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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:47 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 192, Andresvmb wrote:How do you TMI your Scum Partner this early? And how is a typo (“mob” instead of “mod”) actually a clue for a Traitor in any reasonable context? What is this thought process?
This is not my current view on Alice, but as you're catching up:
You can TMI your partner this early by latching on to something insignificant that they did and scumreading them for it.

The context was "our mob" instead of "our mod" - "our" being the operative word. Implies he is a part of the mob, aka the mafia - hence, traitor crumb.

Sounds like there may not be a traitor though, waiting for confirmation from Jolyene.
In post 194, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 72, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Margot didnt actually repeat your joke, so this feels like working backwards from Margot being scum.
They didn’t directly repeat the “joke”, but they both called me Scum (or otherwise implied it) for plainly stating that I am Town. Isn’t that the point? That’s what this is talking about right?
it didnt seem to me that it was the same thing. Similar, but not the same, and taking and calling it the same pinged me. Did they feel the same to you?

Pedit: looks like jolyene wrapped that up.

Who all is in a neighborhood?

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:49 pm
by Jolyne
I already said, unlikely to be a traitor.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:49 pm
by Kazyan
In post 198, Kazyan wrote:The more I think about Dwlee and read reactions to them, the more confused I get

I'm weirded out by Dwlee making observations that I agree with, but they're still not towning in my eyes, and I don't know what to think about Kyo being in the crossfire of this. Kyo looks town to me even if I think she's extrapolating too far off of so little data, so, like. It is scummy to acknowledge the townie? To argue? I'm sure Dwlee would have had
something
to say about the content instead of 'yup that's town' if the scumteam was Alice/Dwlee, so, that's probably not the scumteam?
Seriously, if anyone is missing a take on Dwlee/Kyo/Alice right now, please provide it so we can sort this.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:50 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
Yeah, saw it in preview, hence the pedit

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:50 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
Idk if I've said it yet but dwlee is town so far

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:50 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 200, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You can TMI your partner this early by latching on to something insignificant that they did and scumreading them for it.
What? Hahaha I’m sorry but I just disagree. Why is this not just standard Scum trying to make a mountain out of a molehill to justify a bad read? It’s the TMI part of your argument I’m getting totally stuck on. If there’s 2 Scum, my instinct tells me that they’re not doing what you’re looking for here.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:52 pm
by Kazyan
In post 200, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Who all is in a neighborhood?
There's no daychat, so I'm not sure Neighborhoods can even exist, unless there's some kinda Night Neighbor role.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:52 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 205, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 200, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You can TMI your partner this early by latching on to something insignificant that they did and scumreading them for it.
What? Hahaha I’m sorry but I just disagree. Why is this not just standard Scum trying to make a mountain out of a molehill to justify a bad read? It’s the TMI part of your argument I’m getting totally stuck on. If there’s 2 Scum, my instinct tells me that they’re not doing what you’re looking for here.
I didnt know there were 2 scum when I made that post

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:53 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 207, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 205, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 200, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You can TMI your partner this early by latching on to something insignificant that they did and scumreading them for it.
What? Hahaha I’m sorry but I just disagree. Why is this not just standard Scum trying to make a mountain out of a molehill to justify a bad read? It’s the TMI part of your argument I’m getting totally stuck on. If there’s 2 Scum, my instinct tells me that they’re not doing what you’re looking for here.
I didnt know there were 2 scum when I made that post
Okay but assume this has the standard 3 then. I still don’t think Scum’s first instinct is to blow up their Partner by highlighting something small they did. I just… don’t get why that’s your first instinct.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:54 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 200, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:it didnt seem to me that it was the same thing. Similar, but not the same, and taking and calling it the same pinged me. Did they feel the same to you?
The end read and push were the same so yeah, I did basically take it as the same. I don’t know why that would seem such an unreasonable way of summarizing the posts highlighting my entrance.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:57 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 208, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 207, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 205, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 200, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You can TMI your partner this early by latching on to something insignificant that they did and scumreading them for it.
What? Hahaha I’m sorry but I just disagree. Why is this not just standard Scum trying to make a mountain out of a molehill to justify a bad read? It’s the TMI part of your argument I’m getting totally stuck on. If there’s 2 Scum, my instinct tells me that they’re not doing what you’re looking for here.
I didnt know there were 2 scum when I made that post
Okay but assume this has the standard 3 then. I still don’t think Scum’s first instinct is to blow up their Partner by highlighting something small they did. I just… don’t get why that’s your first instinct.
Because Alice's reasoning to sus Margot looked fake, and Margot's entrance looked scummy. 2 SRs, one sussing the other for what looks like a fake reason, hence it's a TMI

