Not_Mafia is Scum and making a false Role claim correct? So why are you happy about your Nero vote again? Nero is so sure Not_Mafia is Scum, they fakeclaimed Not_Mafia’s role in frustration. So clearly they’re not aligned as Scum.
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Post Post #2185 (isolation #264) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:40 pm

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or maybe this is just how NM plays as PR.
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Post Post #2190 (isolation #265) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:42 pm

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In post 2141, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2132, Andresvmb wrote:I mean Nero this is a mistake yeah? You should have outted and condemned Not_Mafia to an execution.
yeah I was fakeclaiming. im still town though. pls vote me.
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Post Post #2192 (isolation #266) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:43 pm

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In post 2191, Andresvmb wrote:I am chicken. I can’t vote Nero.

Somebody else will do it I’m sure.
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Post Post #2195 (isolation #267) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:43 pm

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wheres the andres who voted outside of a 1v1 in a lylo situation?
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Post Post #2205 (isolation #268) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:47 pm

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no he's being survivalistic mostly.

this is a last ditch effort to get votes off via extreme AtE.
the intent isnt to die at all. its to get the votes off first and foremost.
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Post Post #2213 (isolation #269) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:50 pm

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In post 2208, Nero Cain wrote:jesus christ, bypass is so bad
this isnt the first time i have had scum self vote for me so <3 i recognize it when i see it
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Post Post #2214 (isolation #270) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:51 pm

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the tactic is to get ppl like gamma to be like "zomg scum would NEVER be this suicidal aha this is impossible to be scum here because it has to just be a frustrated townie!"
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Post Post #2220 (isolation #271) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:54 pm

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In post 2217, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2136, quiet wrote:huh I guess the nero wagon was viable after all.

I may have had very light reasons to vote Nero when I jumped on the wagon from Hayker, but I am exceptionally happy to be on this wagon right now. My vote stays. Don't buy the claim whatsoever. The only progression I saw was anger at everyone voting them -> depression self vote -> no point in bargaining -> acceptance of their fate. But also I know for a fact I don't like playing with angry players, and that might be coloring my read. I didn't have the time I wanted to read over old games, but I'm satisfied enough with what has been said.

Plus I'm with Norfolk, and a few others. This sure as hell seems to provide a lot more info than Hayker's elim.

Also the gamestate seemed to change pretty seriously since I last posted. Today was some early susses, then an almost casual hammer on NM, a slow moving, stalled out wagon on Hayker, then whatever the hell the last 20something pages have been of fighting over Nero's slot. Three very different wagons.

Does anyone have a take on why the game slowed down when Hayker was up? Is it just because it wasn't a very exciting elim?
thinking about this the Nero wagon in this game seems similar to the Pretentious wagon in LN 230
I'm officially not at all okay with limming Nero Cain today, everyone out of the wagon
VOTE: Hayker
I'd like to go with this, barring another sudden change or someone actually making the PJ wagon sensible to me
i am going to have many choice words with you when we are both in dead thread
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Post Post #2223 (isolation #272) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:55 pm

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In post 2219, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2213, Bypasser Catcher wrote:
In post 2208, Nero Cain wrote:jesus christ, bypass is so bad
this isnt the first time i have had scum self vote for me so <3 i recognize it when i see it
In post 2214, Bypasser Catcher wrote:the tactic is to get ppl like gamma to be like "zomg scum would NEVER be this suicidal aha this is impossible to be scum here because it has to just be a frustrated townie!"
In post 2215, Nero Cain wrote:this is y i want to flip already so I don't have to play with a shitlord like u
^This isn't how town responds to someone they scumread.
yeah thats how scum responds to when I am hardtunneling them and they're big mad they think they are caught for bad reasons. reminds me of tn back in "Meet me in the backrooms" who was so confident in self hammering because i said i hard TR their partner.

(they actually self hammered so the dynamic is different)
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Post Post #2228 (isolation #273) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:58 pm

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In post 2216, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2214, Bypasser Catcher wrote:the tactic is to get ppl like gamma to be like "zomg scum would NEVER be this suicidal aha this is impossible to be scum here because it has to just be a frustrated townie!"
I really, really hope you’re right and are Town. I sincerely do. Because then I’ll be the one under pressure and I can deal with that. But I KNOW how annoying you are to eliminate as Scum.
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #274) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:02 pm

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k well i think ur switch of the read when more evidence that nero is scum lolcatting is present is like peak overthinking the game
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Post Post #2234 (isolation #275) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:02 pm

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occams razor.

