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Post Post #2156 (isolation #200) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:32 am

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Also, if you are town thinking I am scum, it doesn't even make sense to be upset because if I were scum, that would be exactly what I'm supposed to do.

If you flip town, all of that will be noted and the game will continue and adapt.
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #201) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:32 am

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In post 2155, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Did i pick an 5 star difficulty game totally by accident.
Kill the VT. It sucks if they're town, but it's like legitimately optimal on a lot of levels at this point. I feel like you're just paranoid of me, and it's holding it back.
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Post Post #2159 (isolation #202) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:34 am

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Almost50 and Something Smart are the 2 players that know me best in this game. Have faith in that.

And if we were the scum team, I would not even be this close to being rung up. This entire game would have just been built from the ground up differently.
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Post Post #2161 (isolation #203) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:34 am

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In post 2158, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2151, Holiday wrote:Town but still needs to die. Cool.

What a fun, fun game. Real glad I got to play.

Whatever.
Like this doesn’t feel like posts scum would make. Cus they seem just annoyed, and not actually trying to survive.
scum get annoyed too.
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #204) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:35 am

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In post 2160, Holiday wrote:Fuck off with your advice.

“What could I have done differently” when you pushed me with a case that starts by LIKING STUFF I POSTED. HOW DO I REPLY TO A PUSH LIKE THAT OTHER THAN CALL IT RIDICULOUS.

Stop talking.
You can find other scum :shrug:, do some actual town work rather than just emotion OMGUS.
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Post Post #2166 (isolation #205) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:35 am

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In post 2162, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But if Jeff is voting Holiday then i guess it doesn’t matter too much in the end anyways. So just cross fingers and hope it could be scum?
there's so much to come from the flip regardless, and it's a VT flip worst case scenario. Are you just not wanting to misfade them because you'll feel bad?
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Post Post #2169 (isolation #206) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:37 am

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okay, why are the other people on your wagon scum? what reasons do you have? Genuine question.
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Post Post #2175 (isolation #207) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:45 am

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Frankly, I just feel like my town reads are far stronger than Holiday's and I've given reasons for why I am town reading certain slots, essentially this entire game bar my first reads list.

I have been keeping everyone updated on where I stand this entire game, and I believe the evolution of my reads are super transparent, something I am actively trying to do as town. let everyone know where i stand on every single slot.

I have actively tried to connect with most slots, bar a few, and have tried to look at the game from their perspective.

I'm doing a lot of town work, and I believe it shows if you look in my post.

This doesn't make Holiday scum, but if you compare who's actually narrowing down who could be scum, I have done far more than Holiday.

the 2 most familiar players with me are voting alongside me after this day phase, and the players pushing me are basically just yelling on emotion or are players not doing much like geraint, and Osuka who was just willing to compromise, but ended on my to create the counterwagons, which was fine, and caused a lot of discussion. Kind of a + move on Osuka now that I just checked their ISO.
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Post Post #2176 (isolation #208) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:46 am

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In post 2174, Holiday wrote:
In post 2171, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2168, Holiday wrote:Like holy shit happening before everyone’s eyes the things I have said this game are being boiled into nothing but emotion when there are reasons.
Well you’ve been pretty emotional yourself soo, a bit hypocritical to say that lol.
I said nothing BUT emotion I know I’m pissed off but there’s reason to what I think BEYOND that and yet that reason is being washed away.

If I became confirmed green, who of Andante/Tracer would you find scummier?
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Post Post #2177 (isolation #209) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:48 am

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In post 2175, April Ludgate wrote:Kind of a + move on Osuka now that I just checked their ISO.
*+town move
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Post Post #2180 (isolation #210) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:57 am

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it's just an evolution of the history of our dynamic, yeah.
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Post Post #2183 (isolation #211) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:07 am

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In post 2182, Enchant wrote:So anyway, i found avatar.
is it enchanting?
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Post Post #2205 (isolation #212) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:28 pm

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@Norwegian - id rather you not leave it to Hella Jeff (not that I think Hella Jeff is gonna vote me necessarily, but more for the action for you to make. It feels like you actively just want to let Jeff make the decision, but I feel like if you vote me, then that's also a sign to persuade Hella Jeff towards me.

I want ya to accept the town hand I'm throwing out by making the active choice to at least not vote me.

Sure, it's survivalistic, but I do truly want to town block, and cause a great stir for scum.

We have to work with building our town reads on this game. What can I do to get you to see I'm town?

