Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[notscience]

Do you have a blurb for them?

[notscience]

I mean messy is at least tangible

I’d think you’d find expressing an explanation on me kinda important considering an overall “he’s town” consensus by five of your top six reads lol, but you do you.

[notscience]

Okay.

Let’s wrap this up and get this show on the road.

[notscience]

I understand not wanting to interact with me but I’d expect him to do more if 9/11 players are townreading someone I thought was scum.

[notscience]

That last I was a he. Sorry.

[notscience]

Please make sure we get an elim.

[notscience]

Noddy is stuck in a nacho tunnel, has asked for handholding, and I still don't see evidence past his initial scum read on nacho.

It really feels like

cakes

mara

is throwing buzzwords and shade just for the sake of throwing around buzzwords and shade

I have regularly tried to engage every lurker. I have regularly tried to get people with unconventional reads. I have been the driving force trying to wrangle this town.

Nice discredit though!

@bulge vote nacho in your respond to prod please. I’ve been trying to give time but I’m not playing this last second deadline scramble game.

[notscience]

To get people with unconventional reads to explain their unconventional reads.

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Also, Mara, given you are now the counterwagon- you should know if you’re town and therefore should be willing to vote someone you don’t know for sure.

Alright I’m going to work y’all have fun.

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Bork I know you’re waiting snd going to talk to peta, but if you haven’t changed your mind by tonight please hammer. I’d rather not have the deadline scramble on my low access day.

Thanks!

[notscience]

All good. I’ll be around later tonight, at work then dinner with my family.

[notscience]

VOTE: notmafia

I’m trash, I’ll sheep mena, etc

[notscience]

Nacho flipping green makes me want to cull the townblock.

But not Bork.

[notscience]

I knew peta was scum and should have just said kill him first.

I’m sorry.

[notscience]

I spent all of last day tuning out my friend so he couldn’t soothesay me because I was that confident in myself.

I also told mena if he flipped green I’d give him my vote for the day.

You want my vote? Earn it.

[notscience]

Bork help me kill notmaf please

[notscience]

Nacho flipping green makes me want to cull the townblock.

But not Bork.

Do you have any other opinions or shift of thought in light of the flips?

Saying you were wrong on Nacho and right on peta is very limited.

I just think my PoE hit wrong.

I was skeptical about infinity but she’s been way better today.

[notscience]

She fades off as scum, her resurgence in activity is a good sign.

[notscience]

She fades off as scum, her resurgence in activity is a good sign.

When immediately attacked?

As someone who does the same, it’s more so just avoidance of the thread in general

It’s too stressful imo

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UNVOTE:

[notscience]

The plot thickens

[notscience]

notscience is town

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VOTE: cakez

Meh wynaut

[notscience]

Bring it chuckles the odds of you killing me are 10%>

[notscience]

Something something track record of low availability sundays something

Beetle juice something

I have to put in my truck order then drive home.

[notscience]

1) and I’ve been at work most of the day too
2) I have been at work for majority of the night and people here can confirm that’s just how my schedule is
3) why not means I don’t see a reason not to atm? His vote was a pure sheep off mine when I told him he could Jill me today if I’m wrong and I’m noticing a lack of trying to kill me. You can’t engage notmaf through traditional means and I’m letting him do his own thing so i can read him. And besides, if I was still scumreading him why the fuck would I try to start a counterwagob

Ninja-
All menas done is enjoy elimming notmaf bc it’s a policy thing and I’m not voting for policy I’m voting people I scumread lmao

[notscience]

I don’t really expect to get listened to this day phase

My role this day phase is that crazy uncle you try to rope in at the last minute

[notscience]

I was scumreading him for his piss poor day one. I figured it was either “he’s mad I said I could read him” or “he’s scum”

I’m not scumreading him now because he’s tryharding

[notscience]

You never agreed first off I was just being nice

And are you scumreading or policying? I’m not voting policy.

[notscience]

Have you met notmafia

That’s more than he does in half his games lmao

[notscience]

I think I’ll move in a vote block with Bork today.

[notscience]

I’d ask if you think being a dick was a good way to get my vote but I think it’s hypocritical lmao

[notscience]

It’s up in the air

I’m trying to untilt myself.

[notscience]

This conversation isn’t tilting me

Miselimming nacho did

[notscience]

I figured you out, Bell!

