mini theme 2229: MBOS 13 schweppes' pulpy potions daya 5

[NorwegianboyEE]

A good hydra should either play up the strenghts of each other or fill out the parts that are lacking in the other.
Or be extremely meme-able.
Unfortunately i’m not familiar with Retti so i can’t rank your compatibility.

[NorwegianboyEE]

LOCK TOWN never touch
Norwee

Why do you townread me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Was that the hammer?

[NorwegianboyEE]

We have 2 pain, and 1 doctor.

Is that potion distribution more likely to come from town or scum?
(Assuming it’s legitimate)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Fairy Circle who is your strongest scumread and why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

3. Norwee's gut

No plz, i will feel bad if the town ((

(But if they are scum i’m taking all the credit)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Man where’s Emperor at.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I love that Emperor guy and if they ever die i am going to feel very sad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina IS town though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not terribly eager to vote Titus again. I already explained why i think they are more likely town here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Titus
Green cap LOCKTOWN

Like they weren't before...

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll read Newbie 2035 i guess.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Okay then maybe you'll listen to them saying what I was saying.

Lis...ten...?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I know not of this concept you call listen.

[NorwegianboyEE]

OMG so i just noticed this.

So in Newbie 2035 Titus was SCUM and made the following two posts:

Hello!

Just going off a gut feeling here,
VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
This is an incredibly reliable method of decision and he is absolutely 100% scum.

Only a scum deals in absolutes.
VOTE: TheDuke

Isn't only scum an absolute?

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

his/her being newbie doesn't mean that she/he has to be the townie! he/she can a newbie scum too, right? how do you reach the conclusion of his/her being townie here?

Their tone in their 3 posts so far have been very town. Newb!scum doesn't have the pre-necessitated skills to fake the type of content they've made, they just don't.
It's true that if i was scum i would know everyone's alignment beforehand. But calling out someone that could easily be elimination bait later on as town if i'm scum would be contrary to my wincon if i was mafia.

Not if you knew I wouldn't let you get away with denying his towniness.

And in this game Titus makes the following two posts:

My ingredients are sugar and spice, and everything nice.

We can't have nice things.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

My ingredients are sugar and spice, and everything nice.

We can't have nice things.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

why are you making an rvs vote at this point?

Mechanics talk doesn't break us out of RVS.

Notice how they follow the EXACT same pattern of: "Awkward vote on to me because i'm fucking around, followed with an strangely serious reply that makes it seem like they genuinely want to vote me off."

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also: "Not if you knew I wouldn't let you get away with denying his towniness." is the worlds most hilarious line from scum ever.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Dwlee
Only if you promise on the condition of Titus flipping scum, that henceforth Meta shall be referred to as exclusively "good".

[NorwegianboyEE]

Which will you surrender? You pride? Or the possibility that the flip you crave shall be lost to you when it is so close within your grasp?
Let the games commence.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not giving you my vote then.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You were THIS close to getting it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Am I playing anti win con or are you

I'm still voting someone i scumread so i do not believe so.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Would i perform actions that up the stakes of the game for my own amusement? Absolutely.
Depends on whether you consider this anti-wincon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The three of them are locktowning each other based on spacious reasoning. They don't interact organically.

Where have i locktowned either of Dwlee/T3?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you’re going to bring up blatant lies then that doesn’t make me feel better about your slot just sayin.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean i’ve specifically had T3 and Dwlee in my PoE. So for Titus to say that we’re locktowning each other just seems like an desperate shade to save their own skin.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Titus/Fairy Circle/x?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Fairy and Titus have both done weird "LOOK AT ME IM DEFENDING" defenses but never actually attempted to stop each other's wagons. [not s/s]

I actually find it a bit scummy from them both that they seem to be mostly ignoring the other and their wagon.
Why would it not be S/S because they don’t try to directly hard defend each other?

[NorwegianboyEE]

The three of them are locktowning each other based on spacious reasoning. They don't interact organically.

