Mini 2240: SCP UPick 2 (Day 8)

[SCP 999]

Wait did anyone whos not fully claim redirect any actions n1?

[SCP 999]

Actually no, doubtful. All dclass are accounted for

[SCP 999]

So, lets go over how my reads are formed vs iz slot:

My reads on:
Dwlee: town because spewed so from roden slip as well as being a counterwagon to scum. Also their lack of engagement has a genuine excuse so town viability remained despite them triggering one of their meta scumtells
Cakez: town - was early on pushing roden, and did not find excuses to hop off. Also roden interactions show roden wanted to have cakez mislimmed.
Zyla: townslipped and showed they did not receive a scum role pm with a fault mech assumption that was genuine. This is a strong enough reason to bin her as town.
T3/LLD - possible scum - but not with IZ, because they are never SvS after LLD tried to bury IZ d2. Mainly because the way LLD coasted after rhe vig shot was confirmed + proved they were paying attention to the game t3 i cannot read. Much lower chance of being scum than i initially believed on d2.
Cephrir: lockscum. This slot is possibly partnered with both t3 and IZ here - having pillowed interactions with both while flying hard under the radar. When put under pressure they crumbled and refused to engage under the pretense of anger/annoyance. Tried to defend roden and when confronted with the possibility of roden scum they said "could be" and contributed nothing during that push. Are also similarly to IZ only considering a select number of slots to even give thoughts on, which are shallow. Edit: adding that their d1 vote onto SM was incredibly suspicious when looking at their justification.
IZ: largely similar reasons as cephrir. This slot on d1 pushed to get the cop killed on claim alone. As well as with roden they even tried to save him - trying to claim the slip was not real, while offering nothing of value with their read on roden. Also they are caught in a couple logical contradictions regarding their claims and have no genuine progression - flipping their read on me from what seems like convenience amd cannot explain the thought process behind it other than citing 2 NAI posts for me.

Infinity reads:
T3: locktown cuz claim
cephrir: ???
Cakez: scum because ???
Dwlee: probably town who knows?
Zyla: scum because couldn have faked their slip
Me: scum because defending zyla? But now scum with cakez so ??? Also because i *could* be playing scum(vague)

[SCP 999]

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-529

[SCP 999]

Hi cakez what do you think of my view of the game atm, i.e. my reads list i have recently posted? Its a summary of the things ive said about others this dayphase mostly and where my heads at rn and id like to see where yours is

[SCP 999]

Basically just requesting a sanity check since im very engrossef in my reads atp

[SCP 999]

prefer to elim 999 today because eliming them is hard and will remain hard even if we flip zyla first, but i'm willing to move back to zyla if i have to

More like zyla is easier to mislim without me around

[SCP 999]

I really just want to flip Zyla I don't believe your "slip" is convincing
I think Ceph and IZ have reasons to be scum but so do you

Here's an exercise; instead of looking for scumminess, look for *townieness*

and then sort based on that.
This is how i sort and it was how i ended up pushing roden this game- so it works.
It is how i ended up nearly townsweeping in the last large nornal i played too.

[SCP 999]

Also was hoping for a more in depth response direcrly responding to more than just 1 point

[SCP 999]

T3 is koba right about you holy shit lol

The Koba push is literal garbage

I always lose WIM as conftown

I literally stated several times my read was based on LLD and not you ??

[SCP 999]

if zyla flips scum why do you think it will be hard to flip me cephrir? Thats such a bad thought process like you're just fake justifying voting me first

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Iike it feels like instead no matter who you push they will flip town and thus you need to remove the voice on the right track because yoh cannot during the night.

[SCP 999]

But why am i scummy?

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UNVOTE:
Lets have a conversation like adults ok?
Im tired of the childish nonsense and i want to explore every option thoroughly.

I see several people just floundering about and just twiddlimg their thumbs waiting for soemthing to happen and not bothering engaging questions asked or trying to solve the game.

Im literally the only one here.

Im starting to fucking tinfoil others because fuck how can soemone be this ignorant like theres no way that cephrir/infinity thinks its a viable path to push me over because as soon as i flip town, i get sheeped and town wins

[SCP 999]

you literallt have provided FUCK ALL in your own thought process Cephrir.
WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THAT?
you did 1 laying out of your thought orofessand it was all about your vote on d1.

You're being lazy (alignment neutral) - and your answer after i tell people includong you to stop being lazy is to be a child and omgus me.

Tell me - what the fuck would you think of your own posts if you were in my shoes - granted assume i am town.

