Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:16 pm
vote count 1.04
with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-04-21 10:15:00).
You know what I’ve learned from playing more than a few games around here? The Scum like to control the game state only when they absolutely have to (unless the Scum have a few really seasoned or skilled players, and there’s just not that many players like that out there). If they feel we’re closing in, then they start pushing back. Otherwise? They let the Town eat themselves. The easiest way to avoid that is by getting the harder players to read to either post or die.In post 199, osuka wrote:come on man isn’t this like scum 101In post 196, Andresvmb wrote:I think Anya’s instinct to vote a player that’s lurking given how the game has gone has some merit.
as scum, that’s a move that takes zero effort and has like nearly zero riskIn post 201, Andresvmb wrote:You know what I’ve learned from playing more than a few games around here? The Scum like to control the game state only when they absolutely have to (unless the Scum have a few really seasoned or skilled players, and there’s just not that many players like that out there). If they feel we’re closing in, then they start pushing back. Otherwise? They let the Town eat themselves. The easiest way to avoid that is by getting the harder players to read to either post or die.In post 199, osuka wrote:come on man isn’t this like scum 101In post 196, Andresvmb wrote:I think Anya’s instinct to vote a player that’s lurking given how the game has gone has some merit.
That’s only if the players we push don’t make any effort to fight back. And we do take substantial risk in leaving players that don’t want to actually make their alignments more obvious to the rest of us. You might think short term it’s a bad play, but I’ve lost way too many games because the more obvious players are killed first, the Town make a few mistakes, and the players left at the end have limited posting histories and bad voting records.In post 202, osuka wrote:as scum, that’s a move that takes zero effort and has like nearly zero riskIn post 201, Andresvmb wrote:You know what I’ve learned from playing more than a few games around here? The Scum like to control the game state only when they absolutely have to (unless the Scum have a few really seasoned or skilled players, and there’s just not that many players like that out there). If they feel we’re closing in, then they start pushing back. Otherwise? They let the Town eat themselves. The easiest way to avoid that is by getting the harder players to read to either post or die.In post 199, osuka wrote:come on man isn’t this like scum 101In post 196, Andresvmb wrote:I think Anya’s instinct to vote a player that’s lurking given how the game has gone has some merit.
first of all: “we”?In post 203, Andresvmb wrote:That’s only if the players we push don’t make any effort to fight back. And we do take substantial risk in leaving players that don’t want to actually make their alignments more obvious to the rest of us. You might think short term it’s a bad play, but I’ve lost way too many games because the more obvious players are killed first, the Town make a few mistakes, and the players left at the end have limited posting histories and bad voting records.In post 202, osuka wrote:as scum, that’s a move that takes zero effort and has like nearly zero riskIn post 201, Andresvmb wrote:You know what I’ve learned from playing more than a few games around here? The Scum like to control the game state only when they absolutely have to (unless the Scum have a few really seasoned or skilled players, and there’s just not that many players like that out there). If they feel we’re closing in, then they start pushing back. Otherwise? They let the Town eat themselves. The easiest way to avoid that is by getting the harder players to read to either post or die.In post 199, osuka wrote:come on man isn’t this like scum 101In post 196, Andresvmb wrote:I think Anya’s instinct to vote a player that’s lurking given how the game has gone has some merit.
this takes the cake for being the least insightful post of the thread so farIn post 204, PawnsGambit wrote:That's why you shouldn't vote out players for being obnoxious.
The Town.In post 205, osuka wrote:first of all: “we”?
I haven’t made up my mind about Anya at all btw. But at the very least I can understand what they appear to be going for.In post 205, osuka wrote:really what i said was that you shouldn’t give anya towncred for that
isn’t that like shitposting 101?In post 207, Andresvmb wrote:That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.
Isn’t this just asking random questions 101?In post 210, osuka wrote:isn’t that like shitposting 101?In post 207, Andresvmb wrote:That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.
i literally started the post you quoted with “as scum”
come on you’re better than thisIn post 211, Andresvmb wrote:Isn’t this just asking random questions 101?In post 210, osuka wrote:isn’t that like shitposting 101?In post 207, Andresvmb wrote:That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.
Scum slips are rare. And I don’t make them.In post 212, osuka wrote:i literally started the post you quoted with “as scum”
i’m not ready to call that a slip but that’s one of the weirdest posts i’ve ever seen from you
Shouldn't you be more worried about scum lurkers than town lurkers?In post 215, Andresvmb wrote:Scum slips are rare. And I don’t make them.In post 212, osuka wrote:i literally started the post you quoted with “as scum”
i’m not ready to call that a slip but that’s one of the weirdest posts i’ve ever seen from you
What I was saying is that we do run the risk of letting Scum get away with a few easy executions, yes. That’s a risk. But that only happens if the players being pushed don’t fight back. If they do, and we can correctly read the reactions, then we can move on and find a better target. People tend to more actively participate when they’re under pressure. I am tired of letting Town skate by just so that they can be made easy targets later in games.