I want to get to the level with you where it isn't down to Holiday/April, I want you to wonder if Holiday is scum or not, and alternative would be to flash wagon elsewhere. (not that i think that's the right path, but that mindset of wishing it was possible is where I'm trying to work with you to get.
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Post Post #2206 (isolation #213) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:29 pm

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@Norwweigan - say Hella Jeff voted me to make it so you were the final vote, that would have you lean towards voting me because the other non voter did, and that's the same active choice you would be making if you voted me here giving HJ. It doesn't turn it into a 50-50, it's more of a 65-35
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Post Post #2209 (isolation #214) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:33 pm

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Also, with flips, reading me should become incredibly easy.
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Post Post #2212 (isolation #215) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:35 pm

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Keep in mind, Osuka voted me as a compromise as well, and was also leaning Holiday at one point. That was before my claim.

I feel like Osuka would be willing to go to Holiday
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Post Post #2214 (isolation #216) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:36 pm

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In post 2210, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2205, April Ludgate wrote:I want ya to accept the town hand I'm throwing out by making the active choice to at least not vote me.

Sure, it's survivalistic, but I do truly want to town block, and cause a great stir for scum.
I don't really trust you to the level where i'd have you as a townblock read tho. I don't think my trust can go any higher than an certain percentage.
but it's okay enough to work towards that in optimism? That's why I feel we need flips, flips can help you go higher because you'll get to see where I'm coming from with the knowledge of other slots.

I become super easy to read as the game goes on, as both alignments.

SomethingSmart said he would never go near me Day 1 for a reason.
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Post Post #2216 (isolation #217) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:39 pm

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In post 2123, Something_Smart wrote:I think it would take quite a lot to get me to vote you on D1.

Certainly after you've claimed a PR, bullshit sensors going off though they may be, I wouldn't ever be touching you.
@Norwegian - there's a reason for this, and it's because I become increasingly easier to read as the game goes on, even if I have complete backwards reads, it eventually gets to the right one, and i start to be able to bleed town.

Putting me in range to hammer is essentially the hammer vote on me.
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Post Post #2217 (isolation #218) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:39 pm

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In post 2215, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2211, Dwlee99 wrote:Norwee can you trust me and then trust april by proxy?
But i don't trust u either.
but you can give us the chance.
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Post Post #2218 (isolation #219) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:39 pm

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give me the opportunity to earn your trust
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Post Post #2220 (isolation #220) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:40 pm

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You just can't really expect to be able to fully trust me on Day 1, but as the game goes on, you definitely will be able to.
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Post Post #2224 (isolation #221) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:45 pm

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In post 2219, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I honestly just get more paranoid when u focus so hard on me.
Can you tell me why you think your bottom 3 scumreads are mafia instead?
it's not necessarily i think all 3 of them are, it's just the nature of how they're pushing me.

I focus more on finding strong town reads than finding strong scum reads early because it's literally scum's job to manipulate the gamestate.

I felt that Gamma/A50 likely had 1 scum in it, it's why they were brought down early from town reads to the null.

I brought up that hitting a VT flip Day 1 isn't as preferable as pushing elsewhere to get more claims, and possibly hit a role that isn't a VT. Tracer comes in hard aggro, yelling. However, if you look at how they're pushing, it's completely a fluff push, talking down on my posts in a "bad" type of way, which is inherently a discredit way of playing. If Holiday is scum, Tracer has a good chance at chainsaw'ing me, and if Holiday is town, it benefits Tracer to pick a side, and stick with it to get more claims/fade a higher priority target than a VT.

Andante, eh, if I'm wrong on Holiday/Tracer, then that's where that is. I feel there's a chance they're just a town sheep who has an idea of what they think is "bad", but dont really understand that there isn't bad takes this early in a game, but buzzwords could get them.
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Post Post #2225 (isolation #222) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:46 pm

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In post 2222, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2220, April Ludgate wrote:You just can't really expect to be able to fully trust me on Day 1, but as the game goes on, you definitely will be able to.
If Holiday is scum, where next. And if he's town?
Frankly, probably Tracer either which way. I was feeling Gamma was the scum before Tracer replaced in since I had started to town read A50.
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Post Post #2226 (isolation #223) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:49 pm

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To be honest, I'm near the point where I'd call Tracer a higher chance of being scum than Holiday, which is another reason I'm comfortable with Hella Jeff this game because of their mindmeld.

I already kinda felt Hella Jeff was seeing us as TvT, which is something I can see being a thing.

