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[osuka]

see this is where i have a problem with the push - i do think t3 is scummy, even if not as much as andante, but how is there a guilty there? the voyeur-follower slot confirmed that he didn't do anything and it wasn't because of a roleblock, and he himself admitted to having fakeclaimed. is that all there is? that doesn't actually make a guilty

He backtracked his claim after getting caught in a lie. It's like if a cop claimed a guilty on someone and they went "oh yeah, I'm miller". It's still a guilty.

that's not a guilty, though - not in terms of alignment anyway. i agree it looks weird but saying t3 fakeclaimed therefore he's scum is ridiculously hyperbolic

[osuka]

yeah andante you haven't done anything to dig yourself out of that hole in, uh, 2000 posts?

[osuka]

coast city, baby, population: andante

[osuka]

yeah andante you haven't done anything to dig yourself out of that hole in, uh, 2000 posts?

what hole?

you had a stroke on like page 2 and you havent made any sense since

[osuka]

that's not a guilty, though - not in terms of alignment anyway. i agree it looks weird but saying t3 fakeclaimed therefore he's scum is ridiculously hyperbolic

I think I pretty clearly did not say that was necessarily the case. I think it's the most likely. A guilty does not have to be 100% to be called such.

that's toeing the line between slight exaggeration and misrep, because it is a slight exaggeration but it's also the cornerstone of the push on that slot

so, uh, pass?

[osuka]

osuka was a scum doc with 2 scum doc partners the game I was gunsmith. good times.

oh yeah good times

that's what i was alluding to when i mentioned a datisi setup lmao

[osuka]

since in very many worlds that doctor would've cced April on d1 (or today ..)

Also question: do you think two doctors can't exist in a setup? Why would they necessarily have counter claimed?

two ungated town doctors means that if one claims then neither can be nightkilled, unless there's a mafia slot that can roleblock but then that's _really_ swingy

[osuka]

yeah andante you haven't done anything to dig yourself out of that hole in, uh, 2000 posts?

what hole?

you had a stroke on like page 2 and you havent made any sense since

ah thanks. happy to be here!!! Love your positivity!!!

when have i ever been known to be positive

[osuka]

catching up now

should only take 1h16min

[osuka]

tf was that kill.
Ok so we have Enchant alive as conf!town.

I suggest we kill Andante today, cus they were pretty scummy and i don't buy that: "huh? T3 was guiltied scum? I didn't read anything!! Sounds like killing him is a good idea tho?!" reaction.

refresh my memory - how does april flipping town doctor make enchant conftown?

[osuka]

Mafia cop means there's very possibly a traitor?

id assume so

[osuka]

Mafia cop means there's very possibly a traitor?

id assume so

relevant:

I have a weird feeling this might be a traitor game

interesting take

the mafia cop flip makes this already previously interesting take significantly more interesting

[osuka]

Mafia cop means there's very possibly a traitor?

I've never played in a traitor setup.
Is that a typical thing?

not to my knowledge - but traitor games aren't all that common to begin with afaik so really who knows

[osuka]

Who did the announcing role cop check again? A50 on night 1 and Dwlee on night 2?
Seems a bit townsided? Because mafia will likely never target one of their town using the role cop (unless this is an traitor game as theorized by other players).
I feel like A50 and Dwlee are almost certainly confirmed not scum with T3 assuming the announcing role cop is with the main mafia team.

why does mafia have an announcing rolecop and an even night cop though? isn't that fucking weird?

are we discarding the possibility that we have an announcing rolecop traitor? i think thats significantly more likely

[osuka]

At the very least my role as a doctor is confirmed. So unless you think I'm a scum doctor why are you doubt casting me rn

i think scum doctor makes this setup even weirder than it would be with a scum rolecop, which i didnt really think was possible until you mentioned that

[osuka]

tf was that kill.
Ok so we have Enchant alive as conf!town.

I suggest we kill Andante today, cus they were pretty scummy and i don't buy that: "huh? T3 was guiltied scum? I didn't read anything!! Sounds like killing him is a good idea tho?!" reaction.

refresh my memory - how does april flipping town doctor make enchant conftown?

Do you disagree?

no i just dont get why that is and i have a feeling that's because i just dont remember some critical thing about it

[osuka]

so I flip green, then you just auto lim osuka? without a thought? sounds like a real good plan to win!
why would you die? I highly doubt you’re a nightkill lol

bad take

[osuka]

ninja is also a bad take

[osuka]

why are you asking the mafia who the mafia is

[osuka]

if there really is a traitor in the game, she doesnt even know that anyway

[osuka]

if there really is a traitor in the game, she doesnt even know that anyway

wdym lol, mafia has to be informed that a traitor is in the game if applicable

i mean mafia doesn’t know who the traitor is, genius

[osuka]

call me crazy, but I'm gonna do this

VOTE: osuka

?????

