TM 2021 Large Normal 2: Wikipedia Integer Facts (Over)

[Ythan]

I'll add to my A50 TR that I thought him not realizing the SK thing is potentially +town and at worst NAI (it definitely felt like a real misunderstanding), and that his aggressive impatience at me only addressing myself and not the game is real annoyance at what he views as unproductive discourse, which to me also feels +town

I've asked him repeatedly to tell me whether realizing he was wrong has influenced any of his reads about any single thing but he keeps ignoring it so he can eat rope until he becomes useful.

[Ythan]

Okay analyzing the Titus wagon means opening Mastina's iso so I'm gonna take a break for a minute first.

[Ythan]

Have pointedly asked him to address it twice and still awaiting feedback. I don't think moving my vote at this moment is going to make that feedback MORE forthcoming.

[Ythan]

Oka selling me more on my own vote with every post.

[Ythan]

Oh good.

[Ythan]

hey a50 how were you so sure there were only 4 groupscum but not in the nonexistence of an sk

Ooh show me this surety of four pls.

[Ythan]

I list all possible formations of a 4-members scum team

right here

Yaaaaas

[Ythan]

My vote has become ironclad for the foreseeable future but I'll probably still check out that Titus wagon because why not.

IV you were exactly right.

[Ythan]

Hi from the past future a50 whenever you read this.

[Ythan]

if anyone wants to start a new conversation? why is cephrir town

Ceph seems fine, anything in particular spark that?

[Ythan]

Last (but not least) I don't really care if I'm SR'd by Oka (or even Hop, who claimed that he had a Town Lean on me towards the end of D1m but is back to questioning others' TRs on me today) *Shrug*

That's a pretty nuanced and detailed take on Hop's read you don't care about.

[Ythan]

Sweeet wb.

[Ythan]

That's 3643 he's up to and nothing. Rope.

[Ythan]

I'll add to my A50 TR that I thought him not realizing the SK thing is potentially +town and at worst NAI (it definitely felt like a real misunderstanding), and that his aggressive impatience at me only addressing myself and not the game is real annoyance at what he views as unproductive discourse, which to me also feels +town

I've asked him repeatedly to tell me whether realizing he was wrong has influenced any of his reads about any single thing but he keeps ignoring it so he can eat rope until he becomes useful.

[Ythan]

I'll add to my A50 TR that I thought him not realizing the SK thing is potentially +town and at worst NAI (it definitely felt like a real misunderstanding), and that his aggressive impatience at me only addressing myself and not the game is real annoyance at what he views as unproductive discourse, which to me also feels +town

I've asked him repeatedly to tell me whether realizing he was wrong has influenced any of his reads about any single thing but he keeps ignoring it so he can eat rope until he becomes useful.

[Ythan]

I list all possible formations of a 4-members scum team

right here

Yaaaaas

[Ythan]

Please keep posting.

[Ythan]

It's a 149 page thread. Me asking for what he was referring to and your inability to add 14 and 4 are hardly comparable you dolt.

[Ythan]

A reminder to all: attack the argument, not the person.

These are some stupendously dumb arguments.

[Ythan]

How has anyone in this thread's eyes not rolled out of their heads from this transparently shit shit.

[Ythan]

Not that it's my preferred elim overall, but it's the one available (See, DGB? I told you I was 3rd Party)

VOTE: Ythan

By the way this is the first moment a50 shows any sign of suspecting me, for when I continue to read anon.

[Ythan]

Words postgame with whoever wasted a shot on at best dgb.

[Ythan]

Hey explicit Dunn sheepers I too have strongly town read him all game but take a look at his case on jjh and then read jjh and tell me how you feel about it then please.

[Ythan]

Oh yeah thanks I forgot to point out that bizarro take in 2574.

Looks like you have the capacity to respond to my posts care to address any of the stuff I've been harping on you to acknowledge all day?

