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[Gamma Emerald]

Looks like we were asked for flavour for our check twice and I think I missed seeing the answer (though Nancy did answer our pokemon flavour) - our delayed cop check is Future Sight.

This was what I theorized jsyk

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Titus
I targeted Milobird
Yes it was stupid, but it’s the same problem I had in FGO 2 where bad game focus led to a bad night action

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Did she evolve last night or the night before?

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Did she evolve last night or the night before?

End of D2 compulsive when I did not hit E-3.

Okay then you’re right that it should have been received

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And the plan was for both KTT and Titus to target Milobird
Titus’ action couldn’t have been stopped but KTT’s could have
So...Milobird? Where’s the splash?

[Gamma Emerald]

Damn it gammma


Alofoqbdhdhhs

I lost a thread with milobird due to the rolestop

Come on bro

I know I'm fucking stupid
I was disengaged and thus not paying full attention to the mechanic impact of my decisions

[Gamma Emerald]

@Mod: if Firebringer's power was used to target a godfather, would he have succeeded in neighbourizing them, or failed to do so?

Succeed. The "appears as" refers to how the target would be seen to a cop.

:/
pretty sure generally cop is the

only

role GF is meant to fool

[Gamma Emerald]

welp at least I didn't fuck that up
that means the mod has made errors regarding my role twice >:/

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@Bird No Titus sent you the thing you received
I'm just pretty sure the mod forgot to remember Titus was unblockable and my action was flagged as getting in the way
So whilst KTT is unfortunately not conftown and might not be able to ever we at least have you and Titus conftown

And yeah we might be able to just PoE this shit

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I v much wanna know wtf koba is doing rn but I'm not really suspecting them, I honestly voted them to start today because I felt like a fuckup for not targeting FB (doubly so now that I got in the way of conf'ing KTT)

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey guys, guess what.
I WAS HIT
by a car.
In the rear.

Haha, classic.

-Bell

hope you're okay
idk what the circumstances were but you can't get much dumber than running into active traffic on a notoriously hazardous street

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: dwlee

Back to this

Mastina vote Dwelee, thanks.

How about we

don't

vote the player who I think is so conftown that if someone claimed a guilty on them I'd vote the person claiming the guilty?

Dwlee's my strongest townread.

Dwlee/Koba/Wheme?

Good luck with this solve

Just remember to kill TIL after I flip cause I don't accept the redirect scenario as a possibility and don't believe we have a cop + loyal neighborizer + grave robber + multiple rolestoppers

That's stronger than FFXIV already

this is also role madness you [?$$!] fool

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oh

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Anyone notice how Koba has gone totally MIA here lmao

yes
but why did they do it, is the question

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this is also role madness you [?$$!] fool

What do you think scum has that would make this balanced

Like, do you actually think 3 rolestoppers + loyal neighborizer + cop + grave robbing is the setup

p sure the loyal neighborizer is one shot, look at the wording in the flip

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the mafia have a flipped roleblocker and pseudo-backup
I think just from that they have reasonable tools to counter town power

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unless wisdom's chart is wrong, she's friendly neighbor, which is a town role
I don't see milobird refuting the chart and they have the message in question, so if titus (and/or wisdom?) is fudging they should have been able to tell

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this is also role madness you [?$$!] fool

What do you think scum has that would make this balanced

Like, do you actually think 3 rolestoppers + loyal neighborizer + cop + grave robbing is the setup

This reminds me of MathBlade scum in Calculasia so hard lmao.

mathblade would also post that sort of thing as town, see mini 2238

[Gamma Emerald]

wait critter, were you in calculasia?

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there's literally been pages of content.

and yes i didnt go on firebringer *as promised* as i thought they were not useful at all.

Your evaluation was maybe correct but it still would've been nice to keep the clearly town slot alive

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I just need clarification if I need to claim more of my role here because i see mention of a rolestop that shouldnt be happening that isn't me - its in my role's best interest not to claim much of it until I flip or until certain conditions are met.

it was me more than likely
you prob don't need to claim anything more

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DkKoba did you target mastina N1 or evolve N1 or both?

?? you can't target people when evolving so no, I only evolved.

if evolution is an active ability this is true
passive evolution I think can happen the same night an active ability is used?

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Nancy, can you investigate imaginality tonight?