But at this point, we need to consolidate, and my second strongest scum read + worst case scenario we fade a highly contested VT slot, then yeah, I feel like it should be obvious that Holiday's the best play, personally.
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Post Post #2228 (isolation #224) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:56 pm

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If you need to vote me, you need to vote me, but please just don't do it in a way to let Hella Jeff Decide, all i ask.
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Post Post #2229 (isolation #225) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:58 pm

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@Norwegian - what is your reads list?
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #226) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:05 pm

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In post 2230, Hella Jeff wrote:
In post 2191, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2189, Tracer.Bullet wrote:
In post 2162, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But if Jeff is voting Holiday then i guess it doesn’t matter too much in the end anyways. So just cross fingers and hope it could be scum?
Just vote April and give Jeff a choice

otherwise Jeff can have the excuse that he had no choice but to vote for Holiday since he couldn't hammer April.
Hm, that’s persuasive.
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Post Post #2236 (isolation #227) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:38 pm

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I think Norwegian's analysis on Tracer is really poor. =/
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Post Post #2240 (isolation #228) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:44 pm

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tracer, one of Norwegian/Hella Jeff slots, one of Holiday/someone on Holiday wagon slot is 90%+ the team.

Came in after my claim today thinking this after wagonomics, and wanted to believe other wise. The way it got stalled made it feel like there was one in Norwegian/Hella Jeff and that they wanted the wagon to go towards me but were waiting for the other to make first move.

I believe the team is Tracer, Norwegian, and One on the Holiday wagon (if not Holiday, but I think we might be TvT)

Norwegian eventually chose to let Hella Jeff, the townie, come in and make the decision, but I made sure to make Norwegian not be able to just use that as the excuse.

Tracer was even starting to set Norwegian up to do so.
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Post Post #2241 (isolation #229) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:45 pm

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In post 2240, April Ludgate wrote:I believe the team is Tracer, Norwegian, and One on the Holiday wagon (if not Holiday, but I think we might be TvT)
I want this shown as my final reads if I die.
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Post Post #2243 (isolation #230) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:46 pm

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In post 2239, T3 wrote:are we actually e1ing the simple doctor claim

Holiday is an OMGUSer, Andante is a Sheep, Tracer is scum pushing my wagon, Osuka had a compromise vote, geraint just can't comprehend how people get early day 1's and goes all "what players should play like", and Norwegian was fence sitting trying to get on my wagon without seeming too eager.
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Post Post #2244 (isolation #231) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:47 pm

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In post 2242, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2241, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 2240, April Ludgate wrote:I believe the team is Tracer, Norwegian, and One on the Holiday wagon (if not Holiday, but I think we might be TvT)
I want this shown as my final reads if I die.
Yo same. Although maybe not the "on holiday" thing
i said "if not holiday", but i think there's a strong reasoning for Norwegian/Tracer previously Gamma slot tbh
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Post Post #2245 (isolation #232) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:49 pm

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In post 599, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Anyway, serious business.
I think April is town in this game.

And i do have a lot of experience with scum!Flavour Leaf so i think my accuracy should be somewhat decent.
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Post Post #2246 (isolation #233) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:50 pm

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In post 2245, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 599, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Anyway, serious business.
I think April is town in this game.

And i do have a lot of experience with scum!Flavour Leaf so i think my accuracy should be somewhat decent.
i guess this was super early, but i dont think ive changed that much since then tbh.
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Post Post #2247 (isolation #234) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:52 pm

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I would say go Tracer-->Norwegian-->Holiday. Holiday is stuck in their VT claim, so you can let that sit.

You can flip Tracer/Norwegian if you want, but if there are any Cops out there, just investigate Norwegian.
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Post Post #2248 (isolation #235) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:54 pm

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In post 1758, NorwegianboyEE wrote:How did we lose Gamma and end up with this.
when tracer replaced in
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Post Post #2249 (isolation #236) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:55 pm

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In post 1778, Tracer.Bullet wrote:People need to take a stance and pick a side

this game is already too long in D1.

If Dwlee only claims miller as town that's a trust tell.
Tracer came in forcing people to pick sides because they didnt want people splitting off from me.
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Post Post #2251 (isolation #237) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:58 pm

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Tracer is just incredibly obvious scum, and hardcore pushed a scum agenda this day phase, and Norwegian tries to position Tracer even further in a townie spotlight.

They came into the game with "dueling wagons is good" but then played the day hard pushing me, hard defending Holiday. they came into this game knowing exactly where and how they wanted to push in a scum motivated agenda.
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Post Post #2252 (isolation #238) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:59 pm

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In post 2250, Hella Jeff wrote:
In post 2243, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 2239, T3 wrote:are we actually e1ing the simple doctor claim

Holiday is an OMGUSer, Andante is a Sheep, Tracer is scum pushing my wagon, Osuka had a compromise vote, geraint just can't comprehend how people get early day 1's and goes all "what players should play like", and Norwegian was fence sitting trying to get on my wagon without seeming too eager.
hmmmm, about norwee
i think as scum i wouldn't be apologetic/fencesitty when voting you. i'd think this moment would be the most important to open wolf (if i used the phrase right)
if you're town, you're a simple doc and getting you out is incredibly good because by the start of d2 that's 2 PRs gone in 99% of worlds
a 2 for 1 seems really good
like, no fencesitting for me, there's a PR on the chopping block that i need to secure (and in some worlds, 'my buddy's at E-1 and i have no idea what jeff's going to do')
K, now think about this from Holiday being town perspective.
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #239) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:00 pm