[Ythan]

I'll add to my A50 TR that I thought him not realizing the SK thing is potentially +town and at worst NAI (it definitely felt like a real misunderstanding), and that his aggressive impatience at me only addressing myself and not the game is real annoyance at what he views as unproductive discourse, which to me also feels +town

I've asked him repeatedly to tell me whether realizing he was wrong has influenced any of his reads about any single thing but he keeps ignoring it so he can eat rope until he becomes useful.

Read this book.

[Ythan]

Lol "goon"

[Ythan]

To be fair 730 does list me as a suspect, it's actual reads I was looking for and you pulled it completely from your ass.

[Ythan]

Yeah that's what town spends their time doing.

[Ythan]

I'll add to my A50 TR that I thought him not realizing the SK thing is potentially +town and at worst NAI (it definitely felt like a real misunderstanding), and that his aggressive impatience at me only addressing myself and not the game is real annoyance at what he views as unproductive discourse, which to me also feels +town

I've asked him repeatedly to tell me whether realizing he was wrong has influenced any of his reads about any single thing but he keeps ignoring it so he can eat rope until he becomes useful.

ignorethisifyou'reshittyscum

[Ythan]

"His arguments" are monstrously trash to the point I don't think it's honest.

[Ythan]

Meanwhile Dunn is leading a wagon on jjh for what?

[Ythan]

Rope this.

[Ythan]

VOTE: a50

come fly me with me dunn, come fly away

Nice I forgot you hadn't done that yet.

[Ythan]

We're gonna play a fun game when this is over called let's look at some a50 posts.

[Ythan]

(yeah that's the ticket)

[Ythan]

He seems very sure of himself for the stream of consciousness nonsense he's posting and I don't buy that that surety is honest.

[Ythan]

the sad thing is a50 doing this ??? push makes it so a ythan scum world literally does not need to do anything except react which is just annoying

That is sad but what can you do hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Ythan]

OOOOOOOOOO BUDDY

[Ythan]

AGar I have a sound effect cued up for if you hop on but if you don't do it we won't get to see what it is

[Ythan]

I think the obvious answer is that he's attacking whoever pays attention to him.

[Ythan]

Parlez vous anglais?

This is honestly too rich.

[Ythan]

Oh I feel it...

[Ythan]

Please answer AGar's question I wanna hear his follow-up.

[Ythan]

like am i really chainsawing ythan? ive made my position on ythan clear. if dunn moves there im moving there. im not defending ythan, im saying ur push is just so bad it makes life for a scum ythan easy. its just way too flawed and too ridic where im doubting your sincerity

This is a TOTALLY ACCURATE AND COMPLETE DESCRIPTION of a50's Oka case.

[Ythan]

If it makes no sense it makes no sense.

Why the hell did you join this game

[Ythan]

Fuck, I gotta go to bed.

@A50

Just fucking answer 3750 straight up before I wake up in like 4 and a half hours.

If my experience is any indication save your breath.

[Ythan]

Boooooooooo

[Ythan]

AGAIN: If you truly SR'd Ythan you would have been pushing HIM still. NO TOWNIE would ever care if they're being pushed as partners with an UNFLIPPED SCUMREAD. They would still go for their SR first and THEN (if/when they do actually flip red) they'd try to defend themselves.

This it's just straight up shit and not true

[Ythan]

Your panicking because you look afraid of flipping Ythan because you already know he is Scum. How do you know? Because you're his partner. And if you were smart enough you would have still pushed HIM anyway to nhave something to fall back on (watch me tutor you on how to play Scum, Scum)

This is you shaping a narrative to fit your attacks

[Ythan]

Now let's assume the BEST CASE for you: I flip green, the Vig shoots in you/Ythan and Town eliminate the other tomorrow. I'm fine with that trade, although I very much doubt it would even come to that.

This is pointless bleating

[Ythan]

If you're not going to respond to my posts stop wasting everyone's time and let a replacement answer for you.

[Ythan]

Wow and right after I post that too.

[Ythan]

Rope this.

[Ythan]

Dude don't leave me here with this.

