Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[Cabd]

But given th In that case you should be declaring intent because you're essentially a 9x voter here

[Cabd]

Uhh...

I think that a scum team that gets 2 kills a day is way more broken then town getting a vig....

You mean like scum giving 2 shards and a corruptor?

[Cabd]

Isekai uPick

Thanks for your patience with the long design process, and welcome to the game!

Spoiler: Full Playerlist

Dunnstral
Toogeloo
ssbm_Kyouko
DrippingGoofball (replaced T3 pregame)
WhemeStar
ManateeGal
unwnd
Cabd
Lady Lambdadelta
Kate Bishop (hydra of notscience and fferyllt)
Lukewarm
GuyInFreezer
marcistar

Spoiler: Living Players

Dunnstral
Toogeloo
ssbm_Kyouko
DrippingGoofball (replaced T3 pregame)
WhemeStar
ManateeGal
unwnd
Cabd
Lady Lambdadelta
Kate Bishop (hydra of notscience and fferyllt)
Lukewarm
GuyInFreezer
marcistar

Spoiler: Dead Players

None yet.

Game rules:
1. What I say is the final word, though you can probably reference an earlier word of mine to the same effect.
2. Votetags are preferable to bolding votes, but both will be counted
3. You can keep posting after an elimination occurs until I get around to locking the thread.
4: Days last 14 IRL days. Nights last 48 hours.
5. I can change or add things to the rules at any time, though I will not do so maliciously. (See rule 8)
6.

0ffff0

is my colour. Do not use it.
7. No copying exactly what is stated in either private topics or in PMs from me. I am fairly lenient with this rule as long as some effort is made.
8. This game is not bastard.
9. Tell me before you V/LA.
10. You get a prod if you don't post for 48 hours. I'll replace you if you fail to pick up within 24 hours of a prod. If you get prodded a lot and I think the situation is getting out of hand, I might suggest you ask for a replacement or even force replace.
11. Death is final?
12. Don't discuss the game outside of threads specifically for the game.
13. Do not discuss ongoing games.
14. Site rules apply, but you already knew that.
15. You may note that your role PM has a little "Meta" section at the bottom of it. That's where I've discussed a bit about the anime the pick originates from, as well as a little explanation of how the pick relates to the role. This is not game content. Everything else on a role PM could be relevant to the mechanical side of the game. Anything in the meta section will not be revealed by any roles in the game until flip. Players may ask me my opinions on isekai anime either publicly in thread or via PM whenever they like, and I will answer truthfully in uniform fashion, therefore my opinions on isekai anime should be considered public knowledge.

16. The town will win when there are no more living threats to the town.
17. The mafia will win when they control at least 50% of the vote during the day phase.

I want you to know that I very heavily considered quoting the above post and just going oh even though I haven't even fully read it just to troll.

[Cabd]

Why the heck did my voice to text just quote the opening post That's kind of impressive

[Cabd]

This is complete and pure conjecture on my point No bannerino mods that JJH is not the kind of person to provide bork style ready to go fake claims

This is now BASED UPON PUBLIC INFO NO BANERINO X2:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=81811

The mod gives no fakeclaims whatsoever in upicks.

[Cabd]

ffery am I in for a Lashing if I get it wrong?

[Cabd]

Ah. Got it.

Braining hard. Oxbellows finally eat book.

[Cabd]

Placement in tiers is strongest left to right

{Marci, LLD}
{Kate, Dunn, Gif}
{Uwnd, Ssbm, Manatee}
~Line of touch-ability~
{DGB, Wheme, Luke}
{Toog}


I am something like this. Time to break out the sad trombone?

[Cabd]

Wait shit I should have split ffery and notsci to separate tiers damn it.

[Cabd]

Gonna go have a wholesome evening with daughter and stuff,

Until later, all~

[Cabd]

Phone post but SSBM is going to like my placement of Wheme in my list!

[Cabd]

What made you switch on DGB anyways Cabd, you were pointing to something you liked of them and then you went 'nah actually'

Leftovers pile, too many actually town people to justify having it above the line. Despite one or two good posts. Maybe I'm handing out reads too easily but I'm not gonna self doubt and hold back like I did in blood.

[Cabd]

Phone post but SSBM is going to like my placement of Wheme in my list!

I'd like to understand you placement of ssbm when you have time!

Yeah probably our biggest divergence?

I dunno it's just an overall read. I think the pop ins have felt natural and not manufactured to any specific outcome.

[Cabd]

Also I'm going to throw this question to y'all to help me understand things.
What stops Toog from being a passive-aggressive spiteful town who stepped into the game on a wrong foot?
Because I see non-zero possibility of this scenario and ngl it's the big thing that's holding me back.

I want this answered btw.
A good counterargument to this statement will only bolster your scumcase on Toog so it's a win-win!

I sorta answered this already.

[Cabd]

Also I'm going to throw this question to y'all to help me understand things.
What stops Toog from being a passive-aggressive spiteful town who stepped into the game on a wrong foot?
Because I see non-zero possibility of this scenario and ngl it's the big thing that's holding me back.

I want this answered btw.
A good counterargument to this statement will only bolster your scumcase on Toog so it's a win-win!

I sorta answered this already.

I must've missed it in the sea of your cryptic posts.