[citation needed]

-Retti

For example,

NorwegianboyEE: The three of us aren't locktowning each other.
Also NorwegianboyEE: My PoE includes none of them. Titus is there though.

T3: We aren't hard defending each other.
Also T3: Puts me as lock scum for my reads.

Previously,

NorwegianboyEE: Dwlee, your read on Titus has no reason just tunneling.
Dwlee: So what?
NorwegianboyEE: That's ok you'll see Titus as town.

Later:

NoweiganboyEE: It's Titus and Fairy Circle.

---

This is scum trying to chain us and/or vig me.

I’m sorry that i didn’t respond well to your scummy garbage?

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Titus
Don’t really care if they town or scum. They just need to go.
Feels like a decent chance they scum though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That is not how Titus towns tho

She can't back away from her solvr

I find this to be an possible explanation for their behaviour.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The Senate will sleep on this after getting the door

NorwegianBoy's outside trying to sell me Touhou games. I already told him I only play Lego Stars Wars: The Complete Saga, but he's fairly insistent

Touhou can be any game you want it to be.
It’s not just an game, it’s an way of life.
I’ve played Pokemon games that replaces pokemons with Touhou girls and you make them fight each other.
The possibilities are ENDLESS!

Buy now and you’ll get an bulk discount on the introductory package of 25%

24.99$

22.49$!!!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Don’t expose my scheme.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They could both be scum?
Also reminder that Bingle wagon also fizzled out at E-1. Does that mean both are scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

That was an awkward post.
What i meant to say is:
Fairy and Titus could both be scum and hence the awkward defenses of each other and Titus saying we need to eliminate in their pool because the alternative is also bad for them.
And Bingle was E-1 together with FC so does that necesarilly mean both HAVE to be scum just because some scum player didn’t hammer? I do not think so.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Although to be fair, it could be like all Bingle/FC/Titus since they are all in my PoE. But that seems a bit unlikely given i still am sussing other slots to an lower or higher extent.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I like the theory that me and Titus would be bussing, but Titus isn’t very good at bussing.
Nomination mafia shows that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ngl feeling real apathetic right now.

Yeah you screwed up real bad with that: "Dwlee/T3/Norwee are locktowning each other" line.
Let it stand for the record that scum!Titus was caught today. And that line sealed their fate.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes, all the people that vote you are scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You are the paragon of towniness and you’re almighty solve was correct.
Fuck, you’re so good at this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Titus:
"Let me complain about the setup being overly scumsided to show how townie i am."

[NorwegianboyEE]

He woreded it badly.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What about mastina for shoot pool?

No.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee are you voting Titus?

Yes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

With pride might i add.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hammer then.
We’ve got 3 hours.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I forgot it was plurality…

[NorwegianboyEE]

I swear to god, if we let scum!Titus get away because "sCuM!tItUs pLaYs bEtTeR tHaN tHiS" i’m going to scream.

[NorwegianboyEE]

if i hear meta again im gonna scream.

meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta
meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta
meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta
meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta
meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta

[NorwegianboyEE]

They respond by calling you scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did anyone else feel an sudden uncontrollable urge to buy some Schweppes after playing in this game?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't know what Schweppes are.

It's an brand of sodas and drink mixes to put in your gin.

[NorwegianboyEE]

can you explain why you think norwee is scum? did I miss you explaining that before?

- lilith

It's scattered between a few posts. TLDR is I don't like their reactions, I don't like their pushes, and their stances have been questionable at the minimum.

So basically you have nothing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You just don't like my playstyle and equate: personal dislike= scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I certainly did not read your spoilered wallpost.

In fact i never have done in any game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But why should i care?
If you can't summarize it then it's probably not an very good case to begin with.

[NorwegianboyEE]

100% loss rate? Well GG. Just end the game then Schadd. Clearly scum won. It’s pointless to move on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Good riddance.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Titus town scum are probably in the slots white knighting her after these scumposts.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't remember norwee being toxic before I left Ms. This must be the darkest timeline.