I'd much prefer critter get checked if he's going to continue pushing obvtown slots

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oh right lol

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You know what, fuck this, y'all ain't worth my mental health and it ain't worth making y'all uncomfortable

I hope to play with you again in better circumstances then o7

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Are you saying you swapped alignments N2?

~chowchow

it looks like you're saying the first flip determined your evolution?

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Didn’t wheme claim Legendary?

I don’t think legendaries can evolve and I’ve already said I evolved once

They can but that’s Gen 7

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Nah Koba
I’m town, but I been busy af hence the hydra and then shit happened to K
And i feel bad for K but I know why he can’t play. If cards were reversed i would be the same.
I’ll try to town hard Bc im not gonna be miselim

I’ve had y’all as town since D1 p much

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh meh on Skrew being Critter. Critter's town.

Well the check is in already, there was a good chunk of people suspecting skrew, and critter has continually gone after me/mastina/Nancy which is all-the-nope.

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I think I get you here

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Critter I know who you are with like 95% certainty and you’re probably town but for the love of god you need to listen to consensus on me/mastina/Nancy

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We got an inno on

Critter

Mathblade

-Truth

PEdit - Oh?

I’d already figured out critter was math and he was town, but it’s good to have it out there for sure

[Gamma Emerald]

HHAHA the leading scum must have targeted me ...

SO

I SELF TARGETED N2

my full ability:

nonconsecutive delayed rolestopper

essentially:
anyone who visits my target(i can self target) will be roleblocked the next night!

i self targeted night 2 - expecting to die or at least be visited by a scum

So you can act again tonight? In that case probably best you target TIL: even if they get killed the scum won’t be able to use that player to kill the next night

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I don’t trust gamma.

Gamma ducked me out of a Pt with Notty

I am a very sad kitty

I’M SORRY I SUCK AT MECH
I did the same dumbass shit in FGO 2 and it really stung when I flipped and had my alt revealed and everyone saw how much of a fuckup I was

[Gamma Emerald]

you refusing to talk to Peta actually worked out lol

Yeah ik
I still could have set Luke up with a PT with someone, and didn’t because I didn’t pay attention to the usage period

[Gamma Emerald]

HHAHA the leading scum must have targeted me ...
SO
I SELF TARGETED N2
my full ability:
nonconsecutive delayed rolestopper
essentially:
anyone who visits my target(i can self target) will be roleblocked the next night!
i self targeted night 2 - expecting to die or at least be visited by a scum

Uh.

I kinda doubt you stopped the scum kill, DKKoba, considering I rolestopped you N2.
If your rolestop on yourself is delayed until N3, I'm

pretty

sure that it should've failed due to me rolestopping you N2 and you self-targeting.

I'd trust whoever Gamma rolestopped to be conftown, no offense.

Well I targeted TIL so no paranoia should ever fall there at least

[Gamma Emerald]

I jailed pooky.

Pooky was not visited by anyone either

You mean you also watch who you're jailkeeping?

Yes

So uhhh...unless Gamma's rolestopped target was the scum's nightkill...

...Isn't that like, evidence Pooky's just scum here?

VOTE: Pookythemagicalbear

I think it might still be a guilty as do we think scum tried to kill TIL despite very probable protection?

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma @mastina who are your valid targets? We can setup a chain that makes it impossible for scum to target us without causing a no kill at some point

Mastina only had the one shot, RIP
I can target anyone that isn’t TIL tonight
Wheme can probably jailkeep TIL tonight and I rolestop Wheme

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pooky was the nightkill target

p sure this isn't possible

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poliwag line might be a thing? idk if it'd be included but one of its evo paths (politoed) is gen 2

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actually it would probably just start as politoed given what my flavor is

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tbh I think massclaim rlly does make sense in this scenario
we have a MASSIVE numbers advantage, scum can't kill enough of us here to get out of the situation they're in

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actually it would probably just start as politoed given what my flavor is

oh? you started as evolved?

yup

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it didn't really process until just now that I started as my fully evolved form because it's the only part of my line that fits into the gen 2/3 space

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I'm a line that's kinda both
I'm probably giving it away by doing this but hey, riddles are fun, and I don't see any tactical advantage to staying hushed about my flavor

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there's one thing that actually bothers the hell out of me
mastina, why'd you target dkkoba and only out that fact this day phase? Beforehand it seemed like you were good to hold your shot n2, why'd you use it?

