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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:16 pm
by PenguinPower
That’s like a D2/3 thing to consider tbh.

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:16 pm
by PenguinPower
At the earliest

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:17 pm
by Bridgeburners
In post 200, PenguinPower wrote:That’s like a D2/3 thing to consider tbh.
This is why I always pocket you first <3

Skitter is taking over for a bit

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:17 pm
by implosion
isis how would you respond if i told you that i give out reads like candy in the first few pages in like, half my games.

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:19 pm
by Isis
there's two alignments, so you're scum in half your games. those are the ones with the halloween reads

let's be mathies together

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:21 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 191, Infinity 324 wrote:the caps lock part is what I was wondering about? Why is implo towny there
@isis

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:21 pm
by implosion
how would you respond if i lied and said i haven't drawn scum in six years

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:21 pm
by ben dover123
In post 171, implosion wrote:
In post 162, ben dover123 wrote:I'm probably not going to be as solve-y as I have been in my last couple of games given that I want to take this game slow and get good reads/analysis over time. In my usual proactive style 1. I get burned out after the game and 2. my analysis isn't too great when I'm being overly proactive. So I'm planning to fix that here and try getting more accurate reads and raise my standards for giving out reads.
Don't really like this as a response to Datisi's probing. Feels like kind of a weasely way to get out of being caught- "yeah, I'm not playing to my town meta, but it's totally intentional".

It also *kind of* sidesteps the point, you can be solve-y without necessarily handing out free reads early.
Usually people accuse me of lacking proactivity and being solve-y so I provided reason to why I am like so this game. It's very understandable that he has such a concern given that there is a pretty stark contrast to this version of my playstyle and my usual dose of over-proactiveness.

Honestly I thought being solve-y was all about sorting people and getting reads on everyone. Also at the time I hadn't found too much AI stuff to latch onto but it seems like discussion is finally picking up now.

I'm not sure about Isis' analysis for implo being scum, it seems a little bit of a stretch to me.
In post 183, Isis wrote:how is that a townslip? doesn't this setup only have a godfather a quarter of the time or something?
No, take a look at the setup page: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=JK9%2B%2B

Godfather is only in the C9++ version of the setup.
In post 198, implosion wrote:I also think there is a pretty solid chance that bridgeburners are scum but that is very definitely something to litigate later.
Can you expand on this read for me? I can't grasp the "bridgeburners being scum" take yet.

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:24 pm
by implosion
In post 207, ben dover123 wrote:Can you expand on this read for me? I can't grasp the "bridgeburners being scum" take yet.
I mean just like, I don't
actually
know menalque's meta but i'm like 90% sure he's not outside of his scum range. So there's no reason to write them off as town, though there's no reason to run them up rn.

I do think there's probably an ever-so-slightly above random chance that all of the openwolfing comments from menalque actually do come from scum, but not enough so to matter.

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:25 pm
by Scipio1
In post 188, Menalque wrote:Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
You say this and yet you're trying to get me hanged for my supposed 'slip.'

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:27 pm
by Bridgeburners
do y'all want the spamposting version, or nice long wall version of catching up?

~ skitter

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:28 pm
by Isis
In post 205, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 191, Infinity 324 wrote:the caps lock part is what I was wondering about? Why is implo towny there
@isis
if that post doesn't read towny to you I feel like you have a PT with some other players you could ask about it

it's very analytical

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:29 pm
by Isis
In post 206, implosion wrote:how would you respond if i lied and said i haven't drawn scum in six years
i would respond by bragging about beating scum!you a year or two ago
obvi

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:29 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 210, Bridgeburners wrote:do y'all want the spamposting version, or nice long wall version of catching up?

~ skitter
Spamposty pls

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:31 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 211, Isis wrote:
In post 205, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 191, Infinity 324 wrote:the caps lock part is what I was wondering about? Why is implo towny there
@isis
if that post doesn't read towny to you I feel like you have a PT with some other players you could ask about it

it's very analytical
Really don't think it's outside of an average scumrange but ok

@skitter wallposty!

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:31 pm
by Bridgeburners
eh your'e getting a very abbreviated wall of assorted thoguths that i will probably elaborate upon request, as i'm already halfway thru

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:32 pm
by PenguinPower
commences zoning out

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:34 pm
by Scipio1
In post 207, ben dover123 wrote:Usually people accuse me of lacking proactivity and being solve-y so I provided reason to why I am like so this game. It's very understandable that he has such a concern given that there is a pretty stark contrast to this version of my playstyle and my usual dose of over-proactiveness.
ew

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:40 pm
by Bridgeburners
In post 8, PenguinPower wrote:intro thought: if skitter and mena are scum they finally get to play scum together.
<3

~
assorted thoughts as i read through:

-> p1 dats, scipio, penguin is a bit townie
-> i think is townie for infinity here
-> maybe also gypyx, amybe also aaron
-> i feel like i should have thoughts on implo's and , but i do not
-> mena is hilarious
-> ben's feels townie to me, and i just have good vibes all around on him
In post 175, Isis wrote:skitter didn't tell the mod right away about her V/LA in Mini 2113 as town, but did so in Newbie 1951 as scum and did so in Silent Star 3 as scum. I'm sure further citations will dilute this pattern but even with a weak pattern, it feels significant when this is a game where she's in a hydra and she knows it matters less. It's also somewhat less town-hydra-y to opt for shouting that out to the mod right away versus consulting with Menalque to ascertain how necessary it is or isn't, since as town it's a shared responsibility to solve the game and as scum the posting pattern is more of a visible lifestyle or that's a bad metaphor I was trying to think of a better one.
isis :(
this is not a good take

~

ok i'm caught up ama
i have many many many townreads

isis is my only scumread
idk where we're voting but

VOTE: isis

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:43 pm
by PenguinPower
Will
you
write me a haiku if I vote Isis?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:44 pm
by Isis
I will write you a sonnet if you vote skitter

I don't think she scumreads me

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:44 pm
by PenguinPower
But, I like haiku and I’ve been pocketed.

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:45 pm
by Isis
Oh I can do a haiku also

you probably actually prefer those over sonnets don't you

pedit: getting pocketed is ok, I think you are pretty towny this game but I don't want to treat you as out of your scumrange or what have you

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:45 pm
by Bridgeburners
In post 219, PenguinPower wrote:Will
you
write me a haiku if I vote Isis?
only if u will accept very bad ones
In post 220, Isis wrote:I will write you a sonnet if you vote skitter

I don't think she scumreads me
:( i think you are scum and this is very sad
idk why you decided to pick this fight tho

~ skitter

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:47 pm
by Infinity 324
>I have too many TRs
>Isis and skitter are SRing each other
>gypyx is also in the game

Something seems familiar