I always get overly hostile when there are slots that scumread me for dumb reasons.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina, Titus really deserved a lim there and I'm confused on how anyone got a townread out of what she was saying.

Zero regrets.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I see no reason to hide this. So i'm going to claim my action.
I targeted Mastina with an harmography potion because i thought scum might try to target them but i got no result. Nobody targeted Mastina last night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And you ESPECIALLY owe me above all because you knew that I said Titus was town here and didn't want that elimination.

We're eliminating Bingle today.

I don't feel like i "owe! you anything.
I voted Titus by my own voalition and they did a pretty good job at sounding scummy.
While i don't feel like Bingle would be the worst elimination ever i want to consider my options before i nilly dilly down an Bingle wagon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No kill tonight makes me think scum either has low pain potions or they are spreading them out arsonist style to kill multiple town in a single night.
If the second that would make Mastina slightly more sus because i'd expect scum to target there if they are town. Unless they have like really bad reads or something.
Why would scum not target Mastina?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If scum!Bingle would he target town!Mastina?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I see no reason to hide this. So i'm going to claim my action.
I targeted Mastina with an harmography potion because i thought scum might try to target them but i got no result. Nobody targeted Mastina last night.

Did you get no result or did you get that no one harmed mastina?

The second

[NorwegianboyEE]

Look at the resistance bingle got

Yup. Resistance. Like when I hit E-1 because mastina said I scumclaimed and then didn’t explain why for literally days. You know, the scum claim that literally no one but mastina thinks was a scum claim. Like the continued unwillingness to eliminate me on the basis of “he’s too town to be town” that everyone clearly sees. Like dwlee calling out something he thinks is a town slip from me and then immediately blindsheeping mastina to vote me.

But there was absolutely no resistance when a wagon sprang up on you, despite the sun total of your first five days of thread contribution being “Momcinda has these reads but she’s also unavailable and I can’t explain her reads.” That’s why we ended yesterday with a plurality lim on Titus.

Ok Bingle is town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Idk maybe I'm fourth scumming here cause I also pushed Titus but I feel like RCE is a good lim here probably.

VOTE: RCEnigma

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hear me out on this one.
It's a bit tinfoily but i seriously think it's good.

Ok so yesterday was Town!Titus shitting up the thread and me shitting on them in return. I now know this 100% to be the case.

So RCE posts this:

I don't remember norwee being toxic before I left Ms. This must be the darkest timeline.

This seems to be an mindset of RCE knowing the alignment of both me and Titus. Because he thinks i'm being toxic. This is an stance i typically see from scum when two town are tunneling. Scum wants to take the middle ground and look reasonable and also chastise the slots that are being "toxic" instead of taking an actual stance.
If he really though me and Titus was TvT yesterday why didn't he do something to stop the tunneling? Instead of doing something to solve the game he was just doing this and letting everything take it's course. Which is an scum mindset.

i guess there is a third line where Scum!Titus goes this hard on town as an anti associative link for the wifom but that feels super low yield and it has already stretched far too long to make it like a fallback fingers crossed option.

Here you can see RCE just keeping the current momentum going despite having an official stance of voting Fairy and "thinking Titus is likely town"

only time ive ever been scum with Titus was Boon Wars I think. Well I was informed traitor and Titus shot me n1...which is as good a buss as you can get I think.

This is also subtly encouraging and Titus wagon by lightly scumreading them despite the contradictory "Norwegian is being toxic" stance earlier that suggests he knows me and Titus town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