Note: I did figure it out actually but it’s not fun to be serious

[notscience]

I see menas game and raise you mini normal 2148

I’d link but lolphonepost

[notscience]

Be town or die

[notscience]

I would like bulge to interact with me some. Him writing me off as easy as he has (while yes what I want to hear) is weird in retrospect. As the pool keeps narrowing he hasn't shown me enough to escape it and I don't think I'm dying any time soon and I hate being in fucking mylo with him

I hate mylo in general

Re: Iverson (now that I am actually home) I think us butting heads is kinda par for the course. If notmaf is town I'd be more concerned there, which reminds me- https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

I suppose the similarities aren't fully the same and are more OMGUSy in nature. But given how the wagon has gone with little fight back (just like yesterdays) there is some skepticism here.

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I mean Im not I was just explaining my off the cuff read from work with the benchmark I used

It actually wasnt why I townread him in popcorn either

But anyways, I wonder if nacho was the competing wagon with L/G? If so theres most likely scum in our townblock. I mean I kinda think so already. But I'm paranoid. And fearmongering.

[notscience]

That's fine skitter. I think if he's scum he's probably avoiding me to continue to rack up the pressure. I'm going to interact with him when I Get the chance, but I think for the time being I wouldn't trust my reads. If I feel solid footing I'll say something.

Cakez is just discrediting me because its really hard to get to a scumread on me and not just get jumped on, maybe if you kill like bork? Maybe?

Regarding mena- I'm not really sure how scum-mena stances around townie wagons he's not already on? Does he cheerlead or whiteknight typically?

[notscience]

Meh I viewed it as such.

I get if you think I'm scum. I'm not really going to argue it anymore, I'm trying to look at other stuff. If you want to kill me today feel free.

ninja-
Thats actually a really good point.

[notscience]

Threw shade

Criticized

discredit

tomato tomato

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re: notscience. i think everything scum-ns does is typically just lacking a layer of temerity, even if it's sometimes analytic in nature, it doesn't break the barriers of someone being legitimately confident in engaging with the thread or its occupants.

685 i think solidly clears that bar for me. NS might be the only player on site i'd be so confident in here, but i just continue not to worry about him, even if he's not been omnipresent.

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But I think Cakez is town at this point so this is all moot anyways

Don't mind me just cherry picking, what?

When I gave my warehouse reads they were my actual reads like if I read the game as town. I felt like he didnt seem like scum here. He was more in line with what I saw from him in legends of the hidden temple.

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I'm looking at the ISO of both games and trying to quantify it in a way that's easily understood

Essentially I felt like Cakez got this certain attitude midway through the day that I noticed in some of his play here as well. Part of it is his criticism in respect to myself (he did something similar there as well) and just his overall snark levels seem like a carbon copy of that game.

Re:Not Maf- I'm not standing in the way anymore actively but I do hold my skepticisms primarily for how easy this wagon seems today. I don't think the parrallels weer as solid as I thought and I kinda latched on to any hopes to have a solid game defining read prematurely.

[notscience]

The wagon on notmafia plus my off the cuff readflip made me think he was town and I was hip shooting and Cakez seemed like a solid target as I anticipated him to take me up on my offer to kill me if I’m wrong on nacho, plus my concern over how easy notmaf was getting wagoned made it seem like ANYWHERE was a good vote

[notscience]

No.

If I had to hip shoot I’d say a notmafia red flip would leave me against killing you but I’m also thinking about how you explicitly said you’ll try weird shit as scum on this account. This is a non answer, I worked 13 hours and my brains pretty much mush so I’m going to bed.

I’ll try to be here tomorrow morning or Wednesday morning but I have the CEO of my company here over the next few days so I’ll be busy.

[notscience]

Legends

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Give me a few days please. Thursday is my day off and I just have some homework to catch up on. Even tomorrow is a long one for me too.

[notscience]

Peta was scum for the hammer plus his predecessor has meta history of lurking out as scum

If he hadn’t flipped I would have pushed it to hell and back today

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VOTE: bulge

I’m cool with this

[notscience]

Bulge

You and me

Thursday’s night

Be there or be square

[notscience]

noddy do you have any history of bulge acting like this before? because this is just not jibing w/ me on any experience i've ever had w/ him (which admittedly isn't that much)

no

This is new territory for me too lmao

My first instinct was him writing me off so easy was weird normally he plays it super close to the vest and thats something both of us have done as scum (accidentally let on too strong a townread on the other)

And in general his levels of engagement are on how much a puzzle there is to solve/he likes being in the murky PoE area anyways to get reads. Him being in the ideal area to get reads and not trying to really engage is concerning. Like in Illicit he was outside of his comfort zone and the game was harder.