[SCP 999]

Tldr grow the fuck up and communicate

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actually ive seen 8-10 year old mafia players when i was at summer camp communicate their thoughts processes on thwir scumreads better than most of you this game.

im fucking fed up wirh this difficult as fuck gamestate thats perpetrated by shitty townies letting who wont share their thoughts letting lazy scum blend in

[SCP 999]

Yeah i fucking am thinking you might be town here on a possible reeval Cephrir and i only was hesitant to do so because i didnt want to lose respect for you.
I have a theory based on the activities of 1 player this phase who has been very under the radar. And if you want to win you'll actually talk because all you're going to do if you dont afrer j get limmed is get limmed yourself and lose us this game

[SCP 999]

And fuck you if your response to this is to say im desperate scum trying to manipulate votes off me
You can say that once you stop being lazy

[SCP 999]

Maybe consider that as town its your job to not set up a situation where if you're wrong, the game is literally lost because you refused to consider a world you were wrong in and thus have no retrospective comments to go back to to prove you were just genuinely incorrect. My olive branch is to at least set you up to not die in that case if you're town



At least do me this much, you think LLD slot is town, LLD was sure on infinty- read through that slot alongside roden and tell us what you think there

As well as compare what their role claim is to their behavior throughout the game

I *am* approaching in good faith because as scum if i wanted to bad faith push I would not try to expand the info and give you a chance to towntell.

If im scum here with zyka im just digging my grave deeper regardless. And for the record i would have bussed zyla ages ago because why do i want to let my claim go to waste as not suspicuous not dying and not get towncred off a partner lim?

Like occams razor please.

[SCP 999]

Alright let me take out the request i think is less effort than trying to read my iso which is gigantic -> multiiso roden and infinity in old thread + read infinity keeping in mind their JOAT claim(1x tracker 1x rb 1x commuter)
That should be a smaller and more manageable task. I am very into this game and keeping up and willing to point to where to look thats easier to so you dont need to sift through
too much basically.


Also whatever you find suspicious about me action wise, plesse state it so I can lay out my thoughts on why i did said action - you'll find i will be able to easily flow there, whereas scum will struggle

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How certain are you that it isn't t3/IZ now koba? I fucking hate that t3 and IZ both seemed to be like "yea koba could be scum here" where I think they should know better, and I've seen LLD hard bus before. I don't want to tinfoil scum vig but a gambit might actually have made sense with t3 acting like this

lld hard bussing in a situation she is poised to be falsely cleared on claim makes sense.

I wish we saw the direction she took post roden flip tho that would have been useful.

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cephrir can you unvote before i say what i want to say please

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ok i was going to say i thought it could be dwlee + IZ and i was afraid of a quickhammer but i am actually smoothbrained because dwlee literally appealed to me to consolidate onto roden which is like Peak dumb to even consider scum



at this point i need a zyla replacement to full eval this gamestate.

atp - am mostly sure of IZ scum because of the lack of critical thought from the slot.

they're like floundering but not in the galron way - idk if anyone gets what i mean.



im honestly more lost than i began now and . yeah.

[SCP 999]

and actually - in retrospect there is a nightkill path for a scum dwlee that isnt terrible for them and that squashes that.

[SCP 999]

if your brilliant conclusion is that i'm teamed with koba or zyla i invite you to get your eyes checked

I was just spitting my thoughts on the game that I hadn't shared yet because I decided to switch the caginess off
there might actually be more but those were the main things that were pressing to mention imo because I've felt directionless wrt where scum is besides like those thoughts for a bit
This game feels way harder than pokemon battles because in that game I was blatantly wrong about multiple townreads and I got lucky that no one listened to me p much

-Gamma

feels hard but you are barely evaluating it!

curious!

[SCP 999]

im gonna scour some infinity games in closed setups let me take a look

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lmao @infinity the link to bending on your wiki page leads to a different game.

funnily enough that game has cephrir in it

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holy shit i actually did monster post in Bending.
but like thats 1 of 2 games where i top posted as scum, the other i was hyperposting becaues there was a global post limit + i was suicidal bc it had a soup mechanic that was necessary to win

[SCP 999]

what if its zyla and t3

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actually i need to reread the iso in bending to do a check for 1 more thing - but I may also need to crossreference a closed game where inf was scum as well that isnt metal game covers bc they got insta blasted there

[SCP 999]

also i c u are back to theythem inf

[SCP 999]

Subject: Mini Normal 2173 | Bending | Game Over

There's really no scum motivation for engaging with your scumreads. If you care about meta, I don't think scum!taylor can easily engage like this without it coming off faked. Even if not, I think taylor should be pretty obviously town by this point.

hey infinity listen to your past self if you're town

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that reminds of something I don't think I even discussed with Infinity which is I want T3 to fullclaim today
also can you link that game with the global post limit you were scum in

-Gamma

you're going to hate me but its on epicmafia

was tinyhunt hosted by petapan

[SCP 999]

there is a notable difference in infinity complexity in reads from bending to here (yes i know that game was last year but i needed it as a baseline on how infinity generally reacts to specific types of information - namely claims and the like, as in how they treated people claiming PRs.)