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@Hella Jeff - I guarantee you scum want my fade over Holiday's if Holiday is town. Norwegian was there all day fence sitting defending slots against me, but did nothing to defend over on my slot. that is not fence sitting, that is trying to appear as if you are genuinely trying to solve.
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #240) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:00 pm

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@Hella Jeff - I guarantee you scum want my fade over Holiday's if Holiday is town. Norwegian was there all day fence sitting defending slots against me, but did nothing to defend over on my slot. that is not fence sitting, that is trying to appear as if you are genuinely trying to solve.
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #241) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:02 pm

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I will be flipping Town simple doctor.

You're in the position to choose likely what townie goes down. I feel like Holiday has a much higher chance at being scum just based on play alone. im biased since i know i'm town, but like...
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Post Post #2256 (isolation #242) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:07 pm

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Can you just vote Holiday, Jeff? Please. It's my first game in like 10 months, and I feel like I'm doing great town work. Probably a terrible reason, but like....come on.

I've been busting my ass trying to show people why I am town, been doing the work, did the analysis on every slot. Nothing else I could do. I'm not being scum read, people just want me to be scum.

If I eat a night kill, sure, but scum will need to try and night kill me at some point as a doctor. Holiday's never eating the night kill with the VT claim if they're town.
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Post Post #2258 (isolation #243) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:14 pm

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We should have tried to flash wagon Tracer when you brought it up earlier having doubts there.
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Post Post #2259 (isolation #244) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:15 pm

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idk if we would have gotten it, though.
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Post Post #2261 (isolation #245) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:16 pm

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if we're both town, Holiday, who's scum on your wagon?
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Post Post #2262 (isolation #246) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:16 pm

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In post 2261, April Ludgate wrote:if we're both town, Holiday, who's scum on your wagon?
* who's scum on my wagon, I mean
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Post Post #2264 (isolation #247) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:19 pm

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if Holiday is town, they let emotions effect them too much, and majorly hindered their play.

if Holiday is scum, they picked a poor course of action to a wagon on them from OMGUS shout battling, because if they're scum, they're screwed even if they get through this day phase because of it. Scum needed to make a different choice.
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Post Post #2266 (isolation #248) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:21 pm

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they didn't answer me earlier when I asked about who was scummier, Tracer or Andante, meaning they aren't willing to collaborate.

and before Holiday gets upset, not necessarily talking to you when saying what you should have done, just stating facts around the play itself. my own analysis, and i share my research.
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Post Post #2267 (isolation #249) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:23 pm

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In post 2265, Holiday wrote:You can save your breath and time and stop posturing when Jeff's all but voted me.
if you took the time to think about it, jeff was actively thinking we're TvT, something that comes across majorly in his posting. If you were capable of stepping back, we could have possibly found a new wagon, but you were too hard up on your OMGUS wagon to and basically just let scum manipulate the game around you.

I was ready to go for Tracer, but you refused to work in any regards, which is just weak town if you are town.

If you are scum, yeah, way too salty, work on that, bud.
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Post Post #2269 (isolation #250) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:25 pm

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In post 2268, Holiday wrote:Wouldn't have collaborated on Tracer.

Uninterested in working with someone who I think could still flip scum. Uninterested in 'stepping back' from my reads when I find your townblock horrific and your actions the catalyst for this entire mess.
mark of a weak townie.
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Post Post #2271 (isolation #251) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:26 pm

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whether or not you are town is irrelevant to your town philosophy.
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Post Post #2273 (isolation #252) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:27 pm

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In post 2270, Holiday wrote:Shouldn't have kept pressing on me under the guise of 'good for the town if we kill a townie' rhetoric. :shrug:
I don't care, tbh. If I die, my reads will be taken in consideration, they just will, whether people realize it or not. It's the amount of stakes and actions I've forced scum to take this game, and will continue to make.

There's a reason I have caught more scum than most anyone on the site's history at this point, being here a while helps, though.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #253) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:27 pm

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In post 2272, Holiday wrote:
In post 2269, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 2268, Holiday wrote:Wouldn't have collaborated on Tracer.