RCE was "townreading" Titus. But not in reality and he felt just fine seeing an Titus wagon go through. Which fits my image of how scum would play in yesterdays atmosphere.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This makes me trust Dwlee more for treating Titus like how i'd expect town too. Where Titus blatantly lied and looked very scummy despite being town. But town wouldn't know they was town, however scum would.
So scum was being a lot more malicious and creepy yesterday like RCE. While town like Dwlee just acted with justice and righteousness and smited Titus to oblivion with no regrets.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Limit probably scum too. Not sure about third yet but i'll think about it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It could maybe be T3. Titus could be right about least 1 scum in their solve.
If i remove Dwlee from the PoE that seems to be the natural next conclusion, unless if i were to reconcider Mastina or something. But that seems very unlikely.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I've given Fairy Circle a fair thought and their hydra dissonance seems pretty genuine so i wanna lift them to like, light townread. So that leaves: RCE/Limit/T3 for the solve?
If i'm wrong about someone it could be Fairy Circle and they were the towndriven wagon yesterday. But something tells me this was more likely TvT competing wagons and scum either chose and picked between two whatever wagons or stayed out alltogether.

Titus (4): Dwlee99, Fairy Circle, NorwegianboyEE, Green Cap Boys
Fairy Circle (3): RCEnigma, mastina, Bingle
The Limit Does Not Exist (1): The Emperor
T3 (1): Titus

not voting (2): The Limit Does Not Exist, T3

So maybe all 3 scum had competing opinions to distance? T3 chose to scumread Titus, RCE chose to scumread Fairy Circle, Limit chose to vote nobody.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like RCE is an better vote today than Bingle.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Another note of curiousity that's impacting my current reads. Why was the Lillith head in the Limit hydra townreading me early day 1? Lillith is a slot that has scumread town!me in every single game i've played with them and seemed really adamant about not trusting me too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yet here they just quickly townread me with no hassle whatsoever. I find it odd.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Think that's all that was on my mind.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Point is, she dug her own grave.

For the record, blaming the town that you played a large part in eliminating for being the sole cause of their elimination is fucking disgusting and all of you doing this (it's not just you, T3; Norwee and Dwlee ALSO did it) should be ashamed. YOU fucked up by not reading her right. Is Titus blameless? No. She, objectively, made some bad plays, with her reads, reasons, and roleclaim, and that mishandling of things means she wasn't above reproach altogether. But she wasn't unreadable and she wasn't posting as scum by virtue of her having flipped town so taking zero accountability for it and blaming her exclusively for it is fucking disgusting.

I don't see the need to apologize when that time can be better spent hunting the remaining scum. They played scummy and thus i saw them as more scummy than the actual scum. That's all there is to it. I even thought they might have been town at one point but they misplaced that trust i put in them by continuing to scumread me for dumb reasons. I refuse to take some kind of high responsibility for this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

T3 and Norwee both plugged their ears so there isn't much to sway the scale there and I realized that when you norwee were purposely antagonizing Titus instead of engaging with her in good faith.

All my toxicity is for what it's worth. In response to what i find unfair treatment.
Titus claimed me/T3/Dwlee were locktowning each other, that's when i stopped showing respect because it was such an blatant lie that i didn't see anything they said after that as anything but scum trolling.

[NorwegianboyEE]

(Btw in case it was unclear; I used the watch potion on Green Cap Boys. Nobody used a pain potion on them last night.)

Odd. So it appears either scum isn't trying to kill any of the most nightkill baity players at all or they aren't using pain potions.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Or they knew that those were likely targets.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I probably should have checked Emperor. That was an bad call.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I really don't know what you're planning but i'm not complaining Mastina.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway your case for me is flawed in that I was very adamant in pushing FC near deadline. So to frame it as allowing momentum to keep flowing into Titus is disingenuous at best.

I can't be an obstacle and not an obstacle at the same time.

Your avatar turning evil says otherwise.

[NorwegianboyEE]

:(

[NorwegianboyEE]

My avatar symbolizes my inner child.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Which scumteam do you think has the most reason to have holstered on pain potions and/or targeted players that aren't nightkill-baity?

The one led by Bingle, or the one without Bingle?

It's not like it has to be Bingle just because we know GCB and you weren't target last night.
Maybe me, Emperor and Dwlee all got poisoned and we checked wrong because scum assumed Mastina/GCB would be bad targets for night 1.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I thought you said yesterday that Titus was likely scum with the slots defending her since it would contradict your argument but I can't find it so maybe it was someone else.