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Post Post #2241 (isolation #276) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:06 pm

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god. u gave them an inch and look at how their tune has changed.
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Post Post #2242 (isolation #277) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:08 pm

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all you need to pin Nero as scum is their reaction to being close to hammer. everything around the tracker claim to now is like peak caught scum behavior.
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Post Post #2251 (isolation #278) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:14 pm

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keep a lookout for players tones to change in the case of anyone unvoting the nero wagon btw
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #279) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:14 pm

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fucking hero
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Post Post #2257 (isolation #280) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:15 pm

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gg i was scum
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Post Post #2268 (isolation #281) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:02 pm

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wtf
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Post Post #2270 (isolation #282) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:03 pm

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also fuck you all no regrets on that wagon. kid was liability as fuck.
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Post Post #2272 (isolation #283) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:06 pm

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please dont take things i say literally.
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Post Post #2273 (isolation #284) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:07 pm

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im just Confusion at this kill choice.

like it flipped PR so it was a good kill

but like why.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #285) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:07 pm

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i was very much expecting me to see like a kill on the hayker wagon and feel confident in voting there today.

now i dont know where to go from here.
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Post Post #2276 (isolation #286) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:10 pm

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i guess this is the part where I actually catch up on the game before I subbed in huh
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Post Post #2280 (isolation #287) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:16 pm

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In post 2278, Andresvmb wrote:I am only interested in executing in {quiet, Luca Blight, Bypasser} today.

@Gamma thoughts?
what happened to hayker buddy?
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Post Post #2284 (isolation #288) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:18 pm

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In post 2282, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2280, Bypasser Catcher wrote:
In post 2278, Andresvmb wrote:I am only interested in executing in {quiet, Luca Blight, Bypasser} today.

@Gamma thoughts?
what happened to hayker buddy?
I’m not answering bad faith questions.
its not a bad faith question -> im trying to break down ur logic of why im in your poe.
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Post Post #2285 (isolation #289) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:18 pm

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andres why did u switch off to hayker then?
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Post Post #2288 (isolation #290) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:20 pm

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how would town!me see it.

i deadass drove 3 town miselims in our normal game when we were both town why are u so surprised.
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Post Post #2289 (isolation #291) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:20 pm

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im better in micros.
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Post Post #2291 (isolation #292) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:22 pm

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logically speaking, based on how I pushed the day, you should be reading me as partnered to hayker if I'm scum here.
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Post Post #2292 (isolation #293) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:22 pm

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so now for you to turn it around like that onto me and push hayker out of a poe, thats quite suspicious.
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Post Post #2294 (isolation #294) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:23 pm

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In post 2293, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2274, Bypasser Catcher wrote:i was very much expecting me to see like a kill on the hayker wagon and feel confident in voting there today.

now i dont know where to go from here.
You’re going to have to adopt stronger stances than this if you hope to survive long-term.
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Post Post #2296 (isolation #295) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:24 pm

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andres, do you see a world where town!hayker + scum!me exists?
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Post Post #2298 (isolation #296) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:25 pm

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because if so i really am curious how you describe why i went after nero rather than TMIing nero as town and staying on hayker and chose to burn my towncred by just hard pushing the nero lim.
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Post Post #2299 (isolation #297) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:25 pm

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In post 2297, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2288, Bypasser Catcher wrote:how would town!me see it.

i deadass drove 3 town miselims in our normal game when we were both town why are u so surprised.
In post 2289, Bypasser Catcher wrote:im better in micros.
Your reads were good in Betrayal
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scum weren't that good.
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Post Post #2306 (isolation #298) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:30 pm

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In post 2300, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2296, Bypasser Catcher wrote:andres, do you see a world where town!hayker + scum!me exists?
I don’t like this question
why?

andres isn't an IC bud.

im retracting their logic to see how they reached the conclusion that i have to be part of their limpool today over anyone else.
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Post Post #2307 (isolation #299) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:31 pm

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In post 2302, Andresvmb wrote:@Bypasser if your reads are bad then I’m not interested in discussing with you what to do. That push yesterday was bad and Scum piled on. I am almost certain {Luca, quiet} need to get executed. You? Maybe slightly less so. You can tunnel and be obnoxious when you think you’re right and you’re not. And perhaps you would try to pocket me more. But still, you’re not going to go into any Town core of mine any time soon.
k i dont want u in any towncore that exists either.
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Post Post #2311 (isolation #300) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:37 pm

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In post 2309, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2306, Bypasser Catcher wrote:
In post 2300, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2296, Bypasser Catcher wrote:andres, do you see a world where town!hayker + scum!me exists?
I don’t like this question
why?

andres isn't an IC bud.