Uninterested in working with someone who I think could still flip scum. Uninterested in 'stepping back' from my reads when I find your townblock horrific and your actions the catalyst for this entire mess.
mark of a weak townie.
Don't worry buddy, maybe someone'll get it right tomorrow! You can always improve.

you think that, but a lot of players I see regress, so
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Post Post #2277 (isolation #254) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:29 pm

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In post 2275, Hella Jeff wrote:you're free.
VOTE: Holiday
if i didn't deliver today you're most certainly seeing it tomorrow
if you are town, Holiday, your sacrifice will not be in vain. Even if you stay a salty goose monkey, we will do our best to find the scum who's place you died for.

If you are scum....HA HA HA IN YO SCUMMY LITTLE FACE
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Post Post #2279 (isolation #255) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:31 pm

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If Holiday is town, actually, no matter what, Hella Jeff is never scum.

@HJ - I don't know how much you trust me at this moment, but that was a big moment of trust you gave to me that doesn't make sense as a scum move unless you were making a gambit play, in which you will have successfully pocketed me for the rest of the game.
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Post Post #2280 (isolation #256) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:32 pm

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In post 2278, Holiday wrote:And town, remember who started this entire mess, and who not to listen to. <3
YEAH. Tracer.
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Post Post #2282 (isolation #257) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:33 pm

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I'm town too, though, so at the end of the day, you just got the Vanilla Townie.

Imagine if we did that way back when like when we tried to, though. Crazy.
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Post Post #2284 (isolation #258) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:34 pm

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but you had a hard spot, and i dont envy it, HJ. You earned that town block spot.
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Post Post #2285 (isolation #259) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:34 pm

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but you had a hard spot, and i dont envy it, HJ. You earned that town block spot.
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Post Post #2286 (isolation #260) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:34 pm

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but you had a hard spot, and i dont envy it, HJ. You earned that town block spot.
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Post Post #2321 (isolation #261) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:37 pm

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No, let’s go me. I’ll take a 1 for 1 with Norwegian any day.
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Post Post #2323 (isolation #262) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:40 pm

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I will flip town. I went to protect SS.

There’s a non zero chance that scum went to shoot Something Smart, and a vig killed Tracer. Honestly, don’t claim in that scenario if it’s true, vig.

Norwegian is fake guiltying me, I am not in a neighborhood.
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Post Post #2324 (isolation #263) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:43 pm

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You guys go Norwegian tomorrow no matter what, understood? Even if a Roleblocker comes out saying they roleblocked, because honestly, if that’s the case, that happens today.

When I am flipped town, you fade Norwegian 100% of the time. Solid?
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Post Post #2325 (isolation #264) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:46 pm

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Also, if anyone thinks I kill Tracer over Norwegian if I was gonna kill one of the two I pushed…
Lol
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Post Post #2326 (isolation #265) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:48 pm

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I would like to do some wagonomics with colors now, if you guys wanna wait out a little bit, I’ll do it tomorrow, and then give my final thoughts.

Or we can just go Norwegian, but I understand the spot we’re in, I’m okay being the martyr here
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Post Post #2330 (isolation #266) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:54 pm

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I pushed the misfade on Holiday, case is good against me.

But yeah, tomorrow I’ll do another last night tomorrow and some Wagonomics as my goodbye if we decide we wanna go me toDay.

I didn’t do ya dirty, Dwlee, if you town, i been there with you since the beginning. If you’re scum, i hopped in that pockets, you don’t need to have any ScumGoo drippin

Also, Norwegian tried to bring up my flip on him like that entire setup wasn’t obviously me putting him. Respect on the plays this game, Norweg, that’s what I like to go up against.

But you know i did some good damage here, not too shabby of a return.
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Post Post #2331 (isolation #267) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:00 pm

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In post 2329, Enchant wrote:Actually let's think.

T3 protected April. April promised to protect NorwegianboyEE, but went for SS instead.
Right?

It makes little sense for April-Mafia killing Bullet if they can kill T3 and thus claim "I was attacked".
I promised to go Norwegian when we were town blocking, if you check, i can quote tomorrow, i said originally i was gonna go SS, so I just went there anyways.

I meant every word of what I was doing with Norwegian. I believe that if he were town, he would have taken it.

Norwegian was in the spot where they wanted Hella Jeff to vote, so they could make the decision to hammer me instead of Holiday.

I was setting my traps.
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Post Post #2332 (isolation #268) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:02 pm

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Idk why I quoted that post by Enchant, i meant to reply to it, but then saw some more posts, and replied that way.
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Post Post #2333 (isolation #269) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:03 pm

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In post 2327, NorwegianboyEE wrote:"Please townblock me Norwegian. Put your trust in me! Please!!"
No one can say I don’t put on a good show, that shit be genuine.

I wanted you to be town so bad
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Post Post #2335 (isolation #270) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:05 pm

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I really hope this is Something Smart big braining this game, knowing that “if Norwegian is a cop or something, they’ll check April, so we should block Norwegian”

The beauty, the beauty.