[Ythan]

Shitty scum is completely incapable of defending itself and just stops responding to all accusations and questions.

[Ythan]

R. O. P. E.

[Ythan]

More than your day.

[Ythan]

Your English is very good. Hm.

[Ythan]

It's easy when you just pick little snippets huh.

[Ythan]

It feels pretty doubtful right now that you caught the mafia in last year's tm but you can show me if you want.

[Ythan]

I don't think anyone in this game (or even on the whole of this galaxy) can think I am Scum with Ythan.

(highfive)

[Ythan]

Yo that's actually a good post too I think.

[Ythan]

I guess tomorrow I can sift through all this and see if anything might have been lost in translation, didn't realize that was an issue, but this still feels like bad scum trying to make up content. While admittedly actively avoiding the players engaging hardest with him.

[Ythan]

Yeah because he knew that was coming, you've been so reliable.

[Ythan]

Respond to accusations like you belong in this game.

[Ythan]

How appropriate that you'd choose yellow considering where we find ourselves.

[Ythan]

Jjh wagon has always been trash we covered this hours ago. You disappoint me.

[Ythan]

honestly dunn if we want to purge we should purge bottom up and jjh is not the bottom of the barrel

[Ythan]

honestly dunn if we want to purge we should purge bottom up and jjh is not the bottom of the barrel

That was 99 minutes ago.

[Ythan]

It's almost as if the cases on me are all bad.

[Ythan]

Besides Titus I remember nodding at that one.

[Ythan]

Guess that's it for the night if he's too chicken to talk to me.

[Ythan]

Guess that's it for the night if he's too chicken to talk to me.

This is a colloquial expression for a coward I'm not literally calling him a chicken.

[Ythan]

Also look how pure that Ythan wagon is

It's crazy we live in a world where a player could post this.

[Ythan]

Ythan (3): Almost50, Titus, AGar

Purity

[Ythan]

Ythan is enjoying taking refuge in logic against an illogical player.

And you want what exactly.

[Ythan]

yet your greatest suspicion is more or less based on policy

Is it.

[Ythan]

How far does the less in more or less extend for you.

[Ythan]

If you think my current line of play is policy then who cares about your interpretation honestly

[Ythan]

VOTE: jjh

I kinda regret that already

Please tell me all about how to find scum.

[Ythan]

If you're going to act condescending make less shitty arguments because "you're wrong" is disappointing.

[Ythan]

Like for real is your answer really to place a bad vote and then waffle to make up for it.

[Ythan]

Jjh remains a bad wagon and I've still yet to see anything to make it better.

[Ythan]

That's kinda just saying the same thing twice though.

[Ythan]

Hey explicit Dunn sheepers I too have strongly town read him all game but take a look at his case on jjh and then read jjh and tell me how you feel about it then please.

[Ythan]

Not you the explicit sheepers, but thank you.

[Ythan]

I guess sheep is the noun I'm looking for.

[Ythan]

Not that anyone is literally a sheep.

[Ythan]

I can imagine if I were scum and got targeted by an announcer I might feel it would seem scummy to hide it.

[Ythan]

1) Why are you not expending literally any energy trying to get a wagon on Ythan pushed further?
2) If your scumread on Oka is independent of Ythan, case it. And explain why you're abandoning your "solves" in 3233 so rapidly.
3) Hypothetically, if Ythan was an IC, how does that impact your opinion of Oka?

1) What more can I do? You tell me.
2) I can only vote one person at a time, so I don't really need to make a case on someone I'm not voting today.
3) In that case I'd have done the thing we're not supposed to talk about openly in the thread.

P.S. 1 & 2 are serious answers. 3 is obviously sarcastic, because I can't see Ythan as Town, let alone IC. Like "Hypothetically, if A50 was an amphibian..." HOLD ON! Monkeys are mammals!

Daily reminder this slot is obvious bad scum

[Ythan]

Actually, Dann also had the Announcing Modifier. Can everybody ask their "more-experienced-in-moderating team members" what that could mean?

