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Wisdom · Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:38 pm

In post 2554, Wisdom wrote:I asked her this because she voted OTH instead of rejoining the Juliet wagon when Wheme fizzed out

And then she only revoted Juliet after she had 9 votes, she had claimed, and multiple people had declared the claim changes nothing.

Namely, after she was doomed.

So how did she help catch Juliet exactly?

Wisdom · Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:41 pm

no worries, Pav is still today's lim.

Wisdom · Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:47 pm

Parity cop was amongst the only believable claims for having visited two targets. And I actually bought it, so it was effective.

Wisdom · Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:48 pm

Anyway DV is right. Your thoughts on Pav? Would you like to vote him?

Wisdom · Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:50 pm

You also didnt answer about OTH.

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:03 am

Why is it a fakeclaim? I do not get the OTH scumreads at all

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:48 am

In post 2557, Wisdom wrote:no worries, Pav is still today's lim.

you know, I said this, but actually

UNVOTE:

Why does scum Pav loverize a buddy and a townie instead of two townies?

At first I thought the loverizing happened after the guilty and then Pav would obviously have motivation to do that, but at night when Galron was still safe?

Isn't it better for a scum loverizer to tie two townies?

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:57 am

VOTE: dv

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:50 am

Have you read what my read on LLD is?

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:51 am

And the vanillize came from Icebox visiting GL

Youre not reading once again

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:10 am

Because i can have more than one scumreads and ive been scumreading dv and ceph for a while

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:33 am

Meaning?

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:35 am

How would he know that? It was before the guilty

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:01 am

Nah he had no eyes on him whatsoever. I just reread it.

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:05 am

No let me quote my position again

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:08 am

In post 2383, Wisdom wrote:b) The N1 vanillaization caused by visiting GuiltyLion also included an ascetization or a "you're immune to loverization" effect. This makes more sense because seeing as GuiltyLion is town, I find no reason to just punish Icebox for visiting him without adding in something beneficial. And those two being connected also makes sense seeing as we know the mod forgot about both of them until the pause.

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:10 am

To recap, the mod did not inform Icebox he had been vanillaized until the pause and did not break the loverization until the pause

So the two are 99.9% related

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:11 am

In post 1764, fferyllt wrote:
I have found an oversight that I need to resolve. I'm closing the thread while I work this out. I will add a day to the countdown clock when this is taken care of

Apologies for the closure! The thread won't reopen for at least 8 hours.

The "pause" is this, in case it was forgotten

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:19 am

@spiffeh

I am reading mountain dew dead pt and came across this

I'm kinda leaning scum on Dunn now because of how dedicated he is to addressing everyone that has an issue with him?

Like when I was scum reading him super hard in WH13 he did not give a fuck

Dont you think this holds true here too? Dunn was all "why are you voting me" to everyone voting him yesterday

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:00 am

They both happened on n1

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:07 am

The timeline again

- Icebox visits GL N1 and is vanillaized (The mod does not resolve it)
- Pav loverizes Icebox and Galron (The mod resolves it, they learn they're lovers at dawn)
- The mod pauses the game because she realizes the error, informs Icebox he was vanillaized N1, and cancels the loverization

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:08 am

Scum didnt do either if im right

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:10 am

Because its icebox's role

Its said in his role pm that he may lose his abilities if he visits a certain person

Thats why Im speculating that in addition to the vanillaizing he got protection from loverization (if not from everything that night)

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:14 am

In post 1729, Icebox wrote:I can visit 3 players. They said something may or may not happen when I do visit them.
They said there may be other aspects of my role I'm not aware of.
If I visit certain players, I could lose my abilities it says, but doesn't specify what that means.

I'm literally a question mark.

-Bell

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:16 am

Pagetop

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:02 am

In post 2602, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2598, Wisdom wrote:Because its icebox's role

Its said in his role pm that he may lose his abilities if he visits a certain person

Thats why Im speculating that in addition to the vanillaizing he got protection from loverization (if not from everything that night)
I feel like it would not need it be protection, just the opposite order of operations.

First, Pav loverized galron and icebox.

Then Icebox self vanillized when they visited gl, and instantly removed the lover ability pav just gave them.

That works too

Clearly starting with different assumptions that change does not help me think clearly

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:32 am

Gamma am I just wrong on you
I feel I owe lld a sheep or two

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:06 pm

In post 2613, Off The Hook wrote:I also can't recall rolling scum against you tho

Youre actually right, the only one I could find was a Jungle republic where you were ww and you replaced out early, before which I correctly scumread you

Wisdom · Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:33 pm

Any input from GL? What does he think about pav and dv now
Personally i feel like unvoting again

Wisdom · Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:11 am

Did you guys read what I said

Why does scum Pav loverize a buddy and a townie instead of two townies

Wisdom · Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:49 pm

Bell the back and forth you are seeing is because I began making conclusions based on assumptions that later changed (For example I was positive Pav loverized you after the guilty), and thus didnt think clearly about whether Pav's role actually makes him scum

Same went for my timeline of what happened to you

Wisdom · Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:45 pm

Agreed, conftown lld is best

Wisdom · Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:47 pm

In post 2681, Icebox wrote:Why are we letting OTH live.

Personally i feel theyve been town all game and the claim did nothing to change that

Wisdom · Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:22 pm

What?

Wisdom · Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:03 pm

What confirmed townie did LLD push?