Man, Something Smart knows I like their play so much.
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Post Post #2338 (isolation #271) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:09 pm

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In post 2334, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ok i just wanted your reactions.

I lied.
I have no guilty on you.

UNVOTE:
If you’re scum, aaaaah, so good.

I get really into people’s plays when I smoke and play mafia, and it’s been a while.

And by so good if you’re scum, i mean because those are the type of posts that’ll make me town read while knowing i could be getting duped.
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Post Post #2341 (isolation #272) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:16 pm

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I really can’t tell if i think they’re town or scum not wanting to 1v1 here because I’m townie as helllllllllll

I just tunneled onto a townie day 1, as I’m known to do…as town.

However, I actually don’t believe i tunneled holiday, that got real emotional. I was just, yup, done with day, sorry yo. And then i checked out.i came back and was wagon’d.

I still standby we shoulda just faded when we did, but i think it was a fun little 1v1.

Tracer could have been killed because a scum member wanted me to have more social pull in the game…makes me a little paranoid of A50, which saying that’s gonna make him upset and laugh a little because if he’s scum, he knows I’ll eventually catch him, and i might be town reading both Dwlee and enchant a little too much to believe all three members that sheeped me were town after all of this.

Norwegian’s play as scum would have to be a little weird for that, though, so not quite ready to call A50 not town yet. Still wanna believe he’s town atm
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Post Post #2343 (isolation #273) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:17 pm

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In post 2339, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I can only trust you when i know you mean shit for real.
I told you yesterday I was for real, now you can 100% town me, thank you very much
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Post Post #2344 (isolation #274) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:18 pm

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In post 2342, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I could have killed you today ez if i wanted.
You’d be going down with me if I died. I got that hand coming out the grave
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Post Post #2348 (isolation #275) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:21 pm

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A50 and SS are both players that know just how to get me town read each of them specifically, maybe subconsciously, but like I can definitely see either of them being scum, SS in a big brain slot, or A50 in a rally buddy up slot.

Those aren’t necessarily together, and I’m still town reading them. That’s just a feeling i need remembered in case this game goes funny.

Sometimes having 1 strong pocket in a game is enough to win the game, and I don’t want to be that one that gets pocketed
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Post Post #2350 (isolation #276) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:24 pm

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In post 2349, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I could defo do A50 as well.
I don’t get why you’re townreading shitposts.
Simple, look at how he’s played around me. He either town reads me as town, or played an empower FL scum game. I might even say he’s Warlocking me. I took the brunt of the Holiday wagon even though I feel I pushed Holiday the least.
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Post Post #2351 (isolation #277) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:24 pm

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Something Smart, A50, Osuka? Lol
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Post Post #2354 (isolation #278) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:28 pm

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Oh, t3 could be scum, but like, i just really think they’re town.
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Post Post #2356 (isolation #279) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:30 pm

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If Norwegian is town

SS, A50, T3, Osuka, Geraint holds all the scum for me,


If Norwegian is scum,

Yeah, idk. Geraint, and someone, idk t3, maybe enchant in that case as a deeeeeep wolf if I’m wrong on enchant.
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Post Post #2359 (isolation #280) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:31 pm

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In post 2355, Enchant wrote:What you think about T3 btw?

I expected him to die, but mafia not touching bodyguard.
T3 is misfade able still, there’s always the “2 protectives?!” line people can play and try to get some momentum going
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Post Post #2360 (isolation #281) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:34 pm

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I really don’t think scum ask if it’s a fake guilty if it’s Dwlee
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Post Post #2363 (isolation #282) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:37 pm

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Yeah, tracer is a kill scum me could make there, but it’s like super obvious, but it’s also like i would do a super obvious kill but now i don’t have Tracer coming down my neck, which means scum wanted me to continue pushing the way I did because it alleviates pressure off of me.
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Post Post #2366 (isolation #283) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:39 pm

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Something Smart, if you’re scum, you played a very lowkey perfect scum game, but sometimes a marionette’s string snaps for no reason
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Post Post #2369 (isolation #284) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:42 pm

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In post 2368, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2366, April Ludgate wrote:Something Smart, if you’re scum, you played a very lowkey perfect scum game, but sometimes a marionette’s string snaps for no reason
If that were the case it would be entirely by accident.

And like not even true? I don't think anyone besides you ever had me as strong town?
You make some good points.
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Post Post #2374 (isolation #285) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:51 pm

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I read like nothing of Tracer’s posts
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Post Post #2375 (isolation #286) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:54 pm

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In post 2372, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think raising the bar for towniness is the way to win here.

April, your thoughts on Andante?
I forgot about Andante.