Did I ask YOU to give an opinion? Are you am experienced mod? Which one of your team members gave that response? And -most of all- WTF does the answer have to do with the question?

The previous game didn't have a repeated Modifier. This game does. I am asking what that means from the perspective of setup speculation done by experienced mods in Normal Games. What does the fact a game didn't have something have to do with the fact another game does?

You know what? I'll stop it at this. I was just trying to make it clear to EVERYONE how you are pretending to be engaged but are actually contributing absolutely nothing.

Remember when a50 pretended to want input about the claim and then made this massive shitpost when he got it.

[Ythan]

Mas I'd like to be convinced that a role listed as normal for any alignment must be town here but it's gonna take a little more.

[Ythan]

1) What more can I do? You tell me.
2) I can only vote one person at a time, so I don't really need to make a case on someone I'm not voting today.

1) You could exert energy on that slot at least somewhat close to what you're exerting on Oka.
2) You've spent almost all of your Day 2 energy on Oka, yet you won't make a formal case, because "you aren't voting them", but you won't do anything about the person you're voting?

VOTE: Almost50

[Ythan]

What are you trying to give us a demonstration?

[Ythan]

Dumb af but w/e

[Ythan]

"You've pointed out" yeah sorry for not sheeping you? What the fuck are you talking about. I don't care about your purported opinions.

[Ythan]

Cephrir who has been on this site since 2006 is voting me for pushing a player he has said is town.

[Ythan]

I will try to take your difficulties into consideration in the future.

[Ythan]

That's not why I'm voting though but by all means keep up your garbage.

[Ythan]

What did you expect placing a stupid vote on a toxic player.

[Ythan]

Be worth more than the rest of your posting.

[Ythan]

1) What more can I do? You tell me.
2) I can only vote one person at a time, so I don't really need to make a case on someone I'm not voting today.

1) You could exert energy on that slot at least somewhat close to what you're exerting on Oka.
2) You've spent almost all of your Day 2 energy on Oka, yet you won't make a formal case, because "you aren't voting them", but you won't do anything about the person you're voting?

VOTE: Almost50

You think I've done nothing to wagon Ythan, and Oka thinks I'm doing too much to the point I should stop. We need a third person's opinion!

But you know what? I know this is probably going to upset a couple of players that I really respect and didn't want to upset, but I

do have a guilty on Ythan

I am one of these roles: Watcher/Follower/Detective/Psychologist. Pick your favourite option, deduce the logical result I got, and get back to me when you're done making bad arguments. THANK YOU.

What a moronic post. Is this a for real claim?

[Ythan]

It is a serious claim. I apparently forced a fakeclaim from now confirmed scum. I think that might have been a mistake lol I could have easily gone down today without it.

[Ythan]

We can eliminate me today and confirm a50 as scum but there are at least three ways I can die and any of them will confirm him.

[Ythan]

Woohoo!!! You fucked up!

[Ythan]

Of course they'd have the most disposable shit scum take the fall.

[Ythan]

Let's see if Scum can deduce what exact role I am.

Of course they can you fool they just sacrificed you to maybe kill me lol.

[Ythan]

Haha I was right and everyone who said a50 was town can suck it.

[Ythan]

I expect to see votes consolidating on the two of us in coming posts.

[Ythan]

May I remind you all of DGB's sig? It states:

Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

Keep that one in the back of your minds for later today

You didn't make a good claim moron you made it as vague as possible because you're lying. We'll see this very soon now because you have now failed.

[Ythan]

I'm vanilla that's why I know it's a lie no matter which of those roles he was.

You fakeclaimed against a VT who was possibly already the elimination today good job scum.

[Ythan]

yes, this is definitely a situation where scum would fake a guilty, for sure

Far be it for me to say he's any good at this game.

[Ythan]

No offense Ythan but if he's choosing to fakeclaim on someone why does he go for you

Kill me and see.