Nothing stops them but I JUST fell for this exact ploy from notsci and cephrir. Can't disprove a negative but spiteful anti-town play is anti town and going "lol but what if spite" isn't actually useful for game state. Anti town play generally comes from anti town. Pair that with my research on past modded games giving zero safe claims.

[Cabd]

Spoiler: For Cabd Only!

Assume that I'm 100% town. What do you think the chance of me eating NK N1?

Spoiler:

Uhhhh probably not super high until you were dumb enough to ask that lol? You're a lesser known face here Mr. washed up recently returned newbie newbutt~

[Cabd]

I'm yeeted off the game during Night 1. I do not know if I can come back to the game thread afterwards.

All I know is that it works like a commute but staying commuted for unforeseen amount of phases, including the day phase. So I won't even flip. I'm just gonna be yeeted.

Have you actively confirmed that it affects the counts needed for votes, though?

And yeah what dunn said, claiming this was probably a bad idea!

[Cabd]

We aren't mass claiming

Yeah no let's fucking not and say we didn't. A lot of negative util players have claimed, as it is there's a beacon pointing at the unclaimed as positive util...

[Cabd]

ngl with an upick with no scum fakeclaims given, massclaim wouldn't be half a bad idea.

The thought crossed my mind, but nah.

[Cabd]

Cabd, I think we need a tunnel check intervention.

Do you?

Do you actually?

Fine.


Step back and assume crackers. Then posit a dead flipped town Luke and it's day two.

[Cabd]

Cabd, I think we need a tunnel check intervention.

Do you?

Do you actually?

Fine.


Step back and assume crackers. Then posit a dead flipped town Luke and it's day two.

He's in your leftovers, yes?

How did you feel about him early-mid day 1 of

that game

. When did you start townreading him?

Yes.


And when my wife yelled at me excitedly that she had reset and had a theory.

Mostly because of his Titus case being dumb but genuinely believed.

[Cabd]

With two exceptions it's been that easy the past few years.

Sadly for unwnd I think this is another log on the pile.

[Cabd]

That sounds awfully comfirmable.

The unseen sarcasm tags are the deadliest. Mark II

[Cabd]

Wtf so many pages.

I get ONE decent ish night of sleep and this is my payment.


Well then.

Catching up mobile. About to be daughter breakfast time here.

[Cabd]

I dunno.

could be a fishing expedition?

I think this is where I'm at given the inconsistent evolution of the claim and statements about what the claim would eventually be that didn't quite line up.


Having looked into the source material the character being claimed in question is the main character of a show called the devil is a part-timer where said demon-lord/devil/whatever ends up losing the fight and him and a few of his subordinates end up on earth with no real power and so he ends up essentially being a McDonald's cashier. He is still able to draw power from negative emotions of humanity although notably I don't believe it was ever seated that he gets power from their deaths. He usually ends up using the power in ways that comically end up being not evil despite him and his crew retaining their evil alignment.

I think Dunn summarized the weirdness around it pretty well alongside Luke I believe who did the same.

One last part that is speculative on my part as to how town reacts in this situation but we were explicitly told when we got our roles that the flavor justification part can be treated as public knowledge not as mod given information and it even says that in the original rules post and yet that information is far as how the role and flavor tie together was omitted entirely. Why? My guess is because the flavor blurb explains why this roll makes so much sense as a mafia role and wasn't easily adaptable.

[Cabd]

2181 calls.

Hmm?

We should elim ffery by having notsci hammer for revenge? Interesting fetish but okay, no kink shame here.

[Cabd]

Sheeping you guys has led to 2 town stomps so I figured why not you know

I mean, I am not even 50% for stompage rate?

Depends on what you count as a stomp but from my POV and setting aside newbie games...

Stomps: 5
Xenoblade II
Tenet (Perfect win)
Not Quite Normal
Tarot
Yggdrassil (second half only tho)

Not Stomps: 6
Bloodstained (lost)
SmokeFilled Antechamber (still won)
Illciit (still won)
Normal 232 (lost)
Normal 2191 (still won)
Normal 2181 (lost)

[Cabd]

Unwnd, when you're around, it's time to talk Manatee lassie.

[Cabd]

Hey wow what a coincidence this is the moprh head of Cabd talking too.

[Cabd]

Unwnd, when you're around, it's time to talk Manatee lassie.

Catch me up, did Toog claim or something?

Universal backup, but then not like, backup to OUR roles, but "unlocks more roles as town dies" or something. Quoting the post, sec.

[Cabd]

Ready to have your mind blown? I'm the Ultimate back-up. I get more powerful the more townies that die. Enough of them die, I can Roleblock, Jailkeep, Track, Doc, or Cop, hell, I could even neighborize another player.

But I'm going to die a VT, so it don't matter.

I did not get Inuyasha. I just submitted it and wasn't told that it wasn't eligible. I got a pick from one of the other two animes I submitted. I literally submitted 10 characters from different animes. I already claimed I was Sadou Maou, aka King Satan.

So you unlock powers as town die or do you inherit others role like a universal backup

The former.

Neighborize is one of the easiest abilities to unlock. Cop is one of the hardest.

But you did Toog

You said you get them based on how many townies die or something

Yep, townies die, I get powers. That's what I said.

One more question Toog.
Do you unlock the power at the end of the day or end of the night

At night.

[Cabd]

The flavor is the MMC here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... APartTimer

[Cabd]

Not particularly!