You did claim it was one of the slots WK'ing Titus so you have consistency I guess. It doesn't make the case good though.

Ok? I don't remember what i said.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I agree that none of town should ever use pain potions for what it's worth.
It just turns every slot into an mini vig, and vigs are usually bad shots so it's likely always going to end up in an wild west shootout that favours scums win condition like 99% of the time. And even if scum get's hit they need to get hit another time with the pain potion.
We're better of relying on eliminations.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So at least one of these slots is town, as I certainly don’t think scum is going around pain potioning each other. which makes mastina’s solve literally impossible.

Or scum is playing 100 IQ.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I for one, think this game is great and appreciate everyone around here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sorry to Titus, but nothing personal. I just get harsh when i think they are scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norwee, if you want to talk about stuff I’ll make an effort.

- lilith

You could address what i said about you in post 1637/1638

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not sure if I still believe that but that’s what I thought at the time.

How so?

[NorwegianboyEE]

So you no longer townread me for the reasons you claimed to have had is what you're saying?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t even remember being in any other games with you

- lilith

Maybe it was just Osuka's FIA and that left an impression on me.
I searched up your name on my posted-in topics and only Osuka and this game came up.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who are you voting today and is it RCE?

[NorwegianboyEE]

That attitude sucks.
If you're not going to vote an scumread then you're holding town back.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Let's have it be an hypothetical scenario then.

You imagine yourself to be confirmed town. You place your vote. Who is it?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Then who are your not-townreads?

[NorwegianboyEE]

gcb, emp, t3, dwlee, rce

I obviously disagree on Emperor and Dwlee. T3 and RCE i agree on.
GCB is like half paranoid-they-could-be-scum-deepwolfing, half locktown. Which is kinda contradictory but Datisi has that effect on me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't see why we can't make RCE happen today. Your elimination isn't locked in by any means Limit. So your pessimist and defeatist attitude feels super strange to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's actually illegal to not townread me on my birthday sorry

Spoiler:

[NorwegianboyEE]

GCB is like half paranoid-they-could-be-scum-deepwolfing, half locktown. Which is kinda contradictory but Datisi has that effect on me.

the only time you played with scum!me, i had an awful scumgame and you were scumreading me the whole time, tf are you on about

-D

But you are usually pretty good so why would one bad game of yours mean it should be simple to catch you as scum every single time?

[NorwegianboyEE]

can you talk to me about emp read?

- lilith

They just ooze town in every post they make? Idk, they seem like such an good boi.

Oh wait, i meant to say:
An very magnificent and terror inducing emperor that i am very glad is on our side, the Republic

[NorwegianboyEE]

i guess my question is moreso how do you know that

Your reputation of course. In almost every game we play we get some dudez saying you're terrifying as scum so obviously i'm going to take that as advice to keep an extra eye on you even if you seem town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe you're easy to catch for me. Maybe it was a fluke. I sincerely don't know yet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway, vote RCE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

what happened to your suspicions on our slot?

- lilith

I was ascertaining whether there was an willingness on your part to vote RCE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i guess my question is moreso how do you know that

Your reputation of course. In almost every game we play we get some dudez saying you're terrifying as scum so obviously i'm going to take that as advice to keep an extra eye on you even if you seem town.

at first i was gonna call bullshit, but then i actually remembered that one of the games we recently played in together, there was a fight about "is it too early to townread datisi" and "omg guys i will literally never townread datisi" (bless you innocentvillager) so there is precedent, my bad carry on

-D

Why would that be bullshit even if there wasn't an game to have as precedent? It's clearly true.

[NorwegianboyEE]

now this is where s_s would say "but datisi! why would scum!norwee like about his thoughts on your scumgame in the first place? that's not a lie that furthers his wincon and nobody as scum would lie about something like that other than maybe you!" to which my reply is shut up

If i said i liked Oranges but in reality i despise them then clearly ​i must be scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

RCE and T3 prob scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does Norwee's underage waifu think RCE is actualy scummy or just PoE?