[SCP 999]

epicmafia as a website doesnt exist LMAO

.

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hell i was gonna even cheekily actually give the link that wont load anything but i can't even find that either i was scum with andante and this other person named sam

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except i clearly noticed something way off but the lines of logic line up accurately. also if you do flip town here i think i unlocked how to read you 100% from this point forward LMAO

[SCP 999]

For Reasons i am now extra interested in the zyla replacement

[SCP 999]

dwlee has correctly read me in pretty much all our recent completed games

you on the other hand: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=86610

no comment needed.

[SCP 999]

also yes im lurking. still waiting on replacement and dontt wanna flood thread more when i want others to interact with eachother rn.

[SCP 999]

the 2 times infinity caught me as scum it was an early read and never a late reeval so not sure why theyre so sure this time if town

[SCP 999]

honestly reading through the rpg game im wondering where all the depth is infinity - why are you lacking reasoning in any of your reads + why are you unconcerned wit hreading other people? in your completed town games i see you more often than not actually evaluating the table holistically and here im seeing you zoned in on very few slots

[SCP 999]

the 2 times infinity caught me as scum it was an early read and never a late reeval so not sure why theyre so sure this time if town

re-evaluating is hard and i don't feel like it, also you made many posts this phase i can't imagine from town!you

-infinity

can't imagine?

like what?

[SCP 999]

many implies 4+ so lets see em.

[SCP 999]

@dwlee can you give me hammer over infinity? i want to up the pressure here

[SCP 999]

post 682 hype

[SCP 999]

"later" seems to be the overarching theme of your play.

granted i figured out how to read you now because i understand you actually are incredibly good at matching reactions for the most part in terms of how you handle specific information between your scum and town games but the overall difference is your depth - which is pretty much overall everyone's main scumtell.


again like i offered before - i am able to *prove* im town because i can answer any question about my progression and it will be genuine.

You won't show me good faith or charatibility though - I have proven I tried to give charatibility via several avenues to question you on progression/thought process but you refuse to cooperate so im working with what i got.

[SCP 999]

man i saw that in my preview and i was so hard tempted to straight up hammer

[SCP 999]

I'm giving you easy tasks just like I provided to Cephrir.

And still you swat it aside like a spoiled child.

You're literally in a hydra and *both* of you are unable to contribute the way you normally do as town?

How would you feel about a hydra that was doing that?

[SCP 999]

Would you lean towards townreading or scumreading that hydra?

[SCP 999]

WAS SCUM BUT STILL THEY SAY

[SCP 999]

how are you gonna accuse me of not doing research when your slot is caught with their pants down not reading my posts as a whole tho

[SCP 999]

i normally have way less motivation as scum than i do now, especially in the last game, what makes you think im not town saying this?


and the fact i havent hammered you is answer to yours that you are assuming the wrong thing. you are getting a conversation because i still think your slot has town viability.

I know that town loses if i hammer you here and you flip town so im being *very fucking careful*

[SCP 999]

in the late game*

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brain worms

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im like so far from my scumrange i am so confused how you managed to *reeval* to me being scum like it looks all predicated on me defending zyla a slot i continue to claim has looked scummy with traditional reading methods in the past as town - which no one cared about except like dwlee to trust me on my read because they know i am a better reader of that slot than most.

[SCP 999]

like the best argument rn for you not to be scum rn is that i can't see you partnered with anyone here and to accept you as 100% scum means making the game much harder.

can you tell me what you think scum looks like assuming:
im town
im scum

[SCP 999]

"obviously wasn't"

man the ableism

[SCP 999]

sorry let me just turn off my autism rq

[SCP 999]

my bad that was out of line i got mad that i was expected to read sarcasm when they were very much posting in a way a frustrated scum does and has done so in the past at me.