[Cabd]

I dunno.

could be a fishing expedition?

I think this is where I'm at given the inconsistent evolution of the claim and statements about what the claim would eventually be that didn't quite line up.


Having looked into the source material the character being claimed in question is the main character of a show called the devil is a part-timer where said demon-lord/devil/whatever ends up losing the fight and him and a few of his subordinates end up on earth with no real power and so he ends up essentially being a McDonald's cashier. He is still able to draw power from negative emotions of humanity although notably I don't believe it was ever seated that he gets power from their deaths. He usually ends up using the power in ways that comically end up being not evil despite him and his crew retaining their evil alignment.

I think Dunn summarized the weirdness around it pretty well alongside Luke I believe who did the same.

One last part that is speculative on my part as to how town reacts in this situation but we were explicitly told when we got our roles that the flavor justification part can be treated as public knowledge not as mod given information and it even says that in the original rules post and yet that information is far as how the role and flavor tie together was omitted entirely. Why? My guess is because the flavor blurb explains why this roll makes so much sense as a mafia role and wasn't easily adaptable.

[Cabd]

I prefer DGB at this point?

That's the point of contention right now.

Let me know when you're caught up?

[Cabd]

Page 47ish? is where stuff started getting meaty.

[Cabd]

Page 47ish? is where stuff started getting meaty.

Kay I'm caught up. Let's chat.

You and I need to have a talk about Spider Desu Ka. Up for that?

Sure.

[Cabd]

I do!

I mean, it's kind of THE major plot point of the novels.

I was dropped on my head as a child, but not THAT often to forget that in a novel series I love!

[Cabd]

Oh my, I think I may like where this is going.

[Cabd]

Completely.

Although "kill" is an understatement.

Lady white does more of a "erase from existing" than a kill, heh.

[Cabd]

More than half!

At the very least, the non-MTG stuff... I uh... actually don't play MTG

[Cabd]

Not enough curve.

I can confirm that I am an extremely curvy lass, does that count?

[Cabd]

Wheme is following the trajectory of my puts on PD before earnings...

[Cabd]

Ah yeah, not everyone queues up to ranked to play nami and morgana all day.

It takes a real angel at heart to do that.

I think we have a few of those running around, but it's bonkers that we could be in XYLIM on day two with claims as stated, yes.

[Cabd]

I'm weighing the possibility that DGB and ArcAngel9 are alts of each other :/

[Cabd]

I was talking about me, lass.

But I know. I don't need any more.

[Cabd]

I was talking about me, lass.

But I know. I don't need any more.

Right but then do you see the problem?

I do absolutely see the problem. But I think I want the dust to settle here first.

Are you caught up yet?

[Cabd]

Of the "DPS" who do you think might be less than legit, here?

[Cabd]

Manatee

You and unwnd both, it seems.

[Cabd]

she didn’t have to show.

? Hurt tags are fairly visible.

[Cabd]

Something something ffery something something soft spot for town siding 3P something something.

[Cabd]

a lil' tired from life shit.

Respectable.

Manatee's vote needs to go down before any potential hammers, so that's where we are, I think?

[Cabd]

Something something ffery something something soft spot for town siding 3P something something.

it's like you're eavesdropping on our hydra convo

It's like I've hydra'd with you for over half a decade spanning 20 games.

[Cabd]

Oh is that where you meant?

Interesting.

Well, the second elim has us all voteless but manatee lass is a 7x voter...

So that's where we'd need to have a friendly fireside chat!

I'm all ears, although I need selling.

[Cabd]

Toog is giving nothing and being vague because he has associative to worry about, it's not just mech shit.

This part is trufax tho.

[Cabd]

(I'm here, but staying out of it as this is helpful data without me muddying. LLD, any other thoughts at this moment? Manatee, I think it's getting close to Fire Emblem Awakening Fredrick-ing time)

[Cabd]

I know you hate homework, but would you mind comparing DGB's pre-outburst play to its play in this one?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85085

I'm off to go mow the lawn. Home ownership: bah

[Cabd]

Wtf so many pages.

I get ONE decent ish night of sleep and this is my payment.


Well then.

Catching up mobile. About to be daughter breakfast time here.

These degenerates finally went to sleep and stopped posting long enough for me to catch up before daughter breakfast time

Should I take this to mean you are also a parent? Realized I never got to actually reply to this~

[Cabd]

Manatee, I think it's getting close to Fire Emblem Awakening Fredrick-ing time

I dont play fire emblem nd am missing the reference

"Pick a god, and pray"

Meaning you need to come to a decision because it's your role and it needs to be before the rest of the game can progress.

I'm not quite sure why you're outsourcing it so heavily. But time shall tell I suppose.

[Cabd]

I wish mistress Marci would come back though.

[Cabd]

i'll make the decision sometime tonight

Think of it this way. Your cabinet can advise you but in the end it is your decision madam president and the voters will hold you accountable.

[Cabd]

:/

Hope life treats you better.

[Cabd]

I highly doubt it was anything you did, lass.

[Cabd]

..Ah.

Let's drop this because site rules, unless it's something in this thread.

Toogslot has done enough fuckery IN THIS GAME to make me pharoh here.

[Cabd]

IMO manatee lass seocndvotes there then we use our actual elim somewhere else for wagon data?

[Cabd]

Have you picked a god?

I prefer Arceus, myself.