[Ythan]

Trading with scum even shit scum as a VT is a personal victory. Go town.

[Ythan]

OH LOOK HE TOOK IT BACK

[Ythan]

Kill this trash lollllllllllllllllllll

[Ythan]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Ythan]

Haha.

[Ythan]

The longer you wait to vote him the worse it looks lol

[Ythan]

VOTE: luca

i hate this game good night

This might as well be a second confirmed scum!

[Ythan]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Ythan]

ok bud

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Ythan]

Where'd everyone go this game just became fun finally

[Ythan]

You bet!!

[Ythan]

Scum just fakeclaimed to rolefish me and try to get me miselimed. Vote it.

[Ythan]

Haha

[Ythan]

Guess you're still here then huh.

[Ythan]

I don't see you voting confirmed scum.

[Ythan]

yes, this is definitely a situation where scum would fake a guilty, for sure

L FUCKING O FUCKING L

[Ythan]

I’d rather not vote for my partner :/

...

[Ythan]

Is this a bigger idiot than I thought.

[Ythan]

Worse than fucking Albert b rampage

[Ythan]

Jesus fucking Christ good job a50

[Ythan]

unvote

Stupid

[Ythan]

Handing scum the game. Terrible terrible terrible at this game.

[Ythan]

VOTE: Cephrir

[Ythan]

unvote

Nah

[Ythan]

You can eat shit about me being wrong that the moronic fakeclaim was an even more moronic town fakeclaim

[Ythan]

IV why even save him

[Ythan]

You should have just let his dead weight swing.

[Ythan]

Give the vig a chance I guess.

[Ythan]

Everyone stifling laughter right now is scum but how do we check that.

[Ythan]

If you even wanted to entertain that he would go first.

[Ythan]

And I think the vig deserves a chance first because there is nothing to be gained from running up a probable you-know.

[Ythan]

Yes but if we come to a point that a50 would be eliminated then it's better for the vig to have a chance to shoot him.

[Ythan]

Are you saying you adjusted your play between games to be better town?

[Ythan]

Ever notice anything like this in all the games you've played in the past or was it the first run of this game that it clicked?

[Ythan]

wdym?

Given you've been here seven years it just seems awfully convenient to suddenly make a change like that now. Ykwim?

[Ythan]

Cool cool ty.

[Ythan]

Consider clarifying!

[Ythan]

Cool cool.

[Ythan]

I don't think so.

Pedit oh I gotchu, nah I like little posts

[Ythan]

If anyone cares at all I don't think I can intentionally fake toxicity against players I know are town and I feel it would be unethical and destructive to try.

[Ythan]

I mean I almost want to reign in even the the free flowing stream of consciousness posting because it sometimes leads to toxicity but that's not a decision I've made yet.

[Ythan]

Comrade I intend to put a lot more stock in your opinions from here on.

[Ythan]

Comrade I intend to put a lot more stock in your opinions from here on.

Where do you stand on Oka?

I absolutely refuse to effort tonight but revelations have undermined the warm feelings I was getting while we were tunneling you together I can say that much.

[Ythan]

[*]innocentvillager, representing Class of 2175

Wait what

[Ythan]

Never mind whatever

[Ythan]

Do you have a read list to compare with mine (or mastina's, or Titus', or anyone else's)?

Not really I don't keep one prepared and I'm not gonna waste your time with my shaken feelings rn before reevaluating things post-incident.

[Ythan]

Oka and AGar stand out I'll say that. I'm not delving deeper or placing a vote rn though.

[Ythan]

Like, right now I have this as the bottom half of my read list:

[*]innocentvillager, representing Class of 2175
[*]Bell the worst, representing Daylight Savings Time
[*]AGar, representing Pa-Ni-Nis
[*]Luca Blight hercule, representing Onlyregfans
[*]jjh927, representing All your Scummies belong to us
[*]Hopkirk, representing Team 'Team 'Team' Team' Team
[*]OkaPoka, representing Suicide Squad

Yet the scumfuck is still voting for Ythan.