What d’you think?

[NorwegianboyEE]

For now on I will refer to you as "Norwee's underage waifu"

Omg. T3 has started using Master suppression techniques.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nooooo, Emperor!!!

[NorwegianboyEE]

What if the scum is T3/Bingle/RCE?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like T3/RCE could be scum but the third one is hard. Both Fairy Circle, Limit and Bingle feel kinda townie in parts. But it also seems unlikely the last scum would be elsewhere.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does Norwee's underage waifu think RCE is actualy scummy or just PoE?

What d’you think?

No.

No to what?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does Norwee's underage waifu think RCE is actualy scummy or just PoE?

What d’you think?

No.

No to what?

RCE is leantown. I don't find him scummy.

Do you have any specific reason to believe that or is it just what you think?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is this where Titus would say: "Omg T3 and RCE are locktowning each other"

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, I realized who would be my most likely scumpartner in this setup and it's funny enough that I'm going to share it regardless of the fact that it's probably going to make Norwee lockscum me.

Why would you suggesting Mastina to be a possible scum partner make me lockscum you?
As in, why do you think i would do that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

For Divide and Conquer flashbacks?

[NorwegianboyEE]

For the record, if you flipped scum i wouldn’t believe you were alligned with Mastina for a second.
And that’s not based on anything you’ve said.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Time to meta the metagame of that particular metagaming individual, by which i mean the meta… of their meta.
I love meta.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is it just me or does this game feel really dead and tired.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If there's scum in the voting block it's probably Fairy Circle.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have decided to stop trusting Norwee's town reads.

Fine by me.
I honestly don’t even like it when most slots agree with me. Harder to solve that way.
Just makes me prone to bias, and also worried if scum are pocketing me when my solve sucks.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pile on the pressure and tough situations and i’ll manage.
Have nothing be happening and i just stare blankly into the sky i guess?

[NorwegianboyEE]

*Shrug*
Should i just sheep Mastina on their Bingle read?
Anything to make the game more exciting!

[NorwegianboyEE]

So my whole reason for existence was to just wait for Emperor to return but since he's being replaced can we just kill someone omg.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who you gonna kill?
SCUMBUTTERS!

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm wondering how many fail eliminations we actually get before game over.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Logging on to this game today i have like no idea what i'm doing to be completely honest so i really need some more hard info from an flip anywhere.
Who is the elusive scum? Dunno really. And in a game with 3 that is very worrying. Everyone sounds sorta town in one way or another.
So what to do, sheep Mastina?
Maybe, why not.
Bingle feels town to me personally but what else is the alternative? I feel like Mastina would make really good analysis's normally but all they talk about is "flip Bingle or Limit" and raging at the elimination yesterday so that just makes me want to flip either Bingle or Limit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll wait to see but probably pick one of the two depending on what's going on. If nothing happens i'll just vote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Okay then let's vote emperor or do something. Game is stalled and I don't agree with your premise that mastina has to be town here

Do you have an theory on scum!Mastina?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Objectively, I'm probably the best town elimination today.

Not sure if saying WIFOM to sound town as scum or if actually honestly thinking this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It prob sounds like WIFOM in my mind cus i’ve done the EXACT thing as mafia.

"UwU Oh yeah, i would totally be an good elimination here. But why would i openly say that if i was scum? Aren’t i an townie nugget? (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧"

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Bingle

[NorwegianboyEE]

How about RCE?

Nobody is voting RCE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m bored.
Why won’t you entertain me you constructs placed in this game for my own amusement!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe i should poke Datisi with a stick.
It’s funny when i say something that makes him mad and starts to scumread me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But like. Nobody other than me/you/T3 was voting RCE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean me/you/FC

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum in this game isn’t trying to kill us with poison. But with boredom.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also gut tells me that if FC happens to be scum, Dwlee might be as well.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can kinda see what Mastina is saying now. But it took some time to translate it internally within myself to really understand what they were saying.
I get thr vibe that Bingle is playing very reactively and trying to do exactly what is required to avoid the lim. Rather than solving for real and of their own voalition.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like them pushing FC harder now, when put on pressure.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I get the vibe that Bingle is playing very reactively and trying to do exactly what is required to avoid the lim. Rather than solving for real and of their own volition.