[osuka]

I don't sr gerain lol osuka has made attempts to pocket me/defend me which honestly feel like TMI to win me over, but then hasn't really done anything outside that, and he's playing very similarly to the other normal I played with him where he was scum, I have more conviction behind osuka scum than gerain scum

if i really wanted to pocket you, i wouldve. dont you worry about a thing

im not trying to pocket you because i dont think that actually benefits me in a material way in this situation, so really it's just sort of pointless and i'm better off doing other things in this game state. but, if i really did want to pocket you, you wouldn't know

[osuka]

Jeff....I've got nothing from them. There was a bit where they said they are going to need to reevaluate, but nothing after that.

Both Jeff and osaku feel like they've checked out of thr game, esp osuka. On the basis of their play so far, that is where I would be leaning most strongly

no yeah ive just been really busy with life. sorry about that, i'm still here

just trying to catch up as often as i can, but it's been a difficult week

[osuka]

We lim between osuka and Geraintm today

why me? do you actually have anything of substance?

[osuka]

Osuka is better cus i think there should be a bit more fire there if he was town, so i could see it flipping scum.

give up trying to read me

[osuka]

can someone actually point out what, if any, real bases for this push exist? i'm struggling to find anything so really as far as i can tell this is sort of stupid

[osuka]

Osuka is better cus i think there should be a bit more fire there if he was town, so i could see it flipping scum.

give up trying to read me

No.

you clearly can't do it so i'm just giving you friendly advice. your effort is obviously better spent elsewhere, unless you're scum in which case good job swaying everyone else with a zero-effort post

[osuka]

Osuka is better cus i think there should be a bit more fire there if he was town, so i could see it flipping scum.

give up trying to read me

No.

you clearly can't do it so i'm just giving you friendly advice. your effort is obviously better spent elsewhere, unless you're scum in which case good job swaying everyone else with a zero-effort post

What zero effort post?

3043

but youd know that if you read 3063 to begin with

[osuka]

it takes longer to type that than to come up with the idea

[osuka]

the idea is bad _and_ wrong, but hey you know nice try

would be better if you actually tried though

[osuka]

can someone actually point out what, if any, real bases for this push exist? i'm struggling to find anything so really as far as i can tell this is sort of stupid

I get you, I feel the push on me is the same.

I think you are more likely to be scum than most people in the game, and certainly more likely than me

VOTE: osaku

You've not really come back to the game with much

i havent come back with much because theres not anything substantial to respond to. what the fuck am i supposed to say? i can't address any of the points made in the push on my slot because, oh, would you look at that, there's nothing there!

what do you expect me to do in this situation?

[osuka]

like the push is completely empty. there's nothing tangible there so i can't actually give a proper response to anything anyone's saying, because they're not saying anything real to begin with

if someone says "i feel like xyz", then just about all you can do is tell them their feelings are wrong and they need to stop feeling and start thinking

[osuka]

Osuka (3) Andante, Almost50, geraintm [E-2]
geraintm (2) Something_Smart, Dwlee99

VOTE: Geraintm
^Lol when thinking i just said: "i tend to eliminate Geraintm as scum".
But seriously, i now think this is an decent vote for the time being, for multiple reasons.

what in t3's iso changed your mind as far as voting gerain instead of me?

[osuka]

im pretty sure most of t3's crumbs are just pulled out of his ass

[osuka]

here let me show you

[osuka]

two of the scum pinned in the first day or two but they decided to execute me instead :)))))))))))

if i said i was night 1,2 jailkeeper would you say that's a believable crumb?

[osuka]

as an aside, i typically see crumbing as completely meaningless for that reason alone. after a day or two of just idly posting, you can find at least a few posts that could be crumbs with basically zero effort. that took me under three minutes and it's actually not that bad of a fit, is it?

[osuka]

thanks for the birthday wishes guys

[osuka]

Wait did osuka claim yet

i did not. should I?

[osuka]

Wait did osuka claim yet

No, and posted lots after was asked to too.

i missed it

claim vt

[osuka]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY OSUKA!!! I can only give you 1 present. A vote :)

VOTE: Osuka

(given today, so it's special!)

garbage

you're piggybacking off of three votes that are largely unjustified. nobody's actually done anything of substance to get a wagon going, which is only happening because the deadline is here and we dont have options

how many times do i have to point out that there's NOTHING there to respond to before someone takes note of the fact that the wagon is dogshit?

[osuka]

im just annoyed because theres nothing to respond to in the push. nobody's said anything about me or anything i did, it was literally just two people voteparked me for no good reason and everyone else just sorta followed. andante i know for a fact hasn't said a fucking thing about my slot and yet here we are

[osuka]

thanks norwe

[osuka]

for my birthday i would like someone to tell me why the fuck people are voting my slot other than a textbook case of groupthink

[osuka]

If Osuka flips town i’m tunneling Jeff tommorow.

do you just wanna start right now?

[osuka]

alright im gonna elect to trust norwe for no good reason other than if he was scum he definitely didn't have to do any of that, because if he's scum then he knows for a fact i'll flip green. there's no reason for him to expose himself like that other than to try to pocket me, which wont really work here if jeff flips green because then that casts a lot of doubt on what the fuck just happened

VOTE: jeff