[Cabd]

I like ornn.

Look at this guy living in the lap of luxury, not just pressing B to shop (and miss a cannon wave derp) like the rest of us working class champions.

[Cabd]

I'm here.

Insert the dog and fire meme here.

Seriously WTAF imagine believing this is LLD scum.

[Cabd]

Are you fucking DAFT?

Collective you here.

Confirmed openly trolling a la bloodstained-pooky scum toog gets replaced by a competent titus and we lose our collective mind and dance our way into randomly running up LLD?

[Cabd]

No bullshit, unwnd, if you're gonna scum read her put up a case. NO trolling, no lazy ass navel gazing, put up the fucking case and let it get evaluated.

Because right now my hives' hives have hives from this swing.

[Cabd]

Cabd why did you suddenly decide to pop up

Dude, I'm on kiddo time.

You REALLY want to know?

I slept in because Sunday is MY sleepin day then we went to the park for three hours because two year olds need to do a LOT of that unless you want to find everything your house in their mouths (not that stopped her from trying to eat one of the little light bulb things from one of the porcelain xmas trees)

Then we ran by the target at the train station near the park because kiddo goes through two gallons of milk a week and it's conveniently on the way home.

THEN I tackled the never-ending story of laundry and dishwasher.

THEN I worked on helping review a different game.

NOW I am here.

[Cabd]

* raises hand *

I uh, don't think unwnd realized what was going on there and that the wording choice was unfortunate. ~I~ don't particularly feel afraid to go against consensus on an LLD read, as exemplified that I murdered her into the ground in Yggdra.

I do think that the claim, and the way it came out, and the FEELS around it are coming from a town LLD, in a way that absent my own role PM would make her the most town person in this player list from the outside looking in, and I find the scumreads on her absolutely baffling.

[Cabd]

I don't know and I'm trying to understand where these scum reads are coming from.

[Cabd]

I won't ask you to move past it.

I will ask for an actual CASE of the reasoning behind the scum reads on you, the proceed to dunk them all into the Mantle of the earth using Coulomb's Force.

[Cabd]

I will take whatever you've got, I'm not your master's defense panel.

[Cabd]

I'm afraid to

navel gaze because Cabd will make fun of me for it

Here you go using the EXACT same sort of language again.

Just own your actions and do you, stop holding back and blaming others for it.

[Cabd]

Have you possibly considered that tone and textual contact don't always mix well?

[Cabd]

Pick a method of denoting a joking or sarcastic tone perhaps? Like how when I drop a tilde you know I'm being cheeky or joking


Fuck you

Vs

Fuck you~

[Cabd]

shitstirring

There is no way to say it delicately, so here it goes, it smells of scum manipulation. Maybe I'm factually wrong, but that's how my heartstrings are receiving it.

Having been on the receiving end of Niamh's(?) scum ATE manipulation, I'm not going to call it an unreasonable take, but I'm still townreading Rhiannon. I don't know the extent to which the system shares the same mafia toolkit so I try not to extrapolate play across the system members to a huge extent.

Which could be a mistake, but I'm more comfortable being wrong in that way, than being wrong in the opposite way.

Unix, Linux, and OSX all share a base but are VASTLY different operating systems?

One of them can pop in and tell me how wrong I am to think of it that way, though!

[Cabd]

So, shit stirring.... Who was the "she" in your post, ffery?

[Cabd]

Ahhh, I think DGB thought you were talking about LLD herself...

I was confuzzle as well.

[Cabd]

That said, I don't think that the cow lassie's hurt is particularly alignment indicative, my town read comes from reads and early game.

There's a reason that read gets outsourced to THIS morphhead...

[Cabd]

Which could be a mistake, but I'm more comfortable being wrong in that way, than being wrong in the opposite way.

That's kinda the whole point of manipulation.

We are getting dangerously close to telling a person with a mental system that her diagnosed and very real setup is faked for a simple game of mafia and can we fucking not? Like seriously.

I am aware dgb may not be aware of the details and implore it to check the lld accounts signature for the link about what this means.

[Cabd]

Like "what benefit does lying have for me here?" is very simple if you're scum.

11. Death is final?

[Cabd]

Like "what benefit does lying have for me here?" is very simple if you're scum.

11. Death is final?

Oh no.

You don't think....

I am nearly positive I know what it is, given who I am and who else is here so far.

Mafia will 100% play town to have a chance in the second game, methinks.

[Cabd]

There is literally an Isekai title that explains what I think is going on.

[Cabd]

We’re discussing what we think the mods rule that says “Death is final?” means.

^

[Cabd]

Super busy work day, unlikely to have time to post until early evening.

[Cabd]

Hi I'm on lunch for like 15 minutes nothing deep but I'm here.

[Cabd]

Placement in tiers is strongest left to right

{Marci, LLD}
{Kate, Dunn, Gif}
{Uwnd, Ssbm, Manatee}
~Line of touch-ability~
{DGB, Wheme, Luke}
{Toog}


I am something like this. Time to break out the sad trombone?

This still more or less where you are at?

Uhhhhh, mostlysortakindaish although placement within tiers probably shifted.

Toogus aside, if anything wheme down and unwnd down, luke and SSBM up...

Something like this?