[SCP 999]

feels inappropriate to continue asking stuff after that since i dont want to use that as manipulation to change anyone's read on me in the case you are town so im going to step away

[SCP 999]

are u fcuking kidding me

[SCP 999]

LLD having 2 puzzle pieces while I have the 3rd is also a pretty good ending for me

[SCP 999]

im also seeing why infinity scum with zyla scum would take the first opportunity to vote me over zyla once momentum shifted off her.
I need to see voting patterns from infinity/gamma but i think we got a double hit with this and my findings will match the theory

[SCP 999]

Didnt i call an infinity/zyla/roden team and roden directly try to say its ridiculous?
I did definitely call one with roden that he discredited but i forget the other 2

[SCP 999]

HAHAHA

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VOTE: infinity
Fuck it we BALL

[SCP 999]

the way i was 4th scum half the game but the wrong scum flipped first
Honestly now that i think about it I'm willing to venture the slip eas about me

[SCP 999]

because enchant just got here and deserves another day to talk

plus i didn't have hammer on enchant.

do you not think infinity flips scum here?

[SCP 999]

i was around when enchant replaced in and would have instructed him not to claim the ascetic part of his role and would have coached him to help himself - infinity and gamma were not around ergo enchant slipping in the way they did was what prompted the final push on the hammer - plus i was only really waiting on the replacement to say enough to get a read on them.

[SCP 999]

we're town, enchant/cakez/koba has the scum i think

gl i guess

-infinity

learned your lesson claiming scum when hammered from Metal Game Covers huh

[SCP 999]

i was around when enchant replaced in and would have instructed him not to claim the ascetic part of his role and would have coached him to help himself - infinity and gamma were not around ergo enchant slipping in the way they did was what prompted the final push on the hammer - plus i was only really waiting on the replacement to say enough to get a read on them.

when i was scum with enchant in radio buzz, he just went ahead and claimed without consulting us

well I would have been 2 steps ahead and instructed him on what happened and such. im not silly.
never scummed with enchant though so i cant really say how he would react to me specifically but id like to believe he would respect me enough as i would have identified my main

[SCP 999]

we're town, enchant/cakez/koba has the scum i think

gl i guess

-infinity

learned your lesson claiming scum when hammered from Metal Game Covers huh

didnt i accidentally trick you into thinking murder was my partner in my twilight posting

-infinity

no, i ended up reevaling onto your real partner LOL

[SCP 999]

GIF please give infinity spoilers on my alignment if they do flip town, i want them to eat crow asap

[SCP 999]

still feel vindicated by how infinity slot treated me with 0 charitability and refused to engage the game holistically

[SCP 999]

i kinda just want to lim today I feel like scum aren't gonna kill any of the big suspects

Weird because the most plausible explainations for last night were trying to kill me *or* forgetting to kill.

[SCP 999]

i'm pretty sure I know what happened last night and it doesn't involve Koba

Claim it then

[SCP 999]

Bc regardless if it's a roleblock scenario im still clear by virtue of ascetic

[SCP 999]

dwlee who do you think is the scumteam atp?

I have thoughts about the enchant being breached thing but i'm saving it for later.

[SCP 999]

i think enchant being breached is +town

this is the exact opposite thought i had

[SCP 999]

Roden

Name:

Second Chance

Code:

SCP-069

Class:

Safe

Alignment:

Infiltrator

Effect when breached:

Impersonating

passive will trigger.

Research:

• Body Snatching [Cost: 1 D-Class]
  : During the night when making a nightkill, you will have your abnormality assume the personality of one of the D-Class (sacrificing them in the process) and snatch the player's body. The target's flip will be hidden. This ability can only be used once.
  
• Impersonating [Passive]
  : During the night, you will learn one of the ability of the player that visits you that resolves last on the natural action resolution.

Win Condition:

Achieve parity with alive

SCP foundation Researchers

or deplete either amount of Class Ds or Security guards.

roden's role PM for reference ^

I believe the breach mechanic was similarly a red herring as was the dclass/security guard win con - nearly none of flipped town so far have had it - including myself, and 1 flipped scum had it and it boosted their abilities.

[SCP 999]

btw can we claim dclass usage now

last night and the night before -we never claimed.

I used nothing since n1 so there's that.

[SCP 999]

I used 2 dclass

I used 4 dclass last night. that was the only time i used any.

i have used 3 d class every night

well well well

[SCP 999]

No one was eliminated Night 4.

8 D-Classes expired

0 Security Guards expired
8 D-Classes refilled

D Class total = 56
Security Guard total = 18

Day 5 deadline: (expired on 2021-11-19 10:47:51)

[SCP 999]

i have used 3 d class every night

wait this is a slip unless you wish to quickly correct yourself without looking back right now

[SCP 999]

you have 2-5 minutes to do so with full town plausibility.