Fixed spelling errors.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will now recite the mandatory speech.
Dear scummer. Has it really been two, five or ten years? If not, please disregard this message and get back to solving. Distribute token of appreciation and applaud.
*Clap clap*

[NorwegianboyEE]

I get thr vibe that Bingle is playing very reactively and trying to do exactly what is required to avoid the lim. Rather than solving for real and of their own voalition.

Not what I'm doing, not what mastina's claiming I'm scum for, and not a scumtell for me, but this is the kind of thing that makes Norwee's reaction to me a town one compared to Momflea's.

If you make Mastina doubt herself i’ll consider voting FC.
Part of the reason why i’m voting you is because Mastina has given no signal that she doesn’t 100% believe you are scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ll do some research myself later to see if this is similar to scum!Bingle in their other games. But i’m happy sheeping Mastina for now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bingle might just be another MBOS Mathblade.
But the alliance always wins in the end.

[NorwegianboyEE]

How about you CONVINCE me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Don’t belittle me >:(

[NorwegianboyEE]

He hates reads lists. Let’s kill him.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Where is Mastina anyway.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is getting really confusing.
Everyone is like, scumreading an different set of 3 people.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Btw i don’t know if this has been brought up earlier. But if you have healing potions it might be wise to use them on slots that are likely nightkill targets for scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Means scum needs to waste more poison on the widely townread slots or kill scummy slots that would be more easier to use as mislim bait.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My guess is RCE and maybe one or two in Limit/Fairy hydras.
In fact i might just vote RCE again.
VOTE: RCEnigma

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m trying to consider if there is scum that’s deepwolfing in any of GCB/Emperor,Mastina, but i just can’t. I feel they are town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like most of my scumreads suck but i also have nothing else. Which is not ideal but that’s the truth.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I still like RCE for scum though, which is why i’m gonna vote there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Meta already left you and is now with someone else.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee how do you hyperpost so much
Tech me your ways

Idk
It just comes naturally to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes let's just kill an slot that's still needing replacement and can't even defend themselves that sounds like an great idea.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Reads Datisi, reads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I too can appreciate more anime.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Limit is scum I'll consider sheeping you

And likewise, if Mastina is flipped and is revealed to be mafia.
I’ll sheep you on voting Mastina.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nobody else tho

[NorwegianboyEE]

I already don't think norwees reason for pushing me is very good and mostly just hangs on me defending a slot they thought was surefire scum. But I think the real reason it bugs me is that the impression is my scumplay would be to softball a fake read on Titus to tie me there when she was an easily pushable slot and then to death tunnel for two days straight.

Scum wouldn’t want to push an easily pushable slot too hard because they know it’s flipping town and want to look good for tommorow. Which fits what you did.
I think it was TMI’ing that you knew it was town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina is different because they acted genuinely mad that we flipped town!Titus. Which feels a lot more genuine than your lame reaction.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe you’re so bored and the game is a slog because you can’t scum hunt yourself.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Three kills ready but noone target Mastina/GCB?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes. That’s literally what i did.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Absolutely done with this game. Since everyone has checked in, I’m assuming all pain potions have been claimed already if used. We harmographied Bingle and can confirm Fairy Circle pain potioned him. So at least one of these slots is town, as I certainly don’t think scum is going around pain potioning each other. which makes mastina’s solve literally impossible.

- lilith

Lilith's claim. Prior to lilith's claim, with some reasonable assumptions:

Town would not lie.
Bingle did not pain Bingle, and in fact had claimed no potions the day before.
Mastina vote on Bingle -> Mastina did not heal Bingle.
FC claimed a pain on Bingle.
T3 pained Limit
Dwlee vote on Bingle -> Dwlee did not heal Bingle.
Norwee harmo'd mastina
RCE pained FC
Emporer did not pain
GCB - didn't bother checking because one degree of freedom couldn't introduce risk.