{Marci, LLD, Kate}
{Ssbm, Dunn, Gif}
{Manatee, Luke}
~Line of touch-ability~
{DGB, S_S (unwnd)}
{Wheme}

I get that DGB has a valid dreaming god crumb but I'm not sure that's alignment indicative for it.

[Cabd]

Whatcha having for lunch?

Leftover stew from that batch of Carnitas stew I made up over the weekend.


I love that "my dude" has now become part of the lexicon this game btw.

[Cabd]

@Cabd

Do you think DGB's concerns about your play have some basis?

Spoiler: morphhood

In another gamestate I'd be extremely concerned about Katniss.

I think it is expecting more of a xenoblade and less of a bloodstained and this game is gonna be somewhere in the middle.

Spoiler: morphhood

That my lady has ghosted us is really fucking annoying but I have no choice but to follow.

[Cabd]

Well talk about timely.

[Cabd]

Whemestar "vote all of the town in order of townyness" challenge.

[Cabd]

@Cabd

Do you think DGB's concerns about your play have some basis?

Spoiler: morphhood

In another gamestate I'd be extremely concerned about Katniss.

I think it is expecting more of a xenoblade and less of a bloodstained and this game is gonna be somewhere in the middle.

Spoiler: morphhood

That my lady has ghosted us is really fucking annoying but I have no choice but to follow.

Why would DGB expect a xenoblade? Has she played with on-fire-you? I mean, we didn't quite cross paths in cephgame.

More in generalities than that it would expect those specific games.

Pronouns. Hold out your wrist.

[Cabd]

{DGB, S_S (unwnd)}

Why does unwnd do what he did with LLD as scum?

What part of it exactly do you think isn't fakable?

Do you just have no respect for unwnd's ability to play the mafia alignment?

I feel like I JUST had this conversation about the Annie Edison hydra and oh what do you fucking know he managed to put one and one together.

[Cabd]

I don't see why he has a reason too though?

Ooooooooffffff this is a precarious thing.

I can only point at the postgame of Yggdra for reason where there might be preexisting conflict there.

Any more than that is fraught. Sorry.

[Cabd]

Radio Buzz

I was following that, was glad to see Skitter clutch it out.

[Cabd]

AAAUUUUUGGGGGHHHHH.

This, on repeat, using loudspeakers; if you're right.

I'm not convinced you are, but you did homework and I'm just sitting here hoping that the teacher forgot she assigned any.

[Cabd]

I can only point at the postgame of Yggdra for reason where there might be preexisting conflict there.

Idk what you are talking about so Ill just take ur word for it.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=86704

[Cabd]

Uhhhhhhhh then I'm not sure I can help you if you don't see how "unwnd mod screwed over scum team LLD was on" might have been contentious.

Dropping this line entirely.

p-edit: yeah that

[Cabd]

You may disagree but you WERE groupscum that game, dude. You were a hidden traitor to both teams.

[Cabd]

Even when quickposting at lunch my ninja-fu is there.

P.S. you still owe me wrist.

[Cabd]

@Cabd

Do you think DGB's concerns about your play have some basis?

Spoiler: morphhood

In another gamestate I'd be extremely concerned about Katniss.

I think it is expecting more of a xenoblade and less of a bloodstained and this game is gonna be somewhere in the middle.

Spoiler: morphhood

That my lady has ghosted us is really fucking annoying but I have no choice but to follow.

Speaking of which, that multicolored reads list in bloodtained was something you felt forced to do?

I am SO not doing one of those this game. At least not any time soon.

Those are reserved for when I have a complete game solve or nearly one.

I don't feel like my reads form a specific "This specific pairing is the scumteam" combo.

That sort of thing doesn't belong in minis or micros, really.

[Cabd]

GTH D1 Reads

{GiF, DGB, Kate}
{Dunn}
{Wheme, Cabd, Lukewarm, Titus}
{Manatee, Marci}
{Kyouko}

This one?

I think my opinions on players is fairly obvious, his bottom 3 are all above my touchie line...

[Cabd]

58 calls in 6 hours. What the fuck is this workday.

[Cabd]

I'm around.

Moving from this chair will prove hard, given somebody broke league and managed to perma-exhaust me.

[Cabd]

More like that time the dude figured out how to edit the config file and have both smite and flash with zero cooldowns.

[Cabd]

Dunn, GIF
SSBM, Manatee, LLD
Wheme, Cabd, Marci, Luke
---------------GAP-------------
DGB, S_S

Wow. I can feel the rule breaker between my ribs.

[Cabd]

Although actually given ovaltine that list makes no sense.

[Cabd]

We are never going to tell you not to research someone.

Do you think there’s a scum on the 5 person Titus wagon? If so, who?

If there was it would be lukewarm. But Idk hes also null for me.

Titus 5 Dunnstral, Lady Lambdadelta, Lukewarm,

Cabd

, WhemeStar

VOTE: Cabd

IDGI....

[Cabd]

Dunn, GIF
SSBM, Manatee, LLD
Wheme, Cabd, Marci, Luke
---------------GAP-------------
DGB, S_S

Wow. I can feel the rule breaker between my ribs.

I'd love for you to do stuff that makes us feel better about your alignment.

I'd love to be doing stuff that made you feel better about my alignment, but here we are in the reality universe not bizzaro world.

I'm just waiting for the "big fancy words reads snap into place" moment to hit and to get on with our lives (however short they may be this game)

[Cabd]

I don't know if I've ever seen someone not named Cabd or ffery do a non-firsthand meta dive and actually come away with useful info.