[SCP 999]

no he is saying *every* night.

I have been keeping track of dclass usage this whole game.

there is a discrepancy with tonight and another unspecified night

[SCP 999]

man what sucks is bc of replacements i cant get people to do the exercise i want to do really that reasonably but cephrir and cakez should alongside me: and detail all the actions you did this game and how you decided to do them.

i'm going to do so myself - even though my thought process was fairly transparent for the most part.



dwlee id like to do so too but im fairly sure they are still town here

[SCP 999]

you cc t3 and I then

[SCP 999]

moreso T3 because of the discrepancy today

[SCP 999]

wait let me make sure you didnt already claim it on d1

[SCP 999]

Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

i didn't use any d class or guards last night

why the votes on us

-infinity

eww

yeah whats up cakez

still mad about the end of day 1

lmao what the fuck happened while i was gone

anyways, mech stuff:
- my role does not use d-class or guards
- i visited dunnstral last night and was told that he is town; this result is unrelated to my role

will post actual game related takes later

kinda sus

how so?

lol

[SCP 999]

as much as i'd like to turbo vote a contradiction like this i'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt- now you have forfeited the option to claim last - fullclaim now.

[SCP 999]

(also we're sleeping today anyways)

[SCP 999]

man what sucks is bc of replacements i cant get people to do the exercise i want to do really that reasonably but cephrir and cakez should alongside me: and detail all the actions you did this game and how you decided to do them.

i'm going to do so myself - even though my thought process was fairly transparent for the most part.



dwlee id like to do so too but im fairly sure they are still town here

Night actions?

if you mean mine - i only acted n1 because i thought it was beneficial

[SCP 999]

oh i meant like - votes, reads, pushes, etc.

[SCP 999]

however basically today we have an inconsistency with how many dclass were used with the amount of claimed dclass - and cakez's inconsistency goes all the way back to d1 as well.

[SCP 999]

infinity being potentially right on cakez means i have to doubly apologize for defending cakez so hard


feelsbad lmao

[SCP 999]

me, calling people clowns all game... was the clown all along

[SCP 999]

but like i just dont get why just intentionally put yourself in such a claim contradiction but like is scum cakez usually this sloppy with mechs im trying to like at least consider a town angle here and work out the possibilities to make sure im not wrong.

[SCP 999]

the sooner u explain why you lied cakez btw the sooner we can move on to reading the game proper bc we are for the most part waiting on this issue to be resolved as we have this 3 way cc.

[SCP 999]

Intent to vote cakez

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cakez claimed d1 they used 0 dclass + the math for dclass on d1 adds up with 1 extra dclass remaining after all is said and done - which was assumed to be spent on the janitor ability that roden had and failed due to a doc save

[SCP 999]

and here they are hardclaiming using their ability for 3 dclass every night

[SCP 999]

what happened was that the doc was confirmed to be on dunns but dunns claimed that they did not see anyone else visit them - which implies a ninja or someone else was doc saved.

[SCP 999]

This adds a new discrepancy LOL
but also d1 cakez claimed no dlcass used and said they used 3 every night here and doubled down when asked so that still stands

[SCP 999]

Alright we good then

[SCP 999]

why has no one made a claim order yet?

It's literally you and Cephrir left

[SCP 999]

ascetic doesnt mean immune from night kills..

[SCP 999]

do you mean alienizes?

[SCP 999]

cakez can you paraphrase your ability? Retype the whole thing, without summarizing
After that i want to sleep

[SCP 999]

But is the targeted player able to act?

[SCP 999]

Hmm weird for the flavor but also my secondary ability doesnt fit flavor either so ill let it be

[SCP 999]

VOTE: sleep

[SCP 999]

can we just sleep and force scum to kill?

@cakez use your ability on dwlee till the end and force scum to kill outside please

[SCP 999]

ok in that case u can leave dwlee unprotected and keep saving t3 to force them to kill outside that if you think t3 was targeted over me

either way we are not limming today

[SCP 999]

the correct play in mlimlo is always to sleep

[SCP 999]

even if cakez is scum this is like heavily NAI because cakez ability creates a PT and thus cakez wouldnt just forget because they are scum

its opportunistic to shade him for it

[SCP 999]

Almost logged into the wrong acc again

Also scum are cowards smh

[SCP 999]

Fuck lost my posts but i basically said scum are confirmed intentionally no limming bc a kill incriminates them

[SCP 999]

We could theoretically no lim once more if no draw is at risk and i use my ability and cakez goes on me and then I confirm my secondary role as real to cakez

[SCP 999]

honestly for this scumteam idk at this point and i dont want to look like a clown pushing what i think rn is true bc removing just 1 person opens it up for me but scum wont oblige :/

[SCP 999]

why am I town though, dwlee?