But like I know he got lost in tenet

BUT IF HES HERE RN

why does this gamestate say you are town

explain im five pls ty

ninja-
I was thinking about it on the way home and remember nachos early townread on salsa and hes typically a newbie whisperer so im kinda fine slotting you as town for now

Everything youre doing is par for the course and I know I dont have a scum baseline for you but this is the lens I want to try.

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Bork I think I owe nacho popcorn shots.

I'm reading his big readslist wall right now. I'm really confused why Mara thinks she is likely to die if town. and this isn't me saying I am going to die- I think you have the highest chance of dying, they won't let the two of us get to the final day together. VFT/Infinity maybe.

I agree with nachos points about one of the four of us having scum in it because that's where my mind went right after his townflip, that stunted wagon would have to have had scum on it given how hard I had to work to get it going.

ninja-
Yeah he was giffy lmao

Except Id show him some shit cabd was doing and hed be like "yeah hes fucking scum dude"

[notscience]

He was cleared by d2 in illicit bork, you don't remember how he started lurking it out because he got disengaged from it?

Which reminds me I never got the PTs from illicit >:(

[notscience]

But yeah like

id expect him to sink his teeth into SOMETHING by now

Maybe hes banking on me succumbing to pressure wrt him again but like... meh

I was looking at nacho's wall and he had some interesting points WRT mena

ninja-
yeah, so like this is like after he got cleared, which is weird, because he is in no way cleared here and should be able to sink his teeth in more

BULGE IM TALKIN SHIT AND STAYING UP TO EAT LO MEIN WHERE ARE YOU

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Disaster Cartel: I'm at the point where I really hope that we're not in the position it's 2-2 and we have to find scum #5 but this would probably be the best bet. I didn't like Mena's early approach to me in 508 - the idea that I should have been townreading him because we had some similar reads and he voted L&G before me is an easy reason to townread me. I also don't like how he votes L&G - he votes them and then talks about how scum won't bus in this setup and is sure to point out that he voted them before me, as if he's trying to get townread for a correct vote. I don't like his approach to Kismet when Kismet suspects him - his argument that Kismet is scumreading him because he wasn't townreading Kismet here is strange (I could maaaybe understand if Mena was scumreading Kismet before this point, but he wasn't), and I think that his read not being affected at all by the bork reveal is unnatural. His reads overall aren't very well fleshed out despite him seeming to have a decent amount of time to flesh them out.

Particularly the part about the scum wouldnt bus thing. I could easily see Mena trying to deepwolf with the early javelin throw.

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How do you think scum approached nacho? When I was talking through my early read on Cakez I was kinda thinking he could be town again. But I think its crazy to think the first five votes were all town.

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I think the weirdest thing about Mara's nacho stance was she was trying to argue against his wagon without ever calling him town

Like it was almost taboo to say. Theres constant talk about how notmaf was being ignored, and nachos wagon was too sticky (which is fair)

I also dont understand how she misconstrued what I was trying to say then restated it in her own words a few posts later but thats not really AI thats just like... huh...

[notscience]

it was all implication, we literally had that same issue from when she first replaced in, its really weird she was so vague around the main wagon of the day without really ever doing a town case?

I'm trying to decide if I think scum was all trying to push against it to ride the towncred.

ninja-
I mean yeah, I just think for someone so adamant nacho was town she did fuckall to stop the wagon (granted she is going to blame me and I do agree I am at least part to blame) but like even peta did more lol

I kinda wanna kill bulge tbh the more i think about stuff

[notscience]

A wise man once told me if certain people in the PoE keep escaping eliminations look at whos leading

so like, yeah

I want to kill bulge more than mara I just have misgivings (but I do see your points)

ninja-
Yeah, I think that's a fair thing to say. I think what nacho said in his wall was something that bothered me too, it took her super long to really get going and she was continually asking for handholding/a recap (she'd later accuse me of doing it) and he was saying she would normally find something to chase.