So going through SS's recent games I have found a new hard town read!

The fucking timing though.

[Cabd]

Titus, pretend I quoted the Kate read and said "spicy, but why gut" or soemthing.

[Cabd]

Although actually given ovaltine that list makes no sense.

?

Katniss should be at the top or the bottom, putting him null is... odd, given the ovaltine decoder ring handed to you.

[Cabd]

Unwnd has a natural fetish for hating mech semi-clears. You were in the same recently finished mini theme that I was....

I don't find it anything other than unwnd-alt-sniffing-indicative.

[Cabd]

Placement in tiers is strongest left to right

{Marci, LLD}
{Kate, Dunn, Gif}
{Uwnd, Ssbm, Manatee}
~Line of touch-ability~
{DGB, Wheme, Luke}
{Toog}


I am something like this. Time to break out the sad trombone?

This still more or less where you are at?

Uhhhhh, mostlysortakindaish although placement within tiers probably shifted.

Toogus aside, if anything wheme down and unwnd down, luke and SSBM up...

Something like this?

{Marci, LLD, Kate}
{Ssbm, Dunn, Gif}
{Manatee, Luke}
~Line of touch-ability~
{DGB, S_S (unwnd)}
{Wheme}

I get that DGB has a valid dreaming god crumb but I'm not sure that's alignment indicative for it.

Aside from Wheme our lines are drawn in the same place.

What leads you to have unwnd in the touchable section?

You know I had anticipated you'd ask this and had a kickass metaphor to deploy at my ready and then kiddo decided I'm a jingle gym and it went out to the corner store for milk to never return.

[Cabd]

I think that getting into a fight with somebody due to potentially non game related reasons fits perfectly well into hot headed unwnd scum potential given the past.

I think dismissing the interaction is impossible to come from scum is extremely lazy.

I don't have a major reason to town read the slot and the town ship is out of life vests.

Same reason why cephtd and Annie ended up in my scum list last time. Or flea in yggdra. I could go on.

[Cabd]

Why compare a third party game too my scum game though?

You could win with either scum team. You were sort of a super-traitor.

I know you said you didn't realize what your wincon meant, but we're looking from the outside and can't take that statement completely at face value.

Sorry for late reply but I figured I needed to reply to this

Do you think I played that game any way near you would have played that role? I was playing for survival which meant I had to play as a town member.

Given i made the same post but one psot earlier, imma answer too:

You played incorrectly, as if scum gets eliminated but you live, you still lost.

You played generic third party when your role told you to play as agent of chaos, bringer of every dirty trick in the book to mess town up and draw out town PRs.

[Cabd]

Can we also talk about tenet just to stoke my ego?

[Cabd]

Luke as well as most of this game had my back against the wall at some point in bloodstained!

I think I will call FGO my good game.

You can count that newbie where I shot you.

[Cabd]

Maybe if we all think hard enough marci will appear in the game.

RNJESUS is cruel.

[Cabd]

Uhhh.

UNVOTE:

I forgot it was still there.

[Cabd]

Uhhh.

UNVOTE:

I forgot it was still there.

That said, I might tip hands too much if I do so. But eh whatever if I saw it and Dunn saw it so did mafia prolly.

Hang on.

[Cabd]

I mean.

Too many cooks. Kitchens. Day stagnant.

Do you think we shouldn't?

[Cabd]

Of all the times to be mobile.

But uh tldr. Did you not see the too many crumbs from unwnd early Ffery? I was trying to get around it but bandaid off.

[Cabd]

Lmfao my timing sucks.

[Cabd]

He softed dayvig a few times in a somewhat serious way and there are too many killing claims and softs.

[Cabd]

REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH

Mood.

[Cabd]

Oh lol I only say two of those three. Oops. Dunn wins this round.

[Cabd]

So did everyone other than Fferysci see it and they're just losers?

[Cabd]

Jesus fuck.

[Cabd]

Cabd? You ok?

I am. Dimitri's odds of surviving this map are not.

[Cabd]

It means I'm playing fire emblem with penguin because it's date night.

[Cabd]

I'm guessing katniss really doesn't want to be on the other side.

[Cabd]

My vote is binary claim of killer or no. And then further claims only under hammer intent.

[Cabd]

My vote is binary claim of killer or no. And then further claims only under hammer intent.

Same, but I want to register concern that s_s's posts have been kinda dodgy feeling.

It's in the book of known things, my dude-ett.

[Cabd]

I knew that a long time ago yes.

I get it. Promise.

[Cabd]

My guess at this point is we're gonna get Isekai'd into Inception-esque second layer.

With stuff flowing somehow between layers....

It's also 1am and i'm stuck in a cage and rambling but hey./

[Cabd]

...wait a second. Gif what year did your source material air?

[Cabd]

By all means claim your year if it'll make you happier.

[Cabd]

Okay 2001 means false alarm disregard my excited screeching

[Cabd]

Y’all are never gonna guess ours :3

The Hero is Overpowered but Overly Cautious

Wait that got an anime I thought it was only a novel

[Cabd]

How far did it go? Because the novels got SUPER meta eventually.

[Cabd]

Oh yeah so only the first set of worlds then.

Oh well.

Novels are worth a hoot although they get formulaic like any other. At least they don't randomly go introducing time traveling aged up children characters..... Looking at you, smartphone and dungeon master.