[SCP 999]

im starting to feel due to this standstill that there is something fishy about the reality of scum refusing to kill you

[SCP 999]

ok cakez targeting u puts this into the world where scum accidentally tried to nightkill you which makes sense now

[SCP 999]

Why you didn't vote self then.

Imo mafia can't really to NK someone without ruining game seems.

Ceph is sus as hell (and useless), I am sus as hell, SCP999 can do something scary, you are sus as hell and T3 is protected.

VOTE: cephrir

[SCP 999]

LMAO OPEN THE TAB FOR KYOUKO IN ENCHANTS POST

thats so fucking funny and savage

"unjester award deserved"

honestly i really cant help but townread enchant here

[SCP 999]

dwlee would you mind going for cephrir here first - I have the gut feeling enchant is town and would like to actually force scum to kill and i think cephrir slot is scum from all angles here

[SCP 999]

e-1

[SCP 999]

dwlee would you mind going for cephrir here first - I have the gut feeling enchant is town and would like to actually force scum to kill and i think cephrir slot is scum from all angles here

uhhhh
now i'm paranoid that koba/enchant are scum

how about now?

[SCP 999]

Btw cakez was around when it was believed the wagon was e-1. I dont believe cakez didn't see that

[SCP 999]

bruh its literally ceph and cakez its clear

scum are intentionally no killing bye

[SCP 999]

The only way that ceph slot is town is if someone on wagon is scum with t3 slot or 2 scum already on wagon

[SCP 999]

make your own reads

[SCP 999]

cakez is clear from ydrasse pov

[SCP 999]

UNVOTE: Ceph

Holy shit finally we won

[SCP 999]

Gg

[SCP 999]

Yeah i trolled for reaction

[SCP 999]

cakez please be on dwlee tonight

[SCP 999]

forces the nightkill between you/enchant/t3 which is what we want or scum have to give us a mislim

[SCP 999]

Cakez you're my primary vote here.
You have a lot to explain.

[SCP 999]

@gif, the role pm has fucked up formatting

[SCP 999]

Also for all intents and purposes i am clear here.

[SCP 999]

Also we solved the no visit conundrum on the watcher - so there's that

[SCP 999]

Cakez intentionally dodged thread when cephir was believed at e-1 via double vote - cakez was elitelling


I feel that cakez has tried to coast his way to victory with a zyla or I mislim.

The fact he hasnt pushed me is probably the most egregious thing fmpov. He seems like the designated deepwolf.

Infinity was at least 1/2

[SCP 999]

Ok maybe cakez is town if he still thinks it could be me lmfao

[SCP 999]

Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

I'd be okay killing infinity zero, Koba or Zyra

[SCP 999]

cakez being unwilling to see a confirmed vig as possible scum vig also lines up even tho its literslly limlo and he has 2 other suspects that are very town by play lmao

LLD dayplay was pretty lackluster so honestly sucks lol

I feel that scum wont give us a kill between t3 or cakez bc at this point its a cc there.

[SCP 999]

A lack of energy is pretty damming tho

[SCP 999]

Well literally voted against him onto scum voting a now confirmed townie lmaoo

[SCP 999]

999 was breached

hey dwlee we have a scumslip hahahaha

[SCP 999]

Im ascetic and bulletproof

[SCP 999]

Also breaching just roleblocks the breach attempt(it does nothing)
Also i just learned i had a breach effect

[SCP 999]

i yelled that the vig wasnt confirmation of someone being town and everyone made fun of me so yeah whos the smart one to ignore it and evaluate dayplay instead

[SCP 999]

Theyve been able to use abilities like janitor and ninja so far so

[SCP 999]

Its a scumclaim because they couldn't have gotten a green result nevermind a result

[SCP 999]

Basic game mechanics

• There are 10
  SCP foundation Researchers
  and 3
  Infiltrators
  .
  
• Game starts with 50 Class D and 20 security guards.
  
• Each day replenishes 8 D-class. Security guards will not be replenished.
  
• Infiltrators win if either class Ds or security guards deplete.
  
• Infiltrators get a factional action called containment breach attempt. This action is separate from the nightkill.
  • Containment breach can be done once per night. The target's containment will be breached at the end of the next night.
• The abilities are not multitasking unless specifically mentioned.
  
• SCP foundation Researchers Win condition is: Rout out all the infiltrators.
  