[notscience]

At a glance at the wagon Im feeling some kinda way given how this same group went yesterday

mmmm

[notscience]

Im going to bed

if im here tomorrow night ill be drunk

so if you wanna drunk post with me lemme know good night all

[notscience]

I’m sheeping nacho

MARGARITA ONE BOYS GALS AND NON-BINARY PALS

[notscience]

Bulge you never explained your joke to me

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I just got off

I also think bulge is doing what I do to him all the time and it’s fucking weird to be on this side

[notscience]

In drinking on an empty stomach so yes

[notscience]

See jokes on you

I don’t read

[notscience]

Who’s scum on the nacho wagon

[notscience]

I just got home I’m almost done my marg

About to start my sangria

[notscience]

This might be the tequila but looking town doesn’t really sound like scum bulge either

It sounds like he’s me

Ninja-
I have some grapefruit tequila in my glove box

Unopened ofc

[notscience]

Bulge I want to kill one of nachos scumreads today

I’m not really super picky

What do you think about mena

[notscience]

Like trying to town it up

Ninja/
I’ve replaced into his slot, played against him as scum and with him as town I don’t really know what to expect from him as scum

I’m just toying with the thought that scum was white knighting nacho.

[notscience]

I mean yeah

But you’re kidding yourself if you think scum me has the stones to funnel ducking nacho lmao

[notscience]

Talk to me about prism bulge

What do you think so far

[notscience]

Prism plays hard and doesn’t like the halfassed Shit

But is fair and willing to give space to engage

But like if you’re town here this scumteam is weird

Idk I can find reasons to townreads most of the game

[notscience]

Mara for the weird “no lim”

Bork because he’s town

Cakez has a lot of parrallels to his approach on me I don’t think he’d anticipate me looking at

You are just playing this game fucking wacky

Salsa wasn’t awful and prisms par for the course

Mena did fairly call nacho and was going against the grain fairly heavily

Skitter and lillith both have seemed towb individually like Bork had it pegged with the comparison to tenet and lillith was more active than legends imo

Infinity is fairly high volume and actually scumhunting decently which I noticed a difference in the levels when I was skimming some other games of hers

Notmaf for the weird wagon although I suppose it’s now been derailed for you so

Ninja
I mean I’m using meta but like for Bork it works he’s burnt on scum and I fully admit I don’t have scum baselines for some of these folks

[notscience]

Mf I just asked if you thought all scum were defending nacho and you went paranoid on md

[notscience]

I mean mena did flat out say he didn’t want a towbloc without him in it

[notscience]

Okay so the townbloc was me Bork skitter infinity and you think infinity is the scum

Like okay

Why

[notscience]

I’ve tried rereading your wall read on her like three times

Like I get she’s pinging you and I get you think she has a predetermined slot where she wanted everyone in her reads

But I’m missing the step you think she’s missing

[notscience]

I feel like at least for me I’ve been in that null read for her and unless I missed something she never really looked for elaboration.

Yeah everyone vouched but like

Mmmm

[notscience]

I’m watching one punch man

Last thing go iso infinity snd search my name in particular and tel me what you think (search notsci)

[notscience]

Idk I’m on season one still

I read it all and figured it was time to watch it

I like puri puri prisoner snd metal bat

And MUMEN RIDER

[notscience]

It just seemed SUPER weak

Like me townreading Bork so confidently and doing that is something nai for me

Also look at viz I have a monthly 2 dollar sub and I get 100 manga chapters a day

[notscience]

Tell her I say hi

Good night folks

[notscience]

But like why is the thing

I burned my cred yesterday it’s not like I could stop the wagon on him

[notscience]

I’m not really townreading him but I’m defending him

This feels familiar

[notscience]

I 4 1 think more people should look at Infinity’s read on me

I also can literally never remember bulge trying to obvtown and I think it’s funny looking back at it now regardless of his alignment

[notscience]

I am defending him despite no real townread on him.

That typically means he's scum. I don't think I'd feel guilty about it otherwise.

[notscience]

Yeah, I was answering Bork's question.

[notscience]

That's the only thing stopping me from voting there

It was all "This wagon is weird its bad" and not "hes town wtf"

[notscience]

That was bulge lmao

[notscience]

Games weird.

[notscience]

I’ll vote either and am following Bork

But unsubstantiated shade on both of the wagons while not suggesting an alternative is lolsy

[notscience]

Also (insert holiday here) is this week so I’m preparing at work for it. I’ll be very LA.

