Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

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Also, not sure what gm/irish existing have to do with my alignment

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i mean upon being pressed you seem to have that reaction a lot

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you've been ignoring a lot of my points, including:

he literally tried to quickhammer wheme tho >.>

adn the entire irish wagon was people you're saying you're townreading (me / jv / fizz) so who exactly are the 'bad and scummy votes against irish'???

t3 i feel like this vote hop is oppurtunistic and just you switching because jv is pushing ahri and it seems to have more traction atm

she coulnd't explain her votes or why she was making them tho ....

not sure what the replacement being pending has to do with it

pedit @t3

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t3 + irish imo

pedit t3 is andante
wheme is ? i forget
irish is hog i think

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Living Player Roster

Andante
GrandpaMo
Fizz Raab
Hand of Glory
Ahri
skitter30 (SE)
PookyTheMagicalBear (SE)
GeorgeBailey (SE)
JacksonVirgo (SE)

Eliminated Players

cabd is it possible to update this with the replacements? like who replaced who?

I think george -> wheme
hog -> irish
andante -> t3

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i really can't let it go lol

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ok ok sinze fizz outted themselves that changed my gamesolve. we vote ahri today ( since also everyone for sum reason is voting them)

Why is this a good reason to vote her ?

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Fine. I'll hammer at my lunchbreak if no one has anything else to say, bit once again under protest

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Ty cabd!

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I'll do it if we're all ready

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My gut says this is a super bad idea >.>

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I'm leaning towards wheme here
I was very, very, very wrong yesterday, and i'll own that

I think jv, grandpamo are still hard town
T3 probably town

Between wheme and irish's slot (catboi) for me

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Ok, I've read enough, I wanna get Ahri here, not even taking this seriously, has yet to out a genuine read, ignored the whole JV/GM stuff, like I'm not seeing any genuine effort to scumhunt coming from Ahri. And all of Ahri's posts just read as them taking this game as a joke

VOTE: Ahri

by this you should be "scumreading" or wanting to elim Bailey as well, no? They have 1 post this game
(Note: not saying i sr them, but by sr'ing for usefulness to town)

This is +town for t3

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Especially given how stubborn andante was when i pushed her for it
Sorry andante <3

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anyways bad elims for today are jackson / HoG / the afk / skitter

mainly because given jackson / hog's playstyle it's so easy to mess up and openclaim mafia
and the afk / skitter haven't really done anything and are capable of a lot more

Ok this supports that conclusion

Hog (now catboi)
Afk (now wheme)

These arent good reasons to clear these people

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Yeah, I realize more yet now.

The "catgirl vs. eurosnob" idea was just idiotic. It was a shit idea to suggest it, no less so as "theatre". Nothing else to say there. I didn't mean it as "emotional~ random dumb! vs. analytical", as you presented it. Or I would probably have noticed all of you using it sooner.

I shouldn't have said anything about the character of Ahri, ever, not knowing her.

If I called Ahri a "magical [!] 8-ball" on thread, that was just mafia misdirection and not my actual judgment of Ahri.
If I called her a "deep-space oracle" or "vig shot D1" backstage, it was meant as "energy", because I'd read that you should boost your scumbuddy, not as her being "random" at all. I've said here that I didn't think she was being random.

But again -- I shouldn't have said shit about someone I don't know. Who hates me now. Rightly.

"Spewing lies."
It

was

my first online mafia game. I've lurked elsewhere (probably also not understanding much), and I've played irl (years before), and I've inhaled the wiki far too much and believed in it far too much -- yeah.
I drew scum, was anxious to be "proactive", and always tell my partner all my thoughts to avoid cornering them into an impossible situation by miscoordination. Went well. I realize I gave too many "instructions" to Ahri, all that micromanagement. They weren't meant as commands, they really just were what I thought.

I did try to read the thread and make sense of it. Then you all mock that I don't know where to begin engaging if the entire thread is always "scum reading" what I'm doing.

"Being aggressive."
You were setting me up for that by being intentionally stupid in two different ways. There's also parts where I called the sudden counterstrategies or scum pair calls strikingly smart.

@skitter

"What do you think of Andante?"
On the private thread? Astonishing scumdar, not good at selling it, and play early on that I called newbish or terrible while being a newb myself. Yeah, that's arrogant, though if you've seen people give these tells, it happens. You all made a point of using intentionally terrible scum tells.