• Infiltrators Win condition is: Achieve parity with alive SCP foundation Researchers or deplete either amount of Class Ds or Security guards.

[SCP 999]

Yeah but still :p im ascetic remember

[SCP 999]

I still want cakez to lay out thought process because in limlo no bets are off

[SCP 999]

Also breaching just roleblocks the breach attempt(it does nothing)
Also i just learned i had a breach effect

Right but this made it sound like you could be breached?

I think im unbreachable unless i turn off my ascetic and it just says it does absolutely nothing

[SCP 999]

man we have a 50/50 and theres good points for both

honestly gonna reread both but leaning LLD slot for the shallowness in play

[SCP 999]

Ive been burned so much by townie soundimg roles that really you need to analyze a person's whole.play and not just mechanical play yknow
Like mods will give scum townie stuff xD

[SCP 999]

lol when i forced kyouko through despite the claim xD

[SCP 999]

In large 236

[SCP 999]

I think the most egregious thing is when people cant explain why they used their mech the way they did and thats scummy but otherwise its just a claim and thats that.
In a world with so much protection and ascetic roles we got viability for a scum vig 100%

[SCP 999]

Mafia no killed for 2 nights straight so

[SCP 999]

Breaches unlock permanent effects so it would make sense to unlock permanent effects
But like i said im ascetic too so t3 cant have had a result

[SCP 999]

I was expecting a reasonable explaination why you got a result

[SCP 999]

What we can do is no lim and have cakez target me, verifying tbat my breach doesnt actually disable my invulnerability despite it being worded in a way that suggests doing nothing.

[SCP 999]

VOTE: no lim
@cakez target me

[SCP 999]

If cakez cant get a hood with me then that means t3 is 100% lying about getting a result on me

[SCP 999]

My role doesnt specify night or day

[SCP 999]

@t3 paraphrase your secondary role

i want to hash out this mech discrepancy and then move onto solving via dayplay if we arent just winning via caught mech lie

[SCP 999]

So the syntax of my role says it roleblocks people who attempt to visit me.
I lied about ascetic - so thats why i thought there was a reasonable explaination for t3

[SCP 999]

Im gonna pretend that its possible breaches work differently from t3s role so i will file it as nai then

[SCP 999]

Rereading the breach effect i don't see it possibly disabling it.

Dwlee can you towncase yourself too btw?
I wanna be thorough since this is my last game b4 i take a break

[SCP 999]

just a short description is cool from memory why you think you're town and all.

then we can pick up later

[SCP 999]

In case after I cased and buried 2 scum, including 1 in limlo overriding another vote for an easy LHF thats flipped town now - who I also defended early game when they were consensus read scum - here is an example of a recent limlo town play I had and the reason why scum is utterly fucked here : https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87680

[SCP 999]

in case after all that anyone thinks im possibly scum ^

[SCP 999]

VC 1.02

Zyla (1):

StrangeMatter

SCP 999 (1):

Galron

StrangeMatter (7):

Roden

, SirCakez, Lady Lambdadelta,

SCP 999

,

Infinity Zero

,

Cephrir

, [color=greenDeadbeat[/color]

Not Voting:

Dunnstral, Ampharos, Zyla

, Dwlee99

With

13

alive,

7

to quick-eliminate

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-17 17:50:32)

D-Class left:

50

Security Guards left:

20

VC 2.01

Infinity Zero (2):

Cephrir, Lady Lambdadelta

Cephrir

(2):

Zyla, Ampharos

SCP 999

(1):

Dwlee99

Dwlee99 (2):

SCP 999, Infinity Zero[/cplor]

Not Voting:

Galron

, SirCakez,

Roden

,

Dunnstral

With

11

alive,

6

to eliminate

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-20 14:44:08)

D-Class left:

48

Security Guards left:

18

VC 2.02

Infinity Zero (4):

Cephrir

, Lady Lambdadelta, SirCakez, Dwlee99

Cephrir

(1):

Ampharos

Zyla

(2):

SCP 999, Infinity Zero

SirCakez (1):

Zyla

Not Voting:

Galron

,

Roden

,

Dunnstral[/cplor]

With

11

alive,

6

to eliminate

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-20 14:44:08)

D-Class left:

48

Security Guards left:

18

going thru some vote counts to get a better visual picture

gonna keep going later.

[SCP 999]

yes i made myself green bc its blatant asf im town here atp.

[SCP 999]

fuck i missed a red on cephrir in one of them

[SCP 999]

maybe i should have pedited it lol

[SCP 999]

im gonna do a crawl of this game related to cakez

i already have the case against t3 - I was very interested in LLD early on and her interaction with cephrir were also not very good.

so i'm most likely going to vote T3 by EOD.