[notscience]

I’ll be around in an hour

But am I the only one who wants to know how you can go from “holy shit I’m going to die if what I think is right” to “I forgot I’m in a game”

[notscience]

You aren't the only one who wishes I had more time to be here. What i expected to be a 56 hour week turned into high 60s lmao

But I'm here now.

Re: Infinity, the one post of hers that stuck out was her asking why scum would send just bulge to push her. I felt like that sounded super inorganic.

I'm gonna try to reread some stuff

ninja-
It's almost like a weird 2181 twilight zone

[notscience]

Its just really hard for me to believe that if all four of us are town noone else tried to hop on to shove nacho earlier

[notscience]

I mean last second crossbus isnt totally out of the realm of possibilities.

[notscience]

Also I think you using meta against me is wack because I don't think we have a game where I was town together before this one

This is a weird post given his scumread on mara

@Bork- notmaf distancing from cakez and neither him nor bulge voting each other is weird

[notscience]

In all fairness my vote on cakez WAS weak

And yeah I didnt have a ton of reasoning but I was feeling it. I'm still kinda feeling it.

[notscience]

bulge only has 8 mentions of the term cakez in his iso lmao

They are both weird townreading each other while not working together at all

[notscience]

I'm still thinking killing bulge is the move here. I am concerned about the wagon makeup, and that I'll make an ass out of myself again, but sometimes you have to take a shot

[notscience]

I'd not be super upset killing these two either.

[notscience]

Sorry I don't have more conclusive thoughts, my mind is fried and I'm about to go to bed.

[notscience]

Bulge picked infinity to fan my paranoia over infinity.

[notscience]

Urge to burn, rising.

[notscience]

Oh

Well fuck

[notscience]

I’m a giant fucking asshole

I hate this game

[notscience]

I was looking at salsa meta earlier

That’s what I said I was reading

But oh well I’m just stupid

[notscience]

I’m getting ducking drunk Wednesday night thanks to work and this game

[notscience]

Lurk fuck are you town

[notscience]

ARWHOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[notscience]

WhT the fuck

[notscience]

I knew I should have just gone to bed after work

[notscience]

What the everliving fuck is going on

[notscience]

What the everliving fuck is going on

idk but you're not drunk enough for it either way

I have another 13 hour day tomorrow

I don’t want to be hungover for it lmao

[notscience]

This is one of those games I’m dreading reading the dead pt

[notscience]

well i feel like a fucking jackass

[notscience]

On the one hand I think it’s below prisms level

On the other hand prism jus talked about yesterday how playing dirty is one thing they do as scum

[notscience]

Cakez you literally did nothing to force through a notmaf wagon where the fuck do you get off

[notscience]

i like cakez on this page

Gun to my head I want to kill DC but everyone wants to kill DC and that’s making me iffy about it.

I don’t like Cakez because he’s acting like we ruined his master plan when he literally did nothing yesterday to kill notmaf.

Like, the game stalled while I was vla and no one did Shit and I came back for one night to chitchat and everyone voted bulge

Like, what the fu k

Ninja-
And they are two wagons I would never in a million years push as scum

[notscience]

Something something bulge has a perfect record of reading me too and now he’s confirmed town something

Ninja-
Nachos just plain intimidating

And bulge is really good at sniffing out when I’m scum so I’d try to avoid him as much as possible instead of spending tons of time trying to engage him

[notscience]

Yes, I did push shit wagons

As bork's already said me feeling shitty about pushing those wagons is just part of my psyche, but I'm trying to be better about not avoiding wagons on people I'm friends with.

Both of those wagons were on town on people who know how to read me who both had me as town. The other person in this game with vast experience reading me (and in your strongest townpool) is also townreading me.

Instead of throwing shade talk to him to understand it if you won't listen to me.

ninja-
That's throwaway commenting you did literally nothing to try and talk people into voting/work with others

ninja-
I'm not apologizing for that throwaway kneejerk while i was at work

[notscience]

Bulge was also in nachos scumreads

I wouldn't. You literally just played with me as scum and if you can't spot the tonal differences in my play than all the times you've seen me as town then you are beyond help lmao

And your play yesterday was bad. Mine was bad as well. But I stand by what I said.