On this thread? I thought that their intentionally obfuscating posts were annoying me, also irl for saying that their style is annoying me. Sure, I get that Ahri thinks the same about me, but I never called

her

style annoying. It is precisely nothing like what Andante used. Ahri used her own style throughout the thread as I thought she would, not this "like whatever idk how it's even, i'll iso them tonight" -- that's precisely why I

liked

(what I thought was) Ahri's style.

I'm sorry, all of you.

Right ... this post
So, i think that hog and ahri had a private thread given that he was talking abt/responding to things ahri seemed to have said, except ahri didnt say them here. I thought at thw time masons, so didnt call that much attention to it, but scum pt works too

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VOTE: catboi

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I got distracted by something >.>

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Like even look at the @skitter section, he's clearly diffrentiating between things that happened here and elsewhere

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gm can you look at the hog post i quoted on the prior page and tell me what exactly he's talking abt there?

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yeah that's what i'm getting at

what is the 'private' thread. try to figure out what he's responding to because he's quoting things that literally didn't happen in this thread
and he's talking to/with ahri, who we know was in a private thread (namely, the scum pt)

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yes, and unless i'm misreading this horribly, it looks like he's responding to things ahri said in the scum pt/daychat here

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... did i like miss the whole convo that you're talking abt?

Hog maybe i'm missing something super obvious but idk what you're talking abt

@andante i will try to respond shortly

see what i said at the time

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i'm sorry catboi

i will say i'm not 100% convinced he's scum and not a troll, but it does look like he's in a pt with ahri in those posts

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i'm not like crazy raeding that post that way, right?

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fwiw if you're actually scum the game should probably have been rerolled? idk
i definitely noted it and called it out to cabd at the time, but kinda forgot abt it until like two hours ago when i saw that hog/wheme were viable ahri partners

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catboi if i'm totally reading this wrong i would appreciate getting your reads for afterwards tho

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how did he demonstrate he doesn't know that fizz was a pr?

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i'm not sure i really see the 'catboi didn't know fizz was a pr thing' tbh

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Yeah, I realize more yet now.

The "catgirl vs. eurosnob" idea was just idiotic. It was a shit idea to suggest it, no less so as "theatre". Nothing else to say there. I didn't mean it as "emotional~ random dumb! vs. analytical", as you presented it. Or I would probably have noticed all of you using it sooner.

catgirl vs eurosnob never happened in tjis thread, i looked for it several times

He seems to be referring to an idea that was talked abt elsewhere, but commenting on its success/failure here

Like where did he 'suggest' talking about this? He seems to think he did

I shouldn't have said anything about the character of Ahri, ever, not knowing her.

If I called Ahri a "magical [!] 8-ball" on thread, that was just mafia misdirection and not my actual judgment of Ahri.
If I called her a "deep-space oracle" or "vig shot D1" backstage, it was meant as "energy", because I'd read that you should boost your scumbuddy, not as her being "random" at all. I've said

here

that I didn't think she was being random.

But again -- I shouldn't have said shit about someone I don't know. Who hates me now. Rightly.

from the above couple of paragraphs:
- he actually did call ahri magical 8 ball in thread (i'll find it and quote it'
- he seems to have done it to 'boost his scumbuddy' ahri (and she, of course, actuallyz flipped scum)
- she's apparently pissed at him ('she hates me now'), but that never happened in this thread, but he's reacting as if it did happen ~somewhere~ - he seems to he defending himself for what he did that pissed off ahri, and explaining why he did it (to help out his scumbuddy)
- the simplest explanation to me is that ahri got pissed off in the scum pt by ehat he said here, and he's defending himself here
- notice that i bolded the word 'here' above, throughout this whooe post there's a distinction between things that happened 'here' (i.e. this pt) and things that happened elsewhere (which i'm positing is the scumpt because what else could it be given no mason pt?)

"Spewing lies."
It

was

my first online mafia game. I've lurked elsewhere (probably also not understanding much), and I've played irl (years before), and I've inhaled the wiki far too much and believed in it far too much -- yeah.

I drew scum

, was anxious to be "proactive", and

always tell my partner all my thoughts to avoid cornering them into an impossible situation by miscoordination.

Went well. I realize I gave too many "

instructions" to Ahri, all that micromanagement.

