Open 815: Forest Fire Redux [Endgame]

[Prism]

It's not disregarding a contextual difference, it's saying I don't think it fully explains the difference.

Contextually it is worse given that you recognized that game the ability to hardtownread you and viewed it as a tossup. This game you immediately retreated towards it as a shield, and it is not the only reason I scumread you. I did not buy your approach towards me from the get-go.

Binding of Isaac was focused around your progressions around other players, of which you've had zero this game.

[Fidget]

I have an amazing scum game until proven other wise

I plan to evaluate you more or less as such actually cx

pedit/ I'll await your verdict eagerly then

[Prism]

Okay yeah w/ 190 this vote stays unless I have to compromise elsewhere

Like seriously, you're this confident despite knowing you've been horribly wrong on me for an extended period of time before?

Hmhmhm

You have absolutely seen similar displays of confidence, and know very well that I do not mind being wrong.

[Prism]

I see the scenario where scum!Prism recognises town!Hectic always hard townreads her when she pushes him and wants to replicate that

This is an extreme stretch given that what you're describing is exactly the tactic I used on you in Scumsman, which I have had to go out of my way to draw your attention that I was scum in.

[Hectic]

Meh, I don't think they're comparable still, considering you haven't seen me react to being hard scumread by you since Chara's Folly as either alignment. Don't like it doesn't change your mind at all and you say you wouldn't move your vote unless it was to compromise

This much confidence this early though? I don't think I have

[Prism]

While we could continue to go back and forth discussing how hypothetically this isn't the exact same context and how much we should weigh that, I will take a moment and let others process what is happening.

[Infinity 324]

Prism have you seen hectic/ydrasse play together before?

[Prism]

Prism have you seen hectic/ydrasse play together before?

Only in briefly spectated snippets.

[Hectic]

Infinity, you should help me duel Prism rather than keeping your vote in the waiting room

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: waiting room

[Infinity 324]

I think prism's play recently fits much more cleanly into a scum trying to look town mindset, but to call it scummy would be a stretch.

[Hectic]

That's the feeling I was trying to articulate when I said her content was good but nothing I'd townread her for

I scumread her for reasons largely based on previous experience now though

[T3]

VOTE: Infinity 324

[Hectic]

Prism have you seen hectic/ydrasse play together before?

Why did you ask this btw?

[Infinity 324]

If the answer was yes, it's less likely scum!prism decides to come out of the gate pushing you I think.

[Hectic]

Cool, that's what I suspected

Like Infinity even more for town now

[Prism]

That's the feeling I was trying to articulate when I said her content was good but nothing I'd townread her for

I scumread her for reasons largely based on previous experience now though

You don't seem particularly interested in any of:

A) The explanation for exactly how I read you correctly in Binding of Isaac, which you can freely crosscheck
B) The blatant reuse of the tactic you're proposing (which I pre-emptively came up with before ever scumreading you as town, by the way)
C) Engaging in a good-faith conversation on the difference rather than using different context as the end-all shield of which I cannot make a guess around

This reads like you realized things were getting worse before they got better and pivoted accordingly.

[Prism]

If the answer was yes, it's less likely scum!prism decides to come out of the gate pushing you I think.

I have not seen the dynamic play out beyond vague months-old recollections but am very aware of it, if that was the point of your question, which was a large motivator in 129, 134, and 140

[Hectic]

That's the feeling I was trying to articulate when I said her content was good but nothing I'd townread her for

I scumread her for reasons largely based on previous experience now though

You don't seem particularly interested in any of:

A) The explanation for exactly how I read you correctly in Binding of Isaac, which you can freely crosscheck
B) The blatant reuse of the tactic you're proposing (which I pre-emptively came up with before ever scumreading you as town, by the way)
C) Engaging in a good-faith conversation on the difference rather than using different context as the end-all shield of which I cannot make a guess around

This reads like you realized things were getting worse before they got better and pivoted accordingly.

A) There hasn't been enough time in the game for progressions to happen
B) Chara's Folly happened after Flying Scumsman, I hard townread you there as you pushed me. That's an indication I'll continue to do it despite that scumblip in Scumsman. I think that would encourage you more than discourage on such a tactic
C) The point was that it doesn't justify a "very scummy" label

[T3]

I think prism's play recently fits much more cleanly into a scum trying to look town mindset, but to call it scummy would be a stretch.

I might be misunderstanding this, but you say it is scum but it's not scummy?

[Hectic]

I'm feeling the hyper readlists this game, I wanna see how they evolve over time

Infinity 324
Ydrasse
Fidget
T3
Lukewarm
Fairy Child
Johnny
Prism

[Infinity 324]

If the answer was yes, it's less likely scum!prism decides to come out of the gate pushing you I think.

I have not seen the dynamic play out beyond vague months-old recollections but am very aware of it, if that was the point of your question, which was a large motivator in 129, 134, and 140

Ah ok. That pushes it a little more into "I'm not sure what you're doing here as scum" territory.

[Infinity 324]

I think prism's play recently fits much more cleanly into a scum trying to look town mindset, but to call it scummy would be a stretch.

I might be misunderstanding this, but you say it is scum but it's not scummy?

Basically I'm saying her play is less towny than earlier but it could easily come from town so I don't really think it's scummy per se

[T3]

Ah, got it. UNVOTE: Infinity 324

[Prism]

A) There hasn't been enough time in the game for progressions to happen

Right, so the bar in 194 is garbage.

B) Chara's Folly happened after Flying Scumsman, I hard townread you there as you pushed me. That's an indication I'll continue to do it despite that scumblip in Scumsman. I think that would encourage you more than discourage on such a tactic

I literally had to draw your attention to the fact that Folly was the only game I did this and that I was scum in Scumsman. I was the one that drew your attention to both of these games and that the trend you gave for Prism-town was incorrect.

I was the one that went back and found the context, and split the hairs over it preemptively with my analysis of it, only to have you essentially go "Well it's different so none of it matters why read into it"