[notscience]

I hate when people do this to me in general
the "you've played with me enough that you should know how to read me" line
Nacho pulled it too

I'm ridiculously easy to read, dude. Yes I did stupid shit. I'm either 100% on or off a cliff.

[notscience]

what is slayers gambit

[notscience]

Once my ship rights we can make a hydra named

o/ \o

[notscience]

Still town.

I don’t think Prism actually has to try and manipulate Bork in that team given I’m the one he has a locktown read on

But nice try! I’m going to get my oil changed I’ll try to read some while I’m there before I head into work

[notscience]

You

VOTE: DC

I’m going to vote at the person half the game is scumreading and nobody is voting because that seems to be how scum has snuck out the last two days

[notscience]

I’m saying your proposed team makes no sense under the idea of manipulating Bork when realistically I’m in a better position to do it than prism

[notscience]

Like I’m getting my sss kicked irl snd it’s leading to what my scum meta was known for and his read has only now began to shake because it’s cylo

Why would we have prism do that and not me just go “you know Bork I’ve really messed up the past few days but I’m really thinking Cakez is the way to go” and obviously he’s autonomous and I’m super simplifying but the point is still there

[notscience]

And I did nothing yesterday but the day I came back for two hours an elim happened despite everyone standing around circlejerking

Soooo

[notscience]

Like Cakez you didn’t even make the argument prism could be distracting so DC wouldn’t be the focus

Like I would have 100% been like yeah sure that’s plausible

So like lmao

[notscience]

UNVOTE:

Rabble rabble

I’m off Wednesday.

[notscience]

I think it’s +town infinity brought up our convo earlier in game about my scum play before I could be snarky about it

But what Bork said- tilt+being super fucking busy has been a pain in my ass. I’m kinda around today. I want to reread but I don’t think I have the time

[notscience]

Tomorrow’s my day off and I have a long list of stuff I want to get done but I’ll be here whenever possible.

Also off Thursday but again, long list.

I feel like we should all be more wary after tenet showed us what happens if one of a core town block is scum but all I have is paranoia pot stirring. I don’t think I’ve seen much lillith and my recollection of her as scum was not remembering what she said it I haven’t hated skitters posting

I think infinity would be lurking

Prism I have no fucking clue but nacho was convinced salsa was town

[notscience]

I’m just rambling

Basically my only experience playing with lillith she was scum and easily PoEd with a fairly forgettable iso and I’m trying to decide if me not remembering now is like that or just being disengaged but I feel like you’re town but I have to factor in both heads

Ninja-
I will not be voting Bork and I understand this statement might draw my paranoia my way but I’d sooner believe I forgot my own alignment was scum than he was scum here

[notscience]

At the end of the day I have no clue what your scumgsme looks like besides the glimpses you yourself have provided. Basically what everyone else said, when it comes to PoE you aren’t the towniest in the game

Like I understand if you think it’s scummy but like... fuck dude idk I’ve been skimming but I’ve had some more pressing stuff going on in my life

Essentially this convo is the same hip shooting you got at the start of d2 that you scumread

[notscience]

Because yesterday was notmafia or bulge and I needed to shit or get off the pot with bulge or today gets ten times worse if he’s scum

Like I understand your point but I don’t really have a counter argument besides “you were left on the back burner”

[notscience]

hi

[notscience]

I’m still not scum lmao

I got my second microchip today!

[notscience]

That requires notscience to have a spine

The truth hurts

Oof

[notscience]

I think it’s interesting today has gone from one person we were ignoring to another person we were ignoring

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feel like the facade is starting to crack

we'll see

Bork did you ever elaborate more on this

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if you're worried about something just out w/ it i'm kinda done

p-edit: @noddy

I’m just paranoid idk

You know I hate these days in general

I’m like playing through the likelihood of you being the only town on the wagon

I also was like “what if scum vft is protecting scum DC” but why wouldn’t dc have hammered then

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Do you think the wagon is all town

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Wasn’t infinity just defending mom saying she’s town as shit

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@Prism for tomorrow-

I don’t think you’ve read this far but I’m curious- do you think Peta knew coming in he wanted to escape n1

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Bork iso peta Ctrl f mom and infinity snd tell me what you think

His mom read is literally just calling her scum a few times and saying everyone’s ignoring her for nacho

His infinity read went from stubborn town to scum when prompted by skitter

I know he never engaged me on his read on me I’m just trying to decide if I think it’s a distance or not

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Like I’m trying to decide if peta knew his slot was doomed and tried to drag others to the grave with him

Ninja-

Okay Bork.