So unless GCB had both pained and healed me, unless I was healed limit could be reasonably sure I was pained exactly once. The only way I was healed was if it was done by GCB, which wouldn't catch limit in a lie, or if scum did it. IF limit is scum here, they knew that their claim of only you having pained me was a safe one to make before they made it. This is not evidence that limit is scum, btw, just evidence that townreading limit on the basis of the Harmo result is blegh.

As to why limit would out the info? It gives them a reasonable-ish action to have taken N1. It's only potentially clearing if one of us flips scum, and as I know I won't and I appear likely to flip before you (And did at the time of lilith's claim) it's completely unlikely to be clearing in any case.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ah fun. So I feel like it's reasonable to think scum all used pain potions if they had one. Do you agree?

Not necesarilly.
I think the distribution and amount of pain potions/other potions + the scum teams situation heavily impact their strategy.
I don’t know what it is, but i enough to assume that it’s probably not so simple as "they all pain".

[NorwegianboyEE]

They might even go no pain for night 1 just to make town use their harmo. And then use it later.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Dwlee forgetting that i harmo’d Mastina might be slight town indicative ish…?
Because scum!him would pay more attention to things like that if his team used poison on targets last night?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina said Datisi has had reasons for being busy that’s outside of this game so i’m inclined to believe it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You + Norwee

What? Are you saying i’m not doing anything?

[NorwegianboyEE]

How possible is FC/RCE/Limit team?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe Limit/RCE/Emperor if FC doesn’t fit?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What? Are you saying i’m not doing anything?

Yes

-S

Ok.
VOTE: Limit

[NorwegianboyEE]

Contrary to what Limit would have you believe. Scum is finally doing domething.
As in, he voted me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Or town was and you’re trying to reverse that by casting doubt on me/T3 and now GCB.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah.
Is this the first time you’ve played with me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Cus you’re acting like it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

*Shocked emoji*
Norwee is impulsive guys!!?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is that scum guys????!!!!??

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes. You sound scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

kill us before we actually start to effort

You were about to effort?
Are you saying i somehow used brainpower to process that i’d better kill you fast because you were apparently about to effort?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes. You sound scummy.

Okay, why

What is my scum motivation for posting literally anything I've posted today

-S

Well i dunno. You just sound like you’re trying to say a lot of meaningless things and bring out lots of shade and it’s like ok… what are you even doing? What’s your point? And you keep bringing up the deepwolf narrative which is also worrying.
Not to mention your arguments just SOUND scummy. Like they’re straight from the scum textbook. Maybe i’m just dumb but that’s why i voted you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol you don't get to play the "have you played with me before" card and then say this. I don't play scum at all like a regular person, and you should know that? Wasn't I scum against you in IV's game?

No idea.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Were you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Okay well regardless Norwee. Irrespective of what you think scum me would do here, what do you think TOWN me would do here? You don't think I would feel that scum control the game when nobody has been able to get wagons anywhere and nobody can agree and we are the top wagon?

-S

Why wouldn’t it also mean that it’s hard to get an lim because the mafia don’t vote each other? If all scum was in a townblock it should be pretty easy to reach consensus on an weaker mislimmable town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Were you?

I was.

-S

Now if only i remembered the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sure you can make the argument that I could fake disengagement, because I have done that before as scum, but calling it scummy feels pretty insane.

I resonate with this. As i just received an packaged RPG from Japan that i’ve been nerding out over the entirety of my free time until now when i’m going to bed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The word lying comes to mind.

Oh what a 1000 IQ play! I know, I'll tell them Norwee has no content even though I know it isn't true. They'll never suspect a thing!

Come off it.

-S

I agree. Thinking you’re scum for that is silly.
I just didn’t like your general tone cus it felt fake ish. Do you usually get emotional and angry as scum btw?