That’s a possible scum for me. I didn’t like their posts around the time of my first reads list that i didn’t answer. At the time, i was just like, fine they just annoyed i didn’t explain anything, but they just kept incessantly going, and then they were implying that i was saying this and that and assuming so much, like all i did was put a reads list with nothing, and they were going like “if April is so confident in their reads”

So yeah, definitely possible scum for me, and they sheeped on with Holiday, Tracer, two townies flipped on my wagon. Osuka, Geraint, Andante probably have scum on it for sure
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Post Post #2388 (isolation #287) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:06 pm

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Idk, i like t3 alive. I get bodyguarded haha
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Post Post #2389 (isolation #288) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:06 pm

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In post 2387, Something_Smart wrote:Announcing role cop does sound like a more likely scum role in a vacuum, but it seems pretty weird for a scum announcing role cop to check a miller.
Yeah, it is weird, and if there isn’t a town announcing role cop in this game, probably means Dwlee might be pulling a scum gambit
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Post Post #2403 (isolation #289) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:54 pm

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Scum Announcing Role Cpp targeting the claimed Miller doesn’t make sense unless they think Dwlee was a PR claiming Miller.
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Post Post #2405 (isolation #290) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:47 pm

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he gets told he was targeted by a role cop, but not by who
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Post Post #2539 (isolation #291) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:16 am

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In post 2427, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2350, April Ludgate wrote:He either town reads me as town, or played an empower FL scum game. I might even say he’s Warlocking me.
You're one of the very few English speakers I know that make me feel mine is broken.

Eh, I have a specific way of typing, I work as a writer for $$$$, and I make phrases up, haha
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Post Post #2540 (isolation #292) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:18 am

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In post 2441, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2437, Andante wrote:I think norwee may be scum here tbh, especially the "andante/osuka/A50" "read" they seem to have, like what?? me and osuka not really posting recently, and a50 being a50? that "read" in 2373 is so weak
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Post Post #2546 (isolation #293) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:24 am

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In post 2524, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2522, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Or are you saying we have 2 fake protective claims and another one that didn't claim?
I'm saying April could be fake claiming doctor in conjunction with t3's fake claim to make them make sense together

Occam's razor, it's just t3 scum. I would never go along with a 3-shot BG claim as a scum partner. T3's on my list, so yeah, I'm okay with that since I already town read Enchant.
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Post Post #2549 (isolation #294) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:26 am

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In post 2535, Dwlee99 wrote:Like tinfoil: scum rolecopped me thinking I was claiming Miller to inform team I was scum with them

this is possible.
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Post Post #2550 (isolation #295) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:27 am

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Yeah, so ill move over to T3 when it's time, not sure what I feel about Andante right now, but scum is likely still in my list.
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Post Post #2554 (isolation #296) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:29 am

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Both A50 and SS have posts that, if scum, are accepting the fate of their partner, then trying to make momentum come towards me.
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Post Post #2555 (isolation #297) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:30 am

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i'm down to mass claim, we already have myself and enchant as PR's claimed that scum need to kill. it'll be enchant, though, let's be honest
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Post Post #2565 (isolation #298) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:38 am

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In post 2557, Enchant wrote:April didn't you target T3 by accident?
Nope, I was trying to make sure Something Smart wasn't killed to frame me more.
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Post Post #2568 (isolation #299) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:50 am

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In post 2567, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2565, April Ludgate wrote:Nope, I was trying to make sure Something Smart wasn't killed to frame me more.
I didn't call you scum though.

Fair, but the line is there that
if
you are scum, i could see the purpose of it and potential hurt to the me. If you're town, it's just a good piece to think about and keep on the rest of townies minds.

My reads are gonna be flip flopping for a while, I can tell.

Part of me hard town reads Norwegian, and part of me thinks they can be scum who just got out of pulling a guilty gambit then backing off and having it work.
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Post Post #2572 (isolation #300) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:16 am

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If that was the scum team, there'd be much more confusion and chaos in this game
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Post Post #2574 (isolation #301) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:06 am

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In post 2573, Almost50 wrote:Off topic: I have a wish.. and I hope it comes true before I leave this planet. My wish is to see you playing a role in a blockbuster. I am not greedy and won't ask for a leading role, but one that does make an impression in the story.
Hey, that's the goal, whether I have to direct it or not, that's the question.
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Post Post #2619 (isolation #302) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:36 pm

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In post 2312, Dwlee99 wrote:Btw, t3 should be on me tonight. Not going to elaborate why
actually, i think you need to elaborate on why here.

You said you were targeted by an Announcing Role Cop, and no townie is taking credit for that, meaning it's scum.

This means scum would know your role.