Wisdom · Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:50 pm

Sorry I don't understand what you're saying but LLD could easily be scum here

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:46 am

16 hours left, still 2 votes needed to get a lim

Let's not leave it for the last second

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:10 am

Unofficial vc

DeasVail (5): Pavowski, Off The Hook, Wisdom, Lukewarm, Skybird
Off The Hook (5): Dunnstral, Child of Fairies, Lady Lambdadelta, Enchant, Icebox
Pavowski (2): DeasVail, Titus
Lady Lambdadelta (1): Bowser Jr.

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:04 am

In post 2712, Titus wrote:If the lim flipped scum, shoot Pav.

pretty sure dv and pav arent scum together for reasons Ive said but you do you

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:05 am

also titus. few hours left. vote dv.

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:06 am

12 and a half or something

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:08 am

Pav swap isnt happening because its unlikely he loverized his buddy instead of two townies

just vote dv and put him at e-1

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:08 am

and then we wait for bowser who also said hed vote dv

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:26 am

Why would he think galron was going down during n1

Nobody was suspecting him

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:47 am

@mod You missed two votes

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:30 am

Still, why not loverize icebox to another good townie and kill two birds with one stone

Also, why claim this action?

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:16 am

He isn't
If dv is town pav rejoins my pov

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:40 am

Thats what I thought too tbh

I feel like she overjustifies this vote while it should be simple

Wisdom · Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:21 am

Is it twilight or does dv need more votes

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:00 am

VOTE: cof

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:40 am

LLD is very likely scum yeah

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:42 am

Im not
Ill also probably claim today given i revealed my role to lld

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:03 am

How does it confirm you

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:04 am

Yea but how does it confirm you as town

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:06 am

Oh yeah forgot about oth's ability

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:07 am

I thought you were arguing your role made you conftown somehow and i couldnt wait to call bs
Why didnt you buy my potion

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:09 am

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:10 am

Have people been blocking me
Nobody has bought any potion

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:15 am

Yep so i was blocked

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:17 am

And im assuming its skybird who blocked me since she seems to think im scum
Probably thinks she blocked the kill

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:47 am

Titus cof is alive
And you still prefer pav?

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:50 am

If we don't get a claim of someone healing him will you vote him?

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:57 am

I can sell potions for 2 gold. I have
1) one that allows one post after death
2) one that lets you know if something targeted you (not who or what it was)
3) one that lets you voyeur someone
4) one that makes you earn double gold next day
5) one that lets you put a post restriction on someone

I offer two of the potions to one person and they can choose to buy one

N1 i offered 4 and 5 to Wheme, N2 I offered 1 and 3 to GL, N3 I offered 1 and 2 to LLD (was blocked)

Nobody bought anything. I was confident GL would buy 1 but given the hoods and whatnot looks like he didn't need it

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:09 am

Actually mine is just a post limit, not like bowser's

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:12 am

In post 2832, Titus wrote:
In post 2831, Wisdom wrote:Actually mine is just a post limit, not like bowser's

?

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:14 am

In post 2834, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 2825, Wisdom wrote:N1 i offered 4 and 5 to Wheme, N2 I offered 1 and 3 to GL, N3 I offered 1 and 2 to LLD (was blocked)
whys this convenient

What do you mean
LLD can confirm I would offer them to her, we had a hood yesterday where I claimed and she asked me to offer her #1
And GL can confirm too if hes still around via titus

Wisdom · Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:17 am

In post 2838, Titus wrote:
In post 2835, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2832, Titus wrote:
In post 2831, Wisdom wrote:Actually mine is just a post limit, not like bowser's

?
I have a cap of 75 posts because I succeeded in hooding GL. Your claim of giving these limitations is odd.

Separate things

Wisdom · Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:30 am

how about no

Wisdom · Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:44 am

I dont townread cof

Wisdom · Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:52 am

no way that whole thing is town

Wisdom · Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:32 pm

Cof + enchant finishes this

Wisdom · Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:05 pm

Did you read

Wisdom · Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:33 pm

In post 2927, Wisdom wrote:Cof + enchant finishes this

Wisdom · Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:55 am

VOTE: enchant

Wisdom · Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:57 am

yep I prefer Enchant

Wisdom · Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:44 am

why would pav die over the claimed fn

Wisdom · Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:45 am

still pav is random

Wisdom · Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:08 am

It's not just that, poe points towards you, Ceph was scummy, and youre refusing to play

Wisdom · Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:49 pm

But isnt lld conftown from your role?

Wisdom · Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:03 am

idk Bell is not as active as Id like

Wisdom · Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:28 pm

Wisdom · Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:19 pm

VOTE: cof

Wisdom · Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:21 pm

Does anyone want to buy a potion if this doesnt end the game

Wisdom · Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:35 pm

In post 3087, Pavowski wrote:Do you have the ability to sell a potion?

In post 2825, Wisdom wrote:I can sell potions for 2 gold. I have
1) one that allows one post after death
2) one that lets you know if something targeted you (not who or what it was)
3) one that lets you voyeur someone
4) one that makes you earn double gold next day
5) one that lets you put a post restriction on someone

I offer two of the potions to one person and they can choose to buy one

#1 and #2 are not available tonight

Wisdom · Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:37 pm

and voyeur = you target someone and you learn what actions targeted them

Wisdom · Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:57 am

In post 3457, Icebox wrote:Also, Wisdom is honorary scum. Just iso him this game, he was loving every second of his role.
I hated it when I was fake catching up. I kept having to delete posts hating on Wisdom because it would show I was lacking focus lol.
-Bell

um i totally played like id play as town

especially when nobody was buying anything so I figured I wouldnt be winning that way

Wisdom · Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:01 am

So good to be free of worrying of whether town will win an easy game this time though

Good job Bell

Thanks for modding ffery