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:57 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
Same and similar are not the same words. They're similar, but not the same.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:59 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 210, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 208, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 207, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 205, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 200, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You can TMI your partner this early by latching on to something insignificant that they did and scumreading them for it.
What? Hahaha I’m sorry but I just disagree. Why is this not just standard Scum trying to make a mountain out of a molehill to justify a bad read? It’s the TMI part of your argument I’m getting totally stuck on. If there’s 2 Scum, my instinct tells me that they’re not doing what you’re looking for here.
I didnt know there were 2 scum when I made that post
Okay but assume this has the standard 3 then. I still don’t think Scum’s first instinct is to blow up their Partner by highlighting something small they did. I just… don’t get why that’s your first instinct.
Because Alice's reasoning to sus Margot looked fake, and Margot's entrance looked scummy. 2 SRs, one sussing the other for what looks like a fake reason, hence it's a TMI
Okay I mean haha I don’t think you’ve caught the two Scum here so, yeah no.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:59 pm
by Dwlee99
The point about town thoughts is just that it's exactly the sort of thing I would expect town to post. It's latching onto something to solve the game and Kyo seems to believe in it which are both +town. Scum typically have trouble faking something that seems that townie in thought process and I have experience with Kyo that makes me think she doesn't post that sort of thing as scum

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:03 pm
by Andresvmb
Here’s where I’m struggling DW. Sure, perhaps it’s a Town thought process. No issue there. But you put no effort into understanding what the hell was even being said. And from my humble perspective, it reads somewhat outlandish. It’s out there. Writing down that a typo (which really is the simplest explanation since someone else immediately interpreted it that way before the clarification came) was actually a Traitor crumb is a
real
stretch. But you didn’t even acknowledge that. It’s just bizarre to me.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:04 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 43, Nathann wrote:
In post 39, geraintm wrote:anyone know if our mob does this sort of thing on a regular basis?
Who's the "our mob"?
In post 44, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Our moderator
In post 45, geraintm wrote:
In post 43, Nathann wrote:
In post 39, geraintm wrote:anyone know if our mob does this sort of thing on a regular basis?
Who's the "our mob"?
yes, moderator, sorry typed too quickly. like, i know what an innocent child is but a day zero one i've not seen before. it is unusual enough that i wondered if the moderator was known for weird roles
In fact, Kyouko did! I mean, what?!

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:05 pm
by Andresvmb
I’m so confused.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:05 pm
by Dwlee99
The first paragraph is what I was specifically calling out there. The second one is just outlandish but sort of NAI.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:06 pm
by Dwlee99
Like do you think the second paragraph is scummy? Weird, sure, but it isn't scummy. And the first paragraph just screams good thought process so I vibe with it.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:11 pm
by Jolyne
I'm shielding Kyouko and Dwlee for today

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:11 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 218, Dwlee99 wrote:Like do you think the second paragraph is scummy? Weird, sure, but it isn't scummy. And the first paragraph just screams good thought process so I vibe with it.
I’m having a hard time believing you here. You think the second paragraph, which transparently follows from the conclusion in the first paragraph, is weird but not Scummy, but think the first paragraph is a good Town thought process? And all this after you didn’t make any specific distinction between the two paragraphs when you first made a comment on the post?

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:12 pm
by Andresvmb
And no I don’t think the second paragraph is necessarily Scummy. But I don’t think any of it is remotely correct hahaha

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:14 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 67, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:and that Jolyene's clue about scum shitting themselves implies jolyene knows something that jo thinks that scum also know, like maybe a special kind of traitor.
Tell me how this is helpful to the Town. If I picked this out, in that I thought the IC is hinting at something that might be useful later, but not stating it directly, then why clarify it without asking first? You’ll also notice that from some commentary that came in later, that it’s just wrong.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:15 pm
by Andresvmb
The only thing you could maybe agree with is that Alice was TMI’ing their Partner. And like I’ve already stated, I don’t understand why that’s the first conclusión someone arrives at.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:17 pm
by Dwlee99
I literally don't care if her thoughts are correct for reading her. It's the way she is reaching conclusions that is townie.