I’m sorry I’ve been away.

VOTE: mom

If I’m wrong again just blame the game on me whatever fuggit

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I would like to kill in me or infinity today.

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Tomorrow’s my long day and Monday I’m working on my finals for school. I’ll be around when possible.

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I know this is entirely wifom but it’s a really stupid idea for scum notsci to kill town Bork here.

Like beyond javelin throw.

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I wonder what happens if we look at day two wagons and see which vote started the momentum to put bulge over notmaf

Ninja-

Wacky scum kills are my thing. Stupid scum day play is my thing. Stupid night kills are not my thing.

Ninja-
Ehhhhhhhh

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I’m saying while he’s he’s a universal townread in a scum notsci world he’s a bad kill given he’s blocking my elim

My “eh” means I find it really weird to say all scum are off wagon(in including myself as town bc role pm) especially considering skitters mena read, and how Mara was kinda obvious just Bork was kinda in the way there for a little bit

Skitter blocked dc

I had enough towncred to keep coasting while my ship rights itself

Infinity maybe? She looks worse after Mara flipped but the other scum associatives for her aren’t great I just didn’t have time to look

Prism tried to die yesterday

Skitter wasn’t getting wagoned

Bork wasn’t getting wagoned

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To sum up my last post I don’t really see a world where Mara isn’t the wagon yesterday and I feel like scum would see it as well

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(But notsci what infinity associatives do you possibly mean you haven’t played in like three weeks)

Petas read on infinity is jacked

The infinity vote gave bulge the momentum over notmaf

One of that OG townbloc has to be scum and if it was skitter she just opted to bus instead of let us kill someone else which is v ????

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Petas reads on everyone were jacked and I want prism to weigh in today

The Mara Read was never justified

Infinity went from town to scummy after being pressed on it

He never explained his read on me but this is just me being salty he didn’t try to

I was trying to figure out how many I think he put in each tier of his readslist

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Scum are going all out to get 2-0 and put us on the back foot for the rest of the game, there’s at least 1, probably 2 scum already on me here, if I were scum I would 100% have been the sacrifice

Name names.

Disaster, infinity and cakez

I doubt this list is all town

Scum are going all out to get 2-0 and put us on the back foot for the rest of the game, there’s at least 1, probably 2 scum already on me here, if I were scum I would 100% have been the sacrifice

Name names.

Disaster, infinity and cakez

Is Leafeon and Glaceon PETA? There’s too many replacements to keep track of

NOTMAF HAS HIGH SCUM EQUITY WITH REPLACEMENTS

I THIUGHT THIS BUT DIDNT POST IT AND WISH I HAD

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We’re all a little mad

Ninja-

Because I find it ridiculously hard to believe that a townbloc of four mowed down two town back to back

Normally when there’s four town and the wagon is that tricky to do it’s a good sign but it was a tricky wagon to get

Ninja-
I was literally talking about petas associatives yesterday but Bork was too burnt to talk about it with me

But like, go off I guess

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Y’all had like three people tell you day one I’m out of scumrange sooooooo

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Hey everyone fun game

Ctrl f infin in all flipped scum isos

Thanks I’ll be here tomorrow have a great night everyone

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NOTMAF HAS HIGH SCUM EQUITY WITH REPLACEMENTS

I THIUGHT THIS BUT DIDNT POST IT AND WISH I HAD

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I’m saying because he’s in a scum pt with them it makes him hyper aware of the amount of replacements which didn’t seem like that much to literally anyone else

And no clue I’m finding it easier to associative hunt

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Do you remember in tenet where some people were confused on who was a hydra and not?

Same concept

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It was used as an anti associative saying two people were less likely to be scum together, iirc most of the people confused about hydrae were town

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Dunn was one of the people who mentioned it a lot iirc

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I’d like to spitball with you Tuesday night around 10 EST

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I think mena is only ever scum with skitter here Cakez.

I’m aware what that makes you think of me.

My point that you quoted is essentially saying I disagree with you because fmpov the wagon of 5 votes being all five town on the hard lurker who went from “I’m gonna die tonight omg” to “I forgot I’m in a game” is not very likely. I think it’s highly probable there’s a scum in conjunction with skitters townread on mena.