im retracting their logic to see how they reached the conclusion that i have to be part of their limpool today over anyone else.
Why do you say that?

because i was fucking sus of them d1 !!!!!!!!!!!
it feels just way too fucking convenient ok.

and them stating they dont wanna lim hayker is setting off huge fucking sirens in my head.
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Post Post #2312 (isolation #301) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:38 pm

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if nero didnt fakeclaim there was a chance i switched off but how do u fucking read that as towny when ur uninformed please tell me. like holy shit that was the scummiest claim ive ever seen.
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Post Post #2313 (isolation #302) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:39 pm

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nero deadass gamethrew idgaf u dont fucking fakeclaim to save urself as a vt or maintain a self vote like that. thats just someone trying to set up their meta for scum games and its annoiying as fuck
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Post Post #2318 (isolation #303) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:41 pm

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In post 2314, Andresvmb wrote:Like if I had to summarize it - a few arguments were made about Nero and that wagon escalated quickly. Onto what you would agree is a good player, correct? A few players seized on Norwegian’s and Momrangal’s meta logic, which was quite obviously incorrect (and Nero blasted it in those terms), and then the reasoning provided by quiet above.

There’s Scum in there. Bypasser was also cheering the wagon way too aggressively, pouncing on every little thing and making it seem like the Scummiest thing that anybody had ever done.

Obviously there’s also Scum off the wagon. I think Ranny is a good candidate for that.
k i dont know who nero is but the way they came off sounds like a whiny child who definitely doesnt feel like they are good at this game.
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Post Post #2322 (isolation #304) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:43 pm

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i played with mathblade but all they did was incorrectly read me in 2 games and mishammer lylo so thats how ive seen them.

also saw them full solve a game though from spec chat.
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Post Post #2323 (isolation #305) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:43 pm

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In post 2321, Binatog13 wrote:I don't understand the Town Role Watcher. Is it like the same as the ordinary watcher?
oh i know about this role, quite embarassing actually as ive been caught by this very role as scum!

its like watcher, but instead of telling you the name of the palyer who visited, you get the name of the ROLE that visited.
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Post Post #2324 (isolation #306) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:44 pm

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In post 2315, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Fuck quoting on mobile.
I’m trying to get a tiny part of a post but it only get’s the entire thing.
Anyway, my reaction to Mini’s death is that there is no way scum killed them for any other reason than as a fear kill. Which immediately makes me paranoid of Titus.
I’m sorry if you’re town Titus but this is the first thought in my mind.
oh u reminded me that there was something about titus i wanted to bring up ?

let me find it.
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Post Post #2327 (isolation #307) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:45 pm

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In post 1967, Titus wrote:
In post 1541, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Nero you've done nothing but call NM trolling scum. Do you even have a comment about the Hayker wagon?
In post 1542, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1540, Nero Cain wrote:nm is just trolling scum and the claim isn't great either.
You got any other takes Master Cain? You’re starting to sound like a broken record.
Both town probably. That type of thought that close is not likely sheeping.
ok so i bookmarked this post here,

starting here is a string of weird posts from titus.

i kinda forget why i just had bookmarked this fully but it was something i feel i should like bring back up.
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Post Post #2329 (isolation #308) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:48 pm

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GUILLOTINA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Post Post #2331 (isolation #309) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:49 pm

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fucking played a game that guillotina modded on MU, it ended up being a bastard game because of host error but town still fucked shit up.
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Post Post #2332 (isolation #310) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:50 pm

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well its good if u catch someone whos fakeclaiming a role LOOOL
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Post Post #2357 (isolation #311) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:04 pm

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In post 2350, Andresvmb wrote:We need to kill this idea that Scum look to preserve their Town cred at all costs. It’s just not true. Scum need to push mis-executions. It’s how they stay in the game. It’s much easier to backtrack and blame bad reads than it is to wait on the Town to form a core and figure the game out and try and outlast that.
and yet scum killed outside the supposed "core" that was being built d1.
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Post Post #2360 (isolation #312) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:05 pm

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oh im seeing whats going on

VOTE: titus
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Post Post #2361 (isolation #313) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:05 pm

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In post 2358, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2357, Bypasser Catcher wrote:
In post 2350, Andresvmb wrote:We need to kill this idea that Scum look to preserve their Town cred at all costs. It’s just not true. Scum need to push mis-executions. It’s how they stay in the game. It’s much easier to backtrack and blame bad reads than it is to wait on the Town to form a core and figure the game out and try and outlast that.
and yet scum killed outside the supposed "core" that was being built d1.
Your point being what exactly?
im literally hardpushing the kill onto u ifi m scum???????????