They weren't meant as commands, they really just were what I thought.
literally claims scum + insinuates ahri/scum partner was pissed abt micromanagement - which, also further explains the argument in the above section


I did try to read the thread and make sense of it. Then you all mock that I don't know where to begin engaging if the entire thread is always "scum reading" what I'm doing.

"Being aggressive."
You were setting me up for that by being intentionally stupid in two different ways. There's also parts where I called the sudden counterstrategies or scum pair calls strikingly smart.

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"What do you think of Andante?"

On the private thread?

Astonishing scumdar, not good at selling it, and play early on that I called newbish or terrible while being a newb myself. Yeah, that's arrogant, though if you've seen people give these tells, it happens. You all made a point of using intentionally terrible scum tells.

On this thread?

I thought that their intentionally obfuscating posts were annoying me, also irl for saying that their style is annoying me. Sure, I get that Ahri thinks the same about me, but I never called

her

style annoying. It is precisely nothing like what Andante used. Ahri used her own style throughout the thread as I thought she would, not this "like whatever idk how it's even, i'll iso them tonight" -- that's precisely why I

liked

(what I thought was) Ahri's style.

hes clearly diffrentiating thinga that happened here and in a 'private thread', and diffrentiating betweej how he trulu views andante's play (i.em what he said abt her when he could be candid in the private thread) and what he said in this one

I'm sorry, all of you.

@jv
Bolded for emphasis, red my own commenrary and explanation

There is a clear indication that he's responding to things ahri said elsewhwre, that she got pissed off at him (which didn't happen here), and he's defending himself

He literally claims scum with ahri (and if you want to claim he's just a town troll, how did he know anri was scum?)

And he's making clear distinctions between things that happened here and things that happened elsewhere (which i'm positing must be the scum pt)

There's too much truth/fact sprinkled in (namelu that ahri is scum) for this to be a troll who made the whole thing up imo

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I think this is very important so if any of you still dont get what i'm saying lmk and i'll try again

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Also there's the fact that catboi thinks its a confession: makes me think he has reason to believe its true, namely:
- he actually is scum
- with the deceased ahri
- and that he saw said fight between ahri/hog in the scum pt

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Also there's the fact that catboi thinks its a confession: makes me think he has reason to believe its true, namely:
- he actually is scum
- with the deceased ahri
- and that he saw said fight between ahri/hog in the scum pt

but why would catboi risk that shit?

i mean just because it isn't a good idea doesn't mean he wouldn't do it anyways if he thought he got caught

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i mean i absolutely agree that a lot of what he's posted is utter nonsense

my problem is that one of his posts seems to be referring to specific conversations that very clearly didn't happen here,

and in that very post he all but claimed scum with osmeone we later found out was, indeed, scum

if not for that latter point i'd probably disregard this altogether, but given that ahri was in fact scum i dont' think i can ignore it entirely

and, in turn, i dislike that you're saying i 'selectively interpreted' something when i'm quoting a post where he literally claimed scum wiht the flipped scum

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I think you should basically always elim me today but I want to read and find the last mafia so you know who to vote tomorrow

i would appreciate that in case i'm super super super wrong

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i think that hog scumslipped and would vastly prefer him today

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I think you should basically always elim me today but I want to read and find the last mafia so you know who to vote tomorrow

i would appreciate that in case i'm super super super wrong

so catboi flips town then its up to me / wheme / t3?

if catboi's town jv dies it's probably me/you/wheme/t3 f4 tomorrow, yes
we can always noflip get another kill and force a f3 if we want in that universe

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thank god I didn't have to actually try, I'm surprised it took that long

Ah, you knew this was a thing?
I'm happy i remembered abt it cuz i first saw it when it was made and promptly forgot

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Gg everyone, thanks cabd

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i think hog slipped being in a mason (or scum?) thread and is posting things in the wrong thread ...
and i'm trying to not say that directly

(don't expect a response, just noting somewhere)

@skitter
"What do you think of Andante?"
On the private thread? Astonishing scumdar, not good at selling it, and play early on that I called newbish or terrible while being a newb myself. Yeah, that's arrogant, though if you've seen people give these tells, it happens. You all made a point of using intentionally terrible scum tells.

like is he in a mason pt with andante or something like lol

Pms to cabd ^

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Yeah i'm surprised it took that long given how obvious it was
Thanks for repping in anyways :)

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Penguin i greatly enjoyed your flavor