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(Notsci why are you trusting skitters read instead of making your own)

I’m trusting Bork

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My dankest spiciest take is all the replacements are scum and that is what prompted not mafias post

I’m too chickenshit to push it though

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I think mena is only ever scum with skitter here Cakez.

i don't understand this

Skitter has been hard defending mena most of the game

What’s not to understand

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I think it’s highly probable there’s a scum in conjunction with skitters townread on mena.

idk what you're trying to say here

Cakez said first four all town. I know I’m town.

I’m trusting your mena read. That means either the mod forgot to give someone a scum pm or one of the first four is scum.

My dankest spiciest take is all the replacements are scum and that is what prompted not mafias post

I’m too chickenshit to push it though

sooooooo you're saying infinity/iverson?

That’s what I’ve talked myself into

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I’ll be totally honest I have no clue.

Associatives and vca point to infinity. I know I’m stuck here until the end of the game so I’m trying my best to find the last one.

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It might help if someone actually had a case on me

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It might also help to try snd convince skitter or the rest of us to ignore skitter in that case

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Cakez make a case on me for me to tear apart tia

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For the record my posting was not to push Infinity

Part of why I feel like she feels so overwhelmed regardless of alignment is noones done shit to try and kill anyone but her today and yeah we just opened but all anyone’s done re me is mild sus

A case would help

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Can you lay out an in depth explanation of why skitter and menas interactions aren’t what you expected? It might help people see what you see.

It would also beg the question why would skitter stick her neck out to save one scum partner by bussing the other

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Look I’ve got a really busy day tomorrow but if you’re town, we need to figure out who the fu k is scum because it’s not us. You have a lot of different things pointing your direction, and I’m still leaning scum but I’m willing to help hash stuff out snd be your sound board. But I need you to help me help you.

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I’ve got to head to bed I have finals in the morning snd work at night.

But please, if you’re town, try to show me your thought process.

Ninja
Interesting. I’m not super up to date with their history so I don’t know all that back story but I really don’t buy the all of the original townbloc is town angle

It’s just so crazy to me

Ninja- if you can show some examples from here and from there to highlight that would be ideal.

Bed now.

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My laptop is charging so I can type my English paper so I’m around a bit if anyone has anything for me

I got an a on my business final but b for the class and I was so close

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You’re the one who’s been saying I’m scum and somehow snowed Bork nacho snd bulge

You must have some real insight!

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That was snarky in my mind and came off condescending so sorry

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I’m not excited I’m bored as fuck because people just say I’m scum without saying why I’m scum

Ninja-
I could just pull the 100% track record of reading me from bulge card

I haven’t

But I could

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Cakez did you ever play the fun fun iso game I recommended

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I’m not excited I’m bored as fuck because people just say I’m scum without saying why I’m scum

Ninja-
I could just pull the 100% track record of reading me from bulge card

I haven’t

But I could

do it I'm desperate here this game is hard as balls

Go look at mine and his PT from legends.

Compare to-
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=83877

One is him scum me town

Second is the opposite

As for isos- go through all flipped scum isos and search infin.

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DC keeps making terrible posts

name 1

Call him a towel

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So peta never gave a read on salsa other than his ranked list

Notmaf’s most quoted person is prism and mentioned that salsa was pretty transparent

Maras not really had a real read on prism either imo

Meeeeeeeeh

Ninja-
Mena look up your scum pool names in flipped scum isos

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For arguments sake I will look up other names tomorrow but for now I have to get back to work

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WE DONE YALL

WOOOOOOOOO

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Even though I found myself on the wrong wagons I did scumread all flipped scum too

I was just trying to go hard and fell on my face

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(But you said notmaf was town)

While I was skimming. At work. While stressing about big bosses coming.

Shaddap.

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For the love of god Cakez you have three flipped town saying in town and three flipped scum with awful associatives with iverson slot and infinity

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Why does scum notsci remove the three people strongly townreading him

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I mean Bork goes

But I probably can use bulge to kill someone else (such as infinity given his scumread)

And we’ve already said I’m too chickenshit to pull day one as scum

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Cakez my point is literally that I have to be the one to say it because y’all ignored when three other people were saying this isn’t how I’d play as scum

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Because I was a nonentity due to my giant workload.

I’d provide screenshots of my hours per week which undercut how many hours I actually did but I think that’s an out of game influence. He was concerned I pettered out and that it was cylo.