Curious!

I think at this point we have to reevaluate what that means.

[Ythan]

Sometimes a scumfuck claims scum in thread and you yeet the fucker. It's pretty straightforward.

There's other fucks involved.

[Ythan]

VC flavor this game is great have I said that.

[Ythan]

Sorry for being mean. Not related to the unvote just wanted to catch you right after posting.

[Ythan]

Very gracious of you.

[Ythan]

I sure hope that doesn't make hitting town five times MORE likely but who knows.

[Ythan]

If we're scum together so is a third player and as soon as one of the three of us dies the other two would be confirmed. So.

[Ythan]

Well no I guess I and the two of them aren't as connected maybe. But the two of them are.

[Ythan]

I can't imagine a situation though where a50 and I are cooperating once that third player steps in.

[Ythan]

I can't imagine a situation though where a50 and I are cooperating once that third player steps in.

This holds regardless of my alignment actually. If a50 is not town we will find out now with certainty in due time AND bag a second scum for no good reason.

[Ythan]

Did you happen to catch why I unvoted a50 when he retracted the claim?

[Ythan]

I'm being intentionally vague! I'm not sure how clear to be so I hope you don't mind if I wait for more relevant parties to post and continue to be coy for the moment.

[Ythan]

More relevant than me that is.

[Ythan]

How you feeling Ceph still around?

[Ythan]

Nah just checkin in ty

[Ythan]

Bell I think you could accomplish a lot by posting as much as possible right now if you're still clueless and are town.

[Ythan]

Idrk what about but it's a thought.

[Ythan]

Man if I didn't fuck up this is gonna be cool.

[Ythan]

I had a feeling oh well. I find everything up to that point very interesting.

[Ythan]

I think Bell is likely town here anyone wanna weigh in on that?

[Ythan]

A50 tm2021 mvp

[Ythan]

I think Bell is likely town here anyone wanna weigh in on that?

Why do you think so?

I think scum were likely aware of what he missed by the time he made those posts, and I do believe he missed it.

[Ythan]

More when it continues onto page 169.

[Ythan]

Did you happen to catch why I unvoted a50 when he retracted the claim?

I recall it being that you felt it would be appropriate for a vig to shoot imm to sort and we should hunt else where.

I think this is a town post.

[Ythan]

We are no longer accepting further townslips of ignorance at the moment.

[Ythan]

Who caught the claim I've been talking about BEFORE the conversation on 169 tell the truth if you're town please.

[Ythan]

If it's what I think it is then I don't see how it's a townslip on Bell's part, as if Ythan hadn't drawn attention to it it's quite possible that no-one would have noticed.

This is my fear with everyone acting so clueless. I thought most players would have noticed.

[Ythan]

I thought four players missing it (times four actually because team mafia) was unlikely. It still sounds unlikely as I type it out.

[Ythan]

And I think the vig deserves a chance first because there is nothing to be gained from running up a probable you-know.

[Ythan]

I’d rather not vote for my partner :/

If it's just this, I don't really care about it

its not this that was just me shitposting

apparently there was some 5d chess going on while i was shitposting that I still have not figured out

Are you saying that 4054 is a shitpost.

[Ythan]

So if I was to

VOTE: Almost50

What would you say about that

[Ythan]

Yeah it's bad.

[Ythan]

This game is surreal.

[Ythan]

Ceph quit posting worthless filler.

[Ythan]

There's apparently no reason not to immediately eliminate a50 who faked a guilty on me and then took it back when I crushed him with town energy.

[Ythan]

Scrap the town read on Bell too if that's not clear.

[Ythan]

If you'd rather eliminate me then do that and shoot a50 tonight or eliminate him tomorrow.

[Ythan]

I don't see you voting confirmed scum.

We're back here now.

[Ythan]

I didn't get the pedit that wasn't directed at you SPECIFICALLY

[Ythan]

That's all irreverent now. We're deciding which of the two of us swings first.