[Cabd]

tbf I lost all hope when I saw one of the title being “I hit max level by only killing slimes” or some shit

YOU TAKE THAT BACK THAT FAMILY IS ADORABLE

[Cabd]

Tag yourself I'm Pondeli

[Cabd]

My kingdom for them animating the spinoff Demon Minister series.

[Cabd]

Tag yourself I'm Pondeli

I'm Laika and you know I'm Laika, lol

Something something touch thy horns something something. What's good for the blue is good for the red.

...It's 2AM wtf I'm home from the cage and going the fuck to sleep. Peace.

[Cabd]

I am awake for all of my sins.

This might actually be the game to try out that tool I've been working on I'm going to try to find time tonight to run it and we'll see what the results are.

[Cabd]

Do you have thoughts on SSBM's idea of letting a random townie die via manatee's ability tomorrow if voted out/dead players don't flip?

I feel like Dunn's quote of the mafia wincon was a giant neon banner of truth, so, uh, yeah, fucking not doing that.

[Cabd]

Gif, once again, DGB is using "it" not "she/her".

Other things when not working.

[Cabd]

Watch out Manatee, you might get hood flashbacks here...

[Cabd]

Watch out Manatee, you might get hood flashbacks here...

as in im abt 2 get cased?

Nah, as in ffery be serving tea again.

[Cabd]

I'm wondering if our Caitlin E bait's meta has expanded this quickly, Notsci.

[Cabd]

I'm wondering if our Caitlin E bait's meta has expanded this quickly, Notsci.

Ask spayhalf for the decoder wheel to the above, if you dare.

[Cabd]

I'm wondering if our Caitlin E bait's meta has expanded this quickly, Notsci.

Ask spayhalf for the decoder wheel to the above, if you dare.

Oh wow actually you were IN that fakegod game and cupcake kicked your ass lmfao.

[Cabd]

Oh shit, we swapped the polonium tea for polonium mountain dew.

[Cabd]

And guess fucking what, it's code red this time.

(Taco bell stopped bottling baja :/)

[Cabd]

Code red is better anyways

VOTE: Notsci head of kate bishop only

[Cabd]

I find myself in the very weird position where I get to a summary well before Kate does but then I find myself second-guessing medical questions right when they decide to turn and burn like it's the last few hundred feet of a cross country race.

I'm not even sure how to describe this feeling.

[Cabd]

Voice to text butchered that quite hard I guess I'll have to fix it and clarify when I make it home

[Cabd]

A new Challenger approaches.

[Cabd]

Shit posting aside I will make up my mind this evening I suppose.

[Cabd]

I have come to the unsatisfying conclusion that S_S is not a player for which statistical analysis is very valid.

I've been dying to use this (extremely alpha but it's a thing!) tool. And it broke out ALL the data crunching to give me...... "S_S posts slightly longer posts as scum, and talks slightly more about other players directly by name as scum."

[Cabd]

So it does. ALPHA after all? Adding that to the "stop words" to be ignored...

Here's this game to compare btw...

[Cabd]

I need a bigger baseline for true data comparison (two games each in coney island is what I used for the above) but i was hoping for a divine revelation, blah.

[Cabd]

I'm:

1: Distraught my tool didn't useful
and
2: Really think we're letting wheme off the hook
but
3: Absolutely don't mind voting there.

[Cabd]

Also I took two sleeping pills and they're starting to work.

Trying to get back on cycle after data center last evening.

[Cabd]

I make no promises for further post cohesiveness until tomorrow.

[Cabd]

2: Really think we're letting wheme off the hook

Is this something you expressed previously?

I believe I have but if not, I was thinking it VERY LOUDLY.

[Cabd]

I wonder if this feeling is what non insomniacs feel every night. Jealous.

I was gonna tool whene but days load takes a bit and currently in bed about to pass out thanks.unisom

[Cabd]

Greetings, I am here on lunch hour for a few.

Ffery, I believe you wanted to pick up where my post left off?

Shoot.

[Cabd]

My wheme read is "I have looked at exactly zero of your homework as a lazy sod, but something feels off the same way it did in cephgame."

As far as S_S, I was hoping to get more data there but since the tool didn't reveal anything too fancy I can say that he's still well south of null and I'd vote there. Unwnd's constant softs not softs etc are damning for me, following the logic Dunn put out. And S_S is no dannfloor as far as my opinions.

Questions about app are fine, but it's on my home PC and I'm not on home, so no asking for your horroscope.

[Cabd]

"Didn't get the sense you agree" is good, means I was maintaining a neutral face.

Oh, and unrelated but happy Katniss is here again.

Firebringer is about to bring some pain.

[Cabd]

Gamma, I'm town.

You need to do a better job sticking to your values, then.

How is DGB not sticking to values?

DGB’s thing about scum taking forever to make good fake claims. Were DGB town I’d have expected it to hound Toog about his partial claim until he nailed something down.

Fun fact: ~I~ quoted that famous line here!

[Cabd]

Also fwiw Menalque stepped away from the site for a while as he realized his anger and burnout wasn't mentally healthy.

Keyfabe or not, dude was just ANGRY.

[Cabd]

Tool takes literally HOURS to load the data without overtaxing the hampster that runs the site and ruining everyone's night.

I only had time for one person last evening.