unless we're scum together???

like cmon
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Post Post #2374 (isolation #314) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:11 pm

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im more trustworthy of people who scumread nero after the stupid fakeclaim bullshit they pulled. cuz town perspective 100% sees that shit as scumfuck shit.

idgaf how u twist it u dont get to discredit anyone pushing the nero lim just for pushing nero cause there were valid reasons for it. to toss someone's towniness away just cause u didnt like the wagon they pushed is absurd.

the early votes are more likely to be scum. luca im reconsidering bc of their meta shit they pushed but otherwise idgi
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Post Post #2376 (isolation #315) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:12 pm

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i refuse to believe that nero is some good player after the shit they pulled lmfao

good players dont gamethrow
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Post Post #2381 (isolation #316) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:13 pm

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i was like 99% sure nero was flipping scum there and was in lolcat mode.

shame i didnt consider the angle that someone was just tossing the game against their wincon.
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Post Post #2391 (isolation #317) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:17 pm

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In post 2387, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2381, Bypasser Catcher wrote:i was like 99% sure nero was flipping scum there and was in lolcat mode.

shame i didnt consider the angle that someone was just tossing the game against their wincon.
You can try and make the argument that the odds of getting that right were 1%, but it’s just false. Because Gamma, Ranny and I are not all Scum together. Yet multiple players came out against the wagon there.
i said from my point of view.

not sure i said anyone else.

how many ppl came out against the wagon after i presented my case wrt their tracker claim?
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Post Post #2392 (isolation #318) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:17 pm

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IT WASNT FUCKING BAD LOGIC
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Post Post #2395 (isolation #319) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:17 pm

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just ufcking acknowledge nero was playing against their wincon lmfao
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Post Post #2401 (isolation #320) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:21 pm

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In post 2396, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2392, Bypasser Catcher wrote:IT WASNT FUCKING BAD LOGIC
Are you defending the meta logic now? Why? It was bad. That’s the point.
no.

the logic that their tracker claim was trash as sfuck,.
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Post Post #2403 (isolation #321) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:22 pm

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1 wrong read in a PoE doesnt mean that the poe is bad.
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Post Post #2413 (isolation #322) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:30 pm

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maybe like consider my poe where i dont get why yall calling neros reads sheepable when they felt just omgusy and considering at least fmpov i would look at my name as called out and just laugh.

but whatever i digress. norfolk's first post needs to be a roleclaim.

please if u discuss stuff make sure that is present so that norfolk cant stall for time.
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Post Post #2414 (isolation #323) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:31 pm

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In post 2412, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2376, Bypasser Catcher wrote:i refuse to believe that nero is some good player after the shit they pulled lmfao

good players dont gamethrow
Good players can have bad games. I don’t like how hard you’re slamming Nero posthumously rn.
i dont ever fakeclaim a role and then self and AtE furiously just to avoid an elimination as a VT. thats just straight up trashcan play.

i dont feel bad about trashing that play.
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Post Post #2419 (isolation #324) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:41 pm

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In post 2417, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2400, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Bypasser Catcher is still obvtown and i’m never eliminating there. Even if they were on the Nero wagon.
I disagree that BC is obvtown
cuz ur method of reading sux at reading me
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Post Post #2420 (isolation #325) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:43 pm

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In post 2415, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2395, Bypasser Catcher wrote:just ufcking acknowledge nero was playing against their wincon lmfao
I can admit that, but that didn’t make voting him out right. He didn’t seem like he couldn’t be reined in. My opinion on policying people who act like Nero was is I only really do it if I don’t think it can be reconciled. Nero seemed like he was willing to work with me, he was playing against wincon but I feel like I had the ability to get him to stop that.
i have 0 regrets. if i ever saw it again, id repeat my actions. there is 0 shame in policying shit like that. it wasnt even a policy they just straight up basically claimed scum and we limmed them. i get u wanna be right on these things but like u gotta be consistent and not let that kinda play slide.
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Post Post #2422 (isolation #326) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:44 pm

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ok sorry im flooding the game with this dumb discussion.

im gonna just step back and let shit happen im just annoyed in general at this game cuz i was hoping at least some1 on hayker wagon would die so id feel confirmed that that was the right path.
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Post Post #2433 (isolation #327) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:53 pm

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ranny and norwee ur both town :///
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #328) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:55 pm

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norwee, dont get worked up abt ranny fosing u - theyre wroking from an uninformed perspective and are paranoid of u

ranny - norwee foses u bc ur playstyle naturally atttracts foses the way norwee reads. dont take it personally just like try to engage them honestly
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