[SCP 999]

T3, pushing me wont work. Just letting you know that right now.

You will need to make a case against dwlee(difficult, but if you find a good case I will hear it out.) or cakez.

right now I'm not so sure on cakez because cakez was trying to push through enchant who is now confirmed town and also was elitelling while we believed cephrir was at e-1.

[SCP 999]

Do we not care about confirming whatever that was?

T3 claimed specifically an ability that doesnt target.

we dont have enough info to say that the breach cant bypass my ability - and regardless it is useless.

[SCP 999]

at most we can no lim twice so cakez can confirm that my role is as I say it is, first time they use it to target me and see it roleblocks and then the 2nd time they see i can turn it off with my activated ability.

but also thats a waste of time and im towny as fk anyways so.

[SCP 999]

@dwlee im multiisoing 2 flipped scum with cakez rn if you wanna hop in and do the same: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

[SCP 999]

I'm still surprised IZ flipped town after pushing you as scum

infinity had the read right the first time and then tinfoiled me like most people do when they decide they cant crutch a read anymore lol


idk.

when im right im right

[SCP 999]

Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

VOTE: roden
don't like 125

Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

oh 999 is Koba? this feels like scum Koba

VOTE: scp 999

[SCP 999]

Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

hey cakez - why am i scummy?

why was my vote scummy?

i feel like ur playing to scum meta
and that vote feels like it's trying to stir the pot and put a new wagon on the table

lmfao everytime i see this post it makes me laugh out loud.

like

cakez has never seen scum me except when i got him mislimmed so LMFAO

[SCP 999]

yeah and then later LLD and cakez were on Infinity with roden and cephrir on d2.

we know for a fact scum were not afraid to block vote at all.

[SCP 999]

the more I read cakez the more I think its just cakez here.

[SCP 999]

Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

Wtf happened yesterday? I woke up to the thread being locked and a Cop claim getting flash wagon'd for no apparent reason. I kept rereading what happened but all anyone kept saying was "yeah this is probably scum" over and over again.

I believe the Vig claim since I'm sure scum were salivating over Deadbeat's hammer and would never NK a policy elim. Though this means scum either no-killed or got blocked; it's possible they tried to shoot 999 to try to call their bluff. Either that or we have a protective role making god tier plays with zero information.

You're locktown.

I need Koba reaction images for trolling you when you post shit like this

lol at that point I was trying to exaggerate a light townread there - Roden was pretty tonally townie to me and then they fell off which was when I started scumreading them lack of endurance/long term energy is always a good tell to discard early content.

[SCP 999]

Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

1) there was only 1 kill. I am a self protective who self disabled protection. Occams razor can conclude with known information that there is an equal chance that there was a save and that there was no vig shot.
2) lld claimed 1 shot. We have no future way to verify the claim now according to her.
3) the only proof of ability used is resources drained. The win con for scum is to gain a majority/plurality or drain all resources. It is reasonable to think there is a chance they have resource draining abilities.

all of this makes the claim NAI and should NOT be at all factoring into your read on her - like seriously i have not once mentioned that I scumread her off the claim and that the fact theres no proof just maintains plausibility.

nah

i agree that scum vigs are possible, but they're not the most likely thing, and so it's enough to look past the slot especially when there are plenty of others i have equally no reason to townread

i don't think scum took a shot on someone who was going to come under fire today with their normal nightkill

cephrir seems very interested in defending LLD though - like throughout the day.


but also cakez does it but also its cakez so lul

[SCP 999]

Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

VOTE: roden
don't like 125

okay on mobile so can't be bothered for full thing but this is cakez vote before voting you for the scum meta thing. Hops off Roden with 1231

ur late i already posted that like several posts back smh

[SCP 999]

i wanna also go through and see how cephrir treats people like confirmed townies and compare it to how they treat roden and the alive townies now - and vice versa with roden

[SCP 999]

i have a strong feeling that the galron lim day will be informative and that is my prediction based on D2.

[SCP 999]

Subject: Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

@999:

WRT the Lady Vig situation, even if you believe it's possible she's scum who shot mis-elim bait then fake claimed Vig, it's practically guaranteed that the situation will resolve itself, because the real Vig would just CC with their own bullet tonight. And in the rare situation where the Vig is unable to shoot her tonight, they can just openly CC tomorrow instead.

The only way this doesn't work is if town doesn't actually have a Vig at all, but that seems unlikely for a role madness type game.

roden also coming to LLD's defense thinking