Yeah it’s a shitpost I agree. So? Where’s the real content? A player with two posts isn’t worth defending as far as I’m concerned.In post 213, osuka wrote:come on you’re better than thisIn post 211, Andresvmb wrote:Isn’t this just asking random questions 101?In post 210, osuka wrote:isn’t that like shitposting 101?In post 207, Andresvmb wrote:That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.
i’m saying that’s a shitpost and you shouldn’t take it seriously
other than the useless self meta i’m willing to call this an ok postIn post 215, Andresvmb wrote:Scum slips are rare. And I don’t make them.In post 212, osuka wrote:i literally started the post you quoted with “as scum”
i’m not ready to call that a slip but that’s one of the weirdest posts i’ve ever seen from you
What I was saying is that we do run the risk of letting Scum get away with a few easy executions, yes. That’s a risk. But that only happens if the players being pushed don’t fight back. If they do, and we can correctly read the reactions, then we can move on and find a better target. People tend to more actively participate when they’re under pressure. I am tired of letting Town skate by just so that they can be made easy targets later in games.
What are you asking me exactly? Where is my vote right now?In post 216, PawnsGambit wrote:Shouldn't you be more worried about scum lurkers than town lurkers?
a player with no content can’t be pushed because they have no content so you couldn’t possibly read them. my point being, any read you have on a player with 2 posts, at least one of which is a shitpost, is completely made upIn post 217, Andresvmb wrote:Yeah it’s a shitpost I agree. So? Where’s the real content? A player with two posts isn’t worth defending as far as I’m concerned.In post 213, osuka wrote:come on you’re better than thisIn post 211, Andresvmb wrote:Isn’t this just asking random questions 101?In post 210, osuka wrote:isn’t that like shitposting 101?In post 207, Andresvmb wrote:That’s until you can sell me on someone that’s actually Scummy of course I wouldn’t pass up on such a vote. But it’s still early in the game and we have multiple players with <5 posts. Like c’mon now. And affirming that you’re confirmed Town by your second post and not putting anything else out there does ping me.
i’m saying that’s a shitpost and you shouldn’t take it seriously
definitely not this oneIn post 214, PawnsGambit wrote:What's the most insightful post?
Mmm, that doesn't quite jibe with me. You clearly were making a joke and expected for it to be taken as a joke. Osuka's reaction of not believing you (prudent) while not acting like it was a blatant joke (not prudent at all) would be the last reaction I would expect.In post 180, Andresvmb wrote:He called me out for lying, which I obviously was since I was simply entering the game and throwing out nonsense. My perception is that osuka would have tried to buddy me if they were not being genuine. Like agreed with my post and voted the same player, or immediately placed me as Town (since I was quite obviously extending an olive branch). Instead, osuka gives me crap about putting misinformation out there. And then later, they question me for “defending them”. That seems like a Town player actually concerned about getting pocketed. So it earns a pass from me.In post 108, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Andres, you said that osuka's reaction seemed genuine. Can you elaborate? What would an ungenuine reaction from osuka look like?
Let's talk about this. Can you explain what you mean by "letting them stay in the game"?In post 168, Andresvmb wrote:I can explain what I was trying to do and you guys can tell me what you think.
I didn’t have a strong read of osuka when I first approached the game. But, last time we played, I failed to listen to them (in a way that clearly hurt the Town, since they were correct and I wasn’t), and so I wanted to let them stay in the game, provide input, and see where it lead. Yeah, they’re pretty tricky to read. But I thought I would give it a chance.
yeah you’ve never played with me so just letting you know i’m not going anywhere anytime soon so expect high post count, short posts.In post 222, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Mmm, that doesn't quite jibe with me. You clearly were making a joke and expected for it to be taken as a joke. Osuka's reaction of not believing you (prudent) while not acting like it was a blatant joke (not prudent at all) would be the last reaction I would expect.In post 180, Andresvmb wrote:He called me out for lying, which I obviously was since I was simply entering the game and throwing out nonsense. My perception is that osuka would have tried to buddy me if they were not being genuine. Like agreed with my post and voted the same player, or immediately placed me as Town (since I was quite obviously extending an olive branch). Instead, osuka gives me crap about putting misinformation out there. And then later, they question me for “defending them”. That seems like a Town player actually concerned about getting pocketed. So it earns a pass from me.In post 108, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Andres, you said that osuka's reaction seemed genuine. Can you elaborate? What would an ungenuine reaction from osuka look like?
Let's talk about this. Can you explain what you mean by "letting them stay in the game"?In post 168, Andresvmb wrote:I can explain what I was trying to do and you guys can tell me what you think.
I didn’t have a strong read of osuka when I first approached the game. But, last time we played, I failed to listen to them (in a way that clearly hurt the Town, since they were correct and I wasn’t), and so I wanted to let them stay in the game, provide input, and see where it lead. Yeah, they’re pretty tricky to read. But I thought I would give it a chance.
As an aside, the game has been open for less than 24 hours; nobody is a lurker yet. Osuka, you have more posts than the second and third most prolific posters combined. Dial it down.
Not voting for them and asking for their thoughts.In post 222, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Let's talk about this. Can you explain what you mean by "letting them stay in the game"?