So why should t3 have been on you?
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Post Post #2621 (isolation #303) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:40 pm

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In post 2620, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Um. To prevent him from dying?
why does that matter over others?
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Post Post #2622 (isolation #304) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:42 pm

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he's a claimed miller who said a role cop checked him. no reason for him to go that path. i think dwlee has scum chance from it.


I also dont think A50 takes that path he is as scum.

T3, Dwlee, then one of Andante/Osuka, leaning Andante.
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Post Post #2623 (isolation #305) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:42 pm

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unless im overthinking, and it's just norwegian.
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Post Post #2624 (isolation #306) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:43 pm

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i personally dont mind leaving t3 alive to get another flip.
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Post Post #2633 (isolation #307) » Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:12 pm

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Hmmm, I’m just bouncing back and forth right now is all Dwlee, checking every crevice.

Andante looking bad for me right now

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Post Post #2656 (isolation #308) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:44 am

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In post 2619, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 2312, Dwlee99 wrote:Btw, t3 should be on me tonight. Not going to elaborate why
actually, i think you need to elaborate on why here.

You said you were targeted by an Announcing Role Cop, and no townie is taking credit for that, meaning it's scum.

This means scum would know your role.

So why should t3 have been on you?
I don’t think this was answered and instead the response was “is April seriously thinking I’m scum?”

I don’t need to think you’re scum to want this elaborated
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Post Post #2657 (isolation #309) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:45 am

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T3, Andante scum, possible others, Osuka, Norwegian, Dwlee atm
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Post Post #2658 (isolation #310) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:45 am

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Let’s just go T3 today
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Post Post #2662 (isolation #311) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:15 am

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Being scum read is not negativity, it’s part of the game
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Post Post #2663 (isolation #312) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:16 am

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In post 2662, April Ludgate wrote:Being scum read is not negativity, it’s part of the game
Honestly, biggest thing people need to understand, it’s literally scum’s job to manipulate the game to make it look like others are scum, and they aren’t.

This is general, i still think Andante has a decent chance of being scum.
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Post Post #2667 (isolation #313) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:38 am

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Yeah, I’m just paranoid, i feel. I’m gonna trust it, and then die before it matters anyways.

T3, Andante with one of Dwlee, Osuka makes sense, and I generally want to believe Dwlee is town, but covering the bases
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Post Post #2679 (isolation #314) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:03 am

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In post 2669, Andante wrote:
In post 2667, April Ludgate wrote:Yeah, I’m just paranoid, i feel. I’m gonna trust it, and then die before it matters anyways.

T3, Andante with one of Dwlee, Osuka makes sense, and I generally want to believe Dwlee is town, but covering the bases
you sr osuka for not talking? interesting

Putting words in the mouth again, noted.

I feel every one of my reads has been transparent one way or another, so idk why you say i scum read them for not talking. feels like a blatant why to minimize my read and narrow it down to just one thing.
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Post Post #2779 (isolation #315) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:11 pm

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VOTE: T3

Keep note that Dwlee refused to answer, just in case.
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Post Post #2780 (isolation #316) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:12 pm

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I wanna believe Dwlee town, but take note. I won't go after them unless my other route is all wrong
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Post Post #2783 (isolation #317) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:14 pm

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t3, osuka, andante, that last page reeks of scum distancing.
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Post Post #2786 (isolation #318) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:16 pm

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In post 2784, Andante wrote:april is setting up for this to flip town
if this flips town, actually, Enchant has a chance at being scum, based on if t3 was town, enchant could have targeted t3, knowing they lied about their action, and chose to push since it was free, and gave credibility, but this is just a moon theory
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Post Post #2787 (isolation #319) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:18 pm

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i feel like im on my way to finding a solve, but currently, im not super confident in my reads. I'd say there's a world out there I die tonight because of that + PR.
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Post Post #2788 (isolation #320) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:18 pm

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Part of me feels Andante truly believe that I'm scum here, which honestly, is kinda townie.
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Post Post #3747 (isolation #321) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:03 am

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Stand by we should have power tunneled Holiday when we did. Just ended up with more claims.
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Post Post #3748 (isolation #322) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:04 am

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Hella Jeff was Conf town for not hammering me, also
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Post Post #3749 (isolation #323) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:05 am

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I think it was played fine by scum, though. Geraint got to pressure wherever they wanted. Andante became pretty obv scum and was hardcore misrepping, but they were aggressively effecting the gamestate.


I had fun this game. Though
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Post Post #3750 (isolation #324) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:10 am

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In post 2783, April Ludgate wrote:t3, osuka, andante, that last page reeks of scum distancing.
Damn. 2/3 for my lasting. But yeah, they killed me a good time.

I was inching my way closer by the end of Day 2.

Might join another game sometime, but been busy
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