I'm using posts from three games of each alignment of the same player list size, and then i have a filter that allows it to ignore posts that contain quotes.

[Cabd]

Spoiler: Tool Stuff!

There's effectively three components to the tool. The first one scrapes each post by a user in the given thread using PowerBI's "web" connector. This runs very slow because if you don't make it run very slow you overwhelm the server.

The second step is to export that data, HTML/BBCODE tags and all, to a .csv file that you keep appending to for each alignment per player.

The third step is to import that using the "CSV/TEXT" connector in PowerBI again, running the "HTML TAG STRIP" function, and then making conditional columns and counting statements to generate meta data. The visuals I post are the ones using this third steps' data.

[Cabd]

Also this app, is it open to the public or what

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downloa ... x?id=58494

[Cabd]

P.S sorry for bribing up RC cabd and making the comparison

was there some Cabd/RC beef I never heard of?

Yes, but I'd prefer it not be a topic of conversation this game. Sorry not sorry.

[Cabd]

Also hi I'm eating dinner.

The food tell of the day is "poached salmon in maple soy broth with gnocchi"

[Cabd]

and talks slightly more about other players directly by name as scum.

I'm not sure that this is what the data shows. It looks like the sample size might be small enough that a few games where he was against the similar players skewed one side of the results.

To revisit this, I was right, but this game is an outlier regardless:

This method scans each non-quote-containing post for a mention of anyone on the player roster from the sourced game...



I'm not gonna continue but leaving this unanswered felt wrong!~

[Cabd]

It means that SS is playing this game uniquely and that I should stop looking for tea leaves and just giddy up and vote him... Probably.

[Cabd]

I still wonder if this thread had enough SS posts for meaningful pattern-matching.

Oh well.

I was gonna apply it to unwind as well actually but I think this experiment is dead for now.

So what does your map of your south of null look like? Where are the gaps?

[Cabd]

VOTE: S_S


I think it's time to just pick a wagon here. Nothing good comes of me waxing poetic about my thoughts on wheme any more. My stances are known.

[Cabd]

Why have one bitter utter failure when you can have two, right?

No votes, this is MYLIM.

I'd like everyone to address why they votes who they voted.

P-edit: I was wondering if you'd try to get ahead of me here. Just one go at me in bloodstained wasn't enough, eh?

[Cabd]

You mean like, say, Manatee lass not having killed Titus and therefore CLEARLY HAVING LIED and us getting a bonus elim on the proven liar?

[Cabd]

What flip are you talking about?


Titus had ZERO abilities that would explain the way in which she wouldn't have died day one according to that data, and those green flips made it fairly obvious the scum team is in the killing roles. My only regret is not following LLD onto you instead of following whoever "Accusation from Beyond" is, presumably S_S.

[Cabd]

huge, huge huge TENET vibes.

Bullshit.

You really are salivating over getting to do it twice aren't you?

[Cabd]

I had something incredibly toxic typed up.... I'm gonna NOT post that and instead get back to work for a bit. Treat me as crossed.

[Cabd]

2181 and now.
Blood and now.

[Cabd]

This is the only path you could take though, a song and a dance about how evil I am because ooooh tenet boogyman.

I'd have just shot you in the face and been over with it and you KNOW it.

[Cabd]

This is the only path you could take though, a song and a dance about how evil I am because ooooh tenet boogyman.

I'd have just shot you in the face and been over with it and you KNOW it.

No I don't. You always save my kill for late in the game.

I hate this.

This is ENTIRELY incorrect and you know it's incorrect, I call bullshit.

You know full well that as scum I kill you the night BEFORE you start waking up, and I'm supposed to believe that YOU believe I don't think you'd re-evaluate and hone in on me with laser focus in 8P MYLIM? Fuck no, you planned this out. And this is gonna end up like that one game where I played with penguin where I knew she was scum but they limmed me instead, isn't it?

[Cabd]

It should be extremely obvious now that I'm Jibril, and I know that all humans from my franchise (read: Sora and Shiro) in the game are town.

I only hinted it six hundred different ways and it's why i got confirmation from marci that she was Shiro.

[Cabd]

This is going to be a BEAST of a game.

Greetings, not-so-gentle-beings.

Firebringer, when the Hydra was born.

Hi Notsci, I'm the thing that tolls.

Imagine making a general crumb instead of some super meta abstract art bullshit in this playerlist lmfao.

LLD CAN I PLEASE VOTE MARCISTAR

the sky has opened up and told me this is a sign..
why r u so excited to vote me?

Cute flat lass? Fluffy?

That's a lot to read into a maybe, Cabd.

I've only had this read for five minutes.

But if anything ever happened to her, I'd kill everyone in this room, and then myself.

[Cabd]

Bell, as servant beast in FGO II, had a role that he knew servant shielder was town and passively bodygaurded them.

I'm not QUITE the same, but the info part is there.

[Cabd]

I won't ask you to move past it.

I will ask for an actual CASE of the reasoning behind the scum reads on you, the proceed to dunk them all into the

Mantle

of the earth using

Coulomb's Force.

Also this one was an outright flavor claim.

[Cabd]

So all this means is that you were planning this from day 1, whether town or scum.

Yes, I was planning this from my role PM hitting my inbox onwards.

[Cabd]

Especially given how poorly IMO Bell played it I intended to do it RIGHT.