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Let’s not worry about “could be GF” until 1 scum remains I think
Either we flip the GF or it’s the last 1 remaining atp

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Though she might be the gf so

And she still hasnt claimed what she did last night btw

Well, Gamma is off the charts super obvtown and I don’t understand the STD sr either.

Maybe Titus and Imaginality are distancing?

How’d I get brought up

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I fucking hate how actually reading the rules is met with disdain
I’m not great at it myself but I actually respect people for doing that because it keeps the rest of us honest

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Man idk why would imaginitly claim like that they have no reason too

Because they’re possibly gambiting that we believe their detective role that targeted rolestopped milo on n2 and hasn’t used their second shot yet?

I don’t like that they keep pushing near confitown. The mind numbing amount of absurdity and sheer disbelief required to think that out of 5 players Cakez suggested, that Pooky who has hardclaimed co-vig with Cakez, which no one has CC’d, with a no bussing meta, vigs his pr buddy with one scum already down is simply mind boggling.

~I

did cakez list out what his suggestions were?

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chowchow you bring a unique sense of joy to this game no other slot can bring

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how would a GF appear to your role? That's like, the only reason I'd even consider keeping you alive here for role reasons
milobird was a fucking stupid target. they were blindingly obvtown.

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and I get that's rich coming from me but like, I at least made a choice that was somewhat well-informed by reads, I just bumbled into the middle of an existing plan.

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what are we waiting on, if anything

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Still good to preserve conftown

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another vig or something?

Vig is completely mad if so

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i hard defended dwlee but i ended up reeevalling onto them EoD on a day we yeeted a townie in an organic way cakez.

maybe you should please learn that wrong=/=scum


i'm prone to pockets like the rest of us.
people get pocketed by me all the time for instance -> but in the long term i was able to reeval onto the right option.

also i targeted math last night as suggested.a

God fucking damnit
I ALSO TARGETED MATH BECAUSE I DIDNT KNOW WHAT YOU WERE DOING

[Gamma Emerald]

HAVE FUN DYING YALL

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It's far from my first choice but Gamma isn't mech cleared.

I think I’ve fucked up playing my role so bad I have to be town atp

[Gamma Emerald]

Milobird (notscience + Bell) I’ve seen their role pm
Save The Dragons town by play
Wisdom
Gamma Emerald Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume) town by play
Titus The Goat- confirmed FN targeted us N2
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
mastina
Malakittens Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens) hardclear from math
PookyTheMagicalBear Ralts shot scum N1
SirCakez cleared by katniss
DkKoba Thestatusquo
MathBlade Critter Valkyrie Dimension SleepyKrew cleared by TIL

So the hard clears are Me, Titus, Cakes, and Mala
Likely cleared by role Pooky

Everyone else is still PoE

Yo Math, I got a proposal for you. You wanna do a Versus series game, you as town stump, me as scum stump? It’d probably be after I mod for Nancy and Taly tho

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VOTE: Wisdom
Did someone say hammer?

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Huh. Notty’s posting rn, right?

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Okay so THAT theory is straight out the window
(This is a VERY random aside FYI)

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GJ notty

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Well...
If notty didn’t quick hammer, the game never reaches this stage

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I just think it’s comical they were the game losing miselim after silencing the one person who could have made the game much easier

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There’s a part of me that’s bitter but I’m kinda trying to be positive in my own way

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I pretty rarely go for the double tap
Only real instance I can recall is trying to handle speculated vig!Bell in FFXIV

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Ngl I probably would have voted Milo out of loss of patience at some point
I detest endgame because I’m just not equipped to deal with the level of content people like to swing with in it and so I’m more likely to shut my brain off to it
Which is why I like the approach of “everything posted in endgame is irrelevant”

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Who cares? It's over and done with all we can do is do better next time there's no point beating people with sticks about it and acting all holier than thou

I may not have the

best

attitude but I at least ID’d the irony of how things went down and can kinda stomach the result a bit better because of that

[Gamma Emerald]

NOW I'M FURIOUS
had I known CSF was Ralts I probably would have been waaaay more sus of him proclaiming to have good read rate on me